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August 13, 2008

Lebanon: bus blast kills 18

Just another jihadi bus bombing from "Dar al-Salam." "18 dead in Lebanon bomb blast," from the Associated Press, August 13:

A bomb has exploded near a bus carrying civilians and members of the military in the northern city of Tripoli, killing 18 people and wounding 46 others.

Officials say the dead included 10 off-duty soldiers.

The officials said the bomb was planted on the side of a road and went off when the bus passed by, causing the casualties. They said the explosion happened as the streets were filled with people heading to work, which contributed to the many injuries.[...]

There was no immediate word on who was behind the explosion.

Tripoli is Lebanon's second-largest city with a mostly Sunni Muslim population.

Wasn't always like that. In fact, Lebanon was long known as the "Paris" of the Middle East -- but that was when it was a Christian majority.
It has witnessed sectarian clashes between Sunni fighters and followers of the Alawite sect, an offshoot Shiite sect, in the past weeks that killed and wounded dozens of people.

The city is also close to the Palestinian refugee camp of Nahr el-Bared, which experienced deadly clashes last year between Lebanese troops and members of the al Qaida -inspired Fatah Islam group that left hundreds dead before the militants were defeated.

Al-Qaeda "inspired" groups have also been waging a jihad against the Christians of Lebanon.

Fatah Islam group has claimed responsibility for a bomb blast that killed a soldier in Abdeh near Tripoli on May 31.

Posted by Raymond at August 13, 2008 9:14 AM
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Lebanon was long known as the "Paris" of the Middle East -- but that was when it was a Christian majority.

i think it is like paris, with all muslim immigrants causing trouble. its only a matter a time before something like this happens against parisians.

Posted by: theygottago [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 13, 2008 9:44 AM

The Lebanese Civil War saw intense infighting between an array of Muslim militias - though the secular Left is no longer a power player in the Islamic world, get ready for more of same. Saddam is gone in Iraq and Mush is hanging on by his fingernails in Pakistan so the 'secular Islamic strongmen' (the most powerful and dangerous players in the Islamic world)are history. By undermining the conditions to create a ruthless and unifying strongman, the Islamic world has laid a framework for anarchic chaos. You won't see me complaining.

Posted by: poetcomic1 [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 13, 2008 9:44 AM

The article explains nothing. It does not explain that Sunni Muslims and Alawites share the city; that the former outnumber the latter 10 to 1; that the two groups have been fighting; that the Alawites in Tripoli are perceived to be, rightly or wrongly, agents of hated Syria, the Syria that supports Hezbollah, which in turn supports Syria and its patron Iran; that the Sunnis in question are not all splendid fellows, Lebanese patriots attacking Syrian agents, but in some cases fanatical Sunni Muslims who dislike the Alawites not only for their alliance with Syria but becaues they see those Alawites as non-Muslims, and so on.

That is the level of the Associated Press. But it is also the level of almost all of the idiotic because out-of-context, stripped-down-to-"just the-facts"-which-make-no-sense-of-anything, that is now what almost all reporting on the Middle East, or Islam, turns out to be.

No wonder newspapers are failing. It's not just craigslist or other websites, taking away advertising. One cannot find intelligent guides to any of the most important matters, and readers sense it.

Posted by: Hugh [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 13, 2008 10:08 AM

I'm afraid that Paris is on the way to becoming the "Beirut of Europe".

Posted by: ebonystone [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 13, 2008 10:15 AM

I'm sure Hugh or another JW poster has commented/explained this before, but what caught my attention was the reference to the Nahr el-Bared Palestinian refugee camp. How can someone be a refugee from a country that never existed? And why are there still such refugee camps? I'm sure their fellow Arab/Muslim brothers and sisters in countries like Saudi Arabia, Dubai, etc can use these "Palestinian" refugees to build indoor ski slopes or something.

Posted by: HOV Dummy [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 13, 2008 11:25 AM

A few points about these so-called "refugee camps."

In the first place, the Arabs who live in them live on the seemingly permanent UNRWA dole. No one dies and gets off the dole, but all kinds of Arabs who were never refugees manage to get on the list. The whole operation has, for the past few decades, been run entirely by and for Arabs, instead of by objective civil servants (compare the early days, and what Rees, the Adviser on Refugees for the World Council of Churches, wrote in 1957 about the "Arab refugee" problem).

Nor are these "refugee camps" simply tent cities. They are cities, regular cities, with shops, with even -- as in Gaza -- DVD stores. Do you think the real refugee camps, in Chad and Ethiopia and parts of the Sudan, or anywhere else, have DVD stores? Let's not fall for this nonsense.

The phrase, however, and the fact that so-called recently-renamed "'Palestinian' Arabs" live in certain places, and are, by Lebanese law, forbidden from working outside those camps (supplying one more excuse for Infidel taxpayers, through UNRWA, to keep supporting these Arabs indefinitely), does win sympathy, a diseased sympathy, from much of the credulous Western world.

These "refugee camps" are a propagandistic weapon of the Lesser Jihad against Israel. It hardly matters what happens to the particular people in these places, whether or not they are condemned to lives of hatred and self-primitivization, for they are merely weapons in a larger war, not individuals. And few of them seem to recognize that they have a grudge, but their grudge should be directed at all their fellow Arabs and Muslims, especially those fabulously rich Arabs in Saudi Arabia and the Gulf who, with a flick of the wrist, could write a check transforming their existences, and permanently, and the bank account in question would hardly notice the loss.

Posted by: Hugh [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 13, 2008 11:56 AM

Will we see Paris and parts of Lebanon looking alike again and not in the way most would like to see, that is in a cesspool of islamic poverty and violence.

Posted by: ZenaWarriorPrincess [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 13, 2008 12:47 PM

Hugh:

Thanks for the information.

Posted by: HOV Dummy [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 13, 2008 3:27 PM

Look at what Kuwait did to their Palestinian population. They were kicked out. So much what Arabs do for other Arabs. Rich Kuwait, Rich Saudi, but they only care for themselves.
This must bring back bad memory's for Brigette Gabriel. People who have not lived through a war themselves should read her book "Because they hate".

Posted by: Maria [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 13, 2008 4:00 PM

Look at what Kuwait did to their Palestinian population. They were kicked out. So much what Arabs do for other Arabs. Rich Kuwait, Rich Saudi, but they only care for themselves.
This must bring back bad memory's for Brigette Gabriel. People who have not lived through a war themselves should read her book "Because they hate".

Posted by: Maria [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 13, 2008 4:00 PM

Look at what Kuwait did to their Palestinian population. They were kicked out. So much what Arabs do for other Arabs. Rich Kuwait, Rich Saudi, but they only care for themselves.
This must bring back bad memory's for Brigette Gabriel. People who have not lived through a war themselves should read her book "Because they hate".

Posted by: Maria [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 13, 2008 4:00 PM

The degenerate Rice had rescued the Hezbollah jihadists from Israel with her UN cease-fire resolution exactly 2 years ago. Now, there's no one to save Lebanon's Christians from Hezbollah. The same degenerate Rice that kept cheerleading Georgia into the war throughout last month, and ended up cheerleading it into another Bay of Pigs, only bloodier.

Ruslan Tokhchukov, EnragedSince1999.

Posted by: Enragedsince1999 [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 13, 2008 4:28 PM

HOV Dummy - and anyone else who wants an interesting alternative perspective on the so-called 'palestinian refugees' and their 'camps' - click on the following link.

It will take you to redoubtable journalist Martha Gellhorn's classic report upon "The Arabs of Palestine", published in Atlantic Monthly in 1961, that is, six years *before* the Six Day War.

http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/196110/gellhorn

She gives an account of the state of affairs in Gaza - then ruled by EGYPT, and which she describes as a prison; of the state of mind of the 'refugees' under Jordanian rule; of those so-called 'camps' in Lebanon, and certain distinctions in attitude between the Arabised Christians and the Arab Muslims (though both were filled with a poisonous Judenhass); and her account of conversations with 'Arabs', both Christian and Muslim, living within Israel.

As you read it, bear in mind also this: Martha was in Spain, even in Madrid, during the height of the Spanish Civil War (she was one of Hemingway's lovers). She had visited Nazi Germany just prior to the outbreak of war; and she had visited Germany again, just after the German defeat, and had witnessed the immediate aftermath of that war, its ruined cities and thousands of displaced persons and how they lived; she had entered Dachau, shortly after it was opened and its survivors liberated.

She knew what a truly vicious war looks like, what real refugees look like (people who have barely escaped from ruin and mass murder) and what the real Shoah looked like.

Bear that in mind.

Posted by: dumbledoresarmy [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 13, 2008 7:36 PM

Welcome to Dal Al Suicide Bombing!

Posted by: American [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 14, 2008 11:08 AM

It should be called Hezbollahstan soon as Hezbollah is running the country, attacking it at times and defending it from Hezbollah at other times.

Posted by: American [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 14, 2008 11:12 AM

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