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As everyone knows, Obama has been going to some lengths to make sure nobody thinks he's a Muslim. Nor has he been making any particular effort to add, "Not that there's anything wrong with that." Today the reliably dhimmi Wall Street Journal gives space to Junaid M. Afeef, director of public and government Affairs at the Council of Islamic Organizations of Greater Chicago, to blame this not on Obama's canny political calculation and tacit awareness that people are suspicious of the violent and supremacist elements of Islam, but on "Islamophobia," that rampant plague which, he says, has claimed yet another victim: the sainted candidate himself.
It is a particularly grotesque irony that the Wall Street Journal would print this whine about "Islamophobia" the day after a man shouting "Allahu akbar" murdered three people in Jerusalem -- as if the problem (yet again) were not the people who commit such acts in the name of Islam, and the utter failure of peaceful Muslims to take the first step toward cleaning house. Oh no -- that doesn't provoke any "Islamophobia" at all. It's all about racism and bigotry, doncha know. Everyone would love Muslims and Islam, and find them cute and cuddly, were it not for Western non-Muslim "Islamophobes" spreading racism and bigotry by...noting the fact that some guy shouting "Allahu akbar" and running amok with a bulldozer murdered three people in Jerusalem yesterday.
"Obama Should Embrace His Muslim Heritage," by Junaid M. Afeef in the Wall Street Journal, July 3 (thanks to all who sent this in):
Many Muslim voters love Barack Obama. They love him even if he doesn't seem to love them back.One young professional I know credited Muslims' enthusiasm for Sen. Obama to a perceived promise of a "brand new, informed international perspective." Other Muslims are moved by a broad and empowering message of hope and change in a tumultuous time of trouble and strife. And many see a reflection of themselves in Mr. Obama – a person who looks different, has a funny name, a sense of the world beyond our borders, and at the same time is very patriotic. That is how most Muslims in America view themselves.
In most circumstances such a strong affinity would be embraced by a candidate. But an affinity with Muslims is perceived by his campaign as a liability.
Mr. Obama is another victim of Islamophobia. He is now facing what Muslims have been and still are struggling with: an irrational fear and hatred of Muslims. Polls show that as many as 25% of Americans admit to prejudicial feelings against Muslims.
Mr. Obama knows that Islamophobia has taken root in the U.S. Islamophobia hits very close to home for him because his father, from whom he also derives his black heritage, was a Muslim.
While his heritage may include Muslims, Mr. Obama is a Christian, and when his religion is incorrectly identified he rightly corrects the record. Now there is even a Web site called "Fight the Smears" that challenges the lie that he is a Muslim.
The problem, however, is the manner in which he corrects the record. He vociferously denies being a Muslim as if it were a slur.
That is true; he does. And it is a very sharp political move. Muslims aren't going to vote for McCain no matter what. And by implying that to call him a Muslim is a "smear" (the website rebutting the claim is called Fight the Smears), Obama implies also that he will be tough on Islamic terrorism.
Mr. Obama does not need to take this approach. He knows how to smash through barriers. He brought whites and blacks together in the primary, no small feat in a nation that still struggles with race issues.As a great leader, Mr. Obama should take a principled stand on the issue of Muslims and Islamophobia. While anti-Muslim sentiment in the U.S. is substantial, it is not an insurmountable challenge.
The vast majority of Americans are sincere and open-minded; anti-Muslim sentiments are a product of fear and lack of understanding. These sentiments can be overcome.
Mr. Afeef, anti-Muslim sentiments are a product of Muslims Allahu-akbaring while operating bulldozers, AK 47s, and passenger jets in order to kill infidels.
If Mr. Obama simply said, "Yes, there are Muslims in my family, and while I am and always have been a Christian, I embrace my family's religious diversity," then surely the vast majority of Americans would move on to the real issues in his campaign.
He should say that there are Muslims in his family, since it is true, and since some of his statements seem to suggest that he hasn't been completely forthright about this aspect of his background. It would dispel suspicions of dishonesty.
Meanwhile, it's interesting that Junaid Afeef can say that Obama should "embrace [his] Muslim heritage with the same vigor and eloquence with which [he has] embraced [his] white and black heritage" in the dhimmi WSJ and it is an example of diversity and broad-mindedness and multiculturalism, but when I said he should do something very much like that at Jihad Watch it traveled around some lefty blogs as just another shameful example of "Islamophobia." Ain't multiculturalism grand?
Posted by Robert at July 3, 2008 12:39 PM
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"Polls show that as many as 25% of Americans admit to prejudicial feelings against Muslims."
Perhaps that's because 25% of young American Muslim men believe that suicide bombing against civilians can be justified...to defend Islam. Same sentiment among 13% of ALL American Muslims.
13% of 5 million (or whatever CAIR's current tally supposedly is) is 650,000 potential suicide killers, Mr. Aleef.
Tiny Minority of Extremists(TM), indeed.
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at July 3, 2008 1:15 PM
Go to it, Junaid, my man -- embrace the Honorable Barack Hussein even tighter!
Posted by: John C at July 3, 2008 1:26 PM
25% have prejudicial feelings against Islam or at least they should. Individual Muslims are irrelevant. Although that number does seem a bit low. Maybe 25% would admit it with the margin only getting bigger.
"Muslims aren't going to vote for McCain no matter what."
Well, I wholeheartedly agree, but at least we can get a few pespectives here. Elibiary's position is ultimately unclear and he has not yet responded, but the comment responses are far more enlightening.
Posted by: awake
at July 3, 2008 1:26 PM
"Polls show that as many as 25% of Americans admit to prejudicial feelings against Muslims."
This poll should be expanded to include Worldwide opinion. I can guarantee that the percentage will be a lot higher---drastically--
at July 3, 2008 1:29 PM
Huh? I thought the "victims" of Islamophobia were Muslims. But if Barack Obama is and has always been a Christian (always been??? but that's another discussion), how can he be a victim of Islamophobia? Aren't his emphatic denials another form of perpetrating "islamophobia" (known as being Islamophobic). Or can one be simultaneously both Islamophobic and an Islamophobia victim?
So if one can be a victim of Islamophobia just by denying (rightly) one is a Muslim, and one can be a victim of Islamophobia just by being a Muslim, does that make everyone in the entire world a victim of Islamophobia???
Ei-yi-yi, all this victimhood is making my head hurt. But who can I blame if everyone is just as much a victim as I???
Posted by: CJ at July 3, 2008 1:50 PM
The vast majority of Americans are sincere and open-minded; anti-Muslim sentiments are a product of fear and lack of understanding.
fear = They want to kill me.
lack of understanding = Why would they want me dead?
These sentiments can "NOT" be overcome.
Posted by: Dsinc at July 3, 2008 1:55 PM
Polls show that as many as 25% of Americans admit to prejudicial feelings against Muslims.
I have feelings against Moslems, but they are certainly not prejudicial ones. Rather they are post-judicial, based on the evidence. Every day thousands of Moslems say they want to destroy me and my family, my country, my culture, my heritage, and my religion. They do so individually, as government leaders, as terrorist spokesmen, as imams. And they do so in mobs, at rallies in London, in demonstrations in Gaza, or Islamabad, or Teheran.
At the same time, thousands of others are acting on these words, killing (or trying to kill) non-believers all across the globe, from New York to Sudan, London to Nigeria, Madrid to Bali.
So no, we haven't pre-judged anything. The evidence is in. Moslems are a danger to us and to civilization.
at July 3, 2008 1:57 PM
Only 25%? Nah. Gotta' be higher than this. Sure hope so or this nation is in even bigger trouble than I thought.
Posted by: Wellington at July 3, 2008 2:08 PM
From their lofty ivory towers, puny pointy headed idiots love to look down from their lofty perches and call the peons racist and Islamophobic. It give them a feeling of euphoria while they make themselves feel superior to the rest of us. Certain individuals who lack any common sense from FOX News and the Wall Street Journal are really good at doing this.
Posted by: Spot on at July 3, 2008 2:19 PM
Obama is a politician like any other and he knows that Muslims are "radioactive" in the US. That's why his wife stressed his love of bacon when she was on "The View" and why his campaign announces his outreach to Christian "evangelicals" and Jews,while ignoring Muslims.Despite his free ride from the MSM, Obama remains essentially tied with John McCain in the Gallup poll. Even though McCain is old, not charismatic, has less money and is not trusted by a significant portion of the Republican base. Since Obama usually over polls he might actually be trailing McCain.Obama also knows that Muslims have no where else to go and that they will vote for him no matter what.He also knows that Muslims are not a big enough voting block to make a difference in a close Presidential election. Obama got 90% of the Muslim vote in the Pennsylvania primary and lost to Hillary Clinton by 10 points. John Kerry got 90% of the Muslim vote in the last election while Bush ended up getting more votes then any candidate in the history of the United States.The Amish actually had more of an impact on the last election as many registered to vote for the first time in OH and PA and they voted heavily for Bush thanks to the gay marriage issue.Bush lost PA and won where he had to in OH.
Posted by: Roxane at July 3, 2008 2:22 PM
Someone needs to explain this to me because I just don't get it.
Obama's continued denial of his Muslim background has me confused. Isn't being a Muslim supposed to be a good thing? Aren't we constantly told that Islam is the Religion of Peace? And isn't anything other than that considered Islamophobia?
So... why isn't he embracing it? And why isn't he called a racist and Islamophobe for not embracing it?
I tell ya, I need scorecards or notes or something. I can't keep all of this straight.
Posted by: Mo at July 3, 2008 2:30 PM
"...anti-Muslim sentiments are a product of Muslims Allahu-akbaring while operating bulldozers, AK 47s, and passenger jets in order to kill infidels."
Well said, as usual, Robert.
Posted by: undaunted at July 3, 2008 2:33 PM
"Polls show that as many as 25% of Americans admit to prejudicial feelings against Muslims."
-- A damn good start but not nearly enough.
Posted by: Ummah Gummah at July 3, 2008 2:44 PM
I'm sure it would be easy to find...I have to go kill some Carpenter Ants quick like, or some other company will get the work. I'd do a search...somethin' like "Obama neighbor Muslim" oughta do it.
One of Obamas neighbors when he was livin' in...Chad?...Whatever the hell Islamic s**thole he was livin' in as a kid... said that he was studyin' the Koran and goin' to a Muslim school and was a good student. Does that not make one a Muslim? At least at that time? And how is that fact a "smear" that must be defended at his anti-smear website. Crack me UP!!! He's doin' his best to have it both ways. Liars lie.
Bobbin' and weavin' like any other pol. The Messiah he aint. Just a lyin' politician like any other. Worse...cause he claims to be the opposite.
Gotta run...if I don't kill I don't eat.
Posted by: Alaskan at July 3, 2008 2:44 PM
Obama is not like any other politician they are greedy i think hes doing it for something different i believe hes a plant he was a muslim up to 31 when michelle coned him to convert for political run his friends said he went to mosque with them at 21. the school as a child he went to he was registered as a muslim in his book audacity of hope he stated he would side with islam in a war the man is not who he states he is he still backs his cousin obinga whos killing non muslkims cause he lost an election very simple the more you look the more he seems like a muslim plant and i used to say the guys not a muslim this is b./s. im telling you this guy is a muslim and hes hideing it.
Posted by: spcbat at July 3, 2008 2:44 PM
Obama is not like any other politician they are greedy i think hes doing it for something different i believe hes a plant he was a muslim up to 31 when michelle coned him to convert for political run his friends said he went to mosque with them at 21. the school as a child he went to he was registered as a muslim in his book audacity of hope he stated he would side with islam in a war the man is not who he states he is he still backs his cousin obinga whos killing non muslkims cause he lost an election very simple the more you look the more he seems like a muslim plant and i used to say the guys not a muslim this is b./s. im telling you this guy is a muslim and hes hideing it.
Posted by: spcbat at July 3, 2008 2:45 PM
Islamophobia is nothing but a figment of the imagination. Better to call it "figmentalism" with emphasis on the "mental".
Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS at July 3, 2008 2:53 PM
So Junaid M. Afeef believes victims of Islamophobia now include people that previously had associations with Islam, or currently have associations with Islam, but want to distance themselves from Islam? (and deny their associations)
Huh?
Shouldn't that make them perpetrators rather than victims?
Without realizing it, Junaid M. Afeef is really casting Barack Obama as dishonest about his ties to Islam.
at July 3, 2008 2:57 PM
Obama...
He's Black
He's White
He's Christian
He's Moslem
He's Conservative
He's Liberal
He's Poor
He's Rich
He's not a Racist
He goes to a Racist Church
The only time I can tell when Obama is lying is when his purple lips are moving.
at July 3, 2008 3:01 PM
"Obama implies also that he will be tough on Islamic terrorism."
I'm sure that is why Hamas endorsed his candidacy.
Posted by: Isabellathecrusader at July 3, 2008 3:02 PM
Poor Obama. Sorry, all out of Tissues. Ran out because of my concern for 300 Million targets.
This whole Islamophobia business is really getting old. If Islam was not so Infidelphobic, we would not have all these Issues.
Posted by: flowerknife_us at July 3, 2008 3:06 PM
Mr. Afeef, anti-Muslim sentiments are a product of Muslims Allahu-akbaring while operating bulldozers, AK 47s, and passenger jets in order to kill infidels.
Lol! But we're Islamophobes for pointing that out.
Posted by: PRCalDude at July 3, 2008 3:25 PM
@ebonystone:
"...post-judicial..." Well said.
Myself, I had bought into all the "Religion of Peace" stuff and the false projection of Christian values of tolerance, service, and love of humankind onto Islam. After 9/11, in a personal attempt to understand the causes of that attack, I began spending a great lot of time reading about Middle Eastern recent history, about the different movements, the territorial disputes, the religious sects, and terror groups, and political organizaitions, and statements of assorted leaders and think tanks. All the while I kept getting more and more confused.
Then, in the fall of 2005--four years after 9/11--I finally broke the code. The seed was an article by Bruce Thornton over at the VDH web site, wherein he discussed the Islamic concept of the dhimmi. In all those years of reading news reports and public statements and articles in the popular press, I had never seen that word--nor any other of the common doctrinal concepts that are at the root of Islamic dogma.
I searched Amazon for a book that might illuminate this historical Islamic institution of al-Dhimma--and up popped Robert Spencer's book The Politically Correct Guide to Islam and the Crusades, which I ordered. That book, which I devoured from cover to cover, broke the menal logjam and led me to this site.
Since then, I have come to understand
Posted by: Stendec at July 3, 2008 3:29 PM
Muslims have been and still are struggling with: an irrational fear and hatred of Muslims
Cry me a river.
If watching the jihadists on YouTube is any indicator, there are many, many moslems out there with evil intentions. It is in your face, blatant threats.
at July 3, 2008 3:33 PM
Sorry: Somehow my post above got posted before I was done writing. Here is a closing:
That book, which I eagerly devoured from cover to cover, broke the mental logjam, and led me to this site.
Since then, having read many more books based on the straight story and clues found here at JW/DW, I have come to understand why 9/11 happened, and why more 9/11s are going to happen, and why events in the Middle East continue to unfold the insane way they do. And it has been a shock to realize how relentlessly vicious the Islamic ideology is--counter to everything good that humanity has ever achieved.
My judgment after years of study is that the ideology called Islam must massively reform, or die a violent death. And my judgement is that Muslims are members of a death cult, and should be ashamed of themselves--ashamed--if they are unfamiliar with the core doctrines of the cult they profess to follow--of being so ignorant and incurious, and ashamed--if they do know about these doctrines--of being so intolerant and relentlessly vicious toward others.
Prejudice--my eye!
Posted by: Stendec at July 3, 2008 3:45 PM
awake.. I went and checked the link you gave. It's positiveley disgusting. They are openly in favor of Al Quaeda and also Obama. They are berating the one guy who says he's in favor of McCain.
Of course the Al Quaeda friend is thinking that McCain will keep the troops in iraq and they can "bleed out the troops".
If the troops were allowed to fight without all tghe restrictions placed upon them they'd be the ones bleeding out the enemy!
And once a mosk has been used to hide weapons or armed personnel it should be razed to the ground.
Anyway.. I think we should all post on that disgusting moslem group. I am already giving them a hard time.
There is a censor so I am saving my comments as text so I can repost :-)
Posted by: Ummah Gummah at July 3, 2008 3:52 PM
Islamophobia would imply an irrational fear of Islam. But, the fear and loathing of Islam are very rational and it is the very whiners who have helped to create it. Almost all of terrorists are Muslims the world over. All whiners for special treatment are Muslims. All victimhood claims are from Muslims.
Notice the correlation here, Junaid? The loathing for and fear of Islam is very real and for damn good reasons. Crying foul won't make it go away.
at July 3, 2008 4:05 PM
After 9/11 and all of the over 10,000 post-9/11 Terrorist attacks, this article is shocking.
The WSJ is finished.
Posted by: darcy at July 3, 2008 4:20 PM
Barack Obama and his advisors are no fools. They know that lying in wait for anyone who, outside a strictly limited few districts -- as with Ellison -- all one would have to do is start putting up ads containing Qur'an 9.5 and 9.29, and then another dozen or six dozen Qur'anic passages, and a hundred or more Hadith, and then of course asking a candidate what he thought of Muhammad, keeping in mind the mass-murdering by decapitation of the Banu Qurayza, the murders of Asma bint Marwan and Abu Akaf, the attack on the inoffensive Jewish farmers of the Khaybar Oasis, and of course little Aisha. All of that, and a good deal more, including Muhammad's advise that "war is deception," is no longer to be hidden from view.
Nor is the testimony of those "defectors" from Islam, including the highly articulate Ayaan Hirsi Ali, Wafa Sultan, Ibn Warraq, Ali Sina, and others who constitute the most morally and intellectually advanced people born, through no fault of their own, into Islam.
Those Muslims who think that any candidate could risk all for the sake of pleasing them, and of pretending that "there is nothing wrong with Islam," only then to be hit broadside, in the middle of a campaign, with everything that is wrong -- chapter and verse, sura and ayat -- with Islam, including all kinds of quotes from, inter alios, Ayatollah Khomeini, King Fahd, Azzam Pasha of the Arab League, and any number of other Muslims, clerics, rulers, journalists, whose words are now monitored, taken down, translated, and put up for everyone to see and read at that samaritan site, www.Memri.org.
No, it's too late to try to hide the nature of Islam, or to play that Interfaith-Racket game much longer. Too much is becoming known, to too many people. And then, of course, there is what the day's newspaper or television brings, with its quote of fresh atrocities, of Muslims attacking non-Muslims, as in southern Sudan, or Pakistan, or Indonesia, or Iraq, or Kashmir, or Israel or southern Thailand or the Philippines -- the Christians, Jews, Hindus, Buddhists, and all others who are, and have suffered, from Muslim masters or would-be conquerors.
Not only will Obama not commit the colossal folly of pretending that there is notning wrong with Islam (one wonders if his campaign, by the way, has found out more, as others have, about those two "innocent" girls wearing hijabs who were kept from spoiling a photo-op at a campaign rally -- the details about them prove that whoever removed them did exactly the right thing, if the right thing was to help the Obama campaign.
No, the texts of Islam, the tenets of Islam, the observable behavior of Muslims world-wide, not only in attacks in Amsteram, London, Madrid, Beslan, and a thousand other places, but in the attacks made within the Bilad al-kufr on the political and legal institutions and social arrangements of the Infidels, and in this country on the Constitution, which the Shari'a, in spirit and letter, flatly contradicts -- alll of this means that the wish expressed by Junaid F. Afeef will not be granted.
What a pity.
Posted by: Hugh at July 3, 2008 4:25 PM
I don't understand the hysteria surrounding this Obamarama phenomenon.
Blacks simply support him because he's black. Oprah may be an airhead, but Colin Powell should know better. This unquestioned support for race, for the 'black thing', is deeply worrying and quite revealing.
Obama openly lies and denies about his Muslim upbringing as if it never happened. But he was born the son of a Kenyan Muslim and a white American 'revert' mother. He lived his formative years in Indonesia, where he went to the mosque and madrassah because his mother had married another Muslim.
So how does that make him a Christian? When, and by whom was he baptized?
The black racist church of Jeremiah Wright, who preaches the same hatred as Louis Farraklans from the NOI cannot realistically pass as 'Christian'- whatever these guys are, Christian they are not.
Obama is a Manchurian candidate. We know very little about him and the enormous amount of money that enables him to conduct this outrageous election campaign is another worry. Arab Muslims love him and back him. That alone should set off the alarm bells.
Obama will show his true colors if he gets into office. There will truly be unbelievable CHANGE, and a commie-closet Muslim like him in the position of POTUS can, and will do, irreparable damage. Just think about the damage Peanut Carter caused so many years ago: he enabled the Islamic 'revolution' which is now (again) the scourge of the world.
Obama will destroy the US as we know it.
Posted by: sheik yer'mami at July 3, 2008 4:25 PM
O, they also seem to think that the best politician is.. well, read for yourselves a snippet:
"And no- not all politicians are crooks and liars (great blog btw), just look at Rep Keith Ellison. Mashallah, he is a great human being and should be commended for his difficult work and is a great example for all of us."
Posted by: Ummah Gummah at July 3, 2008 4:31 PM
People - this article was published a little after 12 AM this morning, and on the Forum there are NO comments?
Come on. NO comments? Uh, that's not believable.
I think the Dhimmi PC WSJ Editors are not "selecting" the comments in favor of "Islamophobia." Which must mean ALL of the comments!
It's not credible that there are "0" comments to this highly-controversial article.
Posted by: darcy at July 3, 2008 4:47 PM
Check this out (scroll down to find article)
http://forums.wsj.com/viewforum.php?f=28
0 comments? Yeah, right.
Posted by: darcy at July 3, 2008 4:54 PM
Darcy they are monitoring the comments. Which means anything that is critical of islam never even makes it to screen. i am not going to bother.
When I checked noone had posted, by the way, including yourself.
Posted by: Ummah Gummah at July 3, 2008 5:15 PM
Obama, lying in wait?
Here's IBA reporting: Why Is Obama Meeting Privately With An Imam From Hamas? Privately!
Now, how many clerics from any other non-muhammedan movement will Obama give equal (private) access before this election?
at July 3, 2008 5:16 PM
Darcy,
About two hours ago there was one comment at the WSJ that has apparently been removed. The comment mentioned that Muslims were too small a group for Obama to cater to at the risk of alienating the larger Christian majority.That neither Obama or any other politician would cater to such a "divisive" group at the risk of losing an election.I was surprised to see only one comment which has since been removed so I suspected there have been other comments that have also been removed. A similar op-ed in the LA Times from about a week ago generated 70 comments about 75% present of them anti-Muslim.
Posted by: Roxane at July 3, 2008 5:26 PM
Darcy,
About two hours ago there was one comment at the WSJ that has apparently been removed. --Roxane
Yes, I saw it! One whole comment! And when I went back a SHORT time later, it was gone! Good God - one comment! And the Dhimmis deleted it!
"People" mag is more respectable than the WSJ! Ditto "The National Enquirer" and "Star." I'm so ashamed of Dhimmi America words can't express. You WSJ imbeciles.
Posted by: darcy at July 3, 2008 5:36 PM
Here's IBA reporting: Why Is Obama Meeting Privately With An Imam From Hamas? Privately!
-- where did this meeting take place? I have to ask since the link doesn't work.
Posted by: Ummah Gummah at July 3, 2008 5:37 PM
(one wonders if his campaign, by the way, has found out more, as others have, about those two "innocent" girls wearing hijabs who were kept from spoiling a photo-op at a campaign rally -- the details about them prove that whoever removed them did exactly the right thing, if the right thing was to help the Obama campaign.
--
Hugh, can you please elucidate? Is there a story we need to hear about?
Posted by: Ummah Gummah at July 3, 2008 5:44 PM
Don't know about the link heryalwhyness referred to, but found the same story here:
http://www.debbieschlussel.com/archives/2008/05/the_company_he.html
at July 3, 2008 5:46 PM
Obama is a classic Progressive Socialist. Reason enough to deny him the privilege of your Vote. A product of true Multiculturalism. Where "Well Documented Opinion" reins supreme. It's meaning dependent upon shifting wind patterns. Supported heavily by Media investments.
It is not the "man" we see, but a Vision. A product developed over time where character faults are not what they seem. Filtered as it is, by guidelines, memos, policy's, agendas.
There are times when something other than "well documented opinion" makes itself into the news. Despite the best of intentions and efforts, it is true that there is still a %age of Rat in every Chocolate Bar we eat. It is just hard to tell it's there.
Obama is not all that different in concept than the "Green" movement. Another heavy Media investment. From the Play they get one would consider them the greatest force on the Planet. On the other hand, Polling shows that 3 out of 4 Americans want the Government out of the way of Drilling for Oil and Gas.
Where did all the Greens go???? They miss the Bus? Dead Battery? Shortage of Bio-Fuel from reduced Fried Food? Their Alarm failed to go off from lack of Sunlight? From the Press coverage the Greens get I thought they would have polled 50-55%. What happened?
Polling killed another Media investment as well. I think they called it Amnasty.
Obama, The only American who needs no air freshener in the Can.
If one accepts that the Country is Half Demoncrat, and the other half Sane. Based upon the Demoncratic Primary then, Just how deep does Obammas core support really go? I say the Half that went for Him. Equaling about 25% of the Population.
Roughly the same level of support the Greens have. Mmmmmmmmmmmm.
For what, 4 years of "Well Documented Opinion" had Hitlery as our Demoncratic Nominee if not outright President.
How quickly some will alter their investments for a perceived better product
Posted by: flowerknife_us at July 3, 2008 5:48 PM
Darcy,
The internet has made the world a very small place and people are becoming wise to Islam. At CAIRs website they had a link to an interview with Ibrahim Hooper and a Christian preacher from Texas on AL Jazerra. The preacher called out Hooper about his own statements about his hopes for the US becoming Islamic. Hooper claimed to have been misquoted. The preacher also talked about the hypocrisy of CAIR and Muslims in general who complain about their treatment in the US and the West. While Christians about being raped, robbed and murdered for no other reason then being Christian in majority Muslim countries.
Posted by: Roxane at July 3, 2008 5:52 PM
"Obama will destroy the US as we know it."
Posted by: sheik yer'mami
I agree sheik. How someone with his background could even be considered as a candidate for POTUS is astounding.
Insanity and evil are on the march.
Check out this video about two of Obama's friends:
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2008/07/the_friends_of_barack_obama_3.html
Elsewhere:
A story about a couple of Satan worshipping Democrats in the U.S.
“Joy Johnson, 30, a vice-chairwoman of the Durham County Democratic Party and vice chairwoman of the Young Democrats, made an appearance in court yesterday after she and her spouse, Joseph Craig, were arrested Friday.
Craig, 25, is charged with second-degree rape, second-degree kidnapping and two counts of assault with a deadly weapon for an incident in January and another in May. Johnson is charged with two counts of aiding and abetting.
According to published and broadcast reports, prosecutors said a man and a woman met Craig through a shared interest in Satan worship”
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=68469
Hey, these guys sound like real Obama team material.
Posted by: Mike_W at July 3, 2008 5:54 PM
Obama lived in Muslim country and went to Islamic schools as a child and studied the Quran as part of the classes.
He must have been told that the Quran is true, and that Allah is God, and Mohammad the perfect man as messenger. He has since had more exposure from friends and mentors.
What I want to know, is when did he stop believing Allah is God? Does he still think Allah, who has no sons, is God?
No one asks him if Allah is God...I would like to hear his spontaneous answer to that.
I bet he would stumble over that one...
at July 3, 2008 5:56 PM
Check this out (scroll down to find article)
http://forums.wsj.com/viewforum.php?f=28
0 comments? Yeah, right.
Posted by: darcy at July 3, 2008 4:54 PM
Update: The Cowards and Orwellian Muzzlers at the WSJ have now taken the article OFF the Forum!
What does that tell you, People? Answer: That the comments were AGAINST Hussein, Islam, Mohammedans, and MO.
YAY!
The Orwellian WSJ Muzzlers must be SHOCKED! LOL!
Posted by: darcy at July 3, 2008 5:57 PM
BHO won't get any hassle from the mainstream about his private meeting and if he does he'll bring up Cheyney's meeting with big oil. It's beyond me how the majority of the public is falling for this act.
The world is so concerned about hurting feelings that we're being conned into accepting lies and being naive. AQ is so patient and brilliant to not attack now. Why attack when stealth jihad is working so much faster? Sharia may happen in our lifetimes, to the delight of many an oil minister.
Never Forget.
Posted by: Nobama at July 3, 2008 6:20 PM
darcy,
WSJ always posts comments selectively. You post and you have to wait for them to put the comments on the site. There are always exceptions but you can count on 90% of their posts to be in agreement with the editor/columnist. They've often gone till 8 or 9 p.m before posting. Best to check it tomorrow morning.
at July 3, 2008 6:58 PM
Just think about the damage Peanut Carter caused so many years ago: he enabled the Islamic 'revolution' which is now (again) the scourge of the world.
Obama will destroy the US as we know it.
Posted by: sheik yer'mami
Carter was strike one.
Bill Clinton made it okay to attack when he decided that all terrorist attacks were to be handled in criminal court rather than be treated as acts of war.
This policy made it possible for al Qaeda to learn just what would be needed to bring down the towers and for Osama and company to know our surveillance capabilities. They took corrective action.
Clinton was strike two.
BHO might be strike three.
Democrats will be three for three.
Posted by: PMK at July 3, 2008 7:06 PM
Laughs_at_Silly_Jihadis -
Don't YOU lie about Obama. His lips are NOT purple they are blue.
Posted by: poetcomic1 at July 3, 2008 7:22 PM
There are a few things that I noted that were stated in this article that are based upon ignorance or PC or taqiyya.
Mr. Obama is another victim of Islamophobia. He is now facing what Muslims have been and still are struggling with: an irrational fear and hatred of Muslims.Neither Obama or Muslims are facing this. Obama is a politian, he is counting votes. Muslims are misdirecting and practicing tapiyya.
. . .Islamophobia has taken root in the U.S. . . .The only thing that has taken root is the American public is aware of something rotten in Denmark.
. . Mr. Obama is a Christian, . .This is debatable, IMHO he is not a Christian, but I have not talked to him personally to ask him some specific questions. Based upon what I have heard him say and what has been reported. He is very ignorant in Christian doctrine and the Bible.
If Mr. Obama simply said, "Yes, there are Muslims in my family, and while I am and always have been a Christian, . .This statement illustrates this writer does not know what or how a person becomes a follower of Christ. Unlike Islam you are not born into it. You at some point in time must make a consciouses decision to accept Jesus as your Lord and savior.
This piece is blame shifting much as we hear some say about 'more attacks' will happen if we do this or that on the WOT (Islam). The writer is projecting what is in her/his mind not what is reality. Finally because Obama is so vague on most any issue, this article really is propaganda put up by those that would mean Sheria in our country.
Posted by: Im.mad.as.HELL! at July 3, 2008 8:19 PM
Here is a poll showing the figure of 40% of Americans who mistrust Muslims:
http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2006/8/10/165733.shtml?s=ic
The journalistic smoke screen for Islam is entrenched. The sniveling cowards have already turned in their free speech vespers and stand shivering naked in the corner under their Freedom of Press banner. Thankfully, daily, Americans are unsubscribing to these propaganda brochures of faux news.
Posted by: Briars at July 3, 2008 8:56 PM
Interesting reading the many posts here which reflect deep suspicion of Obama. And appropriately so. He is a machine politician from Cook County who poses as a selfless idealist. He is a Far Left kind of guy. He is a metrosexual with a bitter wife who conveys the distinct impression that she wears the pants in the family and could beat up her husband on a whim. He is someone who belonged to a racist, anti-American, self-pitying church for some two decades and only left it when this church was exposed for the many idiocies it embraced. He is so clueless where international affairs are concerned that he makes Neville Chamberlain look like a man with tremendous backbone. He wants more government across the board, has never bucked a single union and has a knee-jerk reaction against private enterprise which is deeply disturbing.
And then there is the Muslim connection, which he thinks he and his supporters can be used to his advantage unless it proves disadvantageous, whereupon he or his proxies will namecall any skeptic or critic as a bigoted, hateful human being. And he has a great shot at being the next President of the United States. Disturbing to be sure. We've come a long way from the likes of Harry Truman, Dwight David Eisenhower and Ronald Reagan and the collective Left is so monumentally foolish as to think this is a good thing. Thus they support with entusiasm the ultimate empty suit in American political history. Not good.
Posted by: Wellington at July 3, 2008 9:12 PM
Interesting reading the many posts here which reflect deep suspicion of Obama. And appropriately so. He is a machine politician from Cook County who poses as a selfless idealist. He is a Far Left kind of guy. He is a metrosexual with a bitter wife who conveys the distinct impression that she wears the pants in the family and could beat up her husband on a whim. He is someone who belonged to a racist, anti-American, self-pitying church for some two decades and only left it when this church was exposed for the many idiocies it embraced. He is so clueless where international affairs are concerned that he makes Neville Chamberlain look like a man with tremendous backbone. He wants more government across the board, has never bucked a single union and has a knee-jerk reaction against private enterprise which is deeply disturbing.
And then there is the Muslim connection, which he thinks he and his supporters can be used to his advantage unless it proves disadvantageous, whereupon he or his proxies will namecall any skeptic or critic as a bigoted, hateful human being. And he has a great shot at being the next President of the United States. Disturbing to be sure. We've come a long way from the likes of Harry Truman, Dwight David Eisenhower and Ronald Reagan and the collective Left is so monumentally foolish as to think this is a good thing. Thus they support with enthusiasm the ultimate empty suit in American political history. Not good.
Posted by: Wellington at July 3, 2008 9:12 PM
Interesting reading the many posts here which reflect deep suspicion of Obama. And appropriately so. He is a machine politician from Cook County who poses as a selfless idealist. He is a Far Left kind of guy. He is a metrosexual with a bitter wife who conveys the distinct impression that she wears the pants in the family and could beat up her husband on a whim. He is someone who belonged to a racist, anti-American, self-pitying church for some two decades and only left it when this church was exposed for the many idiocies it embraced. He is so clueless where international affairs are concerned that he makes Neville Chamberlain look like a man with tremendous backbone. He wants more government across the board, has never bucked a single union and has a knee-jerk reaction against private enterprise which is deeply disturbing.
And then there is the Muslim connection, which he thinks he and his supporters can be used to his advantage unless it proves disadvantageous, whereupon he or his proxies will namecall any skeptic or critic as a bigoted, hateful human being. And he has a great shot at being the next President of the United States. Disturbing to be sure. We've come a long way from the likes of Harry Truman, Dwight David Eisenhower and Ronald Reagan and the collective Left is so monumentally foolish as to think this is a good thing. Thus they support with enthusiasm the ultimate empty suit in American political history. Not good.
Posted by: Wellington at July 3, 2008 9:13 PM
Sorry for the multiple posts. Hey, Clinton happens.
Posted by: Wellington at July 3, 2008 9:15 PM
Robert: I have a feeling that the Obama campaign people were horrified when they saw this piece by Junaid M. Afeef. I believe it unlikely there will be any response by Obama or his handlers, as they would not want to draw any attention to the issues raised. Kudos to the WSJ for this one.
Posted by: dubrovnov at July 3, 2008 10:05 PM
Wellington,
Excellent post above. I agree wholeheartedly.
at July 3, 2008 11:36 PM
Here is the letter which I wrote to the WSJ in response to the article. Of course, the WSJ, -- so politically correct when it comes to Islam -- will not print it:
To the editor of the Wall Street Journal:
Contrary to what Junaid Afeeef writes, (Obama Should Embrace His Muslim Heritage 7/3) the anti-Muslim sentiments in the United States are NOT irrational or based on lack of understanding. The fear of Muslims and Islam is perfectly rational; and daily events around the Muslim world confirm it. The author's use of the term "Islamophobia" to disparage those who hold negative sentiments about Islam is only an intellectually dishonest form of name-calling. The Koran says that all non-Moslems are the vilest of beasts, the lowest of animals and inveterate enemies. The Koran also calls for making war on non-Moslems until Islam is supreme in the world. As long as Muslims claim that those words -- and many others -- are the literal word of Allah and, therefore, must be believed and followed, the negative view of Muslims is perfectly justified. This has nothing to do with racism or bigotry. It has everything to do with opposing the ideology of Islamic imperialism.
Carl Goldberg, PhD
at July 4, 2008 2:10 AM
My hope is that after Obama is elected president that he will overcompensate for his perceived Muslim sympathies by being rigorous about security issues. That's what's called making lemonade out of lemons.
Posted by: jewdog at July 4, 2008 6:40 AM
Dr. Goldberg,
Kudos for an excellent response to Junaid Afeeef.
The WSJ is averse to opposition. Even their old forum, Opinion Journal, was very selective in what it posted from readers.
Upon logging on this morning I checked their forum and found there were still no posts. I therefore wrote a letter to the editor saying that the forums are useless if they don't allow for differing opinions and that it was hard to believe that there had been absolutely no feedback on this article, given that I knew of at least two. You're number three. I'll accept that mine might not have been worthy of publication but yours most definitely is. Kudos to you.
at July 4, 2008 8:21 AM
If Mr. Obama simply said, "Yes, there are Muslims in my family, and while I am and always have been a Christian, I embrace my family's religious diversity," then surely the vast majority of Americans would move on to the real issues in his campaign.
That would not do it for me! The most dangerous thing about Obama is his misguided belief that one can be Muslim and walk away from it. Tell that to the thousands of Muslims who live under Sharia law every day.
at July 4, 2008 8:42 AM
darcy,
WSJ always posts comments selectively. You post and you have to wait for them to put the comments on the site. There are always exceptions but you can count on 90% of their posts to be in agreement with the editor/columnist. They've often gone till 8 or 9 p.m before posting. Best to check it tomorrow morning.
Posted by: PMK at July 3, 2008 6:58 PM
OK, PMK. It's now tomorrow morning, the article IS on the Forum, and there are still 0 comments!
0! The WSJ brings new definition to the word "selective" - they don't publish ANY comments! Gee, I wonder why that is...could it be because anti-Hussein and anti-Islam comments ruled the day? How ironic that it's July 4 in the Land of Freedom and Free Speech and the WSJ is kowtowing to the Mohammedans and Islam. Huge, enormous, volcanic, irony.
Posted by: darcy at July 4, 2008 8:55 AM
PLCinTEXAS,
Obama's line is that he was never raised as a Muslim. His father was supposedly secular. We point to his years in the Indonesian madrassah but he could turn around and point to the many non-Catholics in the inner cities who are allowed to attend Catholic schools.
Our media is remiss when it fails to investigate Islam and what it means to OTHER MUSLIMS that Obama was born of a Muslim father and yet insists that he is a Christian.
Instead they dismiss as bigotry any and all claims that Obama is really a Muslim. They think people are saying that Obama's church membership is just a front and that he secretly worships Allah. That allows them to dismiss any all all claims that might impair their chosen one's ability to win in November. They are unable to distinguish between the culture and the religion. They think Friday prayers and abstaining from pork or alcohol are all there is to Islam. They will continue on that path until Dearborn, MI becomes Washington, DC.
at July 4, 2008 9:05 AM
darcy,
I know. I've already written a letter to the editor. Have you seen Dr. Goldberg's post? He shared with us what he wrote to WSJ.
at July 4, 2008 9:07 AM
Well, I made this comment, which of course won't see (online) print. So, why bother, since the spineless invertebrates at the WSJ have decided to publish no comments to the article? Because someone will read it. Who knows, maybe it'll stick in their mush-for-brains. I imagine they must be shocked at the amount of anti-Mohammedan/Islam sentiment that has poured in due to this article. Completely justified sentiments.
"How ironic that it's July 4 in the Land of Freedom and Free Speech, and yet the PC WSJ is not publishing any comments that are anti-Mohammedan and anti-Islam. Islamophobia is perfectly rational, just as Naziphobia is, Islam and Naziism being twin political ideologies of hate, war, violence against everyone not like them, intolerance, mass-murder, murder, death and destruction. Wake up and smell the sulphurous stench of the Unholy Koran, you WSJ slaves to Allah, the pre-Islamic pagan moon deity that doesn't exist. Of course no one at the WSJ has even bothered to read the Koran. What a bunch of chuckleheads. And you think you're intellectual! What a laugh!"
Great that you two wrote the Editor, Dr. Goldberg and PMK.
Posted by: darcy at July 4, 2008 9:14 AM
"Upon logging on this morning I checked their forum and found there were still no posts. I therefore wrote a letter to the editor saying that the forums are useless if they don't allow for differing opinions..."
PMK: Well done! Very well done!
I posted a comment, as well, but after reading Dr. Goldberg's eloquent commentary, I won't re-post it, here.
Darcy, like you, I'll be checking in from time to time to see whose posts show up, and whose don't. This is turning into an interesting little experiment, isn't it?
Posted by: Abscedere at July 4, 2008 10:15 AM
Don't expect any fairness or even common sense from the WSJ. These are the folks who are on a tireless campaign to abolish America's borders and sovereignty just so their buddies in the Chamber of Commerce can make a few additional bucks from low wage labor. They exemplify Lenin's old adage - they'd sell the rope with which they would be hung.
Posted by: RBLA at July 4, 2008 10:17 AM
Darcy, like you, I'll be checking in from time to time to see whose posts show up, and whose don't. This is turning into an interesting little experiment, isn't it?
Posted by: Abscedere at July 4, 2008 10:15 AM
Yes. I didn't know the WSJ was so dhimmified. Wow. Even more than the NYT.
Posted by: darcy at July 4, 2008 10:21 AM
On this July 4th, a significant day for Americans, let me say this...'Please Allah, stop blessing America'!!!
at July 4, 2008 11:01 AM
Yes. I didn't know the WSJ was so dhimmified. Wow. Even more than the NYT.
Posted by: darcy
Partial credit must be given to Rupert Murdoch, who now owns the WSJ. Fox News has become more dhimmified and it is infecting WSJ. They weren't always like this. You'd think their own experiences on 9/11 would have made an impact but I guess time heals all wounds.
Posted by: PMK at July 4, 2008 11:22 AM
People - STILL 0 comments on the article!
Yeah, right! Good God, those Orwellian Censorers' at the WSJ!
And it's the 4th of July! A day to celebrate Freedom of Speech! It is just truly unbelievable...
Posted by: darcy at July 4, 2008 5:51 PM
darcy,
But there were over a dozen comments on "Why we went to war in Iraq". Many of them were posted overnight, last night.
I was about to give WSJ a break, thinking maybe they took off for the holiday but Iraq shows their forums are up and running.
at July 4, 2008 6:08 PM
I believe it's fair to say the "Islamophobia" literally means "the irrational fear of Islam". The terms has an embedded oxymoron since it is NOT IRRATIONAL to fear a religion which threatens your freedom, your liberty and your life. Those who have this phobia are actually quite rational and concerned about their well-being.
Hence the term "Islamophobia" is utterly meaningless and useless. It is not irrational to fear a lion or grizzly bear who can maul you to pieces, nor a zealot who will explode themselves in your presence. People who fear what Islam might do are not bigots or racists for if they were they would resort to the methods of the Nazis and KKK to eliminate the threat - methods not unlike those used by Islam over hundreds of years to do precisely the same.
Posted by: Nosharia at July 4, 2008 9:35 PM
I have read many of the comments here and am truely relieved and grateful to find that others see the threat Islam posses to us as I do.
Final comment about Obama: There can be little doubt that Muslims are very aware that he was born into Islam. To them this means that he was BORN A BELIEVER. It means he became an INFIDEL later in life. How will they view this transformation? Was it apostacy or serendipity?
Does his unwillingness to acknowledge his origins represent betrayal or political expediency? Are there already plots and conspiracies brewing which might put his life at risk, either before or after being elected the President of the United States?
It is he who needs to be "Islamophobic" for he has a greatest potential for incurring the wrath of Allah than most of us. As he tries to move to the "center" of American politics he may be ignoring the threat that is approaching on his left or right flank, depending on one's point of view. He does not realize the danger because, like most Americans, he does not understand the real enemy.
Posted by: Nosharia at July 4, 2008 10:38 PM
This is o/t, but rumors say there is no evidence that Obama was even born in the US, HI that is. the birth certificate is a fake. wonder how long it will take to prove it false?
Posted by: ZenaWarriorPrincess at July 4, 2008 11:07 PM
I was amazed to see that the comment I read a few days ago in opinionjournal.com was not there any more. What is going on? Is this the USSR or the US? I spent a number of years in both and I thought I could tell the difference. Here is my comment which never made it in the first place:
Fear of jihad is not a phobia
According to Webster’s dictionary a phobia is: “an exaggerated usually inexplicable and illogical fear of a particular object, class of objects, or situation.”
The fear of jihad is neither exaggerated nor inexplicable, nor illogical. Since 9/11 there have been 11372 terror attacks perpetrated by jihadists, many quoting Islamic holy texts as their motive. Since Lesser Jihad is a tenet of Islam and there have been no Islamic scholars countering jihadists’ claims with quotations of their own, the very term Islamophobia is disingenuous. Fear of jihadist terror is a logical reaction to the atrocities committed by Muslims in the name of Islam, not Buddhism or Jainism. Until Muslim scholars explicitly counter jihadists’ claims of link to Islam with quotations of their own, the link will be there, as defined by the jihadists. Wednesday’s atrocity in Jerusalem was apparently another case of Sudden Jihad Syndrome, a term coined by Daniel Pipes and explained here: http://www.danielpipes.org/article/3450
Posted by: Mladen at July 5, 2008 5:11 AM
"I was amazed to see that the comment I read a few days ago in opinionjournal.com was not there any more. What is going on? Is this the USSR or the US?" --Mladen
You got censored, and the horror is that you're completely, 100%, correct in what you said.
There are still no comments to the article.
To answer your question, 4th of July festivities notwithstanding, I suppose this is the USSR.
Posted by: darcy at July 5, 2008 8:45 AM
To darcy: Well, I must say that we in Israel, after having gone since year 2000 through 148 exploded Palestinian suicide bombers, and 6000 Kassams launched from the Gaza on Sderot, Ashkelon and other nearby kibbutzim AFTER all the Israelis had left the Gaza Strip two years ago, have lately been more open about saying the obvious.
Here is an example of the articles (see RELATED ones as well) that appeared in the PRINTED edition of the Jerusalem Post two weeks ago:
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1213794275742&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull
at July 5, 2008 12:55 PM
People - the WSJ has now published 12 comments!
Check 'em out:
http://forums.wsj.com/viewtopic.php?t=3170&sid=542571828ae44346e27ff1a7316f6096
at July 5, 2008 5:07 PM
darcy, you're not going to see any responses to that article in thew WSJ.
Happy belated Fourth of July!!
I spent the evening watching the fireworks on board of a capitalist tool ship feat. a cash bar. LOL
Only moslems get free stuff.
Ps. Want to get really depressed or mad?
watch this:
http://www.iamanenglishman.com/rogues_gallery.php
Posted by: Ummah Gummah at July 5, 2008 6:30 PM
Ummah - there certainly are some responses!
Here's a little gold nugget from Cindy Buxton:
"After 9/11, surely you can't think it's a "phobia" to
fear Islam? Do you know what Islam teaches? Have you ever
so much as cracked open a copy of the Qur'an?
Let me boil it down for you. According to Mohammed,
Infidels (everyone who are not Muslims) are to be converted,
subjugated and taxed (if they are "people of the book", i.e.
Christians or Jews, if they wish to remain Christians and Jews)
or killed. For all others, pagans, atheists, Hindus, Buddhists, etc.
there are only two choices: Convert or Die. Such is the essence of
the so-called Religion of Peace."
Go Cindy!
at July 5, 2008 11:16 PM
Phew! Not the USSR, after all.
Posted by: Mladen at July 6, 2008 1:07 AM
I have not seen a better dissection and refutation of "Islamophobia" than the one presented here:
http://www.faithfreedom.org/oped/sina60526.htm
Posted by: Nosharia at July 6, 2008 1:39 AM
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