Whatever happens to Mr Wilders, the same exact thing needs to happen to the Jordanian Ambassador here in the US, the very moment that anyone moves to arrest him at a foreign airport, IMO.

"I am Geert Spartacus Wilders!"

Posted by: No More Ham, Ed at June 29, 2008 3:44 PM

I SEE NO DIFFERANCE BETWEEN JORDANS ARREST WARRANT OF GEERT AND DENMARKS WANT TO TRY HIM EUROPE I THINK IS GONE .

Posted by: spcbat at June 29, 2008 3:46 PM

"I am Geert Spartacus Wilders!"

I am Geert Wilders....and so is my wife.

Posted by: johndoe at June 29, 2008 3:50 PM

Jordan can go to hell.I will now treat all things and people Jordanian with extreme prejudice. I'll just have to imagine visiting the Petra of my dreams instead, which is much better anyway.

Posted by: johndoe at June 29, 2008 3:59 PM

Here's a prediction: the massed ranks of muslims countries will start to insist that the "crime" of insulting islam (such as by stating truths not meant to be heard by non-muslims) should fall under the jurisdiction of the International Criminal Court.

Posted by: Obelisk1 at June 29, 2008 4:03 PM

Geert, come to America, you will be welcomed with open arms.

Posted by: bigcatgirl13106 at June 29, 2008 4:06 PM

And Jordan is reputedly one of the more liberal Arab countries, though the King this past year said Israel should be nuked for Mugabi Gate repairs outside the Temple Mount complex, despite the patently harmless nature of the work.
We should invade Jordan and install Geert Wilders as colonial ruler.

Posted by: jewdog at June 29, 2008 4:17 PM

What Jordan is looking for is that Sharia law be recognized as Ligitimate international law, and I wouldn't put it past some international court giving it that legitimacy.

It's obcene that Jordan would try something like this, but it's even more obcene that Western governments, including the U.S., are silent about the matter.

Posted by: rational at June 29, 2008 4:17 PM

European countries should expell the ambassador from Jordan and recall their own ambassador, and suspend diplomatic relations wih Jordan.

Posted by: Alert at June 29, 2008 4:32 PM

If ever there were an accidental country, Jordan is it. If the French hadn't nixed Faisal being King of Syria (with his borther Abdullah then becoming King of Iraq), Jordan wouldn't even exist. I think the courageous part of the world (sadly there's not much left of it) has to tell this artificial construct of a country that it can go to hell if it proceeds with this action. Threatening to withold foreign aid, which Jordan desperately needs because it's another Arab country that doesn't work, would be a good place to start.

Posted by: Wellington at June 29, 2008 4:37 PM

Personally, I wish Geert would move to St. Louis, Missouri. We need some pols with fortitude here...speak truth to taxes,mythical race differences/set-asides,and well, yes, 30,000 Bosnians brought here by Clinton (largest group in US) who knows how many Muslims in the # though the estimation is "most"...

Posted by: nodak at June 29, 2008 5:02 PM

will be arrested soon when traveling abroad, due to his movie Fitna. Jordan is working on an international warrant for the arrest of the PVV leader in order to prosecute him.

Can someone please explain just how such an "international warrant" could be enforced?

Exactly who would have jurisdiction and what exactly would be the criminal charge?

Who and where would such a case be heard and who would actually go out and "arrest" Mr. Wilders?

Does the EU presume that islamic law which I supposed he would be charged under, somehow trumps the EU's own secular-humanist-atheistic laws?

Perhaps two can play the game?

If it is so easy to "bring charges" against someone, why not have an international warrant for the arrest of say ... the King of Jordan, or the Pope, or those beings that pilot UFO's and scare people to death in small towns in Australia?

This whole scenario sounds looney -- I'm wondering if anyone in Europe is stupid enough to enforce such a warrant and exactly how would they benefit from actually carrying out such kangaroo justice?

Posted by: witness at June 29, 2008 5:11 PM

From Wikipedia:

Jordan's economic resource base centers on phosphates, potash, and their fertilizer derivatives; tourism; overseas remittances; and foreign aid. These are its principal sources of hard currency earnings. Lacking forests, coal reserves, hydroelectric power, or commercially viable oil deposits, Jordan relies on natural gas for 10% of its domestic energy needs.

GDP: purchasing power parity - $26.8 billion (2005 est.)

GDP - composition by sector:
agriculture: 3.5%
industry: 29.9%
services: 66% (2005 est.)

Population below poverty line: 12.5% official rate, but estemated to be close to 30% (2001 est.)

Inflation rate (consumer prices): 5% (2005 est.)

Labor force: 1.46 million (2003)

Labor force - by occupation: agriculture 5%, industry 12.5%, services 82.5% (2001 est.)

Unemployment rate: 16% official rate; actual rate is 25%-30% (2001 est.)

Budget:
revenues: $2.397 billion
expenditures: $3.587 billion, including capital expenditures of $582 million (2003 est.)

Agriculture - products: wheat, barley, citrus, tomatoes, melons, olives; sheep, goats, poultry

Exports: $2.908 billion (f.o.b., 2003 est.)

Exports - commodities: phosphates, fertilizers, potash, agricultural products, manufactures

Imports: $4.946 billion (f.o.b., 2003 est.)

Imports - commodities: crude oil, machinery, transport equipment, food, live animals, manufactured goods

Debt - external: $7.683 billion (2003 est.)

Economic aid - recipient: ODA, $553 million (2000 est.)

BOYCOTT JORDAN!!!!!!!!!!
Don't travel there. Don't buy ANYTHING from there. Lobby your Congressmen and Senators to cut off the aid.

Also, revert Muslim dowager Queen (Lisa) Noor dresses like a kafir WHORE and has been photographed innumerable times touching men who were not her husband. Yeah, that's you, Abdullah II, your mother traipses all over the world acting like a WHORE, but you are ignoring this to allow your courts to try a kafir for making an Internet movie. Let's judge YOU by Islamic law, son of a uncovered WHORE. Are you sure you want such a high profile?

Posted by: Concerned Citizen at June 29, 2008 5:13 PM

Wish we had more legal detail on this.

The new Lisbon Treaty (rejected by the Irish) allows for international arrest warrants anywhere in the EU. Is this what Geert fears?

I think there is something about 'Islamophobia' mentioned as a crime according to European Human Rights Commission...

Posted by: devorgilla at June 29, 2008 5:16 PM

BTW, when I get confused over this or that I usually follow the money.

I may not always be spot-on in so doing, but more often than not I find myself in the ballpark at least.

Therefore, I fail to see what monetary profit anyone in the EU would gain let alone defraying the expenses incurred in actually prosecuting this "warrant."

In an atheistic world government like the EU the only god which matters is the cash-god and it does not appear to me at least that this diety has anything to gain; and monetary gain is what is it usually all about.

Mr. Wilders, pardon me, is not worth the expense as I see the general ledger.

Posted by: witness at June 29, 2008 5:17 PM

Okay, so it's hard to boycott a country that makes hardly nothing:

http://www.jovex.net/home.html

But be sure to write your representatives.

Posted by: Concerned Citizen at June 29, 2008 5:29 PM

This is yet another example of the mid-East Islamic world making it clearer & clearer to the West that Islam just does not belong in the Western World. It’s totally out of place, incompatible here and looking more & more like an absurd nightmare. This sort of arrogant Muslim nonsense will only backfire on these presumptuous zombies. True, the West has a lot of the cowardly sell-out politicians that these zombies are depending on, but more & more the intellectuals of the West are waking up and speaking out.

For example, the recent blasting of Islam by major authors like Martin Amis and Ian McEwan is very significant.

Posted by: FM at June 29, 2008 5:44 PM

Yeah, that's you, Abdullah II, your mother traipses all over the world acting like a ....

Hello CC

Queen Noor is not the mother of Abdullah. Her son Hamza is crown prince I think. Abdullah's mother is a Brit. Not that it matters a whit. But if you are going to call someone's mother bad names you should try to get the family relationships right.

nabi ZK (pbum)

Posted by: zonie kafir at June 29, 2008 5:49 PM

Nabi,

Princess Muna al-Hussein is also an uncovered WHORE and it's rumored she is not even a Muslimah, which would make A-II an illegitimate heir to the throne. He's the illegitimate king of a nation of uncovered WHORES.

(gee, nabi, did you have to embarrass me in front of everybody?)

Posted by: Concerned Citizen at June 29, 2008 6:11 PM

Recent picture of Muna al-Hussein here.

Posted by: Concerned Citizen at June 29, 2008 6:15 PM

Can someone please explain just how such an "international warrant" could be enforced? - Posted by: witness

Schengen and Prüm(EU treaties) The main purpose of the establishment of the Schengen rules is the abolition of physical borders among European countries. . . Prüm contains provisions for the deployment of armed sky marshals on intra-Schengen flights, joint police patrols, entry of (armed) police forces into the territory of another state for the prevention of immediate danger, cooperation in case of mass events or disasters. Furthermore, the police officer responsible for an operation in a state may, in principle, decide inhowfar the police forces of the other states which take part in the operation may use their weapons or exercise other police powers.

Posted by: heroyalwhyness at June 29, 2008 6:41 PM

"Otherwise, they may later note with regret: "First they came for Geert..."

Actually, "First they came for the Danish Cartoonists. Then Geert."

Posted by: darcy at June 29, 2008 7:22 PM

Well, if Turkey joins the EU....and it still has Tayyip Erdogan and the Justice and Development Party in power (or a character like him or another party that is pro-Islamic), then it would not be too much of a surprise if Turkey helps their Muslim brothers by issuing a warrant. Nevermind Kosovo.

Turkey cannot join the EU.

Posted by: npabga at June 29, 2008 7:47 PM

Who will rid us of these horrific Mohammedans?

(Thanks to Henry 2nd)

Posted by: darcy at June 29, 2008 7:48 PM

Jordan wants to try Wilders for making Fitna. Would European countries really honor any request by Jordan on that basis? Don't they protect their own citizens?
Forget Jordan. The country that should be shunned by all freedom-loving people would be the country that detains Wilders and hands him over to Jordan or anyone else.
The major precedent, whether or not it fits precisely here, is Augusto Pinochet, who was arrested in Britain on a Spanish warrant. It's a major reason the US should keep out of the ICC. The Europeans are being hoist by their own petard.

http://www.eagleforum.org/column/1998/dec98/98-12-23.html

It is also possible Jordan will ask individual nations visited by Wilders to extradite him.

Where does Wilders envision traveling if he does go abroad? He would be foolish to travel to any Muslim country. He should avoid Britain, given its recent history of arresting world leaders. Ditto with Spain. If he travels to a resort and that country detains him then that country should be shunned and all investments in it pulled.

Posted by: PMK at June 29, 2008 8:11 PM

Remember when your kids used to say "You're not the boss of me!".

Posted by: tanstaafl at June 29, 2008 8:15 PM

Make no mistake in thinking this cannot happen.

If INTERPOL honors this warrant and our brave Geert is anywhere within the auspices of INTERPOL, including his own nation, he is in jeopardy of being arrested and extradited to the complaining nation-state - in this case, Jordan.

Knees are very wobbly in Europe right now and strong backbones are in short supply. No one wants another seige of rioting and killing by "disenfranchised youths"; ergo,I doubt greatly that Geert is going to get very much help. His own government is trying to prosecute him.

And I can only imagine that the nation of Jordan will try him under Sharia and punish him accordingly.

The World of Islam is definitely growing bolder and turning up the heat on the West.

By the way, for the commentor who doubted this can happen on our continent, Mark Steyn is on trial by the Human Rights Tribunal in British Columbia for insulting Islam.

Posted by: INFIDELATLARGE at June 29, 2008 8:36 PM

From G K Chesterton's The Battle of Lepanto, the arrogant voice of 'Mahound' is the voice, today, of the OIC, of Jordan and all the other Muslim despotisms of the Ummah, as it prepares to stifle the cspiritual and psychological call to arms that Geert Wilders is raising in the Netherlands:

..'That which was our trouble comes again out of the west.
We have set the seal of Solomon on all things under sun
of knowledge and of sorrow and endurance of things done,
But a noise is in the mountains, in the mountains, and I know
the voice that shook our palaces - four hundred years ago:
It is he that saith not, 'Kismet', it is he that knows not Fate,
It is Richard, it is Raymond, it is Godfrey in the gate!
It is he whose loss is laughter when he counts the wager worth:
PUT DOWN YOUR FEET UPON HIM, THAT OUR PEACE BE ON THE EARTH."

We must not let them crush him.

Time for Benedict XVI to invite Wilders to the Vatican for a private audience (as he did, also, to Oriana Fallaci).

Meanwhile: paging all citizens of all supposedly 'free' non-Muslim-majority countries.

Write to your governments and DEMAND, beg, plead, and urge, that Geert Wilders be invited to your country to address your parliament/ assembly.

That's what I've done. My Federal MP, my PM, and the Leader of the Opposition each received a letter from me, enclosing a copy of the English translation of the magnificent speech that Mr Wilders gave in the Danish parliament (complete with its final lapidary quote from George Orwell: "If Liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear).

I told them that Geert Wilders and a number of others (inter alia Mr Spencer, Andrew Bostom, Bat Yeor, Ibn Warraq, Ali Sina) were the Dietrich Bonhoeffers of our age, in their devotion to freedom and truth, and that they should be invited here as our honoured guests, to address our nation from the floor of Parliament.

To all Australians reading here: please do the same. Pester your MP, whoever he or she is. Pester the PM. Pester the Opposition: if the government won't do it, perhaps the Opposition might, to prod the government. Contact Quadrant magazine or The Australian and urge them to sponsor a Geert Wilders visit to Australia. I'd LOVE to see him addressing our National Press Club in Canberra, being interviewed on Denton's 'Enough Rope', and appearing on the '7.30 Report' (just as Ayaan Hirsi Ali did - WOW).

Not so long ago, Wafa Sultan was spirited in and out of Australia, under the radar, to speak to our politicians on both sides of politics, and to give interviews on radio and to the papers. The Muslims in Australia weren't told she was coming and didn't find out till she was about to leave. A similar procedure could be employed with Mr Wilders. If El Al flies in and out of Oz, and the Netherlands, he could fly El Al, and be about as safe as is possible. His wife could come too. Hey, we could throw in a week for them both on one of our idyllic tropical or subtropical islands.

Israeli readers: would it be possible to invite him to Israel to address the Knesset or if that is not possible, at the very least, some suitable think-tank? Could not Yad Vashem invite him, in light of the fact that Fitna draws attention to Islamic antisemitism and incitement to genocide against Jews?

We have to remember Pericles, as quoted by Oriana Fallaci, to whom Wilders pays open homage in his Danish speech. "The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom is courage".

The more I find out about Geert Wilders the more I like him. I am sure his wife has many dark moments; but I have to commend her, out of all the possible Dutchmen she could have picked, she chose THAT one, a man with both brains and b***s, a man who will defend her rights and her freedoms. (I hope they're both learning to shoot straight).

Europe lives. It lives in a feisty Dutchman who is holding high the torch lit by that fiery Italian, Oriana Fallaci, and that tiny, steely Jewess, Bat Yeor, who was in turn encouraged and supported by the great Jacques Ellul, saint and teacher of France; may all the great Dutchmen and women of the past, freedom fighters, givers of refuge to the persecuted, and those to whom they gave refuge, be with him. May the spirits of Spinoza and Grotius and Rembrandt guide him, and the prayers of Righteous Gentile Corrie ten Boom.

Posted by: dumbledoresarmy at June 29, 2008 8:43 PM

Geert Wilders should be travelling, then, on a diplomatic passport, issued either by his own country, The Netherlands or, if such a possibility exists, by the European Community. And any government of any state that dares to touch a hair on his head should be made to understand that all relations with that government, and all aid, and all plane links, will be ended. That's a start.

Posted by: Hugh at June 29, 2008 8:54 PM

Didn't Fitna warn about dangers of free speech from Islam? Well then...Q.E.D.
Geert Wilders is a saint who should be canonized by all freedom loving people, right up there with Mother Teresa, Meir Kahane and Elvis.

Posted by: jewdog at June 29, 2008 8:57 PM

Kinda OT but relevant:
As my husband is a Dutch citizen, we are not amazed at this at all. While we (as well as many thousands of Dutch) support Geert Wilders, of which we hope he brings back "Freedom of Speech" in the Netherlands, he takes the risk of being handed over by his own (cowardly) government.
My husband likes to comment in Dutch Newspapers (De Telegraaf)on www.wuz.nl When he wrote a "story" about his "observation" of the present Dutch society & placed a photo of Muslim people shopping, his blog was removed (censored) However he wrote the exact same story but replaced the photo with one of average Dutch people shopping---it was accepted. This says it all.....Doesn't it?

Posted by: Ladywolfnl at June 29, 2008 9:10 PM

Geert Wilders should be travelling, then, on a diplomatic passport, issued either by his own country, The Netherlands or, if such a possibility exists, by the European Community.
by Hugh

A diplomatic passport doesn't necessarily equate to diplomatic immunity.

Augusto Pinochet was detained while he was in London for medical treatment. He held the position of senator for life in Chile and he carried a diplomatic passport. It didn't matter.

http://www.asil.org/insights/insigh27.htm

Posted by: PMK at June 29, 2008 9:18 PM

Geert Wilders should be travelling, then, on a diplomatic passport, issued either by his own country, The Netherlands or, if such a possibility exists, by the European Community. And any government of any state that dares to touch a hair on his head should be made to understand that all relations with that government, and all aid, and all plane links, will be ended. That's a start.

Posted by: Hugh

Good idea, Hugh! And it should be an EU passport, not just a Dutch one.
But in dealing with the Moslems, diplomatic immunity is meaningful protection only if they are convinced that the issuer can and will back it up. Remember that the U.S. embassy staff in Teheran in 1979 also had diplomatic immunity, and that didn't stop the Iranians from kidnapping them. And Jimmy-the-Dhimmi (-dimmy-dummy) did zit about it.
That's why I specify an EU passport. The Dutch alone are not in a position to threaten much in the way of retaliation. The EU are, altho whether they would is another matter. I think many Moslem countries would judge they had little to fear from the EU. From the EU's recent timidity in handling Moslem threats, this judgement is probably correct.
Mourir pour Wilders? Non!

Posted by: ebonystone at June 29, 2008 9:19 PM

ebonystone,
Who's to say that he wouldn't he arrested by an EU member country - say Britain with its touchy-feely attitudes toward Islam. It's my understanding that Wilders isn't all that popular among European lawmakers. Is that wrong?
Europeans believe in universal jurisdiction.

Posted by: PMK at June 29, 2008 9:21 PM

ebonystone,
Who's to say that he wouldn't he arrested by an EU member country - say Britain with its touchy-feely attitudes toward Islam. It's my understanding that Wilders isn't all that popular among European lawmakers. Is that wrong?
Europeans believe in universal jurisdiction.

Posted by: PMK

You're right. That's why I expressed doubts that even an EU passport would be adequate protection.

Posted by: ebonystone at June 29, 2008 9:28 PM

Curious to see what Interpol decides to do in this case.

Will they be reasonable and throw this warrant out the window...or will they become the new Gestapo of the 21st Century and start arresting people for committing thought crimes?

Only the future can tell.

Posted by: PorkFatRules at June 29, 2008 9:38 PM

Meanwhile, there this lame attempt at discounting Fitna. Too bad this attempt isn't addressed to the mujahadin, who make the claims of association to the Quran Mr. Geert Wilders documents.

Posted by: desert dweller at June 29, 2008 9:38 PM

Pinochet was arrested on the strength of an Interpol "red notice". I assume this is what Jordan is seeking as well. There is nothing cut and dried about it. It doesn't require a country to arrest someone.

The Peruvian dictator, Fujimori, was wanted on such a "warrant" but he lived safely in Japan for many years. Only when he traveled to Chile was he detained and extradited to Peru.

INTERPOL's member countries follow their national laws in deciding whether to consider a Red Notice a valid request for provisional arrest. Some countries permit the wanted person to be provisionally arrested, while others treat a Red Notice simply as information not carrying any particular legal significance.

This puts the onus on the country that decides to detain Wilders, regardless of what type of passport he carries. The country whose national laws allow free speech to be trampled by Islamic fundamentalists is a country all international travelers should avoid.

http://www.interpol.int/public/ICPO/PressReleases/PR2003/PR200305.asp

Posted by: PMK at June 29, 2008 9:40 PM

"It is strictly forbidden for the Organization to undertake any intervention or activities of a political, military, religious or racial character."
Article 3 of Interpol Constitution and General Regulations
http://www.interpol.int/Public/ICPO/LegalMaterials/constitution/constitutionGenReg/constitution.asp

I would love to see how this plays out...

Posted by: Ladywolfnl at June 29, 2008 9:46 PM

Witness wrote...
This whole scenario sounds looney -- I'm wondering if anyone in Europe is stupid enough to enforce such a warrant and exactly how would they benefit from actually carrying out such kangaroo justice?

Nearly all of Europe is stupid enough. How do they benefit by continuing to allow muslims into their countries? How do they benefit by supporting them on the dole? Stay out of islamic countries. If you don't whatever happens to you you deserve.

Posted by: Rick at June 29, 2008 9:52 PM

"Whatever happens to Mr Wilders, the same exact thing needs to happen to the Jordanian Ambassador here in the US, the very moment that anyone moves to arrest him at a foreign airport, IMO."
Posted by: No More Ham, Ed

"European countries should expel the ambassador from Jordan and recall their own ambassador, and suspend diplomatic relations with Jordan."
Posted by: Alert

YES!

"I would love to see how this plays out..."
Posted by: Ladywolfnl

Stick around. We're all going to get to see how it plays out.

Posted by: Eastview at June 29, 2008 9:58 PM

I really don't understand this. If Wilder did not make his film in Jordan or show the film in Jordan, how could he have broken a Jordanin law? If I insult Islam here in the USA, could I be subject to a Jordanian arrest warrant?

Posted by: BrynneMawr at June 29, 2008 10:20 PM

If Wilder did not make his film in Jordan or show the film in Jordan, how could he have broken a Jordanin law?
.. from post above.

Muslims make and break laws as convenient....

Posted by: Alert at June 29, 2008 10:34 PM

"I SEE NO DIFFERANCE BETWEEN JORDANS ARREST WARRANT OF GEERT AND DENMARKS WANT TO TRY HIM EUROPE I THINK IS GONE" .
????????????????
This comment don't make no sense -
Denmark do not want to try him - they are still for free speech and opinions.
The Jordanians also sent out arrest warrants on the Danish Editors and cartoonist, that started all these muslim riots and resulted in the bombing of the Danish Embassy in Pakistan.
Get your info straight.
But these arrest warrants from the Jordanians is just another Islamic try to silence their critics.

Posted by: thefugitive at June 29, 2008 10:49 PM

I would still like to know what part of Fitna was inaccurate, untrue, or deceptive so I can understand why muslims are so upset about it. It depicted islam accurately with muslims doing most of the talking, so what's the problem?

How could it possibly be insulting to muslims to listen to the words of their own clergy or to read excerpts from their cursed qur'an?

If muslims are insulted and humiliated by what they saw and read in Fitna, they should find a real religion that doesn't reek of death, hate, destruction, and perpetual warfare. The fact that islam is a predatory, filthy death cult isn't Wilders' fault.

This is just too insane to believe. If a Dutch citizen can be arrested anywhere in the world because some rabid muslims in Jordan want to try him in a kangaroo court for the non-existent crime of hurting their feelings, justice is dead.

Does this mean that all Europeans are subject to the laws of Jordan, or is there some special treaty between Jordan and the E.U. that criminalizes hurting the feelings of muslims?

Posted by: Susanp at June 29, 2008 11:00 PM

The behaviour of the international community - that they do not speak up and defend Gert Wilders since he has NOT COMMITTED ANY CRIME is beyond the pale. Is there no one willing to stick their righteous neck out to stand by him when he's being hunted by the Muslim world like a Nazi war criminal? The person who quoted Pastor Martin Niemöller had it exactly right.

First they came for the Jews
and I did not speak out
because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for the Communists
and I did not speak out
because I was not a Communist.
Then they came for the trade unionists
and I did not speak out
because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for me
and there was no one left
to speak out for me.

Pastor Martin Niemöller

Posted by: Kemaste at June 30, 2008 12:24 AM

I am Geert Wilders!

Lets make t-shirts.

Posted by: thelittlegreekwoman at June 30, 2008 1:10 AM

Mosques are plenty, graveyards are plenty, but morals and whiskey are scarce. The Koran does not permit Mohammedans to drink. Their natural instinct does not permit them to be moral.
- Mark Twain

Posted by: feralcat9 at June 30, 2008 4:09 AM

"Whiskey for my men, beer for my horses."

Posted by: Lt. Presley O'Bannon at June 30, 2008 4:19 AM

He can stay at my place if needs be.

I've noticed that those who hate Wilders REALLY hate him with a vengeance. I was stuck sitting next to a Dutchwoman on a KLM flight recently...New Age Leftie type coaching managers in authenticity training ( puh-leeze!)....and she called Wilders thoroughly evil. I had nowhere to move to on the plane. Needless to say it is an excruciating and painful experience being in close proximity to such irrational and wilful ignorance, to such psychosis.

Posted by: johndoe at June 30, 2008 4:56 AM

sarcasm on/

I think Mr. Wilders should surrender himself to Jordan behind a column of tanks.

Posted by: David England at June 30, 2008 7:37 AM

If you think this is dangerous, wait until B. Hussein Obama is President. He will lead the movement to have the US law "recognize" and "conform" to Sharia law. If he is not a Muslim, he views them in a very favorable light. Almost all his family is Muslim.

Why do we continue to admit Muslims into the US? Because the "left wing" holds out for more of them; a large Muslim population will make it easier for them to destroy the US - the untimate aim of all true "lefties." What other reason would there to be to admit more and more of those sworn to destroy the "Great Satan."

Posted by: theoldtrooper at June 30, 2008 8:02 AM

I really don't understand this. If Wilder did not make his film in Jordan or show the film in Jordan, how could he have broken a Jordanin law? If I insult Islam here in the USA, could I be subject to a Jordanian arrest warrant?

Posted by: BrynneMawr

Worse. You could get a death sentence. Ask Salman Rushdie. He lived in hiding for years after writing a NOVEL that Ayatollah Khomeini found offensive.

Posted by: PMK at June 30, 2008 8:06 AM

Mosques are plenty, graveyards are plenty, but morals and whiskey are scarce. The Koran does not permit Mohammedans to drink. Their natural instinct does not permit them to be moral.
- Mark Twain --posted by feralcat9

Whoa, Mark!

I would only change "Their natural instinct" to "Islam."

Posted by: darcy at June 30, 2008 8:13 AM

Here's another Twain gem:

Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress. But, I repeat myself. --Mark Twain

LOL

Posted by: darcy at June 30, 2008 9:02 AM

I was stuck sitting next to a Dutchwoman on a KLM flight recently...New Age Leftie type coaching managers in authenticity training ( puh-leeze!)....and she called Wilders thoroughly evil. I had nowhere to move to on the plane. --johndoe

She called Geert "thoroughly evil." It's unbelievable, just unbelievable.

What did you say back, johndoe?

Posted by: darcy at June 30, 2008 9:05 AM

"She called Geert "thoroughly evil." It's unbelievable, just unbelievable.

What did you say back, johndoe?"..Darcy

I have to confess I manouevred the line of talk to something else. You could argue I wimped out but I couldn't stomach a scrap with yet another loony liberal multiculturalist incapable of listening to what I had to say, clinging tenaciously to their intractable deluded Polyanna vision of the world. I decided it would be a futile exercise. But yes, I chickened out.

Posted by: johndoe at June 30, 2008 9:48 AM

"I was stuck sitting next to a Dutchwoman on a KLM flight recently...New Age Leftie type coaching managers in authenticity training ( puh-leeze!)....and she called Wilders thoroughly evil. I had nowhere to move to on the plane. --johndoe

"Authenticity training"? What in god's name is that?

Posted by: Hugh at June 30, 2008 11:47 AM

I am English. My wife is Dutch. We live in Australia and are Christians.
My Brother-in-law & Sister-in-law in Holland are the same as the woman on the KLM flight - their heads are buried in the sand and they are disgusted by Geert's comments and fall over themselves in favour of Islam!!
Well we are hoping to meet and share with Geert in just a few weeks time. Geert is a man of great courage who has the guts to Stand Up and be Counted. As do each and every one of us that follow Roberts sites with a passion.

God Bless the Free World and God Bless Israel, and HIS CHOSEN People!!

Islam is satanic and evil beyond comprehension. Mohammed was given his "Quaran" by Satan and his "God" - Allah - IS SATAN!! This is so easily proven through scripture.

God Bless each and every one that contributes to this site - spread the word!! Have courage to take a stand and denounce this Satanic way of life called "Islam"!! "Peaceful Religion!!!!" - I don't think so Dubbya - or Condi, or Cheney, or Rumsfeldt and all the other Neo-Cons and Oil Magnates.... Money hungry thieves, each and every one. There is but One Way!! That of Jesus Christ! NONE Come to the Father BUT BY ME" Take heed all that don't truly understand this - there is NO OTHER WAY!!
Till Next Time!

Posted by: OneWay-Jesus at June 30, 2008 12:33 PM

"Authenticity training"? What in god's name is that?'...Hugh

I did manage to elicit an explanation from my fellow passenger and I understood from all the woolly gobbledygook that it refers to the same old twaddle about being your true authentic self,not hiding behind a mask, being vulnerable but purposeful and clear about one's intentions and wishes. I could go on. Now I'm all for helping team leaders be effective and so on but do they really need this. isn't the cauldron of life enough...learning through experience the hard way? SHAM...the Self Help and Actualisation Movement.....a perfect acronym. No wonder she thought Wilders is evil. He's real.

Posted by: johndoe at June 30, 2008 1:11 PM

What did you say back, johndoe?"..Darcy

I have to confess I manouevred the line of talk to something else. You could argue I wimped out but I couldn't stomach a scrap with yet another loony liberal multiculturalist incapable of listening to what I had to say, clinging tenaciously to their intractable deluded Polyanna vision of the world. I decided it would be a futile exercise. But yes, I chickened out.

Posted by: johndoe at June 30, 2008 9:48 AM

Well, at least you admit you "chickened out." OK, well, no, I haven't been in that situation on a plane, however, I believe that if my seatmate had called Geert "thoroughly evil," I would have countered with, "Uh, hello, he's a frickin' hero and tells the truth about evil Islam." I would enjoy my antagonist's shocked reaction. Then, I would ask the steward for another seat, if that was possible. If it wasn't possible, and my MoonBat imbecile seatmate kept baiting me after learning about my position on Geert, I'd tell him/her to "shut-up" or I'd call the Pilot in to make him/her shut-up. And again request another seat.

So, it's speculation, but I believe that's what I'd do.

Posted by: darcy at June 30, 2008 3:27 PM

"There is but One Way!! That of Jesus Christ!" --posted by OneWay-Jesus.

Agree with you, O Yes.

And yes, Islam is satanic, no doubt. Just compare "allah's" words with Jesus's words - Night and Day. Evil and Good. Hate and Love. War and Peace.

They are diametrically opposed.

Posted by: darcy at June 30, 2008 3:37 PM

What if he travels without a broad?

Posted by: TheOmegaMan at June 30, 2008 3:56 PM

Darcy....you're made of tougher stuff than me. I regard you as an inspiration. Next time I'm confronted with another nitwit like this....and it won't be long because they're omnipresent in this somnabulent age we're living in....I'll do my best to handle it with more integrity and fortitude.

Posted by: johndoe at June 30, 2008 6:20 PM

johndoe - you could always have the N Dawood Penguin paperback Koran tucked in your bag..or, if books are no longer permitted on planes because of 'security concerns', a page or two showing, in full, the suras Wilders quotes, chapter and verse, together with the anti-Jew hadith to which he draws attention.

And a goodly selection of the others, that he DIDN'T quote, in order to show that he surely wasn't cherry-picking.

After all, Wilders didn't even *mention* anything from Sura 9.

A copy of the Pact of Omar, with the blueprint Rules for Dhimmis, wouldn't hurt either.

Or 'The Tears of Jihad': a printout, one or two pages' worth, of the guesstimate of total humans deliberately butchered, on three continents, by jihadis, in the name of allah, as calculated by Bill Warner of Centre for the Study of Political Islam. Bill guesses a body count of 270 million, give or take a few millions, in the course of 1300 years of Islam. That doesn't, of course, include the other victims: those who died not directly by the scimitar but indirectly, as a result of jihad-and-pillaging-induced famines; and those who survived, but endured the misery of enslavement.

Do the maths. Even if you even it out over 1300 years, 270 million means 20 000 per year; it gets worse when you reflect that world population in, say, AD 700 or AD 1000 or even AD 1500 was nowhere near as big as it is now, so, say, 20 000 people butchered per year by jihadis is much bigger, proportionate to then total world pop., than it looks nowadays.

Some years, of course, in the history of Islam, accounted for a LOT more people than just 20 000: one million Armenian Christians were disposed of in just two or three years, in the early 20th century; and the mass killings of Hindus during the Muslim conquests and occupation of India frequently involved tens or hundreds of thousands of Hindu or Buddhist noncombatants methodically butchered in the space of mere days, weeks or months.

Or you could tuck up your sleeve Tina Magaard's comparison of the language in the source texts of Islam, with that in the source texts of no less than ten other world religions.

- Jyllandsposten, Denmark, 10 September 2005.
'Islam er den mest krigeriske religion - Islam is the most Warlike religion

'A Danish language researcher has spent over three years analyzing the original texts of ten different religions, and concludes that the Islamic texts stand out by encouraging terror and violence to a larger degree than other religions do.

'Four years after the terror attacks at the World Trade Center, Danish linguist Tina Magaard presents an analysis that questions Islam’s relationship with terror, violence and Holy War.

'Islamic texts encourage terror and fighting to a far larger degree than the original texts of other religions, concludes Tina Magaard. She has a PhD in Textual Analysis and Intercultural Communication from the Sorbonne in Paris, and has spent three years on a research project comparing the original texts of ten religions.

“The texts in Islam distinguish themselves from the texts of other religions by encouraging violence and aggression against people with other religious beliefs to a larger degree.

'There are also straightforward calls for terror.

'This has long been a taboo in the research into Islam, but it is a fact that we need to deal with," says Tina Magaard.

'Moreover, there are hundreds of calls in the Koran for fighting against people of other faiths.

“If it is correct that many Muslims view the Koran as the literal words of God, which cannot be interpreted or rephrased, then we have a problem. It is indisputable that the texts encourage terror and violence. Consequently, it must be reasonable to ask Muslims themselves how they relate to the text, if they read it as it is," says Tina Magaard."

But when you get to Tina's last sentence, tell your interlocutor about al-taqiyya, and that when we DO ask them 'how they relate to the text', we must remember that they are permitted to lie in order to protect and advance Islam...

Posted by: dumbledoresarmy at June 30, 2008 7:38 PM

Darcy....you're made of tougher stuff than me. I regard you as an inspiration. Next time I'm confronted with another nitwit like this....and it won't be long because they're omnipresent in this somnabulent age we're living in....I'll do my best to handle it with more integrity and fortitude.

Posted by: johndoe at June 30, 2008 6:20 PM

Hi john. Thanks for the compliments. I might also say to the Dutch Moonbat, "Hey, how come you people keep letting the Islamic Barbarians in to your civilized country?" And when she returns with, of course, to be expected, "You're a racist!" I counter with "Since when is Islam a race?"

LOL. Just imagine the look on her face! Probably rates a few popping blood vessels, lol.

Posted by: darcy at June 30, 2008 11:48 PM