Indian Mujahideen's new e-mail threathens more attacks

http://www.ibnlive.com/news/indian-mujahideens-new-email--threathens-more-attacks/71989-3.html

The group sent a new hate mail to all TV channels hinting of more terror attacks in Gujarat and Maharashtra. Citing Quranic verses and warning non-believers, the mail declares that not even a single Mujahid ( person belonging to Indian Mujahideen) has been arrested till date.

Posted by: anti islamocommunist at August 24, 2008 4:28 AM

God Save USA and this PLANET from JIHAD

Posted by: Voice Of Jammu & Kashmir(India) at August 24, 2008 5:05 AM

Robert, whatever came about from your discussions last year with Justice Department officials? I trust you probably brought up some of the same questions listed above. Were high level government officials involved or was it mainly a "think tank" with bureaucratic hacks?

Posted by: Xero G at August 24, 2008 5:09 AM

Muslim Youths

Muslim youths are angry, frustrated and extremist because they have been mis-educated and de-educated by the British schooling. Muslim children are confused because they are being educated in a wrong place at a wrong time in state schools with non-Muslim monolingual teachers. They face lots of problems of growing up in two distinctive cultural traditions and value systems, which may come into conflict over issues such as the role of women in the society, and adherence to religious and cultural traditions. The conflicting demands made by home and schools on behaviour, loyalties and obligations can be a source of psychological conflict and tension in Muslim youngsters. There are also the issues of racial prejudice and discrimination to deal with, in education and employment. They have been victim of racism and bullying in all walks of life. According to DCSF, 56% of Pakistanis and 54% of Bangladeshi children has been victims of bullies. The first wave of Muslim migrants were happy to send their children to state schools, thinking their children would get a much better education. Than little by little, the overt and covert discrimination in the system turned them off. There are fifteen areas where Muslim parents find themselves offended by state schools.

The right to education in one’s own comfort zone is a fundamental and inalienable human right that should be available to all people irrespective of their ethnicity or religious background. Schools do not belong to state, they belong to parents. It is the parents’ choice to have faith schools for their children. Bilingual Muslim children need state funded Muslim schools with bilingual Muslim teachers as role models during their developmental periods. There is no place for a non-Muslim teacher or a child in a Muslim school. There are hundreds of state schools where Muslim children are in majority. In my opinion, all such schools may be designated as Muslim community schools. An ICM Poll of British Muslims showed that nearly half wanted their children to attend Muslim schools. There are only 143 Muslim schools. A state funded Muslim school in Birmingham has 220 pupils and more than 1000 applicants chasing just 60.

Majority of anti-Muslim stories are not about terrorism but about Muslim
culture--the hijab, Muslim schools, family life and religiosity. Muslims in the west ought to be recognised as a western community, not as an alien culture.
Iftikhar Ahmad
www.londonschoolofislamics.org.uk

Posted by: Iftikhar at August 24, 2008 5:16 AM

Spamming here too, Iftikhar?

Posted by: pr126 at August 24, 2008 5:30 AM

Question for Iftikhar?

Do you have an answer... why all the terrorists who have attacked India, USA, UK and else where highly educated and in some cases HARWARD graduates?

Dont these highly educated JIHADIS any obligation to muslim society if you think they are not getting proper education?

The truth is these higly educated Harward passout grads. are buzy planning terror attacks across WORLD.

The truth is more education to this Jihadi class is leading to more terror attacks in the world.

Posted by: Voice Of Jammu & Kashmir(India) at August 24, 2008 5:46 AM

Iftikhar,

Muslims in the west ought to be recognised as a western community, not as an alien culture.

Your statement represents the typical muslim objective of advocating islamic supremacy over non-muslim lands/countries. Islam is an "alien culture" to Westeners, and should be treated as such.

Islam is an ideology/belief system/cult that must be contained and restrained to the Arabian desert from whence it came. Islam has no place, no value, in Western civilization.

Your whole post (rant) above is so full of shit that you can't even see the forest for the trees.

If you want your muslim youth to be educated, to be integrated, to have meaningful and productive lives, then you have to leave the mental baggage of islam behind.

It's islam! Please, engage your brain before typing such complete nonsense!

Posted by: boneshack at August 24, 2008 5:59 AM

Iftikhar sez:
"There is no place for a non-Muslim teacher or a child in a Muslim school."

Why not? Are you afraid the Non Muslim teacher and/or Non Muslim child will see or hear something that is not intended for Infidel eyes or ears? Something that would prove that the Muslim schools teach things other than reading, writing, and arithmetic? Something that would prove their is a secret agenda that promotes jihad or anti-government, anti-social, anti-infidel activities? Maybe some fine courses in Taqqiyah, Dawa, Kitnah and Tu-quoquote? Maybe they would see or hear something that proves Muslims promote (behind closed doors..doors closed to Non Muslims)racism and anti-semetism that Muslims display around the world.

Just why do you think Non Muslim teacher or student should not be in Muslim schools?

Posted by: pulsar182 at August 24, 2008 7:13 AM

Iftikhar sez:

"Muslim youths are angry, frustrated and extremist because they have been mis-educated and de-educated by the British schooling."

Muslim youths are angry because they are taught to be angry by Islamic clerics and parents, They are frustrated because the Infidels do not agree with their views and refuse to submit to the myriad of asinine Muslim demands that are made every day, and they are extremist as they believe that violence is their destiny and their duty to enforce...their religion Islam, their laws , Shari'a law, and their evil holy text, the Qur'an are consistant in supporting violence against Non Muslims.

I agree Muslim youths are angry, frustrated and extremist..but it is because of Islam, not the Infidels..

Posted by: pulsar182 at August 24, 2008 7:24 AM

Iftikhar sez:

"Schools do not belong to state, they belong to parents"

Not in Muslim lands..

Posted by: pulsar182 at August 24, 2008 7:28 AM

.Iftikhar sez:

' Bilingual Muslim children need state funded Muslim schools with bilingual Muslim teachers as role models during their developmental periods.'

SEE what I am talking about..!

Muslim schools are state funded in Muslim lands, the schools do not belong to the parents..not legally.

Posted by: pulsar182 at August 24, 2008 7:37 AM

“Muslim youths are angry, frustrated and extremist because they have been mis-educated and de-educated by the British schooling”.

So the education system, which is geared to prepare the indigenous population for the 21st century and mores of western civilisation has the Muslim children confused.
Could this be due to the 7th century indoctrination by men with beards down at the local mosque giving it large with diametrically opposed values to the present.

I would heartily agree to your view that it’s not acceptable to inflict these values upon the fragile minds of the Muslim youth if this is the genuine feeling among the Muslim community, however it should be obvious that we have a square peg in a round hole situation here and the potential for a dire outcome in the years head where we face the prospect of an alien culture with alien values growing within our borders, no good can come of it. In any competition there must be a winner and it has been shown over the years just how far certain elements of the Muslim community are prepared to go to ensure victory in the cause of promoting Islam. You seem to be suggesting that this trend will continue unless things change to favour the Muslim community in whatever areas they deem worthy of change, this is a tactic we see reported woldwide in areas where Muslims propagate and prosper.
Perhaps the answer would be to promote the positive outcome of relocating those who feel marginalised, to places where the lifestyle and standards they crave are the norm.
I’m not suggesting the removal of Muslims in general, that’s ridiculous, I do however see an exodus of dedicated religious fundamentalist worshippers as a good deal for everyone in the long run. Unfortunately I do not feel particularly sympathetic to the prospect of the long suffering umma having to endure the trials and tribulations of living within a society which has its flaws, they are flaws which I can live with and are subject to change by legal means rather than the insidious methods employed by those who would have it otherwise.
I couldn’t care less about the supernatural belief system you follow or believe that Mohammed was the ‘perfect man’ what I do see is the havoc caused by the followers of Islam wherever they feel the urge and the continual denials that this havoc is the result of Islam or the words of Mohammed, while those who inflict their terror maintain otherwise.
Here’s a thought, take some advice from those experts at the Dragons Den, “take your product away and fix it, tone it down a bit, make it more consumer friendly and we’ll consider funding it”

Posted by: Jihadtobejoking at August 24, 2008 7:40 AM

Great questions Robert, that deserve honest patriotic replies, but I won't be holding my breath, unfortunately.

Posted by: Dsinc at August 24, 2008 7:53 AM

iftikhar

You've been placing this piece of verbal diarrhoea all over the internet. Every blog I visit contains the same sad old song. What's the matter? Run out of ideas?
For goodness sake, stick to the subject under discussion, which has nothing whatsoever to do with the imagined problems Mohammadans suffer in the UK. If the 'suffering' is too much to bear, you are free to depart to more suitable climes.

Posted by: Sencit at August 24, 2008 8:50 AM

Question for the candidates:

What books have you read about Islam in the last 7 years?

Posted by: Tancred1099 at August 24, 2008 10:50 AM

Not two hours ago I said I wouldn't be inundating this site with election news, but that could change if some interviewer or debate moderator had the good sense and chutzpah to ask Obama, McCain, Biden, or the Republican Vice Presidential nominee these questions

Read all five; you want to know what any of these people in Washington will tell you??

You want to know what any of the Presidential types running for office will tell you?

You already know what they will tell you!

But, in case you need confirmation -- here are the kinds of answers you will get. No, they won't be exactly worded like my answers, but they will be close enough. (BTW I do not agree with any of these answers!)

Answer 1:
National security and immigration are important issues to this administration. We feel that it is important to screen out extremists and will use all our available resources to protect our country while maintaining our freedoms. At the same time we will re-evaluate the trade status with rouge states to insure their compliance with the rule of law.

Answer 2: The Saudi’s have been a staunch ally of the United States and has instrumental in the war against terror. We will continue to work with our Saudi partners against extremists who are as much a threat to peace in their region as they are to the U.S.

Answer 3: Millions of peaceful, law abiding citizens take comfort in the peaceful religion called Islam. They are doctors, lawyers, teachers and citizens of substance and character. Extremists have attempted to hijack their religion and to misrepresent the teachings found in the Koran to further their agenda

Answer 4: We have many loyal Americans working in various government agencies who hold the Islamic faith. They do their jobs everyday to protect and safeguard our freedoms. Like other employees they will help to root out extremists to protect all Americans.

Answer 5: As President I would call upon all Americans to be vigilant to root out extremists. Together, we can win the war on terror and be thankful we live in a country that guarantees religious freedom for all citizens.

Sorry to burst your bubble -- maybe I haven't.

Notice that not one single question was ever really answered?

Maybe I should be running for President!

Posted by: witness at August 24, 2008 11:22 AM

Thank you, Barak / Joe:

http://feeds.bignewsnetwork.com/index.php?sid=382836

Posted by: Alert at August 24, 2008 11:43 AM

Witness for President!

Great set of answers and presume you would not even need a teleprompter.

In the event you decline to run, you ought to offer them as FAQs to the campaign websites of both Obama and McCain since answers from both would be about the same as you wrote them.

Posted by: USorThem at August 24, 2008 11:51 AM

Witness for President!

Great set of answers and presume you would not even need a teleprompter.

In the event you decline to run, you ought to offer them as FAQs to the campaign websites of both Obama and McCain since answers from both would be about the same as you wrote them.

Posted by: USorThem at August 24, 2008 11:51 AM

I gave no thought to those "off the cuff" answers; if I had, there would have been no grammatical gaffs.

Anyway, thank you for your vote. I won't be voting for any of the stalinists running for US President.

Posted by: witness at August 24, 2008 1:09 PM

Hey Witness!!! You've got those answers down pat, now how would you know? heh, you would have my vote my friend.

Now all you have to learn is how to say all that very sincerely and deadpan.

;o)

Posted by: gymgal at August 24, 2008 1:36 PM

Witness

I plugged the Loyalist Party in a previous thread. I recommend voting for them if you are disinclined to vote for either (R) or (D).

http://www.loyalistparty.com/

I don't know whether they'll have a presidential candidate, but anybody thinking of not supporting either party due to their inadequate stance on Islam should support this party's candidate for president.

Posted by: Infidel Pride at August 24, 2008 2:01 PM

Iftikhar Ahmad -

But, you don't belong here. And, islam has no place in the West, either.

Don't make any long-term plans. Keep your suitcase close by the door.

Oh, and you might study animal husbandry. Think: Goat Herding as practiced in some of the more arid, sandy places in the Middle East. Learn to appreciate goatskin, flies, and disgusting body rash.

Posted by: HotSpur at August 24, 2008 2:02 PM

Obama is unique among American politicians in that he has read and studied the Koran (and we have heard that he was a diligent student). Hard to say how much he remembers, but he must certainly be familiar with various salient themes. Of course, he will never admit to what he knows of the Koran and Islam.

Has no one asked his former classmates in Indonesia exactly what was taught to the children at that time?

Posted by: sonomaca at August 24, 2008 4:11 PM

I'm sorry to see that iftikhar has more or less hijacked this thread.

Robert, these are great questions that all the candidates should be asked. What is being done to ensure they ARE asked at any of the venues where the candidates will be speaking?

Witness has nailed the likely responses that would be made. Now, how about refashioning the questions in such a way to make them immune from such smarmy answers, say, along the lines of "Have you quit beating your wife yet?" Is this even possible?

Posted by: Eastview at August 24, 2008 6:00 PM

First an apology to all for this off-topic post, but iftikar's post deserves a good fisking.
Muslim Youths

Muslim youths are angry, frustrated and extremist because they have been mis-educated and de-educated by the British schooling.

So this is all the fault of British schooling? No part of any blame lies elsewhere? And what is this "de-educated" thing that you write of? This would imply that they start off school already educated and the British schools somehow make them less educated than where they started from. What proof do you have of this? Where is this knowledge they originally had and should they be excused if they can pass the GCSE before they enter primary school?

When you say 'extremist', I don't believe that you are talking about 'extremist social studies', 'extremist mathematics', 'extremist biology', or even that you are referring to 'extremist english'. Let's face it, you are talking about extremist muhammedism. And which private schools teach extremist islam, or are you saying that the students become extremist mussulmen in response to some form of religion the teachers have?

Muslim children are confused because they are being educated in a wrong place at a wrong time in state schools with non-Muslim monolingual teachers.

You seem to be complaining about non-Muslim monolingual teachers, since the other two 'problems' are so fuzzy and ill-defined they mean nothing at all. What is the 'wrong place'? What would be the 'right place'? Why is the school education happening at the 'wrong time'. Would the 'right time' be after they have retired from the work force, when they have lots of time after a lifetime of poorly paid jobs because they have no education?

I suspect that you believe that any education with a non-muslim teacher would be the wrong time and the wrong place.

Yet I agree with you that having a teacher speak the native language of a student is helpful, but I don't believe it is necessary.

They face lots of problems of growing up in two distinctive cultural traditions and value systems, which may come into conflict over issues such as the role of women in the society, and adherence to religious and cultural traditions.

As has every other immigrant to any other country where there is a difference in cultural traditions of original and adopted countries. The student must learn to adapt and adopt the new culture. To do otherwise would stultify growth and progress and trap a student in a unchanging culture where everything is locked down in a theocratic stasis.

The conflicting demands made by home and schools on behaviour, loyalties and obligations can be a source of psychological conflict and tension in Muslim youngsters.

So how would you intend to resolve these conflicting demands? Since the role of education is to prepare children for living in the society of that country, then one of them has to reign supreme, and that would be that of the Britain that is providing the education. Which is why it provides it in the first place.

There are also the issues of racial prejudice and discrimination to deal with, in education and employment.

What do you mean by racial prejudice in education?
There is nothing wrong with discrimination in education, what is wrong is discrimination based on non-tested factors. When your child participates in a class test, your teacher discriminates against those who haven't learnt or or are incapable of learning by passing or failing students.

If you have inappropriate beliefs and attitudes then your ability to obtain, retain and advance in your employment in Britain will be severely degraded. Unfair discrimination is not: being a male and having to work under a female supervisor just because you believe that men should always have power over women.

They have been victim of racism and bullying in all walks of life.

What makes you think that muhammedans are special in this field? Do you honestly feel that only muhammedan students are the victims of racism and bullying?

According to DCSF, 56% of Pakistanis and 54% of Bangladeshi children has been victims of bullies.

OK, now tell us who is doing the bullying? Is this racism if the bullies are also Pakistanis and Bangladeshi? What bullying do these students inflict on other students?

Students should be able to attend school without being bullied, but your statistics are mostly useless without other statistics that say whether it is more or less prevalent in non-Pakistani and non-Bangladeshi children., as well as who is doing the bullying.

The first wave of Muslim migrants were happy to send their children to state schools, thinking their children would get a much better education.

And they were correct.

Than little by little, the overt and covert discrimination in the system turned them off.

I would disagree with you here: it is more likely the parents found that their children were exposed to attitudes and values of the adopted country and found that their children were adopting them. It also might be that the students felt discriminated against when their expectations for being treated as superiors to the native British did not occur. Just because you feel you are being discriminated against doesn't mean you actually are.

There are fifteen areas where Muslim parents find themselves offended by state schools.

And these are? Let me guess at some of them: being taught evolution, co-educational classes, being taught of the equal rights of males and females, girls required to do physical education classes, male children being taught by women teachers, any child being taught by kuffar teachers, sex education and reproductive biology, any teaching they might consider bidah, classes being taught that don't recognise the supremacy and power of Allah?

The right to education in one’s own comfort zone is a fundamental and inalienable human right that should be available to all people irrespective of their ethnicity or religious background.

Sounds like you've been listening too much to children complaining they have to learn too much. If you could only teach children knowledge that was in their comfort zone, they would be poorly educated indeed. What a preposterous idea that you would have as a 'fundamental and inalienable human right'. If we were to believe you, it would mean that one Japanese student enrolling would be entitled to be surrounded by Japanese students speaking Japanese, teachers speaking Japanese and classes that are being taught in Japan. Where do you find these 'stand in' students so that the poor Japanese student is not outside their comfort zone. And do you provide grueling after hours tutoring so that the student is in their nicely stressed Japanese student equivalent so the poor student will achieve the high levels of suicide that japanese schools have.

Parents with children know how much out of a comfort zone the first day at school is, and the first day at high school is. This doesn't mean they prevent their child from going to school because of this.

I don't think you've thought this through. Or maybe you have, and just care about one type of 'comfort zone', that of a theocratic agenda that only recognises and values its own culture.

Schools do not belong to state, they belong to parents.

Sorry, you are incorrect there. State schools belong to the state (Britain). They exist to provide a standard level of education for all students. The state determines the subjects possible available, and also standardised tests at the completion of the compulsory education to rank how well the student has done compared to other students undertaking the same education. Your taxes pay for this, assuming that you pay taxes and are not a parasite on society.

It is the parents’ choice to have faith schools for their children.

Sure you can. Just don't ask the public to pay for your choice. Pay for it yourself. Send your children back to Pakistan or Bangladesh for an education if that is the most important thing. Let them take their (on average) seven years to rote learn the whole Qur'an instead of learning science, literature, biology and then see how well equipped they are to find good jobs in modern western society. Would it be any surprise that such a student may find it frustrating that they can't find good jobs where they all filled by kuffar who have done their A-levels.

Bilingual Muslim children need state funded Muslim schools with bilingual Muslim teachers as role models during their developmental periods.

And why is this? Your suggestion might have some weight were the student being prepared for a bi-lingual muslim society, but since the purpose of a state school is to prepare students for life in the country that has English as its common language and with non-muslims as the majority, then your dear little darlings will have to deal with the reality some time. Again, send your children back to Pakistan or Bangladesh if this is so important.

There is no place for a non-Muslim teacher or a child in a Muslim school.

This sentence is pretty much the summary of your rant. You don't want your children to be exposed to kuffar, their ideas or their culture.

There are hundreds of state schools where Muslim children are in majority. In my opinion, all such schools may be designated as Muslim community schools.

So when you were complaining about discrimination, you are now happy to do so on a religious basis yourself. By your last two sentences, if more than 50% of a school student population is muslim, the other students are expelled, non-mussulmen teachers are sacked and both forced to find their own schools - until this next school will have a majority muslim student composition, and then the process can begin again. In other words, you'd like to bring on dhimmitude in the schools.

An ICM Poll of British Muslims showed that nearly half wanted their children to attend Muslim schools. There are only 143 Muslim schools. A state funded Muslim school in Birmingham has 220 pupils and more than 1000 applicants chasing just 60.

Get out your wallet and chequebooks. Pay for what you want, instead of demanding that others pay for education choices.

Majority of anti-Muslim stories are not about terrorism but about Muslim culture--the hijab, Muslim schools, family life and religiosity.

I'm not sure what you're saying here: would you like the majority of anti-Muslim stories to be about terrorism? Are you decrying the lack of mussulman terrorism? I'll give you a hint - Muslim culture is all about religiosity as it stamps out pre-existing culture and demands adherence to a monoculture based on seventh century arab culture. One more of the mussulman shell games where abhorrent practices in the religion are claimed to be 'cultural' and nothing to do with religion, until they are demanded to be stamped out, at which time they become an essential part of religion.

Muslims in the west ought to be recognised as a western community, not as an alien culture.

This statement asks us to redefine 'western community' to include all practices of muslims, however alien. Muslim practices, beliefs, prejudices are alien to British culture. Stop trying to define it as an a standard for Britain and assimilate rather than asking for traditional British culture to accept adopt mussulmen culture and practices, however abhorrent. Older practices such as forced marriages, trial by combat, and women as chattel may have existed once in British culture, but they exist no longer because the British culture has advanced from there.

Iftikhar Ahmad

Posted by: Gharkad at August 24, 2008 7:07 PM

Gharkad,

Nice job!

Posted by: boneshack at August 24, 2008 8:29 PM

As good as Gharkad answered this taqiyya posted by Iftikhar. I almost wish that Robert had taken it off because it has nothing to do with this thread. Because it is so off topic it shows that it is a troll attack of the first order.

Next time Robert please remove such OT posts. If a thread starts that has this subject then that is were this idiot should post so those with knowledge on the subject will see and answer. Just my thoughts.

Posted by: Im.mad.as.HELL! at August 25, 2008 12:16 AM

Regarding the subject of this thread. I am very pessimistic about both parties and candidates. They are both carefully groomed to appeal to what those that have the power think the masses want. And I am afraid to say they got it pretty close to what this county thinks of itself.

The thing that I find striking is the clear division that is evident. It is about 50/50 as has been shown in the last number elections. Neither candidate will answer these questions directly because the country is not ready to ask or answer these questions.

Posted by: Im.mad.as.HELL! at August 25, 2008 12:28 AM

As a citizen of a long-time ally of the United States, an ally which owes a permanent debt of gratitude to the US for saving our skins in the Pacific theatre in World War II, and an ally which fought alongside the USA in both South Korea (where one of my husband's cousins, his namesake, was killed in action) and in Vietnam, I have more than casual interest in who gets to head up the largest and most powerful of the free non-Muslim nations.

Be assured I am praying like anything!

You can't do much about your presidential candidates - even to me, an outsider, it looks like a pretty dismal choice - but you can try to identify Islamosavvy congresspersons and senators, and people at local government level such as mayors and county councillors. Put all your energy, for the moment, into backing those people and educating them further.

I will add only this: this list of "Questions For the Candidates", which Mr Spencer has provided, is a fantastic resource, applicable far beyond the American Presidential Campaign.

With only a few trifling alterations to the wording, it could be used by jihadwatchers in ANY electoral campaign ANYWHERE in the free non-Muslim world; and could indeed be adapted for use with politicians and aspiring politicians at any level, local or national, at any time, not just during the run-up to elections.

For example, take Question Number One:

"What would you do to deal with (or, 'how are you dealing with') the national security aspect of immigration?

"With plans afoot to bring large groups of [X], including [X - Muslims] into [insert name of country, state, town or district here] what kind of screening will you implement to try to ensure that we are not importing jihad terrorists into our [state/ town/ county/ district/ shire]?

"Will you reevaluate immigration levels from Muslim countries based on recognition of the fact that there is no reliable way to distinguish a peaceful Muslim from a jihadist sympathizer or potential jihadist?"

This question could be presented with complete propriety to the Prime Minister and Foreign Ministers and Immigration Ministers of, for example, Australia, Canada and New Zealand. Leaders of Opposition and Shadow Ministers of the appropriate portfolios could be 'sounded out' with these questions at any time.

Question one could also, as I have shown, be used to sound out the mayors and town, shire or county councillors of cities or districts that are being asked to receive large numbers of immigrants, where many of those immigrants are likely to be Muslims.

The person presenting the question should emphasise very strongly that the skin colour, ethnicity, language skills, and all other characteristics of the prospective immigrant pale into insignificance compared to this one deciding factor - are they, or are they not, MUSLIM? And that this is about practical prudence.

Indeed, the questioner could at the same time strongly draw attention to the horrendous levels of human rights abuses that Muslims in Muslim-dominated polities inflict on non-Muslims - such as Copts, and Assyrian Christians, and Hindus and Christians in Pakistan - and make a strong case for prioritising the non-Muslim victims of Muslim persecution and oppression, while taking measures to make sure that Muslims have not installed themselves in our refugee-processing/ immigrant-processing system to PREVENT the escape of the victims of jihad and dhimmitude).

And take question 5:

5. "Last week, a torture chamber was discovered in a mosque in Baghdad. This revelation follows a large number of other incidents in which jihadists used mosques to plot terrorist attacks and to recruit.

'As [insert name of office here] would you favor the monitoring of mosques in [insert country/ state/ district name here] in order to ensure that there is no terrorist activity and no seditious, Islamic supremacist activity going on in them?

'What other steps would you take? Would you call upon the Muslim community in [insert name of country, state or province, city, county or shire, here] to institute comprehensive and transparent programs in mosques and Islamic schools, teaching against the jihad ideology and Islamic supremacism, and extolling the virtues of [British/ Canadian/ Australian/ [insert name of country here] pluralism, democracy, and the separation of religion and state?

'If not, why not?'

Posted by: dumbledoresarmy at August 25, 2008 12:54 AM

It's time to view Islam what it really is, a Political doctrine set up as a government & set of laws.

IT DOES NOT get the protection of religious freedoms as the other two desert dogma's. Islam needs to be banned. The USA & especially the world needs to be educated on it's true agenda.

Appears today it was an error not to wack Saudia Arabia after 9/11...we are now being rewarded for our inaction @ the gas pumps. Bush made an error.

Time to change course of SA....put the HEAT on the non-elected Royal dirtbags, or make them go away, today.

Posted by: Kauaikit at August 25, 2008 3:11 AM

you will never get an answer from iftikar, the troll.

Iftikar deposits a turd on a tread and disappears.

Meanwhile everyone gets all worked up over his absurd demands and claims.

Don't feed the trolls, its a waste of time.

Posted by: sheik yer'mami at August 25, 2008 3:18 AM

The universal clock is ticking onward, echoing that "we are doom, we are doom, we are doom..."

But it's business as usual in the killing fields, despite the dire warnings...

The universal clock is ticking, reverberating the phrase, "cease and desist slaughtering human beings who have been caught in the crossfires of the killers and the killed..."

Blast that Cain who had it good in the Garden of Eden, by his murder of his brother Abel, he unwound
the darker nature in us that calls for the elimination of those who stand in the path of our killing ambitions, that we may live in peace and prosperity without the competition of neighbors.

Then, in the end, for nothing better to do, as our darker nature commands, we start slaughtering each other - for that is the true nature of the world, that in the end nobody human is left to tell the story of man's inhumanity to man, for all of us never listened to and followed the simple guidelines that for a moment made us happy, "love your neighbors as you love yourself."

Unfortunately, the guidelines for know what love is all about has been forgotten in the shuffle for perdition.

Amen. And amen.

Posted by: jmbennettusa at August 25, 2008 10:21 AM

Instead of bringing to the US more Muslim Terrorists from Iraq under some immigration program, let's bring in the Christians from Iraq who are waiting to be massacred as soon the US gets out of Iraq. The Christians in Iraq who are pro American have been very helpful to the American troops in Iraq. All sides, Sunni, Shiia and Kurds are waiting for the US to get out of Iraq. They will massacre the Christians like they did in 1930s, 1940s and 1970s. Christians in Iraq are like the sheep waiting to be slaughtered.

It is very ironic that Obama picked Bidon as his running mate. Bidon credits himself with the Clinton-Kosovo war in 1998-99. During the Kosovo war the US troops were fighting side by side with Osama Bin Laden and his Al Qaeda troops who were brought in from all over Middle East and Africa to fight a Jihad war against the Christians of Kosovo - we were paying, feeding, supporting and supplying Al Qaeda with weapons and ammunitions. The Kosovo war pissed off the helpless Russians then and contributed to the return of the Evil Empire of Russia. Russia recently punished the Americans and the West by devastating the Republic of Georgia as a revenge for the Kosovo War - Thanks to Senator Bidon's contribution to history - Russia will only get stronger, angrier and more evil instead of the friendly path Russia was heading towards.

Posted by: American at August 25, 2008 11:45 AM