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The world continues to hail the Turkish Constitutional Court's decision not to ban the ruling AKP as a victory for democracy, while not taking into account in the slightest the possibility that the AKP may one day succeed in overturning Turkish democracy altogether, and replacing it with Sharia.
"Turkey's Islamists Inspire a New Climate of Fear," by Zeyno Baran in the Wall Street Journal, August 2, via the Hudson Institute (thanks to Ben):
This week's verdict by Turkey's Constitutional Court -- which rejected an attempt to ban the governing Justice and Development Party (AKP) for undermining the country's secular foundations -- has been hailed by the U.S. and the EU as a great step forward for democracy and rule of law. Fair enough. Banning a party that last year renewed its mandate in office with 47% of the vote would have been a huge setback for Turkey. But that doesn't mean we should all sigh with relief and conclude that liberal democracy is flourishing under the Islamic-oriented AKP's rule.Government surveillance of AK Party critics and leaks to media of personal phone conversations have created a climate of fear. There is concern among some liberals that the country is becoming a police state. The foundation of a healthy democracy -- the right to dissent and hold an elected government accountable -- is gradually being undermined.
When asked about mass wire-tapping, Minister of Transportation Binali Yildirim gave a Kafkaesque response: "It is not possible to prevent being listened to; the only way is not to talk [on the phone]. If there is nothing illegal in our actions, we should not be concerned about such things."
Some examples of recent intrusive practices in Turkey include the appearance on YouTube of voice recordings of prominent figures either from the military or antigovernment circles. Several anti-Islamist senior military officers have reportedly resigned over the past few years when faced with the possibility that their private conversations would be leaked. The leaks involve some top-secret military documents, so they are also highly illegal and might pose a serious security breach for the NATO alliance....
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Posted by Robert at August 5, 2008 3:13 PM
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The world keeps hailing islam as a religion of peace even though its passages are mainly more like the art of war and how to live then a religious book.
Saying there is evil or a devil or just inhuman behavior fits islam as a teaching and as a religion.
If there is a devil what type of religion would he create to control his army would it be disorganized undiciplined or a well oiled machine in teachings to control and attack others islam fits the latter.
we need to attack islam like we attacked the axis powers militarily, finances and there ability to wage war on all others.
All other religions and people must join together and fight islam as of yet we only have the axis fighting us a disorganized unmotivated world that seems bent on surrender not fight.
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at August 5, 2008 4:15 PM
I thought Turkey was always a quasi-police state? That is what kept it muslim-free, politically.
Just wait until those justices get their first taste of Sharia. Boy, won't they wish "The Time Machine" wasn't just a book written about a century ago.
Posted by: Kevin at August 5, 2008 4:39 PM
Better a police state than a sharia state.
Posted by: Eversor at August 5, 2008 5:19 PM
Those in the West who laud this court's decision (and it was close) simply don't understand or don't want to understand that Islam actually holds real democracy in contempt. Those who cherish democracy must be ever vigilant against those who would use democracy to destroy democracy. Thinking Muslims wouldn't do this would be akin to thinking Marxists or fascists wouldn't either. Best to think again.
Posted by: Wellington at August 5, 2008 6:12 PM
Turkey is in a no-win situation. If the military is not allowed to interfere in politics, as the EU demands, Turkey will be Islamic soon enough. No entry to the EU.
If the military interfers and overthrows the Islamist Justice and Development Party, there will be no entry to the EU.
at August 5, 2008 6:26 PM
DP111 i believe business leaders in eu know full well what they are doing look at sarkozy.
THEORY OF BUSINESS HELPING ISLAMOFICATION OF THE WORLD
Example A- SARKOZY RAN ON AN ANTI MUSLIM IMMIGRATION PLAN ONCE ELECTED BACKS OFF PLATFORM AND IS PUSHING TURKEY INTO THE E U AT THE SAME TIME THE E U IS PUSHING TO HURT THE MILITARY ANTI ISLAMIFICATION FORCES TRYING TO STEM THE TIDE OF THIS QUASI NAZI POLITICAL RELIGIOUS MOVEMENT.
THE REASON FOR I BELIEVE THE ISLAMIFICATION PUSH ON THE WEST IN COOPERATION WITH BUSINESS IS CALLED CONTROL OF THE PEOPLE WITH THE RELIGION OF SUBMISSION ISLAM.
Posted by: spcbat at August 5, 2008 6:43 PM
Trying to perfect democracy in an Islamic country was how J Carter scuttled the Shah of Iran and we wound up with Khomeinism.
But history repeats itself. Now we have Condhimmi Rice lauding the AKP regime and eventually Turkey will go the way of Iran.
at August 5, 2008 7:28 PM
If the allegations can be proven, it would be a huge success for the AKP for having the courage to tackle such a horrendous entity. If, however, it turns out to be mostly a show trial, then those concerned about Turkish democracy and rule of law need to reconsider where Turkey is headed.
-from the article
If it turns out to be a show trial, it will already be too late. The Islamists will have won, barring direct action by the military.
The Turkish military is in a unique position. The Constitution requires the military to ensure that the Turkish state remains secular. A military coup may be required to ensure the freedom of the Turkish people. How ironic.
Posted by: PMK at August 5, 2008 7:36 PM
Turkey is the perfect name for this land.
Stuffed with morbid Islam.
Posted by: profitsbeard at August 5, 2008 9:35 PM
Turkey is built on rot.
Denial of the Armenian genocide and destruction of other Christian peoples is this rot.
Ogün Samast, Hrant Dink's murderer posed with Turkish police.
All political parties in Turkey support the denial of the Armenian Genocide and support article 301 criminalizing open discussion of the Genocide.
Posted by: Charlie at August 6, 2008 7:16 AM
Those in the West unfamiliar with the Islamic world simply cannot understand that the Turkish military has consistently been a force for protecting the civil rights of Turks - insisting that the secular revolution of Ataturk be preserved in the face of creeping Islamisation and its attendant assaults on civil liberties. Thus, the NYT editorial praising the Turkish Supreme Court decision today. Surely our experience in Iraq (and Afghanistan) has taught us that 'democratizing' the Muslim world will only result in the tyranny of the majority and a return to sectarian violence and strife. This is what happens when free elections take place in a society with no democratic institutions, no constitution protecting individual rights vis-a-vis the government, and a long history of religiously sanctioned tyranny.
Posted by: Doubting David at August 6, 2008 11:50 AM
Islam is a deadly, evil, political cancer. Islamic followers are like sheep being led to the slaughter by the leaders who are similar in many ways to the worst kind of dictators.
Political Correctness and tolerance for Muslim efforts to introduce islamic culture and sharia laws in the west, is our form of kool-aid that we tend to willingly take without questioning "why are are we allowing this to happen?" -- Islam is not compatible with Western culture and democracies, but we tend to use our culturally similar neighbors to judge people, rather than read what these muslims actually write about western culture and countries.
How many of us are willing to believe that there are really evil people out there, with evil ideas, willing to kill, and torture us? Very few, and this is how muslims want it. It's so utterly unbelievable that people want Islam and Sharia law, and are so willing to give up their freedom, that we simply ignore everyone who points out the truth, because it just cannot be true. Right?
If you believe it can't happen here, have another sip of the kool-aid.
at August 6, 2008 10:07 PM
Dr. T, I don't think that the American people are as gullible as you think. I know that I network JD and other info to people I know and there are many more informed and curious people than you think. The word is out about islam here in the US and it's spreading across the country. We as Americans will never let the islamists take over. Our people always come together in the worst of times and they can never defeat that. Turkey and many other countries in Europe always think that they can create the perfect world and that's just not reality. I get so sick of hearing about these people who buckle under threats and intimidation. I have total faith that Americans are not like that in any way. We will fight for our freedoms and way of life. Whatever it takes.
Posted by: imamerican at August 6, 2008 10:29 PM
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