What ever you think about Dutch Politicians, prosecuting Wilders would leave themselves open to Muslim pressure, self preservation is the order of the day here. The other point is that if they did prosecute him it would only make him more popular with the Dutch voters. They want to stay in power unfortunately they do not realise that they are well past their sell by date.

Posted by: Holger Dansker at July 1, 2008 6:37 PM

A Jordanian prosecutor on Tuesday charged Dutch politician Geert Wilders with blasphemy and contempt of Muslims ...

"...contempt of Muslims ? "

Is that a prosecutable charge in the EU?

Doesn't this presume that muslims have been elevated to a superior class of citizenship and therefore enjoy rights in the EU not enjoyed by ordinary citizens?

This is lunacy at its finest -- it is the Dutch who should be "annoyed" by the OIC.

I suspect they are at this brazen declaration of supremecy.

Posted by: witness at July 1, 2008 6:41 PM

Message to Jordanian Prosecutor: Go Screw yourself, your Terrorist Manual Qur'an, your false mass-murderer "prophet," and your hoax "religion," Islam.

Got that?

And I wish I could say the above to your stupid Barbarian face.

Bravo Geert. Stay strong. Don't let the islamic Barbarians get you down. We're all standing strong with you.

Posted by: darcy at July 1, 2008 6:45 PM

"...he compared Islam's holy book to Hitler's Mein Kampf."

Oh, they are the same.

Now, come and get me you Barbarians.

Freedom of Speech! Freedom to criticize, insult, offend, mock, defame, and ridicule Islam, Mo, and Q.

Posted by: darcy at July 1, 2008 6:48 PM

Bravo Darcy -- I think your message will arrive at the intended person. You would be VERY surprised at just who is watching JW.

Posted by: witness at July 1, 2008 6:48 PM

How many high-profile, non Jordinian Islamic preachers who glorify terrorists in their sermons, or advocate the subjugation of Infidels, or claim women are inferior, ect...have warrants out for their arrests for insulting Islam?

Posted by: Jimmy the Dhimmi at July 1, 2008 6:49 PM

Bravo Darcy -- I think your message will arrive at the intended person. You would be VERY surprised at just who is watching JW.

Posted by: witness at July 1, 2008 6:48 PM

I hope you're right, witness.

Hey there you Islamic Barbarians! Go screw yourselves! And, stay in your Mohammedanistans, OK? Don't be coming over to the West now with all your "offended" crap and "demanding" crap, you got that?

Stay in your own Crapistans, that's a good Barbarian!

Posted by: darcy at July 1, 2008 6:54 PM

I hope you're right, witness.

Hey there you Islamic Barbarians! Go screw yourselves! And, stay in your Mohammedanistans, OK? Don't be coming over to the West now with all your "offended" crap and "demanding" crap, you got that?

Stay in your own Crapistans, that's a good Barbarian!

Posted by: darcy at July 1, 2008 6:54 PM

Oh, I'm right alright ;) the only thing you have to fear is the JW editors -- so watch your "p's" and "q's."

But of course they at least mean well.

Don't worry -- I assure you that some highly placed people on this planet frequently lurk around this sight.

Sometimes, its fun to watch them watch -- lol.

Posted by: witness at July 1, 2008 6:59 PM

Anybody but a willfully ignorant muhammadan knows that muhammad was a rapist, thug, liar and murderer.

The Quraan is the hate manual of that awful bigot. His vicious war-manual mandates the subjugation and/or death of anyone who is not Muslim.

Until that foul, hateful screed is destroyed for all eternity, the muhammadans are going to have to get used to the infidels calling a spade a spade.

Just because muhammadans are psychos where good is evil and black is white, doesn't mean we infidels have to join them in the nuthouse called Islam.

Posted by: Ynkedoodl at July 1, 2008 7:00 PM

er, uh, "site" as opposed to "sight" or "cite"

....8(

Posted by: witness at July 1, 2008 7:02 PM

After the decision, Geert called Jordan "The Banna Republic" http://www.telegraaf.nl/binnenland/1401823/__Jordanie_is_bananenrepubliek__.html?p=1,1

Oh Marcy, Here is the website of the "King" of Jordan.
http://www.telegraaf.nl/binnenland/1401823/__Jordanie_is_bananenrepubliek__.html?p=1,1

I have already left my feed back ......

Posted by: Ladywolfnl at July 1, 2008 7:03 PM

In Riyadh, the Organisation of the Islamic Conference (OIC), a league of 56 Muslim nations, said it was "deeply annoyed" after Dutch prosecutors said on Monday they would not take action against Wilders as he was protected by the right to free speech.

Yeah that "free speech" is annoying to them isn't it?

Who the H do they think they are anyways, the rulers of the world?

As darcy so eloquently put it above.....and good riddance

Posted by: gymgal at July 1, 2008 7:05 PM

Remember when Scheuer got insanely angry at Emerson for saying Muslims are against our freedoms?

That dispute has now been resolved in favor of Emerson.

Posted by: Beagle at July 1, 2008 7:09 PM

A Jordanian prosecutor on Tuesday charged Dutch politician Geert Wilders with blasphemy and contempt of Muslims ...

No, actually it goes deeper than that for me. Contempt is too mild a word. Loathing doesn't even begin to describe it. Nor disgust. But again a rousing thank you to the OIC for doing a good job of helping us westerners understand what islam (lack of capitalization intentional) is all about and what is in store for us if we don't defeat the islamic scourge. Screw the OIC, islam, your psychotic warlord prophet, and your barbaric 7th century mores. But rock on my muslem brothers. Think in terms of a little rioting, burning, shooting. Kill a few of your co-religionists as you predictably do when you think you've been insulted. Actually the word has just come to me. Hatred. And bemusement at the fact that a billion or so residents of this planet are essentially brain dead. We in the west need to realize that and turn off the life support, stop sending money and trading with you. Without us you'd fall back into the 7th century where you belong.

Posted by: Rick at July 1, 2008 7:18 PM

It is ironic.

Fitna shows quotes from Quranic verses recited by Middle easterners and related actions by Middle eastern folks. Fitna doesn't show any crazy westener reciting or indulging in despicalbe deeds. So no one can claim bias or hatred.

If Jordan wants to prosecute someone, it should be the crazy non westerners in the video.

Long live Freedom!!!!
Desi

Posted by: Desi at July 1, 2008 7:28 PM

There's contempt of court, contempt of Congress, and now, contempt of Muslims. The funniest thing I have heard in a long time.

If Mohammedans weren't so damn dangerous, they would be really be a good comic relief diversion.

Contempt of court: Thirty days.
Contempt of Muslims: Death

Posted by: Pelayo at July 1, 2008 7:46 PM

I have a deep contempt of Muslims and of that Great Pedophile Mohammad (may he rot in Hell forever).

Now Jordan will prosecute me for Blasphemy and contempt of Muslims.

My word to Jordan: Come and get me!

Posted by: Mystical Time Traveler at July 1, 2008 8:04 PM

Contempt of muslims? What was your first clue?

Posted by: HotSpur at July 1, 2008 8:08 PM

I don't know, and I don't care, what the views of Geert Wilders are on taxation, or education, or upkeep of Dutch infrastructure, or on women's rights, or on environmental matters. I would like to think he has the right ideas, as I see it, on those things too. But it really doesn't matter. I don't know a thing about him, other than what he has written and spoken about Islam and things connected directly to it, such as the Jihad against Israel and the Muslim demographic conquest of Western Europe.

But were I a Dutch voter, and I hope there will be Dutch voters who think as I do, I would forget about this, and forget about that, and I would make sure to vote for Geert Wilders and all those who openly support him, and to work to defeat all those who have made a point of attacking him. As for the silent ones, who are waiting to see which side their bread is buttered on, let them learn from a display of support for Wilders that manages to convince them it is time to stand up and be counted -- on the right side, the side of common, and moral, sense.

Posted by: Hugh at July 1, 2008 8:18 PM

I wish I had said what Hugh said.

We have a lot of people to convince that Jihad is the serious threat that it is. I have stopped commenting on two skeptic/atheist forums because it is like teaching thermodynamics to a chimpanzee. Not only will it annoy the chimp, but it will probably get angry and bite the prof. These people (the Chimps) are still deluded into being scared of fundamentalist Christians and their silly creation theories.

My professional life has been spent with engineers and other techno-types. Almost universally my colleagues understand the jihad threat. Even the young college graduates I meet are not infected with the multi-cultural disease that affects most of our leaders, who, by the way, are law school graduates.

Posted by: Pelayo at July 1, 2008 8:57 PM

A Jordanian prosecutor on Tuesday charged Dutch politician Geert Wilders with blasphemy and contempt of Muslims for making an anti-Koran film and ordered him to stand trial in the kingdom,
talk about muslim gall i guess in that muslim Jordanian prosecutor eyes since Geert Wilders is just a infidel he must do what his wantabe mudlim masters demand ;not

judicial sources said.

In Riyadh, the Organisation of the Islamic Conference (OIC), a league of 56 Muslim nations, said it was "deeply annoyed
big deal in looking at the so called muslim nations the oic claims it looks like there are only about 20 that are muslim majority

Posted by: ISLAMSNOTFORME at July 1, 2008 9:02 PM

How does one say Eff you in Dutch and then how does one say it in Jordyptian? Perhaps a simple gesture would suffice on my part.

Posted by: Jewel Atkins at July 1, 2008 9:08 PM

The Emperor and the fool : http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2001/04/20010410-1.html

Posted by: Alert at July 1, 2008 9:14 PM

I can't read it, Alert, it is too heart breakingly stupid. I feel to wince.

Posted by: Jewel Atkins at July 1, 2008 9:21 PM

So now the over sensitive self centered Muslims think they can force their religious laws on non-Muslims who do not even live in their country. I hope some more of the world wakes up and sees what the Islamic world has in store for us.

As for Jordan, screw you and your religion.

Posted by: Exposing Islam at July 1, 2008 9:46 PM

What Hugh said! Again!

Posted by: HotSpur at July 1, 2008 9:56 PM

The trouble is that Greet Wilders, made a small film solely focused on terrorism and Jihad - the film Fitna was mainly suras from the Koran, followed by footage of Islamic terrorists' attacks or Imams speaking. All presented in a non-incendiary way that draws the dubious conclusion that 'Fitna' is Islam , Jihad and Terrorism is Islam, and it's coming, and getting stronger and will destroy the West. This is hard to believe.

Though I must admit , Greet Wilders , is merely saying what the terrorists are saying... yet he's the one who's apparently Blaspheming?

Posted by: David Xavier at July 1, 2008 9:59 PM

Hugh. Yes!

Posted by: Catherine Martin at July 1, 2008 10:05 PM

Hugh. Yes!

Posted by: Catherine Martin at July 1, 2008 10:05 PM

Hugh. Yes!

Posted by: Catherine Martin at July 1, 2008 10:05 PM

Hugh. Yes!

Posted by: Catherine Martin at July 1, 2008 10:06 PM

FoxNews has it posted about halfway down its World News Section. It's very inconspicuous. One would miss it without searching.

ABC has nothing on its site.

MSNBC has nothing on its site.

CBS has nothing on its site.

We are in huge trouble, ladies and gentlemen. Our media are diligently covering for the advancement of Sharia.

By the way:

Isn't Blasphemy punishable by death under Muslim law

I could swear I read that somewhere. (Which would make Reuters another media outlet guilty of complicity in the jihad...and this abominable prosecution.)

Posted by: INFIDELATLARGE at July 1, 2008 10:09 PM

What is the difference between an 'annoyed' Muslim and a 'deeply annoyed' Muslim? The latter will put rat poison on the nails of his bomb belt.

Posted by: poetcomic1 at July 1, 2008 10:20 PM

"'The decision ... encourages and supports the irresponsible defamatory style followed by some media outlets and instigates feelings of hatred, animosity and antipathy towards Muslims,' the Saudi Arabia-based OIC, said in a statement."

This is rich. Wilders instigates feelings of hatred, animosity, and antipathy towards muslims ... by publicizing their own texts. Wow. Does anybody else wonder whether flying planes into buildings and killing thousands of innocent people might create a little animosity? How about honor killings? How about suicide murders using children? How about genocide in Darfur? How about destruction of Christian churches throughout the middle east and Malaysia? How about systematic and continuous assaults on Western values and civilization?

Why is it that almost all the violent conflicts around the globe somehow involve islamic fascism? If the problem really is creating animosity and antipathy towards muslims, the OIC and the Jordanians need to do a little self-examination first. Yeah, like that's going to happen.

Come and get me, barbarian. Bring it!

Posted by: MLMOON at July 1, 2008 10:24 PM

From Darcy: Message to Jordanian Prosecutor: Go Screw yourself, your Terrorist Manual Qur'an, your false mass-murderer "prophet," and your hoax "religion," Islam

My sentiments exactly. Only I would generalize it to include all Islam...Is that contempt of muslims, or just Islam? Is there any difference?
The next time some Jordanian, Rage Boy, shouts 'death to America', I want him arrested there, and brought here for trial, for making hate and terrorist threats, and hurting the feelings of Americans...

Posted by: duh_swami at July 1, 2008 10:42 PM

It's a shame the Dutch won't respond in kind.

First, they should bring charges against every islamic cleric/leader featured in Fitna -- let's see, contempt of Non-muslims, incitement, hate speech, etc., etc. Of course, there are many, many Muslims who've made similar statements, but the short length of Fitna precluded their inclusion. The Dutch could start with the former Jordanian minister's incitement to muslims to conquer Spain and Rome, and go from there. Eventually, the Dutch could also demand those clerics on record as supporting the beating of wives. And those who compare non-covered women to meat, etc.

Next up, those who have actually killed/tortured in the name of Islam. Demanding Bin Laden is a no-brainer. But how about every time there is another "honor" killing starting with, but not limited to, Jordan, the Dutch could demand extradition of the family members on charges of contempt of women (and first degree murder). Then on to those who have murdered Christians/Buddhists, Hindus, etc. across the entire OIC membership.

Then there are the charges that would highlight the ridiculousness of so many who have the credentials to speak for Islam. They could focus on those clerics whom we see in crazy MEMRI clips, perhaps paying particular attention to the Saudis among them. Maybe some charges of contempt for colored underwear and Pepsi and such. Oh, and don't forget charges of cartoon contempt.

Oh, the fun the Dutch could have displaying the appropriate level of righteous indignation. But suppose the ummah complied with the Dutch demands to bring them all to trial in the Netherlands? Such a small country. How ever would they fit them all in?

Posted by: CJ at July 1, 2008 10:43 PM

I hold every Muslim who follows his 'religion' in contempt.

I don't hate, I don't care for those who are ignorant and pass as marginal Muslims. As a matter of fact, I have Muslim friends in Indonesia who are marginal Muslims, who never bothered much about the religion, and they're deeply worried about the way the country becomes increasingly Islamized.

But I reserve the right to hold every headbanger, every coffee-filter and every bearded, kaftan-wearing fanatic in contempt. As a matter of fact I want to see them detained and deported. And I am perfectly within the law to hate the subversives, the useful idiots and the infil-traitors, the Muslim spies, the Hesham Islams and their enablers. And I hate the ignorance and the stupidity in the white House that made it possible.

For Muslims I must be a hater, after all...

Posted by: sheik yer'mami at July 1, 2008 11:09 PM

Anybody but a willfully ignorant muhammadan knows that muhammad was a rapist, thug, liar and murderer.

Posted by: aynrandgirl at July 1, 2008 11:26 PM

Don't worry guys. Everything's ok because Jordan is a "moderate" Islamic nation.

Posted by: S Perry at July 1, 2008 11:32 PM

If the OIC were really concerned with -- and opposed to -- "the instigation of hatred, animosity and discrimination", they (the OIC) would ban their own so-called koran.

Posted by: del at July 1, 2008 11:41 PM

Is there anyone out there, reading this, who knows how to create decorated T-shirts? Anyone who can do a nice caricature/ cartoon of someone's face, from public-domain photographs, which can then be screen-printed?

We need a tasteful line of T-shirts with stylized representations of the faces of Geert Wilders, Oriana Fallaci, Robert Redeker, Magdi Cristiano Allam, Michael Nazir-Ali, Pope Benedict XVI, and anyone else who has, in recent times, stood up to Islam in public and called a scimitar a scimitar.

Me, I think Bat Yeor's face, the compleat sweetly smiling Jewish grandma, would look very nice on a T-shirt, as would that of Ayaan Hirsi Ali. Most artistic. (How about a design that represents three wise and beautiful ladies, Bat Yeor, Ayaan, and Oriana together, in allegorical garb: Bat Yeor for Truth, Ayaan for Freedom, Oriana for Courage?).

Several slogans could perhaps be provided, mix n match. E.g: 'long live Israel!' 'defeat the Jihad' 'NO to sharia', 'Down with dhimmitude', 'Lan astaslem!', 'Free speech forever!'. Or just 'God bless Geert' (or name of any other counter-jihadists one might care to name).

Even Mr Spencer's smiling cheerful-uncle visage, somewhat stylized, beard and all, would look pretty good on a T-shirt (the jihadwatch web address would of course be included). Move over Che Guevara!

All proceeds, after covering cost of production, to be channelled into a secure fund to provide suitable legal and or physical protection for those out there on the front line of the counter-jihad.

Posted by: dumbledoresarmy at July 1, 2008 11:55 PM

Yeah that "free speech" is annoying to them isn't it?

Who the H do they think they are anyways, the rulers of the world?

As darcy so eloquently put it above.....and good riddance.

Posted by: gymgal at July 1, 2008 7:05 PM

LOL. Sometimes you just got to say "Screw 'em" --

like this:

As for Jordan, screw you and your religion.

Posted by: Exposing Islam at July 1, 2008 9:46 PM

Diplomacy doesn't work with Mohammedans, force does. Force in both language and action. I'm sick and tired of all of this eggshell-walking with Mohammedans.

Posted by: darcy at July 1, 2008 11:58 PM

When I, a thoughtful and unblessed Presbyterian, examine the Koran, I know that beyond any question every Mohammedan is insane, not in all things, but in religious matters. I cannot prove to him that he is insane, because you never can prove anything to a lunatic—for that is a part of his insanity and the evidence of it.
- Mark Twain

Posted by: feralcat9 at July 1, 2008 11:59 PM

So when are the Jordanians (no, not the Bulls of the 1990s) going to arrest bin Laden, who is more guilty of claiming Islam is violent than anyone else? Or Hamas? Or the Muslim Brotherhood? Or Fatah? Or Hezbollah? They can get these guys much faster; they all are in their neck-of-the-woods. (oh, i used the word "neck". he-he-he).

I agree with the media ignoring this. The only terrorist that most people are aware of is Jeff Dunham's Achmed, the Dead Terrorist. I hear his line "I kill you" is quite popular now.

Posted by: lightlysalted at July 2, 2008 12:12 AM

Since the Netherlands govt can't say to Jordan what it really needs to say, let me please say it to Jordan on their behalf: "Dear Jordan government. In response for your request to have us send Mr Wilders to your country to face your charges: Go F*uck Yourselves. Thank you."

Posted by: robertkjjj at July 2, 2008 12:54 AM

express your oppion to the jordian embassy in holland
http://www.jordanembassy.nl/embassy/contact/feedback.htm

Posted by: ISLAMSNOTFORME at July 2, 2008 1:13 AM

Ladywolfnl, thank you for the link to the Dutch article. One of the commenters to that article pointed out that since Jordan is not a republic, but rather a monarchy, the proper term should be "Banana Monarchy." Thank you.

Posted by: Eastview at July 2, 2008 1:41 AM

"Jordan charges Geert Wilders with "blasphemy"..

It is my understanding the charge of blasphemy is based on like minded thought as the starting point. Charging G.Wilders with blasphemy is a error as his views never held to the same as those who accuse him.

His view on islam is based, and sound, as I understand it. Islam is the enemy to the followers of it, as well as the rest of us.

Posted by: Islofob IS-1 at July 2, 2008 1:41 AM

imo the oic are a bunch of cowards i just tried to send my comments on there annoyance and not one of the links worked

Posted by: ISLAMSNOTFORME at July 2, 2008 2:05 AM

It's a shame the Dutch won't respond in kind.
...
Posted above by CJ at July 1, 2008 10:43 PM

Great idea, CJ! If the Muslims want to play this game, then let's respond in kind. It would be a great way to flush these monsters out into the open and expose them for the barbarians they are.

Posted by: Eastview at July 2, 2008 2:14 AM

"A Dutch anti-discrimination group, The Netherlands Shows its Colours, said it would appeal the prosecutors' decision . . . "

What "colors" would those be? Primarily yellow, the universal Western signifier for cowardice, as well as the Muslim signifier for obedient dhimmi?

Posted by: Marwan'sDaughter at July 2, 2008 2:31 AM

@CJ at July 1, 2008 10:43 PM
Simply issue an international arrest warrant for their muppet king, since nothing happens overthere without his approval.

Posted by: Kim Hartveld at July 2, 2008 3:53 AM

What about Islamic Jihad ..... it is the crucial part of Islam..... and teaches Violence ....murder and mayhem

Lessons in their Manual

The al Qaeda manual
http://www.disastercenter.com/terror/index.htm

The al Qaeda manual presented here was made available by the FBI which distributed the manual on their website: www.fbi.gov

Posted by: Gabrielle at July 2, 2008 4:03 AM

The Contact website posted before does not transmit ..... wonder why ?????

BUT ,,,,,here you can act as well !!!!!!

You can write to the Jordan Embassy in The Netherlands:
Embassy of the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan
Badhuisweg 79
2587 CD The Hague
Tel: +31 70 4167200
Fax: +31 70 4167209
E-mail: info@jordanembassy.nl

For America; HKJEmbassyDC@aol.com

For Jordanian Media;
http://www.jordantimes.com
jotimes@jpf.com.jo

Editorial and advertising offices Jordan Press Foundation Queen Rania Al Abdullah Street, P.O. Box 6710, Amman, Jordan Telephone: +962-6-5600800 Facsimile: +962-6-569-6183 Ayman Safadi Responsible Editor in Chief

Posted by: Gabrielle at July 2, 2008 4:20 AM

Gabrielle, I just tried the contact site http://www.jordanembassy.nl/embassy/contact/feedback.htm and it works just fine.

Posted by: Eastview at July 2, 2008 5:48 AM

I have just had a quick glance through the Dutch Online newpappers.The reporting is somewhat bland very little comment but they catch Wilders turn of phrase perfectly. The comments are the most interesting. The Telegraph has received about 500, from what I can tell 10% at a guess have been deleted by the editorial staff because they breached their posting policy. The Dutch language like most languages can be very colourful. Another 10% against, with very few mulsims from what I can gather. But the rest all basically in favour of Wilders cheering him on mainly with more than a few caustic comments about the Government. I think the Muslims have shot themselves in the foot again. this sort of controversy can only be a win win situation for Geert.

Posted by: Holger Dansker at July 2, 2008 8:05 AM

The OIC said the prosecutors' decision showed they ignored the "thin line separating freedom of speech and the instigation of hatred, animosity and discrimination."

If the instigation of hatred is a crime then all Muslim imams need to be arrested immediately and sent to Jordan for trial.

Exactly when was incitement to violence, a real and legitimate curb on free speech, reduced to "the instigation of hatred, animosity and discrimination"?

The old definition doesn't do Muslims any good, either. Imams and all others who have issued fatwas calling for the killing of non-Muslims or even of ex-Muslims or Muslims who have been deemed apostates should also be charged by Jordan. Their courts will be busy for quite a while.

Posted by: PMK at July 2, 2008 9:14 AM

Muhammad was the most violent of all "prophets" so I have no doubt his followers are immitating him EXACTLY as he was!

Posted by: hanztripper at July 2, 2008 12:34 PM

Listen here what Geert Wilders himself had to say about the making and reactions to his Film "FITNA"

http://www.vimeo.com/1110435

the transcript to this speech can be found here:

http://www.sappho.dk/arrangementer/geert-wilders-tale.html

I wish there were more politicians like him -

there are peaceful muslims......... but ISLAM is NOT a peaceful religion, no matter how many times Bush and other Dhimmies repeat it.

The next we will see is bombing of Dutch Embassies, and hear the excuse:
"You brought that on yourselves" as they told the Danes after the Mo-toons and attack of their embassy in Pakistan.
"And if you don't apologize, and change your laws of free speech, we cannot garantee that there will not be more attacks..."

That's peaceful, allright............

Posted by: thefugitive at July 2, 2008 12:55 PM

"A Dutch anti-discrimination group, The Netherlands Shows its Colours, said it would appeal the prosecutors' decision . . . "
............................

Perhaps this group should rename itself, "The Netherlands Strikes its Colours"! That would seem more appropriate.

(This is an old naval term--to "strike one's colours" meant to run one's flag down--a universal sign of surrender).

Posted by: gravenimage at July 3, 2008 12:29 AM