Atrocity.

Beast.

Filth.

Posted by: jsla at July 10, 2008 10:58 AM

That did it!

I'm starting my own religion. Getting persecuted in my own country. Seeking asylum in Britian. Getting my own 1.6 million dollar crib.

I could even grow my beard long

Posted by: tanstaafl at July 10, 2008 11:06 AM

The UK's future resident at No. 10 Downing.

Get used to it.

Posted by: witness at July 10, 2008 11:13 AM

I find it disgusting to see this lowlife getting treated better than most of the law abiding citizens that live, and have lived, in this country all their lives for generations. its times like these that make me ashamed of my country and ashamed to be British :(

Something drastic has to happen over here as the "law" is an arse and tends to favor the guilty every time.

In contrast I live in a simple 2 bedroom flat with barely enough money left over to pay the bills let alone anything like the £800.000 home this Abu Quatada has been given on a silver plate, at the expense of fellow taxpayers.

I say send him back to Jordan and to hell with him, i couldn't care less if he gets tortured or not. zero sympathy for his kind and i find it offensive that this scum breathes the same air as me.

= A very annoyed Sm0kA =

Posted by: Sm0kA at July 10, 2008 11:17 AM

He is not half the danger that the judges and politicians who release him are.
http://www.bravenewsworld.blogspot.com

Posted by: Max Publius at July 10, 2008 11:19 AM

the courts ordered that he could not be sent home to Jordan because his human rights would have been breached

From the 'stuff you can't make up' dept.

Posted by: Infidel Pride at July 10, 2008 11:23 AM

There was a time when some third rate dictatorship would seize a British ship on the other side of the world and the whole country's pride would be offended and there'd be calls for war. Now monsters murder Brits in their own streets and live off them like kings and openly preach the destruction of their neighbors. Britain, you have richly earned those smirks they give you.

Posted by: poetcomic1 at July 10, 2008 11:25 AM

Let's see. Jordan, a Muslim country, wants this Muslim guy for committing major felonies. Britain, a kuffaar nation, thinks that's way too harsh and will let him stay in Britain in his posh surroundings. Pure theatre of the absurd. How much longer is the ordinary Brit going to put up with this nonsense?

Posted by: Wellington at July 10, 2008 11:38 AM

"Something drastic has to happen over here as the "law" is an arse and tends to favor the guilty every time." --Smoka

As so said your distinguished countryman, Charles Dickens, in "Oliver Twist." But, you knew that.

AUTHOR: Charles Dickens (1812–70)

QUOTATION: “If the law supposes that,” said Mr. Bumble, “the law is a ass—a idiot."

I wonder what Dickens would think about the far-fetched, fantastical notion that Musselmen are taking over his country?

Except that it's not far-fetched and fantastical. It's actually happening.

Posted by: darcy at July 10, 2008 11:40 AM

Britain, you have richly earned those smirks they give you.

Posted by: poetcomic1 at July 10, 2008 11:25 AM

It's true. Who would have thought that such a horror would happen to "Rule Brittania?" Now it's "Fool Brittania."

Posted by: darcy at July 10, 2008 11:42 AM

Psychology 101: Behavior that gets rewarded, gets repeated.

Posted by: MarisolJW at July 10, 2008 11:45 AM

I got a better picture:

http://sheikyermami.com/2008/07/09/did-the-prophet-use-toilet-paper-also/

Posted by: sheik yer'mami at July 10, 2008 12:04 PM

Yes the Jizya keeps rolling. The Dhimmis love being Dhimmis. Well it is nice to be paid for threats to the UK and US. The more anti western rhetoric the more money flows our way is what the Muslims like to see.

Posted by: savsiv at July 10, 2008 12:20 PM

Oh yeah, shiek - If you click on the Daily Mail link, there's a photo with the toilet paper!

It's so ironic. Here's this Barbarian walking down the street carrying a multi-roll pack of Charmin! The Barbs certainly do love those civilized perks - while railing against the West at the same time. Such total hypocrites. How come he's not following Mo's rules about which hand to use?!

Posted by: darcy at July 10, 2008 12:35 PM

He loves the flopsweat groveling of dhimmis in the morning.

It smells like... victory.

No one in the UK knows any karate?

(Search: Jim Koethe, Dallas reporter, JFK.)

Posted by: profitsbeard at July 10, 2008 12:35 PM

Heave....

Posted by: gymgal at July 10, 2008 1:00 PM

Darcy wrote:

It's true. Who would have thought that such a horror would happen to "Rule Brittania?" Now it's "Fool Brittania."
..............................

Ah, Darcy. You beat me to it--great minds think alike. You sometimes hear "Cool Brittania" as a play on words, but, like you, I thought "Fool Brittania" would be sadly much more appropriate.

Posted by: gravenimage at July 10, 2008 1:08 PM

Darcy wrote:

It's true. Who would have thought that such a horror would happen to "Rule Brittania?" Now it's "Fool Brittania."
..............................

Ah, Darcy. You beat me to it--great minds think alike. You sometimes hear "Cool Brittania" as a play on words, but, like you, I thought "Fool Brittania" would be sadly much more appropriate.

Posted by: gravenimage at July 10, 2008 1:08 PM

LOL, gravenimage. Oh no, Brittania isn't "cool" anymore - it's sad and pathetic and deteriorated. Once swingin' London is every day, more and more, Barbarian Land. "Brittania rules the waves?" Brittania rules nothing, including it's own self.

Yes, Fool Brittania. See ya, gravenimage.

Posted by: darcy at July 10, 2008 1:55 PM

Darcy-

You know, Darcy..... If it ever comes to a scrap and we need Americans and other nations to pitch in again...... Feel free to stay at home.

There's better than you who'll fight at our sides. We don't need gloating shite like you at our backs.

Posted by: Wishbone at July 10, 2008 2:29 PM

He also receives $300 a week in disability benefits because he says he has a bad back! Yet in these photos he is carrying a huge pack of diet Pepsi and is wearing a backpack and seems to be in no pain whatsoever.

He is laughing at you Britain! He is teaching all those kids to slit your kids throats in the streets when they are grown, and you are getting the pleasure of paying for them to live in luxury!

I can't believe the Brits are not protesting in the streets in outrage!

Posted by: TS at July 10, 2008 2:35 PM

"his human rights would have been breached"

And whose rights has this man ever respected?

Posted by: PMK at July 10, 2008 2:54 PM

I can't believe the Brits are not protesting in the streets in outrage!

And risk being accused of hate speech? Are you crazy? Better to pretend everything is okey dokey.

The important thing is to take comfort in knowing that you aren't contributing to someone being tortured in some middle east sh$% hole of a country. /sarc

Posted by: walterc at July 10, 2008 3:20 PM

wishbone, I have alerted RS to your ugly, nasty comment.

Posted by: darcy at July 10, 2008 4:23 PM

Wishbone wrote:

You know, Darcy..... If it ever comes to a scrap and we need Americans and other nations to pitch in again...... Feel free to stay at home.

There's better than you who'll fight at our sides. We don't need gloating shite like you at our backs.
...............................

Ouch! I would *never* presume to speak for Darcy, but I know that I was in no way gloating with the "Fool Brittania" comment--We've been plenty foolish here in the States at times, also--as has most of the rest of the West.

I'm American, but my mother's English, and I still have lots of family in Britain. My mother and aunt were both in the army as teens in WWII. My mother was a teletype operator who went through the London blitz--she once survived a direct hit on the building she was working in (luckily the bomb was a dud--still did a lot of damage, though), and my aunt drove supply trucks under hazardous blackout conditions from London to the channel coast.

No gloating here, Wishbone, I assure you. We need to stick together.

Posted by: gravenimage at July 10, 2008 4:39 PM

Thanks, gravenimage, as I posted above, I have alerted RS to the nasty comment. Right - in NO way "gloating" - how absurd! - we feel sorry for UK, we wish it wasn't happening! Hello! That's a no-brainer. Thanks, gravenimage.

No gloating here, Wishbone, I assure you. We need to stick together.

Posted by: gravenimage at July 10, 2008 4:39 PM

Exactly.

Posted by: darcy at July 10, 2008 5:06 PM

From a piece in The New Duranty (NY)Times on July 4 that was mainly about another Muslim terrorist figure, not Abu Qatada, who was about to be released:

"The frustration was mirrored in a commentary published after Abu Qatada’s release in The Sun, the hell-raising tabloid that is Britain’s most widely sold newspaper.

“Poor old Osama bin Laden, scuttling around the war-torn Afghan mountains to avoid death or capture,” the newspaper said. “But hope is on the horizon for the world’s most wanted terrorist. There’s one place on Earth where he would be perfectly safe. Britain. Here, we throw nobody out. Bin Laden has every chance of ending his days among peace and plenty.”

British newspapers have chronicled the steep costs of years of court proceedings against those suspected of being terrorist leaders, and what British commentators have described as overly generous welfare payments to them and their families. After Abu Qatada was released, the newspapers said, he was granted a $300-a-week disability payment because a bad back made it impossible for him to work, even though the release order prevented him from seeking employment.

Officials have estimated the cost of maintaining surveillance on Abu Qatada in the four-bedroom Edwardian house in west London where he is confined with his wife and five children at $2 million a year. Welfare payments to his family amount to an additional $90,000 a year, according to news accounts. Similar figures have been calculated for the family of a man with the alias of Abu Hamza al-Masri, a 51-year-old Egyptian-born cleric with steel prosthetics for hands who once ran the main Qaeda Web site in Britain, now serving a seven-year prison term for incitement to murder.

The Hamza case is cited by British officials as one in which the legal system here has effectively stifled an Islamic extremist leader. The British government has agreed to his extradition to the United States, where he faces a possible life sentence on charges that involve being part of a global conspiracy to wage holy war against the United States, and trying to set up a Qaeda training camp in Oregon."

Nota Bene:

Abu Qatada lives in a $1.6 million dollar house on a leafy street in a better part of London. His family receives $90,000 a year from British taxpayers. Those Infidel taxpayers also foot the bill for the approximately two million dollars a year it costs to monitor Abu Qatada.

It's in the story: "Officials have estimated the cost of maintaining surveillance on Abu Qatada in the four-bedroom Edwardian house in west London where he is confined with his wife and five children at $2 million a year. Welfare payments to his family amount to an additional $90,000 a year, according to news accounts."

Think about it. Read it again. Think some more. Think about how many Abu Qatadas there are in Great Britain, yet to be found or to be charged. Think how many of them can claim, and truthfully, that if they are expelled and sent back to their Muslim lands, they can expect treatment far harsher than what advanced Western nations infllict nowadays as punishment. And that argument will be used to allow such people to stay indefinitely, at the expense of local taxpayers, living in astonishing luxury.

This makes no sense. The laws must be changed. Attitudes must change. There must be a change of personnel, so that all those who have mentally acclimated themselves to, and even grown accepting of, this nonsense are kicked out, are driven from power or the neighborhoods of power. An entirely new set of people has to come in, and take control, and bring those who presume to instruct and protect others, because they are in the government, to their collective senses.

Posted by: Hugh at July 10, 2008 5:09 PM

@ Wishbone--
I can totally understand your comment since it was made out of sheer and utter frustration. Not too long ago, your country was the victim of a different type of invasion. Your government protected its' people and you all fought side by side.
Now it would appear the government has changed sides and now have welcomed the invaders. Where do you have to go? Who do you voice your opinions to? Everything is becoming more & more censored.
I could not imagine living under those circumstances. I do expect shortly an uprising of the people of Great Britain as well as all of Europe. I just hope that it is not too late.

Posted by: Ladywolfnl at July 10, 2008 5:46 PM

Let's see. That house costs the British taxpayer about $5,000 a month in rent. A nice, quiet, leafy street. No sense in having those round-the-clock security men monitoring everything, and also of course having to be paid by the British taxpayer, not have pleasant surroundings for their indescribably tedious job.

And the free medical care for Abu Qatada, and Mrs. Abu Qatada, and all the little Abu Qatadas? What's that worth? In this Dickensian country, individual insurance (or do members of Al Qaeda, or of the Greater London Umma, qualify for a Group Rate nowadays?) for a family would cost close to the equivalent of $22,000 per year. And what about schooling? Will the five little Abu Qatadas go to the fancy neighborhood schools, where they will no doubt integrate as smoothly as Muslim children do elsewhere in London, in Manchester, in Bradford, in Birmingham, in Leeds, in Paris and Marseille, in Berlin and Hamburg, in Malmo, and in Rotterdam, and in Amsterdam, integrating so smoothly that the teachers and the administrators and all their fellow, non-Muslim, conceivably indigenous students, scarcely have words to describe the situation. Since Mr. and Mrs. Abu Qatada won't be able to work anytime soon -- did they ever? -- I suppose that Mrs. Qatada will also be getting some extra benefits, and perhaps they will have time, however, to have more and more little Abu Qatadas, raised up in the One True Faith, right there on that leafy street in Old Londinium.

Add it all up -- the rent, the free medical care, the schools, the other conceivable benefits that a crazed welfare state supplies. The Qatadas themselves, Mr. and Mrs. and the Five Little Qatadas (and how soon they grow up, don't they?), on the British-taxpayer's tab, will cost close to $100,000 tax-free of course (why tax what you feel compelled to give out in the first place?), and that's only the estimated rent and medical costs, not the education that is supplied for free, and no doubt the neighborhood schools in such a posh neighborhood are very good indeed. And just think of how happy the other school boys and girls will be to welcome the little Qatadas into their midst)as more and more little Abu Qatadas are conceivably produced, and the ones already there grow bigger, and bigger, and bigger, and their minds, already filled with what Islam teaches, become more adept, because they will know the language, and the locals, even better than their father did, and know how to conduct Da'wa, or other forms of Jihad to ensure the spread, and then the dominance, of Islam, even better than he did.

And he's no slouch, was he?

Oh, did I forget to mention the two million dollars that British taxpayers have to spend to monitor Mr. Qatada? I did? Sorry.

Add that to the total, do.

Posted by: Hugh at July 10, 2008 6:06 PM

At times like these you really have to wonder who the enemy really is, as our respective Goverment's are doing a great job of selling us out on their own. so called democracy, or "democrazy" is dead! whenever the people want something done in their best interests it is either ignored or only partly implemented and people and getting fed up of being sidelined. but for change to come it will probably take full scale riots and blood in the streets before our goverments decide to listen to the shout of "NO MORE"

Posted by: Sm0kA at July 10, 2008 6:50 PM

A reminder: Keep it civil, or I will delete. I'm not going to have another thread snowball into ad hominems and unending jockeying for the last word.

And just because someone dishes it out, doesn't mean you have to respond in kind. Regardless of who you think set off the exchange.

Posted by: MarisolJW at July 10, 2008 7:48 PM

Seconding Marisol.

We're all feeling...stunned. Furious. Bewildered.

We can't afford to waste time hammering or sniping at each other.

Let's keep our eyes on the prize.

Let's look at the article under discussion, again, coldly and dispassionately, and try to work out what concrete actions, however small, may be taken by UK jihadwatchers 'on the spot', particularly anyone in London.

Who's the local police chief? Can a delegation of irate local Londoners present the local bobbies - I'm thinking of the cop shop nearest to Mr Qatada's residence - with a copy of 'Onward Muslim Soldiers' or 'PIG to Islam and the Crusades'? Or 'The Truth About Muhammad', offered as an accurate and scholarly description and analysis of certain significant high points in the career of the founder of Islam.

Where's the nearest parish church to Mr Abu Qatada's palatial abode? The nearest synagogue? The nearest Hindu temple? Can something be done there, by way of consciousness-raising? Can they hold video evenings of 'Islam: What the West Needs to Know'?

Which Parliamentarian now has Mr Abu Qatada residing within his constituency? How can non-Muslim constituents start applying turps to said MP's tail? Does anyone reading this, live near there?

Can an anonymous SWAT team slip discs of 'Fitna' and Geert Wilders' speech to the Danish Parliament, into Infidel letterboxes around that neighbourhood?

And for inspiration, let all UK jihadwatchers reread a chapter of J R R Tolkien's "Lord of the Rings: Return of the King", the one entitled "The Scouring of the Shire".

Oh, and next Guy Fawkes day, bonfires featuring effigies of Mr Abu Qatada back to back with the 'guy' might be in order.

Posted by: dumbledoresarmy at July 10, 2008 8:40 PM

That is just it----they have no where to go, they cannot merely rise up like we can in the USA.
Perfect example, from The Brussels Journal
" A couple of years ago a 10 year-old boy was taken to court for racism because he called another boy, “Paki” and “Bin Laden.” This is not nice, but it is also not a crime. The case was dismissed by District Judge Jonathan Finestein, who then found himself denounced, and protested against, by a teachers’ union. The union accused Finestein of feeding the extreme Right-wing agenda, despite the fact that he is Jewish, or that his dismissal of the case as, “political correctness gone mad,” was backed by the Muslim Council of Britain."
I am sure the average British citizen feels as if they are on a sinking ship---only no one is throwing them a life preserver-

Posted by: Ladywolfnl at July 10, 2008 8:58 PM

How would his rights be violated in Jordan?
He wouldnt have access to infidels to kill? He couldnt jihad ?what? where is the proof of the claim?

Posted by: Mr.Fitnah at July 11, 2008 11:11 AM

Ladywolfnl,

You're right that things aren't as bad for us in the US, as they are for the English. Yet.

I'm pondering your comment: "they cannot merely rise up like we can in the USA."

I'm not so sure we can rise up in the USA. Believe me, I'd love to think so, but it's quickly becoming unfashionable to be a patriot, in America.

It's this bad, where I work: Each year we are given a mandatory sermon on "Diversity", and it is made plain to us that any deviation from the standard set for us by the Multi-Culti BS artists, will be severely punished.

Yes, that's in my workplace, not the whole country. However, I spend about 12 hours of my day either at work, commuting to and from work, or getting ready for work.

If I were allowed to discuss my concerns with my co-workers, maybe I could make a difference; maybe a few other people would become ready to rise up, as a result. But, it's verboten to so much as hint that there's a problem with Islam and Muslims in the US. I've gotten in trouble for leaving flyers in the break room (about Ahmadinejad).

We're guaranteed our right to free speech, by our Constitution, but it doesn't make us popular at all, if we decide to use it, on our own time. Anyone who cries out that the Emporer is nekkid, is silenced, if possible, scorned and censured, if not.

The noose is around our necks, too. It's just not as tight yet as the one around the necks of our British cousins.

Oh, how I hope you're right that we can and will rise up, when the situation reaches the proverbial "critical mass", here in the US. I admire your optimism, and I pray that it's justified.

Posted by: Abscedere at July 11, 2008 11:57 AM