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June 16, 2008

"Youths" at it again in France

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"Some of the participants recited prayers, palms stretched upwards"

These kids today!

The photo above was taken at the march referred to at the end of this story. Islam In Europe has that and much more, giving you an insight into exactly what is going on here that the mainstream media does not deign to provide. It could slow the multicultural juggernaut if you were to know.

"French youths clash with police," from AFP, June 15 (thanks to Paul):

Lille - Dozens of French youths clashed with police in a town in northeast France overnight, burning cars during a rampage triggered by the killing of a 22-year-old man, an official said on Sunday.

Two police officers, two firefighters and five residents suffered minor injuries during the violence that raged until Sunday morning in Vitry-le-Francois, said Sylvaine Astic from the regional prefect's office.

Armed with baseball bats and firebombs, about 50 youths went on a rampage, torching cars and setting fire to garbage bins in the town of 17 000 people, Astic told AFP.

The violence started around 22:00 (20:00 GMT) after the 22-year-old man was gunned down in Vitry-le-Francois. A suspect was arrested overnight.

About 60 police officers were dispatched to the town late on Saturday and remained in Vitry-le-Francois on Sunday.

A police union issued a statement denouncing what it termed as "hysteria" in relations between French youth and police.

"This started out as a murderous settling of scores," said Nicolas Comte of the SGP-FO police union.

"But quickly this tragic event prompted a violent group to attack police with baseball bats and molotov cocktails as young bystanders watched passively, like spectators to the 'riot show'," said Comte.

He linked the latest outbreak to the 2005 suburban riots, France's worst unrest in decades, when poor immigrant-heavy areas around Paris and other major cities exploded into three weeks of violence.

"Nothing has been resolved since. The fire is still burning under the ashes," said Comte.

About 250 people took part in a silent march in Vitry-le-Francois on Sunday, led by the victim's mother who wept as she walked holding a photograph of her son through the low-income neighbourhood of Rome-Saint-Charles....

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Wow, look at those youths!

Have you ever seen such a bunch of obvious youths?

Excuse me, but, is that a nun out front in the yellow and white? It looks like a nun's outfit.

Posted by: darcy [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 16, 2008 8:57 AM

But Zidane is such a good soccer player. And Rachida
Dati is in the Cabinet. What more proof do you need that "integration" is working, if only you give it time?

Posted by: Hugh [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 16, 2008 9:05 AM

Darcy: Excuse me, but, is that a nun out front in the yellow and white? It looks like a nun's outfit.

I bet it is a man. Who ever it is, is bulkier than most of the others. Probably has some ball bats hidden under there to pass out after prayers.
This could start another round of wide spread riots.

Posted by: duh_swami [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 16, 2008 9:15 AM

Zit! Alors! Pardon my Fronsh. You say Asian, I say Moslem, You say Les jeunes, I say, Moslem. Let's call ze whole sing uff.

Posted by: Jewel Atkins [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 16, 2008 9:22 AM

So how come the 22 year old victim is a "man" and the rioters are "youths"? Youths conjures up images of mischievous 14 and 15 year olds, not these destructive muslim punks.

Posted by: ImNoDhimmi [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 16, 2008 9:22 AM

LOL, Jewel.

Posted by: Haid Dasalami [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 16, 2008 9:26 AM

Isn't multi-culti grand?

Posted by: Sounder [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 16, 2008 9:32 AM

I suppose NATO will bomb France to ashes now...

Posted by: LazarOfSerbia [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 16, 2008 9:33 AM

so a twenty -two year "man", not child, youth. was gunned down by someone else, not a police, and so its the fault of the country, and these so called youths demonstrate by burning and pillaging. until the French get tough on crime, deport illegals, they will see more of this. kind of their own little Israel vs palis

Posted by: ZenaWarriorPrincess [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 16, 2008 10:11 AM

Officer Krupke, you're really a slob.
This boy don't need a doctor, just a good honest job.
Society's played him a terrible trick,
And sociologic'ly he's sick!

YOUTH:
I am sick!

YOUTHS:
We are sick, we are sick,
We are sick, sick, sick,
Like we're sociologically sick!


Posted by: gravenimage [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 16, 2008 10:43 AM

No quiche for you kids!

If we do not change our immigration policies, a scene like this could be coming to your town.


Posted by: tanstaafl [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 16, 2008 11:51 AM

This needs to be nipped in the bud. The muslims aren't supposed to start rioting until October at the earliest. They should wait their turn. Have these folk no respect for the calendar, or time honoured traditions? Even worse, are they entirely ignorant about the logistics of planning a riot?

The French season kicks off on Good Friday with the start of the public sector strike season, which goes through to Ascension day, at which point the farmers blockade the channel tunnel and set fire to some sheep. Quick break for Bastille Day. Then it's the turn of the fuel protesters until July. Then the students finish their exams and go berserk. Late summer it all goes quiet while the population goes on holiday for a month. And the muslims are supposed to wait until October. There isn't an unlimited supply of half-bricks and molotov cocktails in Paris, you can't all be throwing them at once! Especially during a fuel crisis...

Posted by: Monty [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 16, 2008 1:53 PM

As said Nicolas Comte of the SGP-FO police union : “ young bystanders watched passively ”
There is not only them !
Police force watched passively would be reality !
It would be necessary to explain how 50 ass hole like anorexics matches,
Can hold in failure more than 70 trained police soldiers ? ? ?
Unless they received orders to let the « youth » all break among French’s car !
So the new was on Sunday,
And today none TV or radio tell anything about the riot !
There is euro 2008 succer and the new CD of the president‘s wife !

Posted by: Baudricourt [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 16, 2008 3:21 PM

Look at the jihadists........I mean youths.

Posted by: DaveMate [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 16, 2008 5:46 PM

Look at the youths.......I mean Jihadists.

Posted by: darcy [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 16, 2008 5:53 PM

Let Bernard Kouchner talk to the "youths". Kouchner was the 1st UN Gauleiter of Kosovo installed by the US, UK and NATO criminals. It was under his Sturmbannfuhrership that 100 of the 150 magnificent Serb Christian churches that were on UN's own World Heritage Site List were looted and destroyed by Kosovar Albanian hordes, including many "youths", with the heavily armed US, UK and French "peacekeepers" just standing there watching. Those churches, shrines of Serb Christianity and treasures of the world culture survived 500 years of brutal Turkish Islamic rule and 4 years of brutal Nazi rule, but did not survive even the 1st year of NATO "peacekeeping". Kouchner, Clinton, Blair and other criminals had outdone everyone in cultural barbarity.
Now, Kouchner is the Foreign Minister of France, no less. Let him draw on his experience dealing with "youths" and let the "youths" plunder and destroy the Notre Dame de Paris and the Louvre, let them invade French homes at will, looting, raping, torturing, mutilating and murdering, hand-picking the healthiest young French men and women, herding them into organ-harvesting "farms", cutting out their vital organs one at a time & selling them to wealthy Arab patients. After all, this is what he and his Kosovar Albanian Einzatzgruppen did to Serb civilians in Kosovo.

Ruslan Tokhchukov, Enragedsince1999.

Posted by: Enragedsince1999 [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 16, 2008 7:22 PM

That photo's from France or "Palestine"?

Bet that gang of "youths" goes hog-wild in the streets any time one of their own self-detonates while engaged in "inner struggles"?

Posted by: TINBH [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 16, 2008 8:15 PM

The story here isn't the rioting....Muslim disaffection living in infidel society is to be expected.

The story is the media-blackout regarding the identity of the "youths" and hence the motives for their disaffection. It's an Orwellian phenomenon which we'll see more and more of. The publicizing of Muslim unrest in the West (and even the atrocities they perpetrate) has become politically taboo. It will in time be deemed a hate-crime.

Posted by: Cornelius [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 16, 2008 9:02 PM

Let's see if President Sarko does anything to eleiminate the "scum" like he said he would do before he became president.

Posted by: Briars [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 16, 2008 9:35 PM

Shoutout to French lurkers and posters - we have had French people posting here from time to time - perhaps it is time to remember the Barricades song from 'Les Miserables'. Time to remember Joan of Arc.

The Muslims hold a march somewhere? Fine. Then let the Catholics, and the Protestants, and the Jews, and the atheists and the ex-Muslims hold a march, too, in the same town. Pick a handy saint's day or significant national holiday - hey, if you've got Vietnamese Buddhists, or Hindus, let them contribute a suitable day, too, Buddha's Birthday, or Diwali, or suchlike - and turn out in force to march around your local suburb or town. Take a band and a choir and sing the songs of France, and ring the church bells loud and long after you've done.

A suitable circuit might be catholic and protestant churches (take in the synagogue if you've got one), Christian [and Jewish, if applicable] cemetery, library, schools, war memorial, market square, police station, fire station, town hall. All the symbols of your civilisation.

Have a working bee: once a month descend on the local cemetery in force, clean it up, check for any desecration of graves, defacement of statues and crosses, etc., wash off any offensive graffiti; hold a picnic afterwards with wine and pork and music and dancing and all the fun that Islam loves to hate.

But make sure you have plenty of big dogs along, and able-bodied men in the party, and people with video recorders, just in case the Mohammedans decide to try to make trouble.

Islam is territorial.

Well: push back. Define your territory - town by town, parish by parish, church by church, school, cemetery, town hall, library - and publicly reclaim it as yours. You could always look up the fascinating old English ritual of 'beating the bounds' of the parish, and adapt it for French use, unless you have a similar custom of your own that could be revived.

Posted by: dumbledoresarmy [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 16, 2008 9:40 PM

Shoutout to French lurkers and posters - we have had French people posting here from time to time - perhaps it is time to remember the Barricades song from 'Les Miserables'. Time to remember Joan of Arc.

The Muslims hold a march somewhere? Fine. Then let the Catholics, and the Protestants, and the Jews, and the atheists and the ex-Muslims hold a march, too, in the same town. Pick a handy saint's day or significant national holiday - hey, if you've got Vietnamese Buddhists, or Hindus, let them contribute a suitable day, too, Buddha's Birthday, or Diwali, or suchlike - and turn out in force to march around your local suburb or town. Take a band and a choir and sing the songs of France, and ring the church bells loud and long after you've done.

A suitable circuit might be catholic and protestant churches (take in the synagogue if you've got one), Christian [and Jewish, if applicable] cemetery, library, schools, war memorial, market square, police station, fire station, town hall. All the symbols of your civilisation.

Have a working bee: once a month descend on the local cemetery in force, clean it up, check for any desecration of graves, defacement of statues and crosses, etc., wash off any offensive graffiti; hold a picnic afterwards with wine and pork and music and dancing and all the fun that Islam loves to hate.

But make sure you have plenty of big dogs along, and able-bodied men in the party, and people with video recorders, just in case the Mohammedans decide to try to make trouble.

Islam is territorial.

Well: push back. Define your territory - town by town, parish by parish, church by church, school, cemetery, town hall, library - and publicly reclaim it as yours. You could always look up the fascinating old English ritual of 'beating the bounds' of the parish, and adapt it for French use, unless you have a similar custom of your own that could be revived.

Posted by: dumbledoresarmy [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 16, 2008 9:44 PM

dumbledoresarmy posted...

"Islam is territorial.

Well: push back. Define your territory - town by town, parish by parish, church by church, school, cemetery, town hall, library - and publicly reclaim it as yours. You could always look up the fascinating old English ritual of 'beating the bounds' of the parish, and adapt it for French use, unless you have a similar custom of your own that could be revived."

That is an excellent piece of advice. Very clear thinking on how to confront an aggressive and totalitarian movement and to expose them for the monsters that they are. Good call.

Posted by: praxis9 [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 17, 2008 12:58 AM

Another « good » new from France :
We learn that the journalist Mohamed Sifaoui,
Who disputes the extremism green fascist,
Has just been assaulted by 5 members of the Algerian GSPC in Paris !
And no media speaks about it !
http://www.fdesouche.com/?p=3675

Sleep people ! SLEEP !

Posted by: Baudricourt [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 17, 2008 2:21 AM

@Ruslan Tokhchukov, Enragedsince1999.
Since 9/11 and more intense after the murder of the Dutch filmmaker Theo van Gogh I studied mohammedanism. So now I am inclined to believe every word you write about Kosovo.
Most mpeople don't, however. To put it mildly.
Your use of the word "Sturmbannfuhrership" does not help your or my case. (although I can understand your anger) Can you supply us with the least disputable sources on the destroyed churches. Especially the part on "..survived 500 years of brutal Turkish Islamic rule and 4 years of brutal Nazi rule, but did not survive even the 1st year of NATO "peacekeeping"" is all-telling. Maybe it can convince another group. We have to go step by step. In Europe the jihadists are decades ahead in the War of Ideas. Nevertheless we are going to win. It will take some time though.

Posted by: FransG [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 17, 2008 2:35 AM

In Southern California, one says, "Viva La Raza!" In Marseilles, ones says, Vive La Razzia!"

Posted by: Jewel Atkins [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 17, 2008 3:10 AM

praxis9

glad you liked my ideas. As it happens, in my own suburbs and neighbouring district, where I live in a large city in Australia, there is no obvious Muslim presence at the moment (not even one Muslim family at my children's school, so far as I know) so the measures I have suggested have not become necessary for me personally...yet.

However, I know a priest on the other side of the city who has a mosque just across the way from his church. I shall have to have a chat with him and find out what his parish are doing. The last time I spoke with him he said he made a point of LOUDLY ringing his church bells on every possible occasion. That alone is a revolutionary anti-dhimmi act.

It was in part because of the things I have learned at this blog, that this Anzac Day (which is Australia's big day for remembering Australian Defence Force personnel, past and present, who have died in the service of our country) I made a point of attending our local suburban march and Anzac Day memorial service (outside our suburban RSL 'Returned Servicemen's League). I wanted to help make the crowd bigger!

It WAS a crowd - a huge number of people, of all ages, early on a chilly Saturday morning when most would otherwise be sleeping in. And only one of thousands such, all over our country.

People have expressed surprise at the turnout for Anzac Day parades - over the past ten years or more, it has steadily increased, without any particular effort from the Powers that Be to encourage patriotism or historical awareness. My own feeling is that Australians - though most are at present pretty clueless about the Jihad - are acting on instinct. Bali, and the Cronulla Riots, haven't been forgotten. So we are gathering round our old soldiers, WWII vets and Vietnam vets, to thank them and remind ourselves of what they did and why; to remember who we are; to screw up our courage.

I'm sure it can only be a good thing that Muslims, in Australia, see hundreds of thousands of non-Muslim Aussies - many of them young people - turning out to honour our soldiers.

Now here's a thought, for all persons here who are French, or of French descent. Bastille Day approaches - July 14. You have a month, therefore, to plan how YOUR family, your community will celebrate your national day loudly, publicly, stylishly, and in resolute defiance of Jihad and Sharia. An excellent day for local marches to reclaim territory.

Hint for Parisian counter-jihadists: you might want to visit, regularly and in large groups, sacred sites such as the Royal Chapel of St Denis. A friend of mine was in Paris recently and she was deeply disturbed by the fact that arrogant young Muslim men appeared to have all the major significant sites, such as the Chapel, 'staked out', so to speak; loitering aggressively, for all the world like members of an occupying army. Bastille Day would be an excellent day for large groups of confident Frenchmen to see about confronting these nasty loiterers and moving them out of the holy and historic precincts, to the tune of La Marseillaise.

Posted by: dumbledoresarmy [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 17, 2008 8:42 AM

So this is France 64 years after we kicked the Nazis out.

Why did we bother?

Posted by: Spirit Of 1683 [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 17, 2008 10:02 AM

to gravenimage

This youth don't want a job. You give those kids a job, they rob the place . they stole the money from their boss.
Education is free in France, and all the public system is outstanding. They have the exact same opportunity to be educated . they chose not to go to school and stay on the street and fight ... Fight for what they don't even know.

To Spirit of 1683

why did we bother?

Don't be so bitter. France is a small country and every single event is a big deal.
but so far , no Sept 11

Be more concerned about what is happening here. Muslims are infitrating each state, your leading expensive colleges like Harvard is owned by the Saudis, they are present in every single college, they are attacking your public school system....
and nobody is doing anything either.
You are watching too .
Islam has a special eye on America.
and a special goal.... to destroy it completely.
The statue of liberty that the French gave you is not saying anymore "give me your poor", it is saying "give me a whip so I can clean this country of those who took your twin towers down..."

Posted by: Tartine [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 17, 2008 10:57 AM

FranG:

Here's some more on the topic:

http://www.kosovo.net/destruction.html

Posted by: Enragedsince1999 [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 17, 2008 7:45 PM

Tartine wrote:

to gravenimage

This youth don't want a job.
........................

No, most of them have absolutely no interest in honest employment, or the great opportunities that are available in an advanced Western country like France. Many social critics, though, seem convinced that this unrest is all about "economic injustice", with the implication that these poor youth are only restless and unemployed because of French racism.

I only noted the song from West Side Story--which handily lampoons this attitude--because it proves that some people were onto the con almost fifty years ago.

Posted by: gravenimage [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 18, 2008 2:08 PM

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