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August 19, 2008

Philippines: "rogue Muslims" burn houses, slaughter civilians

More on this story. "Rogue Muslims raid villages," from Times Online, August 19:

Manila Muslim rebels in the Philippines attacked several towns, killing at least 26 people and displacing 7,000.

The raids triggered a swift military response and raised doubts over whether the guerrilla movement was in control of its fighters.

According to Ibn Taymiyya -- "Sheikh al-Islam" -- the jihadist is under no one's authority, once the jihad is in full swing: "All Islamic lands are one umma. There must be a general call to arms, without requiring permission from the father nor any other opposition," (from The Al Qaeda Reader, 93).
Up to 500 Moro Islamic Liberation Front rebels raided towns in Lanao del Norte province, burning houses and shooting or hacking civilians to death. Troops reacted with tanks and helicopter gunships. A rebel leader said that the attack was carried out without his knowledge.

Posted by Raymond at August 19, 2008 8:48 AM
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Good article from the Manilla Bulletin today:

Defend every inch of territory – GMA

President deplores treacherous attacks by rebels
Defend every inch of territory, says President

http://www.mb.com.ph/MAIN20080819132868.html

Posted by: Mackie [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 19, 2008 9:34 AM

Wherever a minority of Muslims concentrate and initate land seizure and terror...they must be humiliated, dispersed, oppressed and ruthlessly dealt with. Any mosque where radical teachings are secretly recorded should be immediately leveled and the practice of Islam hedged around with controls and closely monitored. The open support in word or deed of separatism shall be punishable as treason against the government of the Philippines. Treason. Yes. The model of defense must be based on the body fighting vicious microbes.

Posted by: poetcomic1 [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 19, 2008 9:52 AM

The article that I posted above appears to reflect a misunderstanding if not ignorance of what drives the MILF and other Islamic faction that have been attacking Mindanao citizens over the past 25 years.

Calling them common criminals or thinking they can reach peaceful accords with these people is not going to happen with the exception of an occassional hudna.

Note the word jihadists or Islamists Etc. is absent in both articles, calling them rogue Muslims gives the impression that they are acting completely separate from the Islamic Ideology of jihad.

As usual the inability to define your enemy for what he really is deflects from the real image that defines the MILF.

Posted by: Mackie [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 19, 2008 10:20 AM

The open support in word or deed of separatism shall be punishable as treason against the government of the Philippines.

But what do we do with those who merely avert their eyes or cover their ears? They are the overwhelming number. Those who give refuge to the separatists while claiming innocence are just as much a danger. Every separatist is someone's family member. Family members and friends are likely to feign ignorance about what is being done right under their noses. Unless they are caught with the smoking gun or bomb set to go off, they are free to support terrorists, all the while saying things like: but he's my son!

Posted by: PMK [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 19, 2008 10:24 AM

Yea, what poetcomic1 said.

Posted by: undaunted [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 19, 2008 10:24 AM

"calling them rogue Muslims gives the impression that they are acting completely separate from the Islamic Ideology of jihad."

Posted by: Mackie

Right you are! The headline should read "Muslim rogues raid villages".

Posted by: ebonystone [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 19, 2008 10:41 AM

"The raids raised doubts over whether the guerilla movement was in control of its fighters."
You have all read and heard of criminal enterprises being run by a gang leader serving a life sentence in prison who calls the shots. In this case, the biggest gang of all is being run from hell by a leader who died over 1200 years ago.

Posted by: Karl2 [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 19, 2008 10:57 AM

Right you are! The headline should read "Muslim rogues raid villages".


Posted by: ebonystone

How about "Muslims raid villages".

Posted by: Spot on [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 19, 2008 11:00 AM

Wouldn't a rogue Moslem be an apostate?

Posted by: tanstaafl [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 19, 2008 11:07 AM

A mosque is not established by a colony of muslims. A colony of muslims is established by a mosque.

'If you build it, they will come'.

Headline: Philippines: "rogue Muslims" burn houses, slaughter civilians...

This is Islam, this is what and who it is. It has once again shown its true face.

The mosque is where it resides.
A mosque is more than a building to have meetings in, it is an satellite of Mekka. A trip to the local mosque is a mini-hajj.
A beacon for muslims, shining with the light of fatal attraction.
Fatal for kufrs preferably.

Besides chasing these terrorists around, the Philippine gov should close and doze all mosques, and prevent the building of new ones.
A muslim without a mosque is confused and bewildered, not really in the right condition to conduct jihad. This does not mean the MILF will give up, but it will injure the Islamic part of their motivation. Western governments should do the same thing...But the PC is too strong to allow it...at this time...Maybe later...
Don't put your eggs in Obama's basket, it has a hole in the bottom...

Posted by: duh_swami [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 19, 2008 11:23 AM

"Dishonest, unprincipled Muslims" burn houses, slaughter civilians.

The true meaning of "rogue", where people are concerned.

The other refers to animals, like elephants. A rogue elephant is a vicious animal that has been driven from the herd. When have any of these supposedly wayward Muslims not been welcome at the mosque or in their local community?

Posted by: PMK [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 19, 2008 11:32 AM

But what do we do with those who merely avert their eyes or cover their ears? They are the overwhelming number. Those who give refuge to the separatists while claiming innocence are just as much a danger. Every separatist is someone's family member.

PMK

In our army, we have only a small percentage that are on the front lines in combat. The rest of the army is supporting the fighters. What you have just stated says basically the same thing about Muslims. A small percentage of Jihadists (fighters) and the rest of the Muslims support them.

Posted by: Spot on [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 19, 2008 11:41 AM

Duh_Swami

I agree. Mosques must be closed as they are simply command and control modules for the jihad. We must judge Islam by it's history. It is a political movement that masks itself as a religion.

Posted by: tanstaafl [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 19, 2008 12:04 PM

Spot On,
That's right. So why can't the rules they apply toward us be thrown right back at them?
We heard after 9/11 that the people who worked in the WTC were valid targets because their work supported "the American system".
So why do we have to bend over backwards to avoid killing civilians? In their eyes, no non-Muslim is a civilian, while just about every jihadist IS.
Based on the tenets of Islam, every Muslim is a soldier, even the infants. Remember the baby formula-explosives.

Posted by: PMK [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 19, 2008 12:21 PM

Yea, what poetcomic1 said.

But what do we do with those who merely avert their eyes or cover their ears? They are the overwhelming number. Those who give refuge to the separatists while claiming innocence are just as much a danger. Every separatist is someone's family member. Family members and friends are likely to feign ignorance about what is being done right under their noses. Unless they are caught with the smoking gun or bomb set to go off, they are free to support terrorists, all the while saying things like: but he's my son!
Posted by: PMK

hear hear!

Posted by: theygottago [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 19, 2008 12:29 PM

PMK

You are absolutely correct. It is so simple and yet our leaders cannot connect the dots. The Islamic people are playing our leaders like a fiddle. Nothing we are doing seems to make much sense. Everything they are doing makes a lot of sense, however perverted.

Posted by: Spot on [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 19, 2008 12:43 PM

"Rogue" moslems in pakistan disfigure women. Please view with caution. Seeing these pictures can cause extreme disgust and rage. Not for the faint-of-heart.

http://www.repubblica.it/2006/05/gallerie/esteri/donne-sfregiate/1.html

Posted by: Ummah Gummah [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 19, 2008 1:08 PM

Mosques must be closed as they are simply command and control modules for the jihad. We must judge Islam by it's history. It is a political movement that masks itself as a religion.
Posted by: tanstaafl

This is the pre-dawn light that must shine on the PC media market, to understand that it is NOT a religion but a world Cult, masking itself as religion, which it is not.

The only rational response to this growing cancer is to excise it, literally, starting with the mosques and madrassas. Why should we give tax preference to political organizations devoted to our destruction? Cut them off and apply chemo to Sharia.

Posted by: Battle_of_Tours [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 19, 2008 1:39 PM

The common denominator is not M.I.L.F., it is the religion.

Ban the religion and crush the uprising.

Push them into the sea....pray rugs don't float.

Posted by: alaskan1000 [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 19, 2008 2:10 PM

I believe you ment, 'Regular muslims', not 'rogue muslims'. Must be a typo.

Posted by: HotSpur [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 19, 2008 2:23 PM

It's too bad we will never learn of any sort of motive these 'rogues' might have had for doing such a thing, hmmm...

And of course the more they may claim this in the name of Islam, the more it can't be linked to Islam. Beautiful!

Posted by: Grafted [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 19, 2008 2:56 PM

Is it possible to have some 'Rogue' U.S. Marines go kick some a**?

Or settle on 'rogue' Phillipine citizens, or 'rogue' Christians.

How bout a 'rogue' F-22 dropping a 'rogue' smart bomb?

Posted by: alaskan1000 [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 19, 2008 3:04 PM

Aren't most of them sort of rougish anyways? This is bs, "rogue" impies that they are acting on their own, tehy are all in cahoots. Reminds me of the endless "cycles of violence" in Israel

Posted by: MorrisMinor [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 19, 2008 3:15 PM

Is it possible to have some 'Rogue' U.S. Marines go kick some a**?
Posted by: alaskan1000

Not unless we offer them more protection than we did those "rogue" border agents and those "rogue" MPs at Abu Ghraib.

No one should do it without a guarantee in writing that the US government won't kick THEIR a** under the bus.

Posted by: PMK [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 19, 2008 4:19 PM

From the article:

"A rebel leader said that the attack was carried out without his knowledge."

I don't believe him and no intelligent Filipino kafir should, either.

It's just the old Mecca/ Medina goodcop/ badcop 'moderate'/ 'extremist' game, the one-two punch to confuse the Infidels with a little plausible deniability.

Posted by: dumbledoresarmy [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 19, 2008 6:02 PM

People

there was quite a bit of coverage of these developments on the Australian Broadcasting Commission (that's what 'ABC' means if you're an Australian) news online, re. the Philippines Jihad.

I fired them off to Mr Spencer about an hour ago, but I'll put them up here anyway, as they give a lot of extra details to the story posted above.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/08/19/2339488.htm?section=justin

If you read the first one, you'll notice our old friend 'restive' being used to describe a region that would be better described as "jihad-wracked".

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/08/19/2340114.htm?section=justin

There is a line in the second story that could have come right out of the mouth of an IDF soldier:

"You all know we have bent as far backward (as possible) to give peace a chance," military chief General Alexander Yano said.
"The patience of our soldiers, in trying to uphold the primacy of the peace process, is very commendable but at some point we really have to act decisively."


I get the impression that the non-Muslim Filipinos have about had enough.

Reuters concludes the second report with the observation: "A further bout of violence is expected following such a decision but an all-out war is not considered likely as neither side has the resources to deliver a knockout blow."

Seems to me then that it's about time other kafir countries made it possible for the Philippines - and, too, for India (the Jammu-Kashmir jihad), Israel (as regards Gaza), and Thailand - to deliver A DEVASTATING KNOCKOUT BLOW to the jihadists who are making life hell for kafir in the affected regions.


Posted by: dumbledoresarmy [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 19, 2008 6:25 PM
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