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July 3, 2008

"He yelled Allahu Akbar and hit the gas"

The Palestinian Arab who killed three people in a bulldozer rampage yesterday was a freelance jihadist -- once again underscoring the international need for the Islamic groups who profess to oppose today's jihad activity to begin to teach actively against it. But they are not doing so, and will not do so, and if you think they are doing so or will soon, I have a very fine bridge to sell you.

"Palestinian's rampage the work of `lone attacker,' police say," by Dion Nissenbaum and Cliff Churgin for the McClatchy Newspapers, July 2 (thanks to JCB):

JERUSALEM — A Palestinian construction worker commandeered a construction vehicle and rampaged through central Jerusalem on Wednesday afternoon, killing three people in what police later described as the spontaneous act of a lone attacker.

Dozens were injured as the front-loader flattened cars and flipped a crowded bus before its driver was shot dead by an Israeli soldier on leave who scrambled onto the vehicle.

Though the attack evoked memories of the politically motivated suicide bombings that demoralized Jerusalem during the second Palestinian uprising, police said that the man appeared to have no ties to militant groups.

"This appears to have been a spontaneous attack," Israeli Police Commissioner Dudi Cohen said.

Three militant Palestinian groups claimed responsibility for Wednesday's rampage, but police officials dismissed all of them as groundless.

Police identified the driver as Hosam Dwayyat, a married, 30-year-old father of two who lived in predominantly Arab East Jerusalem.

Israel's Channel 2 reported that Dwayyat had served two years in prison for rape and attempted murder.

[...]

The attack created confusion and pandemonium as people scrambled for safety.

Assaf Nadav , the driver of the bus that the front-loader flipped on its side, said he wasn't sure what was going on when he saw people running away from the construction vehicle as it headed toward him.

"He hit me lightly and I rolled down my window to ask him what he was doing when I saw him lower the scoop and turn the bus upside down," Nadav said on Israel Radio. "Screaming would be an understatement."

Two armed men and a police officer scrambled onto the vehicle, wrestled with the driver, then shot him, Israeli Police spokesman Mickey Rosenfeld said.

The men thought the attack was over, but the driver then lurched forward in a scene captured by nearby cameramen.

In a video that aired on Israeli television, one person rolls out of the way of the Caterpillar as the three armed Israelis wrestle with the driver.

A man in shorts and a T-shirt, later identified in Israeli news reports as 18-year-old Moshe Plesser , shoots the driver twice in the head, who then slumps in the seat.

Plesser, an Israeli soldier who just finished basic training, said the man yelled "God is great" in Arabic before trying to continue with his rampage.

"He yelled Allahu Akbar and hit the gas," Plesser told Israel's Yediot Ahronot newspaper.

Posted by Robert at July 3, 2008 11:38 AM
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The saddest thing is that his family will be receiving welfare payments from the Israeli government because it's lost a breadwinner. Adding recent Israeli decision to exchange live terrorists for dead bodies, one should wonder if the Jews are as smart as they're trumped up to be.

Posted by: Muslims Against Sharia [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 3, 2008 12:04 PM

All that the truce between Israel and Hamas has done, is (somewhat) prevent the 'organization' of Hamas, from attacking Israel. Meanwhile, it does absolutely nothing to prevent Palestinians 'in general' from attacking Israel. There is also no particular group or person which Israel can negotiate with, for a truce. The only thing Israel can do, is boost security and hope for the best. That's all any of us can do...

Posted by: Rogster [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 3, 2008 12:20 PM

".......lone attacker......?

Alone only in the sense that he did his deed by himself. I'm quite sure that the video of the attack was viewed by millions of cheering muslim jihadists, who exhort each other into violence against the rest of the world every single day.

Posted by: n.a. palm [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 3, 2008 12:21 PM

According to the Yahoo! account of this incident, the murderer's aunt was ululating and screaming "He's a martyr!"

Religion of Peace, my hairy backside.

Posted by: Narrator 1 [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 3, 2008 12:30 PM

No, No , No - This rampage was the action of a man who obviously suffered from mental problems. Perhaps he had forgotten to take his meds, or was suffering from undiagnosed depression or schizophrenia, or (name your favorite disorder).

The man who stopped the attack with a duly administered injection of 9mm fmj should have tried to talk with the troubled man who was only reacting to Israeli injustice.

Gee, I could be a reporter at the NYTimes or WaPo.

Posted by: Pelayo [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 3, 2008 12:31 PM

" ...the man appeared to have no ties to militant groups."

No ties, except the most important tie of all--genocidal Islam and the muderous Example of the Pirate Mohammed.

Posted by: Stendec [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 3, 2008 12:32 PM

Muslims have an uncanny capacity to make their faith despised by growing legions of people and in so many ways. As an example, the two words "Allah Akbar" have now come to be associated by non-believers like myself with destruction, murder and mayhem. They've become horrible words to hear or read, just as the very mention of Islam now elicits sundry negative thoughts by millions upon millions across the earth, with the number of these millions growing yearly. Way to go, Muslims.

Posted by: Wellington [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 3, 2008 12:32 PM

murderous

Posted by: Stendec [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 3, 2008 12:32 PM

On a news clip yesterday and Israeli policeman (someone in a uniform) said it had "nothing to do with terrorism".

Posted by: Sounder [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 3, 2008 12:35 PM

At least we have found an 18 yo hero.

Posted by: darvvin [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 3, 2008 12:42 PM

The inability of so many to relate "terrorism" to the presence of Muslims, and to understand that "terrorism" (as we Infidels have no trouble defining it) is for many or most Muslims merely another, updated, form of combat or "qitaal," and furthermore to understand that even in its true form, "qitaal" or "combat" is only one, and not the most effective or most dangerous, instrument of Jihad, disturbs.

But even if we stick only to the subject of terrorism, there appears to be all kinds of confusion. An Arab or a Muslim can be prompted by the texts of Islam to join a terrorist group that may have nothing to do with Al-Qaeda, or in another sense, everything to do with Al Qaeda, because the promptings are the same. Local Jihads, sometimes comically misdescribed as having nothing to do with Islam but "nationalist" in nature -- the other day I saw Hamas, which is completely Islamic from head to toe (just read the Charter), and by no means has the "limited" goal of destroying Israel, as some dreamily allow themselves to believe -- added together, are that one world-wide Jihad. The mistreatment of non-Muslims, and attempts to persecute or terrorize them within Muslim-dominated lands, is one form of Jihad. The attempt, through well-financed and carefully-targetted campaigns of Da'wa to spread Islam in the Infidel lands, is another form, or rather instrument or means, for furthering the "Jihad" or "struggle" to remove all obstacles to the spread, and then the dominance, of Islam. Deployment of the Money Weapon is still a third.

Look at this act. When Eric Westervelt on NPR quoted the police chief of Jerusalem Dudi Cohen as believing that the Arab had "acted alone" and that, therefore -- it seemed that Westervelt was implicating Cohen in his own misunderstanding -- this couldn't be an act of "terrorism," one had to rub one's eyes in disbelief.

Look. Conspiracies require two or more people.
But terrorism does not. The lone Muslim, who has perhaps rediscovered his Islam, like the boy who, having graduated at the half-year from Chapel Hill, and at loose mental ends, had rediscovered --because his parents had allowed him to retain his Muslim identity, instead of forthrightly severing the family's link with Islam -- Islam, started to find in it solace and a Complete Explanation of the Universe, and then, to perform a deed that might justify his wretched existence, got hold of a car and attempted to run down fellow Chapel Hill students in a pedestrian concourse known as "The Pit."

It takes two to tango. It takes two to conspire. It does not take two to plan or commit an act of terrorism.

What happened in Jerusalem yesterday was an act of murder, of attempted murder, and of terrorism.

Posted by: Hugh [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 3, 2008 12:50 PM

There have been many attacks that we would describe as sudden jihad syndrome that the "authorities" discount as the isolated work of a sick mind. Examples: the LAX 4th of July gunman, the Egypt Air pilot who crashed his plane, the Beltway snipers. I am curious about other incidents that are swept under the rug, not to be discussed in "polite" society. Here are two:
1.) The French soldier who opened up on a crowd at Carcasonne recently. He thought he was firing blanks?
2.) The Air Canada flying officer (copilot?) who had to be restrained in the cockpit due to a mental problem
Perhaps I am overly suspicious, but our "leaders" would do well to provide full information on incidents like these if only to make suspicious types like me stfu.

Posted by: MP [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 3, 2008 12:50 PM

Above, Hugh gave one way of describing Islam-----a Complete Explanation of the Universe. So true. So totalitarian. So Islamic. So wrong.

Posted by: Wellington [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 3, 2008 1:09 PM

What a disgrace:
Jewish girl mourns death of terrorist:

Posted by: Madzionist [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 3, 2008 1:17 PM

M.A.S.:

Always glad to have you onboard--we Islamophobes get mighty lonesome sometimes. As they say, no good deed goes unpunished--chivalrous decency and humanity doesn't always work the way we expect.

Posted by: John C [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 3, 2008 1:33 PM

If an off-duty military man in the USA did here what the off-duty Israeli soldier did there, he would probably be arrested and placed on trial.

Posted by: The Cool Ghoul [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 3, 2008 2:07 PM

Wellington wrote:

Muslims have an uncanny capacity to make their faith despised by growing legions of people and in so many ways. As an example, the two words "Allah Akbar" have now come to be associated by non-believers like myself with destruction, murder and mayhem.
....................

This is so true. Here's a story from a few days ago in The East Bay Express, which covers the story of an Oakland gangbanger and rapper going by the street name of "Pretty Black".

It sounds as though he robbed some rival gang members of drug money, and was killed in retaliation. What makes this different from any number of depressing drug killings, though, is the threatening message left on "Pretty's" site just hours before his murder, which read in part:

"Pretty Black robbed the wrong people in East Oakland and didn't know who he go we got something for u and your not going any where . . . next time you should of killed us there is not next time ALLAH AKBAR WE WILL C U ANYWHERE"

Now, I have absolutely no reason to thing that these particular thugs were actual Muslims, either mainstream Muslims or Black Muslims. As semi-literate as they are, though, clearly they realized how threatening "Allah Akbar" is.

Here's the link:

http://www.eastbayexpress.com/blogs/was_san_leandro_rapper_threatened_before_his_death_/Content?oid=749033


Posted by: gravenimage [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 3, 2008 2:14 PM

Oakland - the home port of "Your Black Muslim Bakery" scene of lots of illegal shenanigans.
I'll have 2 bean pies in'shallah.

Posted by: MP [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 3, 2008 2:50 PM

The ex-girlfriend said Dawyyat's life could have been spared: "Why did they have to put those two bullets in him (after the attack was over)?" she said. "I'm very sad today. At first my parents were angry with me because I cried over his death, but now they are consoling me, because the media are harassing me. I'm reliving the entire episode after eight years.

He loved me and I loved him; we were each other's first love. He wasn't violent all the time, only when he had a reason to be jealous, she recalled. "I loved him despite what he did to me. He was everything to me during that time."

http://madzionist.blogspot.com/2008/07/jewish-girl-mourns-death-of-terrorist.html


Really; he wasn't violent all the time? Just when he had a reason to be jealous?

Sweetheart, you're out of your _____ mind!

Posted by: witness [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 3, 2008 2:51 PM

Forgive the guy-since palestinians are allergic to building anything useful he figured he might as well put a bulldozer to some sort of use by killing some evil Jews with it.

Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 3, 2008 2:56 PM

Israel's Channel 2 reported that Dwayyat had served two years in prison for rape and attempted murder !!

He should have been put away for life.

Posted by: Al-Insan-El-kamel [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 3, 2008 3:03 PM

Shahid:

Watch video of the attacker's aunt calling him "Shahid"

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/998404.html

Posted by: NewsWather [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 3, 2008 3:36 PM

" Israel's channel 2 reported that Dwayyat had served 2 years in prison for rape and attempted murder."

So..we see that Dwayyat was already a baptized muslim.

Posted by: pismopal [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 3, 2008 3:40 PM

`lone attacker'
well it was just dwayyat and islam
satan akhbar!

Posted by: TINBH [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 3, 2008 6:14 PM

At least one article referred to Plesser as a 'teenager', I suppose because he is eighteen. He is not a teenager, he is a soldier, a hero, and a man.

Posted by: duh_swami [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 3, 2008 6:25 PM

duhswami

totally agree with you about young Moshe (i.e. Moses). A worthy bearer of his historic, Biblical name.

Another hero in the Jaffa Road was a young Jewish man, recently from the UK, Jeremy Aronson (i.e. 'Aaron's son') who risked his life to snatch a little baby girl out of a car that the jihadi assassin had just attacked and which was attacked again and completely crushed moments later. The details are unclear and the story varies a bit in the different reports, but judging from Aronson's own account he had only a very short time (I think assisted by some others who helped with the car door) to reach in and seize the baby and get her away. Had Mr Aronson run from the scene of mayhem, rather than towards it, that little baby would have been among the dead.

I remember reading a story on an Israeli English-language blog, some time ago, about a suicide assassin (female) who was stopped at the entrance to a crowded supermarket, by a middle-aged Israeli Jewish security guard. He was heard saying to the Arab female jihadi, as they struggled, something like, 'You are not going in there. You and I are blowing up right here'. She managed to detonate herself; she killed him, of course, and people round about; but thanks to his smarts and courage she wasn't able to kill anywhere near as many people as she'd have done had she gotten inside.

Moshe and Aronson are made of the same holy stuff as that guard who died stopping a suicide assassin. Pure human gold.

Posted by: dumbledoresarmy [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 3, 2008 7:43 PM

witness -

I had heard that the jihadi had had a Jewish girlfriend. Silly, silly girl. The way she's talking is classic: it's the way abused women always talk, blaming themselves, excusing the abuser. Islam creates extremely clever and plausible abusers, past masters at the art of messing with their victims' heads (dhimmitude...).

Did no-one ever tell Dwayyat's Jewish girlfriend about those three Jewish girls, Rayhana, Juwariyya, and Safiyya, whom the 'prophet' Ubul Kassim, ha-Meshugga ('the Madman'), known to Muslims as Mohammed, raped and added to his harem after his thugs had destroyed their peaceful Arabian Jewish communities?

Since Muslim men are supposed to admire and emulate EVERY DETAIL of Mohammed's conduct, the fact that Mohammed seized and raped Jewish women after killing off their families, should make any Jewish girl very very wary of Muslim men.

Phyllis Chesler the Jewish feminist, in her silly salad days (she's much wiser now!) married a charming Afghani Muslim. She escaped from Kabul and durance vile, by the skin of her teeth; and wrote about it in 'My Afghan Captivity'.

On her blog recently she discussed a couple of books by an American woman - cautionary horror stories, all true, of American women who fell for charming Arab Muslim men but discovered that the charming princes had a horrid habit of turning into poisonous toads overnight.

http://pajamasmedia.com/phyllischesler/2008/06/20/american-woman-arab-man-tales-of-horror-in-the-harem/

The most striking passages from the review:

"Cassandra lives. No, I am not talking about the ancient Trojan prophet whose visions went unheeded and whom the Greek conquerors enslaved. This is another kind of Cassandra.

"Her visions of danger and doom concern what happens when an American woman {or, ANY non-Muslim woman} marries an Arab and Muslim man. Cassandra herself was once married to an Arab Christian {?} and, based on that experience has, so far, written two books:

Escape from an Arab Marriage. Horror Stories of Women Who Fled From Abusive Muslims Husbands (2006) and

Thirty Three Secrets Arab Men Never Tell American Women (2008).

'In the first book, she tells the stories of many American women who married Arab Muslim men and what happened to them.

"The stories are gripping, terrifying, highly dramatic–and depressingly similar.

"At first, the men are utterly charming, generous, solicitous of their American girlfriend’s every need.

"After they are married to American citizens and can claim their own citizenship, they revert to form: Almost overnight, they become cruel, condescending, physically abusive, suspicious, insanely controlling, unfaithful, deceptive, and highly secretive."

'cruel, condescending, physically abusive, suspicious, insanely controlling' - everything that israeli girl says about Dwayyat tells me he fit that description to a 'T'.

If this Jerusalem jihadi's Jewish ex-girlfriend knows English, it sounds like a charitable friend needs to give her 'Thirty Three Secrets Arab Men Never Tell American {or, in fact, ANY non-Muslim} Women'. Then she might wake up and realize that her oh-so-charming (but murderously jealous and violent) Arab Muslim boyfriend/ seducer was running true to type; and be able to say, 'good riddance to bad rubbish'.

Sounds to me as though those books Phyllis was reviewing ought to be translated into Hebrew, pronto.

Posted by: dumbledoresarmy [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 3, 2008 8:10 PM

The ex-girlfriend said Dawyyat's life could have been spared: "Why did they have to put those two bullets in him (after the attack was over)?" she said.
.................................

Who says the attack was over? It was only over when Dawyyat was shot, not because he had ceased trying to kill people.

Dumbledore's Army wrote, citing "Escape from an Arab Marriage":

"After they are married to American citizens and can claim their own citizenship, they revert to form: Almost overnight, they become cruel, condescending, physically abusive, suspicious, insanely controlling, unfaithful, deceptive, and highly secretive."

This was exactly the case with Betty Mahmoody's husband--she tells the story way back in the 1970s in her book, "Not without my Daughter", which was made into a film starring Sally Field.

He seemed like a charming fellow when she first met him in Texas--it was on a trip back to his native Iran that he revealed what he was really like. Her story of escaping with her daughter is brave and harrowing.

When I first read the book I was appalled, but assumed that Mahmoody's husband was probably crazy. I had no idea at the time that he represents and all too common type.

Unfortunately, Dawyyat's Infidel ex-girlfriend represents a pretty common type, also. Despite his abuse and violence towards her, she is all too ready to excuse his murderous actions, and to blame the brave men who ended his killing spree instead of him or his sick ideology.


Posted by: gravenimage [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 3, 2008 10:27 PM

"He yelled Allahu Akbar and hit the gas"
An appalling crime, and a tragedy for the families of the murdered victims. My deepest condolences go to them, though I doubt they read this.
Erroneously reporting a front-end loader to be a 'bulldozer' is a blatant attempt at evoking equivalence, but the MSM has no shame, so I expect no less. How many average network viewers saw a picture of a front-end loader and heard 'bulldozer' and doubt crept into their minds about the veracity of the report they watched?
Kingdoms have been lost for want of a nail.

Posted by: Dana [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 4, 2008 12:09 AM

Dumbledore...
Excellent and all encompassing post

Now for the people who want to see the best video of 18 year old hero Moshe Plesser eliminating the bulldozer Jihadist (front end loader really)

Moshe is a yeshiva student and in the IDF.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWUb2J4RKlc

Posted by: dennisw [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 4, 2008 1:50 AM

Al-Insan-El-Kamel posted--"He should have been put away for life".

He was!

Thanks, young Plesser.

Posted by: guide inside [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 4, 2008 2:01 AM

John C,
If you consider freeing terrorists in exchange for dead bodies or providing financial support for terrorist’s family manifestation of “chivalrous decency and humanity” you must be as brain-dead as Israeli cabinet. It doesn’t take clairvoyance to realize that these actions will result in more kidnappings and more attacks. How can you expect Islamists to stop terrorism when Israel is asking for it?

Posted by: Muslims Against Sharia [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 4, 2008 2:35 AM

Dana wrote above........

"He yelled Allahu Akbar and hit the gas"
An appalling crime, and a tragedy for the families of the murdered victims. My deepest condolences go to them, though I doubt they read this.
Erroneously reporting a front-end loader to be a 'bulldozer' is a blatant attempt at evoking equivalence, but the MSM has no shame, so I expect no less. How many average network viewers saw a picture of a front-end loader and heard 'bulldozer' and doubt crept into their minds about the veracity of the report they watched?
Kingdoms have been lost for want of a nail.

____________________________________________________

Lost for the want of a master key also. Yes I agree and the news videos played up the 'bulldozer' error blatantly. The CAT was big enough in size to be a 988 front-end loader. Tire height vs people.

Now maybe the hidden CAT "power on keys" will be pulled worldwide. When the responsible operator shuts them down. That was a S.O.P. on our veneer log yard.

There were brave men on the streets that day. Thankfuly just one in an islamic stupor.

MK

Posted by: Melaria_Kidd [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 4, 2008 6:36 AM

M.A.S.:

You are, of course, correct. In the lexicon of the Obama campaign, my words were "inartful." I referred to Israeli--more broadly, Western--dispositions and motives as "chivalrous decency and humanity--not policy decisions or selfish, short-sighted political calculation.

I appreciate your indignation and moral outrage.

(Say, just what kind of Muslims and "holy strugglers" are you, anyway? It's like you see and define evil outside the prism of Islamic orthodoxy--what are you, some kind of religiously objective pragmatist? I thought only Christians and Jews went in for that introspective soul-searching stuff--I thought Muslims just strived interiorly to become better Holy Warriors.)

Posted by: John C [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 4, 2008 7:35 AM

Hugh, I suppose to the people on the bus as they watch the bulldozer ram and then lift the bus over on its side, the feeling of fright they felt throughout the ordeal could be described as a minor inconvenience. What they felt was more attuned to ...? like the jolt from caffeine after you drank what you thought was decaf.

The press and the authorities are playing a condescending form of psychology on what they believe are the simpletons of Islam spread throughout the world. They fear copycat acts occurring, and after every act such as this bulldozer clown they try to tamp down any thoughts within other Islamists who may also begin to question their goodness as a person of Islamist beliefs. Too complicated to get into the details of this psychology and its tactics, but I want to believe these psychological/sociological band-aids on the Islamist mind and mentality may actually keep things at bay. It may be good to have the media portray these individuals as different from those peaceful ones of Islam.

Of course, as you and I know, the better solution is to find a way to get close enough to then pierce the jugular of the Beast. We will relish those historic moments for the rest of our lives, standing there and watching this dinosaur die. God almighty a man couldn't ask for a more glorious moment in life then to be called and to partake of such a noble deed: to kill the legitimacy of this Beast and in affect (effect?) to rid it off the earth.

 ...

Posted by: k24anson [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 4, 2008 8:16 AM

"Pretty Black robbed the wrong people in East Oakland and didn't know who he go we got something for u and your not going any where . . . next time you should of killed us there is not next time ALLAH AKBAR WE WILL C U ANYWHERE"

gravenimage,

They could very well be mainstream Muslims. Far from being semi-literate they could very well be immigrants. They might have a poor grasp of English but that doesn't make them illiterate. We set a trap for ourselves if we think they're stupid or that someone else is using Islam for his own ends and that "mainstream" Muslims don't think or act this way.
Even American-born Muslims can do this. Remember the DC sniper, John Allen Muhammad, and his Jamaican companion, John Lee Malvo. They left notes at their murder scenes as well.

Posted by: PMK [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 4, 2008 8:41 AM

A lone attacker?

There are over one billion "lone attackers" who share his philosophy and who could strike at any time. After all, this is their world. We just happen to be living in it.

Posted by: PMK [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 4, 2008 8:43 AM

Sudden Jihad Syndrome.

(is this related to Bush Derangement Syndrome ?)

In any event, Hugh, who sometimes gets things wrong (like environmentalism, Iraq and his own Marxism), but is eminently forgiveable for these lapses because of his intelligence, definitely gets this one thing right, and definitely elucidates and nails this disease.

The disease is fundamental islam.

Scratch a jihadi and find the disease.

"islamaphobia" most likely is a sign of Western health. It may well be a badge of honour.

Posted by: dgene [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 4, 2008 9:54 AM

John C

"In the lexicon of the Obama campaign, my words were "inartful.""

I'm glad we're on the same page.

"Say, just what kind of Muslims and "holy strugglers" are you, anyway?"

Not every Muslim has to be a 'holy struggler'. The problem, as we pointed out many times is that the Wahhabi-funded American Muslim establishment that claims to represent all Muslims does not. There is a sizable minority, roughly one third (check our polls - http://www.reformislam.org/polls/ - to see a clearer picture) that doesn’t buy this ‘Dar al-Islam vs. Dar al-Harb’ BS. But what can you expect when 80%+ of the mosques that are run by the Wahhabis and almost every civic organization, i.e., CAIR, ISNA, MPAC, MAS, MSA, etc. continue to indoctrinate Muslims and prepare them for future war. We bitch and moan about what’s going on in Saudi Arabia or Iran, but the same crap is going on in American Muslim community.

Islamic (or any other) Orthodoxy doesn’t make sense. Supremacy of any religion is the same as racial supremacy. And we all know what happened to the Aryan super humans. We are pragmatists. Nothing else makes sense.

Posted by: Muslims Against Sharia [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 4, 2008 1:47 PM

If you are trying to explain Sudden Jihad Syndrome to anyone under the age of 30, and your interlocutor is a Star Wars fan, try explaining that the multiple Quranic injunctions to 'fight the unbelievers and let them find harshness in you', 'to slay and be slain in the cause of allah', to 'kill them wherever you find them', may usefully be compared to 'Order 66' as featured in George Lucas's Star Wars movie, 'Revenge of the Sith'.

Once the program is 'activated' - and almost anything may do as a trigger, it doesn't require a 'central command', though right at the moment, like Emperor Palpatine in the movie, many jihadi bosses are in fact explicitly sending activation signals - the Mohammedan, either in company or alone, will start attacking Infidels.

Posted by: dumbledoresarmy [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 4, 2008 6:47 PM

this muslim became a "pious muslim" and lived his life like his prophet, killing people.

Posted by: ZenaWarriorPrincess [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 4, 2008 11:11 PM

ZenaWarriorPrincess is just as brain-dead as any Islamofascist, who also believe that killing non-Muslims is an obligation for every Muslim.

Posted by: Muslims Against Sharia [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 6, 2008 1:33 PM

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