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Just a kid
Footage of Omar Khadr weeping and calling out for Mommy has been circulating around, renewing charges that Guantanamo is a torture camp. Yet a soldier who encountered Omar Khadr in different circumstances says that he deserves what he has been getting. "Khadr 'earned' Guantanamo stay, says soldier," by Stewart Bell for the National Post, July 15 (thanks to all who sent this in):
A retired U.S. soldier who was ambushed by armed fighters holed up in the mud compound where Omar Khadr was captured said on Tuesday the Canadian deserves to be at Guantanamo Bay.Sergeant Layne Morris said he had not seen the dramatic interrogation video released by Mr. Khadr's lawyers, in which the young detainee cries for help, but he brushed off the footage as a public relations exercise.
Sgt. Morris said the defence lawyers' strategy seemed to be to win sympathy for their client, and that he found it "troublesome" the public had to be constantly reminded of what Mr. Khadr is alleged to have done six years ago.
Indeed.
"My lasting image of Omar is of him crouched in the rubble waiting for U.S. troops to get close enough so he could take one of them out, and he did that successfully and that is the underlying reason why we're all here in the first place," Sgt. Morris said."Omar is not a kid that was just snatched up off the street somewhere and has been wrongly charged and judged unfairly. I think he is precisely where he needs to be. He's earned that stay."...
Posted by Robert at July 16, 2008 3:56 PM
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I imagine cnn msnbc cbs and abs as well as the times are eating this up i dont watch these chaNNELS NO MORE.
Posted by: spcbat
at July 16, 2008 4:18 PM
Oh it's PR alright. Khadr's lawyers are trying to induce the Canadian government to petition to have their client sent here (I'm in Canada) to stand trial under Canadian civil law. So far the federal government is unmoved, but they have their critics. Presumably their view of the matter is that requesting the return of a Canadian citizen from American custody (as if the United States could be expected to be no more responsible with a prisoner under indictment than, say, Libya) would come close to being an undiplomatic insult.
Together with the very good point made by Sergeant Morris, one might also keep in mind that the film at present in circulation was made four years ago. Omar Khadr is not a weepy sixteen year old today. One wonders what a little footage of his characteristic demeanor now would do for his image.
Posted by: Novalis
at July 16, 2008 4:24 PM
I have no 'ZERO' compassion for the enemy. And while all the liberals are 'crying a river' for this waste of skin.....maybe they could remember and ask little crybaby Omar what was he doing with a 'grenade in his hands' when he killed a U.S. soldier?
And who trained Omar to fight for Islam?
Would the U.S. soldiers family like to comment about Omar? I am sure that their shed tears for the loss of a great man are much more justified then the media time the MSM are giving this enemy.
In the future this problem would be fixed by taking no prisoners.
I agree with Al Gore..(sarcasm)..what is the carbon footprint of rescuing the enemy wounded in the field or by taking prisoners. I think this is one area that we could agree on reducing those carbon emission. No rescue, no prisoners.
Posted by: alaskan1000
at July 16, 2008 4:24 PM
Is there anyway we could get Sgt. Morris on a tape for You Tube consumption?
Posted by: Im.mad.as.HELL!
at July 16, 2008 4:31 PM
This reminds so much of Mumia Abu-Jumal and the fight he's waged in the media to make him seem less of a killer. It sickens me to no end.
Posted by: Cuda
at July 16, 2008 4:36 PM
spcbat-
"I imagine cnn msnbc cbs and abs as well as the times are eating this up i dont watch these chaNNELS NO MORE.
Don't watch television, it is the elephant in America's living room.
Television is a machine and you are the product.
America before television: The Greatest Generation. America after television: the 'sixties' generation - and we've never recovered.
Posted by: poetcomic1
at July 16, 2008 4:37 PM
This kid went to train in Afghanistan with his family's blessing, heck they SENT him there. Then he kills an American medic (nice), gets caught and now the media thinks we should all feel sorry for the guy. Er, NO.
Posted by: gymgal
at July 16, 2008 4:40 PM
Nice family too.
From The Western Standard:
http://westernstandard.blogs.com/shotgun/2007/10/jihadist-welfar.html
"Papa Khadr was a senior member of al-Qaeda who took his family to Afghanistan where they hung out with Osama Bin Laden. During the 1990’s, he was arrested for his part in a terrorist attack in Afghanistan, but he was kindly sprung from jail through the intervention of Jean Chretien.
Mommy and Daddy al-Qaeda raised their children to be good little martyrs. The eldest daughter’s wedding was attended by Bin Laden – and she’s reportedly under investigation by the RCMP. Two of the sons – Abdul and Omar – ended in Guantanamo Bay after being captured while fighting on behalf of the terrorists. Abdul flipped and managed to get out of Gitmo by working for the CIA. Omar, who killed an American in combat, is about to be tried for murder. Another son is in jail in Canada, awaiting extradition to the United States.
Eventually, Daddy Khadr was killed while fighting alongside al-Qaeda forces. In the same battle Abdulkareem, the youngest son, was seriously wounded. It was at this point – with her son in need of extensive (and expensive!) medical care that Mommy Khadr discovered her secret affection for Tim Horton’s and the National Hockey League and began to first demand her and her children’s “rights” as “Canadians.”
So, to summarize: the elder Khadr came to Canada in the mid-1970’s and then returned to the Islamic world in the early 1980’s – thereafter returning to Canada only sporadically (most notably for a year of free health treatment when he was wounded by a land mine). Since then he – and his progeny – have devoted themselves to waging war against the West. But, somehow, we are supposed to simply accept that these people – citizens of convenience who have waged war against our nation and civilization – are legitimate “Canadians” and to grin and bear it while they, being natural parasites with no respect for our nation, suck tax dollars out of our system to pay for the surely expensive medical treatment for someone wounded while standing alongside our enemies."
And the left is in a tizzy over being interviewed at all, by that cruel CSIS agent, with comments like this:
"if those tapes accurately represent the current efficacy of wartime interrogations, we’re all in big trouble (eg., this from a heartless CSIS agent: “Look, I want to take a few minutes, I want you to get yourself together, you know, relax a bit, have a bite to eat and we’ll start again.”)" (I won't link to it..sorry. I'd have to shower right away)
Yes, how cruel! and with spineless spin like that, we certainly are all in big trouble indeed.
Posted by: Sounder
at July 16, 2008 4:42 PM
I have noticed a striking similarity between the brutality of omar khadr video and the brutality Nick Berg video. I’m sure that the moon bats and muslims will be all enraged about the treatment that poor omar is getting, funny though the silence was deafening with the Berg video.
Posted by: Winged_Hussar
at July 16, 2008 5:20 PM
Surprise Surprise the BBC ran the tape of the poor boys suffering on yesterdays Radio news - not sure if it was on TV News at night.
Posted by: Fred
at July 16, 2008 5:31 PM
Yea, what MP said.
Posted by: undaunted
at July 16, 2008 5:42 PM
He's a Canadian citizen found on a battlefield in armed conflict against the West. He should be treated as a traitor and shot. It's what you do with spies. They should have killed him on the battlefield.
Posted by: Ian
at July 16, 2008 5:57 PM
I fully agree, Ian. Sadly this is just a politcal football now so we're seeing a pathetic 'bend-over-backwards' mentality that's just causing more harm than good to the Allied troops.
Another example is the lack of air cover in the recently reported British 'Operation Certain Death' where the air cover wasn't cleared to attack as they could only respond to a hostile action, not support troops getting attacked on the ground.
Insanity.
Posted by: Abu_Lahab
at July 16, 2008 7:13 PM
Cry me a river (of denial)........
Posted by: HOV Dummy
at July 16, 2008 9:43 PM
Lt.C. Ralph Peters on Omar Khadr Gitmo Tape: "We should have killed that punk on a battlefield where it was legal to do so!"
Watch video at http://muslimsagainstsharia.blogspot.com/2008/07/ltc-ralph-peters-on-omar-khadr-gitmo.html
Posted by: Muslims Against Sharia
at July 16, 2008 11:23 PM
I propose, to the US or UK or French intelligence services, or the defence forces, that next time an actual or suspected jihadist is caught on the battlefield, or arrested back home in the lands of the Infidel, and must be interrogated, that the following interrogation 'dream team' be put together, by way of experiment.
Mr Robert Spencer, fluent speaker of Arabic, knowledgeable as to the Quran and the rest of it; Ms Wafa Sultan, psychiatrist; Ms Nonie Darwish, psychologist; Ms Phyllis Chesler, psychologist; Mr Ali Sina, psychologist; and Raphael Israeli. It might also be useful to call in one or two who have apostasised from Islam to Christianity - Magdi Cristiano Allam, say, or Daniel Shayesteh, or Patrick Sookhdeo. And Pierre Rehov to record the proceedings.
A room, and some chairs, and some large, impassive Marines to restrain the prisoner - in prison pyjamas - and prevent him from either attacking his interviewers, or attempting to escape.
Let the jihadist be questioned - in pleasant, but unavoidable conversation, dawn to dusk, day after day - by a team of patient, implacable, quietly deadly non-dhimmis who see right through him; who can anticipate every dodge, every evasion, every trick of taqiyya and kitman, and some of whom know his own sacred texts inside out. Worse: a team that includes Jews, and apostates from Islam.
It would be interesting to find out how long it would take for the team to catch him out in a simple, checkable, relevant-in-court lie about some matter of fact.
And I wonder how long it would take before the demons - the Mad Hattery, the conspiracy theories, the nonsense and lies, the pathological narcissism, the murderous contempt for all non-Muslims but especially for Jews, the will to kill, to hurt and to humiliate others - came snarling and spitting out from behind whatever smiling or pitiable facade he was trying to put across.
For I don't think that, faced with interrogators of the calibre I propose, he would be able - or desire - to sustain his deceptions, indefinitely.
Posted by: dumbledoresarmy
at July 17, 2008 1:52 AM
They should have emptied a clip into this waste of space when they caught him. He was an armed combatant on a battlefield, it would have been perfectly justifiable, and probably would have been for the best. I doubt he told us anything we did not know already about training camps in Pakistan etc'
Posted by: Defender of The Realm
at July 17, 2008 4:34 AM
Reading comments about this case, and letters to various newspapers across the country, it seems Canadians are not having the wool pulled over their eyes this time. Most remarks I have read are unsympathetic to Khadr and his horrible family. Here's a letter published in the Toronto Sun newspaper:
"Re " 'This kid's not a terrorist'" (July 16): This cheap publicity stunt by terrorist Omar Khadr's lawyers is embarrassing. They are trying to depict this child enemy combatant/terrorist as a harmless waif. He was in fact wounded in a firefight after lobbing a grenade and killing an American soldier. He made a choice and is lucky to be alive. Being held in a detention facility, fed and cared for is quite possibly more than he deserves. He is after all alive and well, the American soldier is not. Keep Khadr in Guantanamo, we're having enough trouble in Canada already with youths running amok."
C.P. Davis, Winnipeg
at July 17, 2008 6:53 AM
What Canada needs to do is request extradition, then charge him with treason (something the US can't) and have him facing a death sentence in quick order. Then justice will be served and it will be a deterrant for others to try to get extradited. It's win-win.
Posted by: Rev Wolf
at July 17, 2008 12:44 PM
The real gross stupidity shown in this case was in letting this piece of filth live in the first place. Had something similar to this happened during World War II, he would have been killed on the spot where he crouched. No messing. And that ought to be the same today. Thanks to the activities of pc multiculturalists, human rights activists and greedy bloodsucking lawyers, we will lose against these savages because we can no longer summon up the sort of ruthlessness required to win, and this episode is the classic example of our pc-driven suicidal humanity.
Posted by: Spirit Of 1683
at July 17, 2008 3:19 PM
Hypocrisy of the "Repatriate Omar Khadr to Canada" Movement
As soon as the Gitmo interrogation tape of Omar Khadr hit the Internet, the blogosphere was flooded with demands to repatriate him to Canada. This wave is reminiscent of a Soviet campaign to free Luis Corvalán from the "fascist regime" of Augusto Pinochet thirty five years ago. The scenario is strikingly similar. A "victim" held by "fascist regimes" this time run by Bush and Harper, and a public outcry for justice. Except for the fact that Luis Corvalán didn't kill anyone and didn't fight for a terrorist group that wants to impose Sharia.
The "repatriate Khadr" crowd describes him as "a child", "a kid", "a boy", and even "a torture victim", with no facts to substantiate the torture claims notwithstanding. They complain about Khadr being mistreated, again, without anything to back up their claims. Some of them are outraged about "child abuse." And they all scream for justice.
They want justice? OK, let's talk about JUSTICE. What about justice for Sgt. First Class Christopher J. Speer, who was (according to an eyewitness) murdered by this "child"? What about justice for Tabitha Speer, who is a widow because of this "kid"? What about justice for Taryn and Tanner Speer, who are left without a father by this "a boy"? And what about all those Afghani civilians and NATO troops who are a little bit safer because this "torture victim" is behind bars? How many of these "repatriate Khadr" hypocrites concern themselves with justice for real victims? In literally hundreds of posts, we couldn't find a single one.
One would ask, what is the reason for this idiocy? The answer is simple. Ignorance. Complete and utter ignorance. Let's forget for a second that Omar Khadr killed Christopher Speer. Let's forget that Khadr's father was an al Qaeda financier. Let's forget that Khadr's family is known for it being al Qaeda sympathizers. Let's just remember what this "child" was fighting for in Afghanistan.
This is what Taliban-imposed Sharia looks like in real life: http://muslimsagainstsharia.blogspot.com/2000/07/hypocrisy-of-repatriate-omar-khadr-to.html
Why don't all of you, bleeding heart demagogues go to Afghanistan and spend a day in a Taliban-controlled territory? And let's talk about Khadr when you get back. If you get back.
Posted by: Muslims Against Sharia
at July 19, 2008 1:55 PM
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