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August 9, 2008

Billboards: "Sharia law is hate"

It is good to see someone turning the Islamic supremacists' charge that opposing them is "hatred" back on them, and exposing the real haters. "Billboards announce: 'Sharia law is hate,'" by Drew Zahn for WorldNetDaily, August 8:

An organization in Florida plans to educate what it perceives as an increasingly culture-tolerant public about the horrific dictates of Islamic law by purchasing billboard space with a simple, but confrontational message: "Sharia law is hate."

The Central Florida chapter of the United American Committee, a nonprofit group that seeks to educate Americans on the threat of Islamic extremism, is raising money to purchase a six-month contract to display the billboard, which the group hopes will awaken the public to discussing the full extent of Islamic law.

"The UAC's goal in this project is to raise awareness because most people have no idea what Sharia law is," Alan Kornman, director of UAC's Central Florida branch, told WND. "We are confident people will see the billboard and learn on their own what Sharia law is and come to their own conclusions. At the very least, we hope our billboard will spark public debate on this overlooked issue."

The billboards will also include a link to UAC resources where people can learn more about Islam's Sharia law, a set of religious codes – both moral and legal; Sharia law recognizes no separation of church and state – that bind both Muslims and Islamic nations.

"Under Sharia law if you are accused of stealing, a hand and foot from opposite sides are amputated. If you are caught having an affair, the woman is stoned to death and the man is given 80 lashes. If you change religions, you can be charged under apostasy laws and given the death sentence by a legal Sharia court. If you want to marry a nine-year-old child, Sharia law condones pedophilia, because Mohammad married Aisha at six and consummated the marriage at age nine. I find these and many more practices of Sharia law despicable and hateful," said Kornman.

Posted by Robert at August 9, 2008 8:30 AM
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Let me guess--CAIR's response: "This is race-baiting fearmongering. Feamongering is Islamophobia. Islamophobia is hate." Gee, this Islamist playbook is so predictable! Kinda reminds me of IngSoc's slogans in George Orwell's 1984.

Posted by: John C [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 9, 2008 8:44 AM

"This is race-baiting fearmongering. Fearmongering is Islamophobia. Islamophobia is hate."

War Is Peace; Freedom Is Slavery; Igorance Is Strength.

Posted by: John C [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 9, 2008 8:49 AM

Please can they mention the 4 male muslim witnesses required for a rape conviction and murdering gay people as part of Sharia.

Then ask CAIR for a comment.

Posted by: Celsius [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 9, 2008 8:50 AM

Typo; should read, "Ignorance Is Strength."

Posted by: John C [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 9, 2008 8:53 AM

Good luck to any kuffar who has any kind of dispute with a Muslim man under sharia - even if it's "only" a civil law dispute. You think you own your home and your cattle of whatever? Well your testimony will count for nothing under sharia law unless you're a believer.

There was another dreadful whitewashing of Sharia on the National Geographic Channel the other night. Anyone else see it?

Posted by: Jan Sobieski [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 9, 2008 8:59 AM

The UAC does excellent work. The organization needs more members!

Posted by: Always On Watch [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 9, 2008 9:09 AM

we need billboards like these in every town in the country. before sharia forbids them....

Posted by: theygottago [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 9, 2008 9:23 AM

Hmm... CAIR must be sleeping in, this morning.

These guys are in Central Florida? I gotta check them out!

Posted by: Abscedere [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 9, 2008 9:24 AM

Let me guess--CAIR's response: "This is race-baiting fearmongering. Feamongering is Islamophobia. Islamophobia is hate."
by John C

Not just CAIR. There are bound to be many groups, not all of them Muslim, that will view this message, in and of itself, as hate speech.

Posted by: PMK [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 9, 2008 9:26 AM

I'd be willing to bet that the billboard will never go up. If it does, everyone who is even remotely connected to it will be sued or threatened and publicly labeled as racist, intolerant, islamophobic, etc. Wouldn't surprise me if their tax-exempt status were challenged.

I do think it is about time that this step be taken and I fully support it. I'm not particularly familiar with the UAC, but I'm going to their website to get familiar right now.

Posted by: cumulusnine [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 9, 2008 9:28 AM


"Gee, this Islamist playbook is so predictable!" --John C

Oh yeah. I've reached the point where if someone starts in with that BS I say "Nope. You got it backwards. The Koran is a racist/bigoted Hate Book that commands the subjugation or mass-murder of all non-Islamic peoples, Mohammed is a false prophet, allah is a pagan moon deity that doesn't exist, and hate-filled Islam is 100% intolerant of all other religions. Islam deserves to be hated and despised as it is Fascism in a religion's guise."

So there, CAIR!

Posted by: darcy [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 9, 2008 9:32 AM

RENT a billboard. They must be kidding! The company that rents the billboard to them, those who advertise with the billboard company that rents to them, will be given the I.B.T. (Islamic Bully Treatent) I'll bet it never happens.

We have nothing to fear but fear itself. Unfortunately, Islam's weapon of choice IS 'fear itself'.

Posted by: poetcomic1 [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 9, 2008 9:34 AM

The folks (apostates) at islam-watch.org have long said that the best way to confront Islam is to simply tell the truth about it.

Posted by: The Cool Ghoul [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 9, 2008 9:36 AM

It's about time more people are educated on Sharia Law. I'm suprised the American Criminal Liberties Union isn't coming out to prevent these billboards. I'm sure it won't be long. Kudos to the group putting out these billboards...I just wish it were nationwide. Ask the average person what Sharia Law is, they'll look at you dumbfounded. We need to educate more on the horrors of Sharia Law no different than the Nuremberg Laws of the nazis, in many ways worse.

Posted by: Marc [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 9, 2008 9:44 AM

Sharia law, along with the other compassionate teachings of islam, has been responsible for more deaths than Hitler ever dreamed of.

Posted by: ImNoDhimmi [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 9, 2008 10:26 AM

From the article:

"Under Sharia law if you are accused of stealing, a hand and foot from opposite sides are amputated."

That is not true; UAC has confused 5:33 with 5:38.

5:33
The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger, and strive with might and main for mischief through the land is: execution, or crucifixion, or the cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides, or exile from the land: that is their disgrace in this world, and a heavy punishment is theirs in the Hereafter;

5:38
As to the thief, Male or female, cut off his or her hands: a punishment by way of example, from Allah, for their crime: and Allah is Exalted in power.

In this case, however, such an error is not a bad thing.

What are Muslims going to do? Explain to Ma and Pa America when, under what circumstances, and by what authority, the punitive amputation of a fellow human being's hands or feet may be conducted?

Posted by: PRCS [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 9, 2008 11:12 AM

Simple but memorable. It also helps differentiate Sharia supporting Muslims (ie the equivalent of the KKK) and non-political Muslims who respect religious freedom and the separation of Church and State.

Someone needs to produce a bunch of bumper stickers to spread the message.

My only criticism of the group is that their web site is too cluttered to discover why sharia law is hate. There needs to be a simple and well documented web site which outlines why Sharia Law is hatred and thus an evil system to be shunned by all people of good will.

Posted by: James Martel [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 9, 2008 11:52 AM

Nail on the head.
Verbal confrontation is what America is about.

Posted by: confused [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 9, 2008 12:07 PM

According to the Islamic law text, Reliance of the Traveller [sic], the penalty for theft is:

"A person's right hand is amputated, whether he is a Muslim, non-Muslim subject of the Islamic state, or someone who has left Islam, when he: (a) has reached puberty; (b) is sane; (c) is acting voluntarily; (d) steals at least a quarter of a dinar (n: 1.058 grams of gold) or goods worth that much (A: at the market prices current) at the time of the theft... If a person steals a second time, his left foot is amputated; if a third time, then his left hand; and if he steals again, then his right foot. If he steals a fifth time, he is disciplined (def:017 [to the extent the caliph deems appropriate])." (section o14.1)

At current market prices, 1.058 grams of gold is worth approximately $30 - that is roughly the value of two DVDs or eight gallons of gasoline.

Just feel the love of Sharia. I suspect Muslims would prefer that infidels and kafirs remain ignorant about Sharia law, too.

Posted by: Bad_Attitude_Infidel [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 9, 2008 12:12 PM

Kudos for the effort but the slogan, "Sharia is Hate" is too simplistic and in the worse case, misleading. Hate is an emotion, often caused by misconceptions or fear and can often be alleviated with education and understanding. (Kumbayah anyone?) Sharia is much more sinister and too dangerous to glibbly label as, "hate".

Sharia is Subjugation.
Sharia is Supremacy.
Sharia is Barbarianism.

"Hate" is just the appropriate emotional response towards this scourge.

Posted by: Xero G [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 9, 2008 12:17 PM

I can't believe what I am reading from some of you on this post. The ONLY orginization I know of in the U.S. with the balls to do something like this and most of the posts are critical and full of pessimism.

I guess they should just roll over and give up since it's obvious it is doomed before it even begins....

Good thing they don't take advice from jihadwatch.org posters.

Instead of being the worlds greatest armchair critics, get your a**es up from behind your keyboards and put your necks out on the line for this issue.

These guys go out into the community, are active and vocal, taking the issue on. At the very least donate to the UAC, which I personally do within my means.

If more jihadwatch readers had the courage these few people did, the public would wake up very quickly.

Please, put up or shut up...

here is the site:

http://www.unitedamericancommittee.org/

Posted by: adobe [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 9, 2008 12:41 PM

Adobe -
We ARE with them but we know what to expect AND we know how EVERY word matters and 'hate' is a BAD choice of language. By far the better choice is to intrigue the reader and then give a website with simple and irrefutable FACTS simply stated.

Maybe "ISLAMIC SHARIA - Why It's Worse For You and Your Family then 9/11" A point often made on this site by Robert and others.

Posted by: poetcomic1 [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 9, 2008 12:55 PM

Adobe,

After providing the UAC with a $100.00 donation in April 2007, I received a book, a pin, and a flag.

And not a word from them since.

Thanks anyway.

Posted by: PRCS [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 9, 2008 1:02 PM

I think one part of the statement of that rep for the UAE is inaccurate, he said--

"Under Sharia law ...If you are caught having an affair, the woman is stoned to death and the man is given 80 lashes."

It's my understanding that in sharia law they make a distinction between unmarried sex (fornication) and sex where one or both partners are married to someone else (adultery). Take for example the sharia penal code for Muslim Nigeria, where you can see down the line the punishment if you're not married is not death, but it is death if married:

Shari'ah Penal Code 2000:

Selected Provisions

Sections 126-127 Sex:

- Unmarried: 100 lashes + 1 year in prison

- Married: stoning to death (rajm)

Sections 128-129 Rape:

- Unmarried: 100 lashes + 1 year in prison

- Married: stoning to death (rajm)

- In either case: payment to woman of dower (of equals if unmarried)

Sections 130-131 Sodomy (Liwat):

- Unmarried: 100 lashes + 1 year in prison

- Married: stoning to death (rajm)

Sections 132-133 Incest:

- Unmarried: 100 lashes + 1 year in prison

- Married: stoning to death (rajm)

http://www.irb-cisr.gc.ca/en/research/rir/?action=record.viewrec&gotorec=434272

Also from that website it looks like both men and women are stoned to death where applicable, not just women.

Posted by: DenverRodeo [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 9, 2008 1:32 PM

Instead of a billboard saying Sharia Law Is Hate, which could be attacked as biased or subjective, wouldn't it be more defensible if the billboards just state the most offensive aspects of Sharia?
It should consist only of a few one line examples of the most eggregious pronouncements of Sharia.
For example:

Under Sharia Law ........(fill in the blank)
Want to live under Sharia Law?

Sharia Law requires ......
Do you want Sharia Law?

Sharia Law states that .......
Would you care if we have Sharia Law in America?

And so on. You can fill in the details and come up with several examples.

Then it would be interesting to see from which direction the pro-Islamic groups would attack.
I know they are very creative in identifying offense and insult.

Posted by: norman [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 9, 2008 1:33 PM

I'm with "adobe." I like the slogan, "Sharia law is hate." It's simple and to the point. Slogans are for getting attention, not for being technically accurate, and this one does it well. Count me in.

Posted by: Wellington [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 9, 2008 2:11 PM

This is a great idea and well past time. Educating our fellow Infidels about Islam is the single most important task required of us to win this conflict of ideologies.

With the above fact in mind, how many of you pass on the knowledge you have gained about Islam to your fellow countrymen – knowledge that is critical to our collective survival?

When I became aware of the threat of Islam, after reading 10+ books (and studying 5 different translations of the Qur’an, to make sure the meaning was the same) I tried to inform as many people as I could. I became quickly frustrated by (among other things) the short attention span of many listeners and the limited time available. I also found I was frequently unable to efficiently convey enough of the core tenets of Islam to illustrate the magnitude of the threat in the minds of many people. I would begin with their attention, but all to soon their eyes would begin to glaze over.

I decided what was required was a 2 sided leaflet, something that is short enough that most people would read, yet with enough well organized, concentrated information to make an impression. A lot of effort was put into selection of content, format and presentation. With this tool, the need for urgency in the conversation is eliminated, all that is required is a pleasant casual conversation, just enough to pique interest. Your carefully crafted paper, read by your acquaintance, in private, at his leisure, does the heavy lifting. I carry several copies of 2 leaflets, one on the Qur’an and one on Muhammad (folded so they fit neatly into a back pocket) wherever I go.

The first leaflet is mainly about the content of the Qur’an. The second leaflet explains how the Qur’an came into being and who and what Muhammad was.

The first leaflet ”Three Questions for Infidels” has a short intro with the question “Why do they hate us?” followed by 20 quotes from the Qur’an. These are: 9:111, 47:4, 4:38, 9:5(verse of the sword), 9:123, 4:91, 3:114, 3:195, 2:189, 4:76, 5:56, 8:12, 8:39, 8:58, 8:67, 9:23, 9:29, 9:33, 9:41, 47:35. The reader is encouraged to purchase a Qur’an and verify for himself what he has just read. The final question is “Have the Islamic terrorists radicalized Islam - or is it the other way around?”

The second leaflet is a biography of Muhammad “The Perfect Man” and “The Model of Conduct”. This includes among other things, his “marriage” to 9 year old Aisha, the beheading of the men of the Banu Qurayzah and taking their women and children as slaves, various assassinations, several torture events, and several rapes committed by Muhammad. Also included is a description of the legalization of the rape of married women “All married women are forbidden unto you save those (captives) whom your right had possesses…” 4:28. Material in both leaflets is taken strictly from Islamic sources (Qur’an, “Sirat Rasul Allah” and various Hadith).

I do not have the heavy artillery of speaking engagements, or a web site, or a book to awaken people to this threat on a large scale. Even if I had these resources I have neither the developed skill nor the time to use them. What I can use is the literary equivalent of a rifle, for single point targets of my choosing.

An example of how this works: I recently encountered several young men, by chance, in a gas station. They said they were backpacking from Mexico to Canada. I was facinated with their adventure and we struck up a conversation. At one point I asked them if they knew much about Islam. The response was the typical "uuuh, well no, not really". So I explained my study of Islam and produced the leaflets.

Several young men, with my leaflets and a LOT of time to read and reflect - perfect!

My motto is “spreading the word of Muhammad, one Infidel at a time”. It is not on the scale of Spencer or Fitzgerald, but is something that I can do when I am “out and about” and I find it very satisfying.

If anyone would like a copy of these, email me by clicking the TypeKey Profile button just to the right of “davegreybeard”


Posted by: Davegreybeard [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 9, 2008 2:36 PM

Perfect focus, Daveygreybeard--elegantly simple tracts, with references cited and resources given! Deus vult!

Posted by: John C [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 9, 2008 3:59 PM

I have donated to UAC several times. They do good work and yes they stick their necks out for all of us.
Please donate to this cause...This is one way we
can be proactive !
UAC has bought books on Islam and passed them out to our military and civilians alike. Please go to the website and give what you can.
Just writing and passing the news out isnt enough we must do everything we can to educate our countrymen and the world.

Posted by: terise [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 9, 2008 4:25 PM

A good slogan... easy to take in and worry about...

I'm working on "THe West has tried Sharia; it was called the Inquisition."

Posted by: jewcat [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 9, 2008 6:58 PM

After they learn what Sharia law is they might be taught how many muslims approve of sharia law and want it to replace their constitution. One step at a time.

Posted by: pismopal [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 9, 2008 7:47 PM

@Jan-
Yes I saw the NG "version" of inside the Koran---After watching that I realized that I should of been so "grateful" for the Muslims in bringing the uncivilized world Medicine, Science, Math etc!!!! NOTTTTTTTTTTTT!!!!! Wow what a load of ****

Posted by: Ladywolfnl [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 9, 2008 8:15 PM

Thanks John C, just doing what I’m supposed to be doing.

“The world is a dangerous place, not because of those who do evil, but because of those who look on and do nothing.”
Albert Einstein

I refuse to “look on and do nothing”

DEUS VULT!

Posted by: Davegreybeard [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 9, 2008 8:36 PM

Wafa Sultan on Sharia
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uM4ODjVMc2s

8 min. video - give it a rating and pass it along!

Posted by: Infidel's Delight [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 9, 2008 10:57 PM

Davegreybeard: I admire your fighting spirit and ingenuity. My compliments.

Posted by: Wellington [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 9, 2008 11:13 PM

I'd be willing to bet that the billboard will never go up. If it does, everyone who is even remotely connected to it will be sued or threatened and publicly labeled as racist, intolerant, islamophobic, etc. Wouldn't surprise me if their tax-exempt status were challenged.

I do think it is about time that this step be taken and I fully support it. I'm not particularly familiar with the UAC, but I'm going to their website to get familiar right now.

Posted by: cumulusnine at August 9, 2008 9:28 AM


The County will be tasked with determining if this billboard can stand in the 'spirit' of diversity *PC* , not to mention the issues that will certainly arise due to allegations of inverse condemnation by the original or current land owner/lessor. Now, if the billboard is on privately owned land and is leased by the publisher of this piece with the agreement of the owner of the land... Let's hope that the Florida Sunshine Law will protect the privacy and identity of the landowner. We mustn't rile the moslems, you know. They tend to blow things and people up when they are angry.

Posted by: Laughs_at_Silly_Jihadis [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 9, 2008 11:15 PM

Dave

well done.

You'll be hearing from me soon.

My feeling about Australia is that because there are only 20 million of us (compared to the USA's 300+ million) we *ought* to 'get' the counter-jihad counter-sharia message a whole hell of a lot quicker, once the Australian counter-jihadists really get to work on the whistle-blowing.

Posted by: dumbledoresarmy [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 10, 2008 2:53 AM

"Let's hope that the Florida Sunshine Law will protect the privacy and identity of the landowner.

Posted by: Laughs_at_Silly_Jihadis

We can hope that, but we've seen that Muslims aren't too particular about whom they attack. If the real "culprit" can't be found, any najis Kaffir will do.

Posted by: Abscedere [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 10, 2008 10:10 AM

I'm still in favor of the billboard, though. The wording is right, for the puropose. If I knew nothing about Sharia, I would, after seeing this billboard, be curious enough to find out about it.

Posted by: Abscedere [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 10, 2008 10:24 AM

An organization in Florida plans to educate what it perceives as an increasingly culture-tolerant public about the horrific dictates of Islamic law by purchasing billboard space with a simple, but confrontational message: "Sharia law is hate."
................................

You can certainly debate whether "Sharia law is hate" is the best slogan ("Islamo-fascism" is not a perfect sobriquet, either), or whether Sharia is practiced with exactly the same penalties in each country, but I think the billboard idea is nevertheless a great place to start.

And I agree--I would love to see those debates--no, Shari'ah law in Nigeria only enforces stoning in the case of pregnant women--including rape victims! And, stealing may not be punished by double amputation--if the perpetrator is under nine years of age in some places, he will only have his hand run over by a motor vehicle! And if the stealing takes place during highway robbery in Saudi Arabia, the thief may be crucified! Now all this, no doubt, would reassure Infidels no end.

I'm going to contact the Central Florida chapter of the United American Committee, and see if they would like someone to mock up designs for those billboards--pro bono, of course.

Posted by: gravenimage [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 10, 2008 9:42 PM

1. I am strongly in favor of the billboard, with its current wording. As Wellington said, the purpose of a slogan is to attract attention, not to be technically accurate.

2. UAC will definitely be sued over this, probably before the billboard even goes up. I hope that they are prepared.

3. Those of you with better memories than me, please help me out here. Didn't someone try to put up a billboard a few years ago depicting the Statue of Liberty covered with a robe and a veil? I'm not certain, but I seem to recall that muslims used legal action to successfully block the billboard before it went up. Did that happen, or is my memory playing tricks on me?

Posted by: shortfattexan [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 11, 2008 9:21 AM

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