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As one might expect, the FBI proposes a common-sense procedure -- spend more time looking for terror activity among Muslims than among Methodist grandmothers -- and CAIR, an unindicted co-conspirator in a terror funding case, cries foul.
"FBI eyes profiling in terrorist inquiries: Race could be weighed to justify investigations," by Lara Jakes Jordan for Associated Press, July 3 (thanks to all who sent this in):
WASHINGTON — The Justice Department is considering letting the FBI investigate Americans without any evidence of wrongdoing, relying instead on a terrorist profile that could single out Muslims, Arabs or other racial and ethnic groups.Law enforcement officials say the proposed policy would help them do what Congress demanded after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks: root out terrorists before they strike.
Although President Bush has disavowed targeting suspects based on their race or ethnicity, the new rules would allow the FBI to consider those factors among a number of traits that could trigger a national security investigation. [...]
"We don't know what we don't know. And the object is to cut down on that," said one FBI official who defended the plans. [...]
The changes would allow FBI agents to ask open-ended questions about activities of Muslim- or Arab-Americans, or investigate them if their jobs and backgrounds match trends that analysts deem suspect.
FBI agents would not be allowed to eavesdrop on phone calls or dig deeply into personal data until a full investigation was opened. [...]
Justice spokesman Brian Roehrkasse said the guidelines governing when to open a national security investigation are part of a "harmonizing" process that will not give the FBI any more authority than it already has. He declined further comment, but he and two other senior Justice officials would not deny the changes as they were described to AP by others familiar with the guidelines.
"Any review and change to the guidelines will reflect our traditional concerns for civil liberties and First Amendment liberties and our traditional investigative emphasis on using the least intrusive means feasible," Roehrkasse said Wednesday....
"FBI terrorism profiling proposal 'un-American': Muslim rights group," by Mike Rosen-Molina in Jurist, July 3 (thanks to Writer Mom):
The Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) Thursday blasted a proposed plan that would allow Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) agents to consider a person's race, religion, or ethnicity in deciding whether to open a terrorism investigation. CAIR decried the plan as "unconstitutional and un-American," saying that it could allow security agents to target Muslims and Arab-Americans for harassment....
True to its pattern, CAIR demonstrates no concern whatsoever for protecting Americans from terror attacks.
Posted by Robert at July 4, 2008 10:08 AM
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Yes this is a very wise idea keep a watchful eye. It is sad but this is the nature of Islam. It is pernicious like a virus that will attack at any moment. It is deceit to the highest level and do not be fooled by the ploys of fake friendship etc with the west. Once reaching a certain population and you will begin to see more barbaric acts and demands for the sickening sharia laws. Well lets say more Islamic Jihadi violence than we are now used to.
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at July 4, 2008 10:31 AM
They will ultimatly reject this policy after carful consideration.
Posted by: Mr.Fitnah at July 4, 2008 10:59 AM
CAIR's Jihad against America, is "un-American".
CAIR's support for terror (Sami Al-Arian), is "un-American".
CAIR's goal (American Khilafat), is "un-American".
CAIR is "un-American".
Happy 4th July!
Posted by: Alert at July 4, 2008 11:02 AM
If the shoe fits....
Posted by: PMK at July 4, 2008 11:41 AM
Recommended summer reading for CAIR officers: "In Defense of Internment -- The Case for Racial Profiling in World War II and the War on Terror" by Michelle Malkin (2004).
They might also brush up on the Alien Enemies Act of 1798 which is still on the books. It says that whenever there shall be a declared war between the United States and any foreign nation or government, or any invasion or predatory incursion shall be perpetrated, attempted, or threatened against the territory of the United States, by any foreign nation of government, all males aged fourteen and older who are not naturalized are liable to be apprehended, restrained, secured and removed, as alien enemies.
In World War II, not only did the United States apply this act to Germans and Japanese, but also the Shinto religion was suppressed in Japan after Japan's surrender. There's nothing "un-American" about identifying our enemies and shutting them down.
Posted by: Chris at July 4, 2008 11:49 AM
Slowly, and most reluctantly, the security services of the entire Western world have begun to realize that there is "something about Islam" that no amount of apologetics, of the well-financed and smoothly-running machine of Taqiyya and Tu-Quoque can continue forever to hide, or disguise, or make the most preposterous and convoluted defenses, of observable Muslim behavior, and of Muslim attitudes, and finally -- we are now getting to the very heart of the matter -- what the ideology of Islam, behind the Five Pillars of Ritual Worship (Shehada, zakat, salat, hajj, ramadan), is all about.
Even those who have been so unwilling to consider what Islam is all about, unwilling to look at 1350 years of history, through time, and from Spain to East Asia, in space, have had to start looking into what is contained in the Qu'ran, and what Qur'anic commentators have had to say about it, and to find out, as well, what the Hadith (that is, the sayings and acts of Muhammad, recorded and arranged, with degrees of authenticity of each Hadith assigned by various muhaddithin, of whom the most authoritative, for Muslims, are al-Bukhari and Muslim) contains.
And they have also had to start thinking about the Perfect Man and Model for All Time (uswa hasana, al-insan al-kamil), Muhammad, and what that figure, what his works and days, his sayings and his acts, mean for Muslims today, and what the implications for non-Muslims, however grim, however unpleasant to dare to fully grasp, must be.
This has happened with the greatest reluctance. And the army of sly -- or simply stupid -- apologists, keeps at its self-appointed or, in the case of some non-Muslims, bought-and-paid-for task, but too many Infidels, having discovered how easy it is -- an Internet click away, and you can have laid out synoptically before you four or five English translations of the Qur'an, as well as a topic- or word-searchable collections of the Hadith, and of course the Life of Muhammad, with the Banu Qurayza decaptiations, the attack on the farmers of the Khaybar Oasis, the murders of Abu Akaf and Asma bint Marwan, and little Aisha, and so much more, can be found at the webistes of Muslims or of ex-Muslims, with the former applauding, and the latter deploring, the very same acts, because the morality of those who hare delighted to remain "slaves of Allah" and follow Islam, and morality of those who may have been born into, but have decided to jettison Islam, are quite different.
In the nineteenth century devout Christians established the Society for the Diffusion of Christian Knowledge, or SDCK. You may have seen their publications; I have a few myself. Now, in order to rescue not only Christians, but also Jews, Hindus, Buddhists, and of course freethinkers of very kind of stripe and degrees of doubt, the Society for the Diffusion of Knowledge of Islam -- not what Muslims and fearful or traitorous or simply stupid non-Muslim apologists want you to know, but the real, not the bowdlerized, sellsized, version of the Qur'an or, just as bad, the deliberate overlooking of the Hadith and the Sira, which means removing the "Sunnah" from our Infidel consciousnesses, and reducing in Infidel minds that telling phrase that gives the two sources of authority -- "Qur'an and Sunnah" -- to the Qur'an alone which, as I have said, is always given by apologists in a highly-censored form, for they don't want you to read 9.5 or 9.29 or indeed Sura 9, or large parts -- hundreds and hundreds of parts -- of the Qur'an, for fear of what you just might begin to comprehend about Islam.
Even the FBI can begin to figure this out. As can the CIA, and police forces all over this country, and MI5 and MI6, and the Deuxieme Bureau, or whatever it is called, and all the other security services in the Western -- no, let's not forget India, or Thailand, or other non-Western targets of Islam -- the entire non-Muslim world.
Posted by: Hugh at July 4, 2008 11:49 AM
Well, duh!
Posted by: eve_anne_gelical at July 4, 2008 11:58 AM
Profiling muslims, while certainly not un-American, is probably unconstitutional.
Our government institutions are simply ill-equipped at this time to adequately fight the enemy. We lack the essential legal tools to prevent the jihad, in all its forms. Robert is correct in the above post where he lists the rights we already have that require protection by our eternal vigilance, but, exercising those rights may not provide enough protection against the jihad. In addition to the rights listed we must remember that the Constitutional right to Freedom of Religion is one that shields the enemy within. This country is going to have to admit some day soon that our very Constitution must be amended in a way that recognizes Islam as primarily a political ideology, not a religious ideology, and removes Islam from the protection of the second amendment.
Posted by: USorThem at July 4, 2008 12:03 PM
"second amendment..."
-- from a posting above
The Fifth. Give or Take -- it's the Fifth.
Posted by: Hugh at July 4, 2008 12:10 PM
Amendment confusion.
Freedom of religion as set forth in the First amendment, not second.
Posted by: USorThem at July 4, 2008 12:17 PM
Yep, it's that old devil moon again,
http://www.muhammadtube.com/watch/a441b88f22a6c2a830a1/Old-Devil-Moon
Posted by: Joe Schmoe USA at July 4, 2008 1:02 PM
That's almost funny that muslims are going to decide what is un-American and what is not. How about you people packing up, and taking the first camel caravan out of here...
Posted by: duh_swami at July 4, 2008 1:17 PM
Excellent post above, Hugh, about Western security services finally beginning to get it-----at least let's hope so. And your reference to Mohammed as the Model Man or Perfect Model or whatever made me think, this July 4th, of the Founding Fathers, everyone of whom was a superior human being to Mohammed.
Just thinking about someone like Benjamin Franklin, George Washington, Thomas Jefferson or Alexander Hamilton at the same time one reflects upon the life of Mohammed can only result in nothing but total admiration for each one of these Founding Fathers and complete revulsion for that malevolently influential seventh-century Arab merchant. Just taking the first of those great Americans I mentioned above, how could one not conclude that Ben Franklin was an infinitely finer person than was Mohammed? How indeed.
Posted by: Wellington at July 4, 2008 1:18 PM
Even our founding fathers had problems with them. Check this out.
http://memory.loc.gov/ammem/collections/jefferson_papers/mtjprece.html
Posted by: Nobama at July 4, 2008 1:27 PM
The Muslims know the word about them is getting out, it is one of the reasons they are desparately pressing to make freedom of speech illegal, and to make it illegal to connect Islamic inspired violence to Islam.
The truth about Islam is a great weapon...It is one of the reasons I come here for ..to get more bullets...
Posted by: pulsar182 at July 4, 2008 1:41 PM
Isn't CAIR un-American?
Posted by: PorkFatRules at July 4, 2008 2:26 PM
This country is going to have to admit some day soon that our very Constitution must be amended in a way that recognizes Islam as primarily a political ideology, not a religious ideology, and removes Islam from the protection of the second amendment.
Posted by: USorThem at July 4, 2008 12:03 PM
... just as, inspite of smoke-screens, cover-ups and inherent deception of Islam, non-muslims have now discovered that Islam is a political-ideology, stealthily advancing under the cover of a "religion", which most non-muslims hold to a high-esteem and regard. Islam defies and abuses the very spirit of a "religion".
at July 4, 2008 2:27 PM
As the great Abrahm Lincoln once said,"You can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time."
It's just a matter of time.
Posted by: PorkFatRules at July 4, 2008 2:43 PM
Islam and its peoples must be above the infidels, and never permit non-Muslims to acquire lordship over them
sounds like something that cair\muslims would dream up and as for profiling could it be that the people on the bod of cair are afraid they might get caught
at July 4, 2008 3:17 PM
From The Fjordman Files comes an unusual prespective of Islam and Muslims. Fjordman finds some humorous facets of their insanity.
"...
Iranian Islamic leader the Ayatollah Khomeini once said that “There is no fun in Islam.” I disagree. Islam can be quite funny; it just isn’t intended to be so. I have long said that Islam’s weakest point is mockery. Any enemy will reveal what he fears the most, if you listen to him closely. Muslims fear criticism or mockery of their religion more than they fear death. Well, if mockery is what they fear above all else, maybe that’s exactly what we should give them? ..."
at July 4, 2008 4:10 PM
The sheer effrontery of some foreigners (Muslims) coming over here and telling me what is Un-American. CAIR is mostly foreign born Muslims or at best the offspring of foreign born Muslims. They are rootless, have no history here, and their allegiance is to the ummah not America. This is a nation of convenience for them over at CAIR
Posted by: dennisw at July 4, 2008 4:15 PM
getrealnow4: Thanks for the link. The Funny Side of Islam is worth the visit. As for mockery of Islam I am in complete accord. The most important thing to do with evil is to crush it, but the next most important thing is to make fun of it. Nothing can stand up to ridicule if it is intrinsically worthless or rotten to begin with, as is Islam.
Posted by: Wellington at July 4, 2008 6:21 PM
Yes dennisw,
we have our own Musulmanic infil-traitors here downunder, namely Keysar Trad and his co-religionist Yusuf Irfan, who are both experts on what's Australian and what's not.
Quite comical.
Unfortunately, we don't ridicule them enough...
Posted by: sheik yer'mami at July 4, 2008 9:12 PM
"...I have long said that Islam’s weakest point is mockery...."
Posted by: getrealnow4
Here's an idea. Maybe J'Watchers could persuade Robert to include a "Humor" sidebar on JW with web links to jokes, cartoons and satire about Islam and Mohammad.
"Did you hear the one about the priest, the rabbi and the mullah who went into a bar?..."
Posted by: Eastview at July 5, 2008 4:49 AM
This story is good news. It sounds like JW and similar sites are starting to have an effect. Even the thickest skulls among our politicians, and dare we hope, even some among the Left, can't continue forever to deny the Islamic threat staring us all in the face.
In the sequence "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win" we're still somewhere toward the latter stages of step two. There's still much to do, as the ranks of the Islamic foe are still forming, much less breaking. The biggest battles are yet to come, but if we don't falter and continue to apply the heat sooner or later they will. Appropriating Davegreybeard's most excellent exhortation, which Pope Urban II used to launch the Crusades in 1095, DEUS VULT!
Posted by: Eastview at July 5, 2008 5:17 AM
I am so glad we are all advancing our thoughts about what is religion and what is ideology. I understand that all religion worship life, love your neighbor as you love yourself. I understand to that ideology, among others, has greater acknowledgment of death, if not death an acknowledgment, like in death to my neighbor because my neighbor does not subscribe to what I like. Behavior should quickly tell us what is religion and what is ideology - especially religion that practices the tenets of ideology more than the guidelines of religion.
Our Constitution will have the last word in making a final decision on what is religion and what is ideology - for behavior too is a human characteristic that it has its eye on and in due time will make a definitive positive pronouncement
to curtail the momentary tragic interruption from our enjoyment of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
at July 5, 2008 6:14 AM
I might like to point out that while it might be valid to call racism against singling out people who look a bit swarthy, an individual's dress and grooming are characteristics of their conscious behavior.
Posted by: George guy at July 6, 2008 9:42 PM
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