Better get Atticus ....

Posted by: David Xavier at July 22, 2008 6:51 PM

Valiant effort Hugh...an honest to goodness pep-talk...against a back-drop of economic peril, energy insecurity, and dhimmi triumph in our up-coming elections.

For me, trying to be positive about the state-of-the-world right now is like climbing Everest. I find my peace by retreating into my family, my music and - on weekends - my beloved beer.

Keep it up though. A positive message never hurts.

Posted by: Cornelius at July 22, 2008 7:18 PM

Alexander Solzhenitsyn, one of the greatest human beings alive today, made the following remark upon the occasion of President Ronald Reagan's death in June of 2004. He said:

"In July 1975 I concluded my remarks in the reception room of the U.S. Senate with these words: 'Very soon, all too soon, your government will need not just extraordinary men-----but men of greatness. Find them in your souls. Find them in your hearts. Find them within the breadth and depth of your homeland.' Five years later, I was overjoyed when just such a man came to the White House. May the soft earth be a cushion in his present rest."

We need men of greatness again to combat the most formidable evil of them all------Islam. I hope they're out there. Since I'm an optimist, I will presume they are. We need them soon.

Posted by: Wellington at July 22, 2008 7:26 PM

Wellinton,

If only there was such a man on the horizon. Tom Tancredo fits the bill, but in our culture, he's considered an extremist, a joke, or both.

Posted by: Cornelius at July 22, 2008 7:35 PM

My favourite Churchillian passage on Islam comes from his 'Story of the Malakand Field Force.' It's worth posting again, i think:
"
It is, thank heaven, difficult if not impossible for the modern European to fully appreciate the force which fanaticism exercises among an ignorant, warlike and Oriental population. Several generations have elapsed since the nations of the West have drawn the sword in religious controversy, and the evil memories of the gloomy past have soon faded in the strong, clear light of Rationalism and human sympathy. Indeed it is evident that Christianity, however degraded and distorted by cruelty and intolerance, must always exert a modifying influence on men's passions,and protect them from the more violent forms of fanatical fever, as we are protected from smallpox by vaccination. But the Mahommedan religion increases, instead of lessening, the fury of intolerance. It was originally propagated by the sword, and ever since, its votaries have been subject, above the people of all other creeds, to this form of madness. In a moment the fruits of patient toil, the prospects of material prosperity, the fear of death itself, are flung aside. The more emotional Pathans are powerless to resist. All rational considerations are forgotten. Seizing their weapons, they become Ghazis--as dangerous and as sensible as mad dogs: fit only to be treated as such. While the more generous spirits among the tribesmen become convulsed in an ecstasy of religious bloodthirstiness, poorer and more material souls derive additional impulses from the influence of others, the hopes of plunder
and the joy of fighting. Thus whole nations are roused to arms. Thus the Turks repel their enemies, the Arabs of the Soudan break the British
squares, and the rising on the Indian frontier spreads far and wide. In each case civilisation is confronted with militant Mahommedanism. The forces of progress clash with those of reaction.The religion of blood and war is face to face with that of peace. Luckily the religion of peace is usually the better armed."

Posted by: wallyUK at July 22, 2008 7:44 PM

Thanks for that quote wallyUK; unfortunately for us today, the religion of war is making billions off us via oil revenues.

Posted by: eve_anne_gelical at July 22, 2008 7:50 PM

Better get Atticus ....

Posted by: David Xavier
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Cicero's friend?

Posted by: Hyman Roth at July 22, 2008 7:51 PM

Gee, Wally, it sounds like Churchill has his religions of peace mixed up, or is it George Bush?

Posted by: jewdog at July 22, 2008 7:57 PM

Cornelius: As I've written before here at JW, Tom Tancredo has the right message but he is not the right messenger. Someone with far greater political skill, in the Reagan, FDR, Lincoln mode, will need to come forward to rescue America from the most invidious totalitarian ideology of all time. After all, an intrinsic aspect of true leadership is the ability to take your nation to a place it does not yet know it has to go. I see no such person on the horizon but I can't believe that one or more of such a special type of human being is not out there. Exigent times tend to produce the right person when civilization has its back against the wall. Let's hope this time will prove no exception to this rule.

Appreciate your many posts and find myself in agreement with almost everything you assert. Nothing you've posted warmed my heart more than the phrase you just used above----"beloved beer." Whenever things get me down, and the world makes me wonder if existence might not be a cruel joke, I find myself thinking the same thought: Hey, it could be much worse; we could live in a world without beer. Of course, the Mohammedans, abysmal across the board, also get this one wrong. And I write this to you just having enjoyed a fine Yuengling Porter. My best to you and yours.

Posted by: Wellington at July 22, 2008 7:58 PM

Hyman Roth

I think 'david xavier' means Atticus Finch, the hero of 'To Kill a Mockingbird'.

Posted by: dumbledoresarmy at July 22, 2008 9:06 PM

Here's someone else, besides that great warrior Churchill, upon whose character and conduct we may profitably reflect, in this darkening hour: Orde Wingate, whom the Jews of pre-WWII Israel ultimately dubbed ha-yedid ('the Friend').

http://www.zionism-israel.com/bio/Charles_Orde_Wingate.htm

Where is the film-maker who will honour Wingate with a good old-fashioned blood-and-thunder biopic worthy of the man?

Note, from the page I've linked, *this*:

"Winston Churchill said of Wingate, 'There was a man of genius who might well have become also a man of destiny.' Another Prime Minister, David Ben-Gurion, wrote that Wingate would have been Israel's first military chief of staff, if he had lived."

Posted by: dumbledoresarmy at July 22, 2008 9:15 PM

DDA,

"Atticus was leaving the post office when Mr. Ewell approached him, cursed him, spat on him, and threatened to kill him... but Atticus didn't bat an eye..."

A good man to have around when dealing with rabid 'animals'. ( My niece was reading it for school and left it around , yes I will get my Readings up to a junior high school level yet!)

Posted by: David Xavier at July 22, 2008 9:39 PM

Very kind words Wellington....thanks.

I'm in a prolonged Corona period right now...but if tough times continue, I might revert back to Icehouse (good old 5.9%).

Meanwhile, you're right about Tancredo...he is proof that substance more often than not takes a back seat to form in politics (as in so many other facets of life). His ideas are right-on but his delivery - particularly via the TV interview - is a frigg'n disaster.

I'm so tired of seeing the likes of Tancredo, David Horowitz and so many others with something profoundly important to say...squandering precious time during a two-minute interview setting up their point and then being interrupted before they can make it. Horowitz is so eloquent - even brilliant - when speaking extemporaneously from a podium...but it seems he stumbles, stammers and/or resorts to hyperbole every time he does a TV interview.

Anyway, glad to read you're an optimist. Our side needs it.

Posted by: Cornelius at July 22, 2008 9:43 PM

thanks Hugh and all who posted the Churchillian quotes, they were just what I needed to read now.

I too am a perpetual optimist, but sometimes I feel like Cornelius above and wonder if I should be retreating to the log cabin in the mountains (with cable of course) and just giving up on "society" such as it seems to be these days.

Since Ummah has allowed me to preside over the US in his new religion, I am going to stay and fight. It's the least I can do ;o)

Churchill would be pleased with us all.

Posted by: gymgal at July 22, 2008 10:13 PM

Time to read a copy of "The River War".

Posted by: tanstaafl at July 22, 2008 10:30 PM

Time to read a copy of "The River War".

Posted by: tanstaafl at July 22, 2008 10:31 PM

"The River Wars"

Make sure you don't inadvertently acquire a later, bowdlerized version.

Posted by: Hugh at July 23, 2008 12:32 AM

"The River Wars"

Make sure you don't inadvertently acquire a later, bowdlerized version. - Hugh

Unfortunately it is not that easy to find the 1899 edition or its reprint, in two volumes. All later editions were abridged and without that quotation.

Very big bucks will buy it, used, and some top libraries hold it. Anyone aware of a "print-on-demand" version of the original?

Posted by: MBR at July 23, 2008 1:08 AM

"We need men of greatness again to combat the most formidable evil of them all------Islam. I hope they're out there. Since I'm an optimist, I will presume they are. We need them soon."

Whisper it ...... Robert Spencer?

Posted by: Nokingofmine at July 23, 2008 4:25 AM

Are we living through "Robert Spencer - the blogging years" ?

Posted by: Nokingofmine at July 23, 2008 4:28 AM

Unfortunately today's men of greatness are liable to be locked up for committing thought crime.

Posted by: watling at July 23, 2008 5:18 AM

Mr Fitzgerald,

I know you don't like Le Pen much. But how do you like this?

THE SPEECH OF JEAN-MARIE LE PEN AT STRASBOURG

http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2008/07/they-say-le-pen-mopped-floor-with.html#readfurther

Mister President,

You are currently in charge, for the next 6 months, in this rotating and short-lived position, as President of the European Union.

Contrary to the majority of the French electorate, you have revealed yourself as a zealous europeist, even daring to reintroduce (under a hardly changed format of the Lisbon Treaty) the Constitution that the Dutch, alongside the French, rejected in 2005.

Your project to re-introduce the Lisbon Treaty has failed again because it has stumbled on the will of the Irish people. Therefore, it is null and void, despite all the manoeuvers to try to impose the will of the reining euro-internationalist camarilla on the European people.

As a young deputy, I voted in 1957 against the Treaty of Rome, which was the first stage of a process aiming to lead to the United States of Europe according to its promoters: Monnet and Coudenhove-kalergi among others.

Given that this Tower of Babel was only able to be built on the debris of the nations and initially of my fatherland France, I have been its determined adversary ever since. It is said that globalization involves fundamental changes everywhere to which we must subdue ourselves.

But the truth is that, in the world, the nations are getting stronger, supported by enthusiastic patriotism, except in only one place, Europe, where nations and fatherlands are sold off, dismantled, demoralized for the profit of a project without power, without identity, while the foreign migratory waves invade it gradually and that the opening of our economic borders, delivers it to the unrestrained competition of the rest of the world.

- - - - - - - - -
None of the promises made (so that Europeans could accept the loss of their independence, their sovereignty, their identity, of their culture) were kept - neither economic growth, neither full employment, neither prosperity, nor safety. And it is anguish which prevails at the start of the coming systemic crisis: energy, food and financial meltdown. By then, it is true the media carousel will continue to turn; yesterday, the European soccer tournament, tennis at Roland Garros, tomorrow the Olympic games of Beijing and today the miraculous saga of an icon: Ingrid who laughs, who cries, who prays, who comes and goes supported by your fraternal arm.

In your desire to be the libertador (the liberator in English), you were misled in accepting negotiations with the terrorists of the FARC. But it is neither you, nor Mr Chavez who released the Colombian Senator Mrs Betancourt. It is President Uribe, who with tenacity, against the general mobilization of world progressives, gained a decisive victory over criminal terrorism.

You multiplied the approaches to negotiate in vain and you even went to the length of inviting the repented communist terrorists of the FARC to profit from asylum in France, but to protect them from whom? From Uribe the democrat! While you were at it, why not the talibans, the Hezbollah, the Tamils Tigers? You are like the amphisbene, dear to Césaire.

Do not doubt at any moment, Mr. President, that all your talent as media director will not be enough to avert the brewing crisis which you will have to face before the end of the year. Your Europe is a drifting vessel, windswept and beaten by the waves. It is the only region in the world to have deliberately dismantled its political and moral structures.

Without borders, gradually invaded by a mass immigration which is only at its beginning, economically ruined by the ultra-liberalism, socially impoverished, weakened demographically, without spirit and military strength. At best, it will fall under the American protectorate, at worse it will become a slave of the dhimmitude.

It is now long overdue to give up on the deadly illusion of federalism and to build a Europe of the nations, united in concrete alliances, probably more modest, but more effective.

Both failures, the Constitution and the Treaty, must be used as warnings. The people of Europe do not want them. They will not allow them to be forced upon them because they do not want to die.

Oh dear, I forgot. Mr. Le Pen is a racist. Therefore everything he says is wrong. People don’t mind dying if Mr Sarkozy and the other EU elites decide it’s a good idea.

Never mind.

Posted by: sheik yer'mami at July 23, 2008 6:14 AM

"how do you like this..."

Not much. The incoherence behind it is the deep moral incoherence of Le Pen. He may mouth a phrase or two that sounds right; he may even use the same terms that other, much better people use -- such as "dhimmitude." But if one knows Le Pen, one is not impressed. Even Chomsky can sometimes score a palpable hit on malefactors of great wealth, but so what? We read into what he says, in order to understand more fully what he means, and so we reject Chomsky, as Le Pen, even when either one happens, however briefly, to deviate into sense.

I like the "amphisbene" however, as a curio, and I assume Le Pen is alluding to Aime Cesaire, not to Jules-Cesar --offering the literary equivalent of "some of my best friends are..." I'm waiting to have Pat Buchanan inform us he's a great reader of I. B. Singer.

Posted by: Hugh at July 23, 2008 6:29 AM

Churchill would be brought up in front of the BC Human Rights Commission - what canaille.

It is not only vital to support what Churchill said, but to protect his right to have said it.

Screw the politically correct 'liberal' bastards. Take them on wherever the weasels surface.

Courage has to be the first virtue without which, the other virtues would be inoperative or inneffective.

Posted by: dgene at July 23, 2008 6:37 AM

l would rather like to tag islam as Europe's "New Black Death" and l think Churchill was a great individual who was able to see the futur with the understanding of the past and present.

Posted by: ZenaWarriorPrincess at July 23, 2008 6:44 AM

This favourite quote by Sir Winston is prominently posted in my home office:

"If you will not fight for the right when you can easily win without bloodshed; if you will not fight when your victory will be sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a small chance of survival. There may even be a worse case: you may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves."

Posted by: ImNoDhimmi at July 23, 2008 7:08 AM

Some of Churchill's books can be downloaded for free at Gutenberg.org here are the links for two of the books mentioned. The River War edition does not have Churchill's quote but it is well worth reading just for the description of the Battle of Omdurman, and of the last real cavalry charge in British military history in which he took part.

http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/4943

http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/9404

Both these books are well worth the effort. Not many people realize that most of Churchill's income came from his books. He wrote about 40 including a novel. His Nobel prize which he won was for literature and deservedly so. A couple of anecdotes that are well worth repeating about the Gentleman, one concern the great man himself and another about his beloved wife Clementine, in many ways they were a matched pair.
The first is shortly after the war. Churchill was discussing with a friend that he most likely would have to sell his house Chartwell to survive. His friend had a word will several of his rich friends and went back and suggested that would it be alright if his friends bought the house and Churchill could live there for a nominal rent for the rest of his life, the house being donated to the country at his death.

Churchill is reputed to have said, “For that price I will throw in the corpse as well.”

The other one concerns his wife, when Churchill left the House of Commons he was presented with a large painting of himself by Graham Sutherland, on his death Clementine had it burned in the back yard as she disliked it that much.

Posted by: Holger Dansker at July 23, 2008 7:53 AM

"Mohammedans" -- a term that, given the centrality of Muhammad to Islam, as uswa hasana, al-insan al-kamil -- is hardly unfair or even, as some suggest, misleading

True say. The argument that the term "Mohammedan" implies that Moslems worship Mohammed is as silly as suggesting that Lutherans worship Luther or Straussians worship Leo Strauss.

Unfortunately it is not that easy to find the 1899 edition or its reprint, in two volumes. All later editions were abridged and without that quotation.

St. Augustine's Press is issuing a reprint of the complete 2-volume set this fall:
http://www.staugustine.net/theriverwar.html

Unfortunately, it costs $150.00, so you may want to ask your local public library to order it.

Posted by: Seamus at July 23, 2008 10:30 AM

I'd happily settle for another Teddy Roosevelt.

Posted by: Infidel33 at July 23, 2008 10:39 AM

Teddy Roosevelt--John McCain's icon, to is credit.

Posted by: John C at July 23, 2008 6:20 PM

"his"

Posted by: John C at July 23, 2008 6:21 PM

To any Australian: there is at least one major public library in Australia that possesses a copy of the 1899 edition of 'The River Wars'.

There is another book that Hugh Fitzgerald has referred to, from time to time - John Roy Carlson's 'From Cairo to Damascus'.

I don't think it's in any library collection in Australia, but it *can* be found on sale, second hand, if one is prepared to search.

I am going to buy myself a copy; when I do, I will share any quotable quotes.

Posted by: dumbledoresarmy at July 24, 2008 12:22 AM