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August 30, 2008

UK: Muslim women caught on tape promising death and destruction to Christians, Brits, ex-Muslims, moderate Muslims, Muslims working in banks, adulterers, fornicators, gays, and women wearing short-sleeves and make-up

Living up to the Koran's dictum: "The Believers, men and women, are protectors one of another: they enjoin what is just, and forbid what is evil" (9:71). "Revealed: Saudi women preaching hate in the British mosque that promised to clean up its act 18 months ago," by Tom Harper, for Daily Mail, August 30 (thanks to Morgaan):

Hardline female ‘preachers of hate’ are radicalising Muslim women at one of Britain’s top mosques.

The Saudi Arabian preachers were secretly filmed ordering women to murder gays and ex-Muslims.

Undercover reporters from Channel 4’s Dispatches recorded the lectures in the women’s section of Regent’s Park Mosque in London.

An unnamed Saudi woman is seen mocking other religions – labelling Christianity ‘vile’ and an ‘abomination’. Another, known as ‘Angelique’, claims Britain is a ‘land of evil’.

The investigators attended lectures for two months at the mosque, which had promised a clean-up after another Dispatches probe just 18 months ago exposed it for spreading extreme Islamic views.

During one sermon, a woman called Um Amira says: ‘He is Muslim, and he gets out of Islam...what are we going to do? We kill him, kill, kill.’

She's only saying what her prophet taught. Said Muhammad: "Whoever leaves his religion, kill him."
In the programme, to be screened tomorrow, she adds that women adulterers should be stoned to death and people who have sex before marriage should get ‘100 lashes’.

Regent’s Park Mosque is one of the biggest and most prestigious Islamic institutions in the UK. Opened in 1944 by King George VI, it can hold up to 5,000 worshippers.[...]

Just imagine what's being taught in the small and less than "prestigious" mosques littering London's ghettoes.
This time, Dispatches returned to Regent’s Park Mosque to find exactly the same extremist books on sale there and the female preachers spreading radical Wahhabi Islam.
At least they reformed a little by allowing women to, not only participate, but actually lead the hate-filled, murderous harangues, which just may be unprecedented for "conservative" mosques.

One Saudi woman, who mocks other religions, says: ‘We feel nothing sometimes going past the church. What they say with their tongues is so vile and disgusting, it’s an abomination.’

Another female preacher, Um Saleem, says it ‘breaks her heart’ to see Muslims ‘working in banks, wearing short sleeves...and make-up’.

The man in charge of the mosque, Dr Ahmed Al Dubayan, is Islamic Affairs attaché to the Saudi Embassy. Dispatches claims the mosque has links to the Saudi government, which it accuses of spending billions spreading the Wahhabi message. The Saudi Embassy denied this.

Dr Al Dubayan said he did not know the preachers in the documentary and claimed the mosque ‘does not support or condone extreme views’.

Posted by Raymond at August 30, 2008 7:58 PM
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Will there be outrage by other muslims from the words of these hatefilled muslims? l wont hold my breath waiting for the outcry of disgust of what was said about non muslims, and those muslims not good enough. its time to close down these mosques and start to deport those who preach hate now!

Posted by: ZenaWarriorPrincess [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 30, 2008 9:01 PM

So I guess it's no use advising Islamics to lighten up and to get in touch with their feminine side. It seems that the feminine side of Islam is just as nasty and mean as the masculine side.

Posted by: ebonystone [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 30, 2008 9:02 PM

"...the mosque ‘does not support or condone extreme views’". Well, duh-uh, these views are considered mainstream in Islam, so that is quite correct.

Really "extreme" views, requiring beheading, are tolerance of other religions, compassion, equality for women, and other decadent Western ideas.

Posted by: geokstr [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 30, 2008 9:10 PM

"Just imagine what's being taught in the small and less than "prestigious" mosques litering (sic) London's ghettoes."

If that's the standard fare at a prestigious mosque, then in the smaller run-of-the-mill ones, they're probably murdering people and grinding them up to make sausages. Britons, choose your butcher carefully!

Posted by: ebonystone [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 30, 2008 9:13 PM

Why, given this evidence, is this Regent's Park mosque not closed down? Can't do it, because of all the rich Arabs who attend or at least consider it their neighborhood mosque, and would be offended? Too bad. What are they going to do, spend their summers back in Riyadh and Jiddah and the Gulf? Of course not. They love being in the West; they rely on the West for medical care and education. They can make a fuss, but the fuss can be ignored and the proper relationship of (admittedly rich) primitives to the civilized can be re-established, as it long ago ought to have been, if those in charge are not intent on currying financial favors for themselves or their friends.

Something in this mosque near Regent's Park is rotten, something is hissing and serpentine. Yes, I know, I'm thinking of a different London park. But the mosques, however idyllic their park-placings, take the same texts for their khutbas from the same sources, and thus in the end tend to be, unsurprisingly, turn out to be much the same. Some of this is caught on camera. Some of it isn't. That's the main difference.

Posted by: Hugh [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 30, 2008 9:27 PM

I love being a muslim and living in America.......we can complain about what these people do and say...but it's never going to change. I PERSONALLY believe that ALLAH (GOD) will punish those that need to be punished on the day of judgement.....I just make dua(prayer) that Allah(GOD) has mercy on the ones that are innocent. One bad muslim, does not represent all muslims......dont care what religion, color or sex you are....its not my place to judge...I wish everyone would think like this.....because it could be something about you thats not right.......

Posted by: SUDAIS [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 30, 2008 10:24 PM

I love being a muslim and living in America.......we can complain about what these people do and say...but it's never going to change. I PERSONALLY believe that ALLAH (GOD) will punish those that need to be punished on the day of judgement.....I just make dua(prayer) that Allah(GOD) has mercy on the ones that are innocent. One bad muslim, does not represent all muslims......dont care what religion, color or sex you are....its not my place to judge...I wish everyone would think like this.....because it could be something about you thats not right.......

Posted by: SUDAIS [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 30, 2008 10:25 PM

I love being a muslim and living in America.......we can complain about what these people do and say...but it's never going to change. I PERSONALLY believe that ALLAH (GOD) will punish those that need to be punished on the day of judgement.....I just make dua(prayer) that Allah(GOD) has mercy on the ones that are innocent. One bad muslim, does not represent all muslims......dont care what religion, color or sex you are....its not my place to judge...I wish everyone would think like this.....because it could be something about you thats not right.......

Posted by: SUDAIS [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 30, 2008 10:25 PM

I love being a muslim and living in America.......we can complain about what these people do and say...but it's never going to change. I PERSONALLY believe that ALLAH (GOD) will punish those that need to be punished on the day of judgement.....I just make dua(prayer) that Allah(GOD) has mercy on the ones that are innocent. One bad muslim, does not represent all muslims......dont care what religion, color or sex you are....its not my place to judge...I wish everyone would think like this.....because it could be something about you thats not right.......

Posted by: SUDAIS [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 30, 2008 10:26 PM

My hat is off to the unknown investigators who braved this snake-pit, presumably posing as Muslimahs in full get-up!

Their courage and cool are a worthy addition to the annals of the grand tradition of undercover reporting such as was practised by 'John Roy Carlson' and others.

God bless you, ladies, whoever you are! I hope you are armed and dangerous.

Posted by: dumbledoresarmy [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 30, 2008 10:27 PM

"Roid Rage" is a symptom of taking anabolic steroids.

"Mosque Rage" is a symptom of Islam taught in Mosques.

Roid Rage has been investigated by doctors, major league sports and Congress.

Mosque Rage should be investigated so thoroughly.

Posted by: Civilus Defendus [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 30, 2008 10:30 PM

Dear Sudais,

Your "personal Islam," Westernized, humanistic, and practically crypto-Christian as it is (Mohammed didn't come up with "judge not lest ye be judged," you know), isn't the problem.

It's the Islam of your prophet, your shiekhs, your imams, many of your fellow-mosquegoers, many of your neighbors, and much of the rest of your Ummah that is. I'm sure you'll understand if we pay attention to the enormous mass of Muslims that wish to kill us while they quote the exact words and follow the exact example of your prophet.

Posted by: Marwan'sDaughter [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 30, 2008 10:40 PM

Muslims, no sense of humor.

Posted by: Robin_Shadowes [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 30, 2008 11:08 PM

"...people who have sex before marriage should get ‘100 lashes’..."


a woman who was accused (someone reported it and no proof was needed by the Islamic Clerics) receive 600 lashes for alledgedly carrying on a telephone relationship with a teacher...Note: the woman did say she talked to the professor on the telephone, but only to ask questions about a report she was working on...

conclusion: alledged phone relationships are more vile in Muslim eyes than actual sex before marriage..

Posted by: pulsar182 [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 30, 2008 11:12 PM

The Muslims are grooming future female suicide bombers....

Posted by: pulsar182 [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 30, 2008 11:13 PM

There is no "allah," Sudais.

These Mohammedan females make me sick. UK should be deporting them immediately.

Posted by: darcy [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 30, 2008 11:38 PM

Europe you allow them to build mosques on your land and let them teach muslims to kill your children, Women. Muslims dont want any other religion to build places of worship on their lands(which they call Islamic Lands). Their arguement is potrayed by a quack scholar Dr.Naik here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9TQYu2kv_o

If u dont take action soon, europe is doomed.

Posted by: greaticon [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 31, 2008 12:15 AM

This place should be closed down and reopened as a homeless shelter, put it to some good use for a change. How many chances should these barbarians be allowed before action is taken against them.

Posted by: Jihadtobejoking [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 31, 2008 12:28 AM

Allah is not the God of the Bible:

http://www.kingmessiahproject.com/is_allah_not_God.html

Posted by: champ [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 31, 2008 12:33 AM

Sudias,

What's with the repeated posts? You mention that one bad Muslim does not represent all Muslims. What is a bad Muslim? If I am not mistaken these Muslimahs in Regents Mosque would be considered good Muslims they are teaching what Mohammad has said. So the bad Muslims would be the ones who do not believe in what Mohammad says. Then that would make them apostates. Therefore I have to say that you are using taquiya, because you cannot love being a Muslim without having to love what Mohammad says. I do not believe one word that you have said, because deception is war.

Posted by: savsiv [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 31, 2008 12:38 AM

Gosh, don't Muslims EVER keep their word?

"Revealed: Saudi women preaching hate in the British mosque that promised to clean up its act 18 months ago."

Same bullshit, different day. The Islamic Saudi Academy in Alexandria, VA promised to do the same thing and guess what? I guess they have a problem with short term memory loss.

Posted by: Isabellathecrusader [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 31, 2008 12:40 AM

One bad muslim, does not represent all muslims......
Posted by: SUDAIS

Maybe not, whats a bad muslim? Whats a good muslim?
Are the women in this article good muslims, or bad muslims? Note, there are more than one, and they are talking to many.

From article: During one sermon, a woman called Um Amira says: ‘He is Muslim, and he gets out of Islam...what are we going to do? We kill him, kill, kill.’

Is this statement from a good muslim who knows sharia regarding apostasy, or is she a bad muslim mis-understanding Islam?

Posted by: duh_swami [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 31, 2008 12:40 AM

One bad Muslim...

Hmm. What is a bad Muslim and what is a good Muslim? Do we answer this question based on American values or Muslim values?

One question, why are so many Muslim men duplicitous? Why do they seem so charming and kind to their American wives while they live in America and then turn into such rat bastards if they take the wife and kids back from whence they came? why do they think nothing of dismissing the American wife and keeping the kids in prison back in good old M.E. hellhole? Because that's what Islam teaches and human nature being what it is, what Muslim guy is NOT going to jump at the chance to get his way if he's tired of his American wife and knows the Koran says he can take the kids whenever he wants to.

Sudais, how do you explain the lack of charity towards one's neighbor, i.e. an American wife and the consideration for her feelings and her inevitable heartbreak if you up and abscond with her kids? Tell me how you as a person who loves being a Muslim can square that with your conscience? Or is it that in Islam, you don't have a conscience?

Posted by: Isabellathecrusader [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 31, 2008 1:04 AM

SUDIAS states: "One bad muslim, does not represent all muslims"

Were it that we were only dealing with "one bad muslim", as you purport; then Robert Spencer & Company, and Jihad Watch's numerous posters and friends, could devote their precious time and resources to fighting other causes - other than the daily and constant threat to our lives and freedoms that Islam poses.

The number of "bad muslims" is in the hundreds of thousands, so you're one-man figure is WAY off. Try adding a lot more zeros after the "one".

Sorry, but you are either very ignorant about allah and Islam, or you are pulling our leg. If you're pulling our leg, then I'm afraid you're a day late and a dollar short on selling us the softer side of Islam. Not buyin'!

Posted by: champ [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 31, 2008 1:11 AM

Somebody please kick "Dobra Dyen." The internment camp line is an obvious troll, placed to satisfy CAIR and the like.

Posted by: Marwan'sDaughter [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 31, 2008 1:55 AM
UK: Muslim women caught on tape promising death and destruction to Christians, Brits, ex-Muslims, moderate Muslims, Muslims working in banks, adulterers, fornicators, gays, and women wearing short-sleeves and make-up
I'M SAFE! I'M SAFE!

Tis' a great day to be a Jewish Zionist living in Jerusalem, Israel.

:)

Posted by: Shy Guy [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 31, 2008 2:01 AM

Howdy, Champ!

Thesaracen this fool is not. Nice post.

We must all remember that according to cult manual, a bad muslim is a hypocrite, i.e., one who does NOT fight in the 'Cause for allah.'

A good muslim is one who fulfills his cult master's wishes to the letter.

I think of it this way (just gotta love National Geographic):

Pick two two zebras from a herd of 1000 strong on the plains of Africa. Although each of the two zebras will have its own unique stripe pattern, these two zebras are still part of the herd.

In the bigger picture, can you distinguish these two zebras in the herd?

Apply the same analogy to the zombies, multiplied by 10 to the 6th power, and I think that Sudais' summary statements above are not very well thought out (as usual).

I PERSONALLY believe that ALLAH (GOD) will punish those that need to be punished on the day of judgement...

Does that mean I will punished because of that day in March, 1987 when I used my RIGHT hand to cleanse myself after doing Number 2?

Please, you zombies need to get a grip on reality, and stop restricting your powers as a human being on a non-existent moon deity.

Hey, just for fun, why don't you read this great summary of zombie voodoo rituals. (I personally could not stop laughing at each chapter!!)

Islamic Voodoos

(Recommended read for everyone, if you've not done so already.)

Posted by: boneshack [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 31, 2008 2:02 AM

Regent's Park mosque was opened by King George the 6th?

So the Royal family has been pro-Islam for generations.

Posted by: Voltaire [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 31, 2008 2:07 AM

I wonder what the London Olympics in 2012 will be like, if these muslims keep on spouting their hatred this openly in 2008?

Posted by: Voltaire [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 31, 2008 2:11 AM

I've learned to read-between-the-lines with these folks. What this hate-spewing woman in the mosque is really saying is "Please handcuff me immediately, transport me to Scotland Yard and question me, then debrief me about my immediate deportation, never to return. I am tired of England and no longer respect The Queens' hospitality towards me, by allowing me to live here. I have abused the priveledge of freedom of speech and am calling for the overthrow of Great Britain and the subjugation of all her people."

There...correctly edited. Now it's crytal clear to me.

Posted by: No More Ham, Ed [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 31, 2008 2:11 AM

"The man in charge of the mosque, Dr Ahmed Al Dubayan, is Islamic Affairs attaché to the Saudi Embassy. Dispatches claims the mosque has links to the Saudi government, which it accuses of spending billions spreading the Wahhabi message. The Saudi Embassy denied this"

If this statement is true then I am the President of China.
I hope you enjoyed the olympics.
(although it was thought by some to be satanic)


Posted by: Ken CleanAirSystem [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 31, 2008 2:16 AM

Finally, dear Dobra,

There were no internment camps in the United States after the mass murder and hideous destruction of 9/11. Nor will there ever be, because we made a huge mistake once during World War II and it won't ever, ever happen again. We learned, and we believe, that every person is given the opportunity to think as he will, and cannot be judged or punished without his own willing, hurtful actions against others.

It might be our failing in the short run, but in the end, it is our greatest strength.

After 9/11 all our mosques were, and are, still standing -- which is something I cannot say about churches in Islamic countries after expressions of opinion in trivial cartoons and books. We do have incidents where people are unjustly harassed, but here the criminals are caught and punished and scorned, as they should be.

Get this through your head: We do not do internment camps. We've learned through hard experience that there is justice, and that justice is personal. It has nothing to do with your race, or ethnic background, or gender, or sexuality, or even your creed. Despite all our failings, we reach for the goal that justice does not depend on your community or your race or your tribe or your clan or your ummah.

What justice thinks about is . . . you. What you do. And if the things you believe, the texts that you read and the example that you follow, if those things inspire and drive your actions -- then we will call you, and them, to account.

Posted by: Marwan'sDaughter [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 31, 2008 3:22 AM

Please listen to Saudi funded Dr/Zhir Naik of India who visists middleast frequently.He speaks what is written in the holy texts as this lady preacher.
they speak the TRUTH as written in Quoran.
The change has to come from the TEXTS.

Posted by: captain [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 31, 2008 5:56 AM

Islam is a steamroller. To all appearances it can't be stopped! The posts we read here are encouraging though because they prove that many Americans and Brits are aware of the deception and hatred! But getting angry is not enough.

We must tell friends and neighbors what we know. Be vocal. Write letters to Congressmen. Recommend that they read books by Robert Spencer, Wahlid Shoebat, Aayan Hirsi Ali, Bat De'or. Ask your library to get these books if they don't have them.

Recently found the 90 minute movie on the web called "What the West Needs to know About Islam" and highly recommend it. It is outstanding! (Hypnotized, I watched it twice!!!) Google and see for yourself.

I wish some wealthy American would buy big billboards all over our land and print something like "Islam is not peace! islam is deception! on it. Repercussions? You bet! But millions would see it before all hell broke loose. I am an Angry American

Posted by: angryamerican [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 31, 2008 6:58 AM

Another thing! Buy some of the books recommended above and GIVE them to the skeptics! Costly? Yes, but worth it! (Damn the Qur'an and full speed ahead!)

Posted by: angryamerican [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 31, 2008 7:06 AM

Islam is a steamroller. To all appearances it can't be stopped! The posts we read here are encouraging though because they prove that many Americans and Brits are aware of the deception and hatred! But getting angry is not enough.

We must tell friends and neighbors what we know. Be vocal. Write letters to Congressmen. Recommend that they read books by Robert Spencer, Wahlid Shoebat, Aayan Hirsi Ali, Bat De'or. Ask your library to get these books if they don't have them.

Recently found the 90 minute movie on the web called "What the West Needs to know About Islam" and highly recommend it. It is outstanding! (Hypnotized, I watched it twice!!!) Google and see for yourself.

I wish some wealthy American would buy big billboards all over our land and print something like "Islam is not peace! islam is deception! on it. Repercussions? You bet! But millions would see it before all hell broke loose. I am an Angry American

Posted by: angryamerican [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 31, 2008 7:19 AM

"Therefore I have to say that you are using taquiya, because you cannot love being a Muslim without having to love what Mohammad says. I do not believe one word that you have said, because deception is war.

Posted by: savsiv ?

Most of Mohammad words were not of love, but of war, death, and destruction, but never fear , there are plenty of Muslims who love his words and who practice the words he dictated..."kill them where you find them" comes to mind...and certainly there are a lot of Muslims who love the man...

Posted by: pulsar182 [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 31, 2008 7:56 AM

I wonder what the London Olympics in 2012 will be like, if these muslims keep on spouting their hatred this openly in 2008?

Posted by: Voltaire at August 31, 2008 2:11 AM

You mean the Londonistan Olympics?

Posted by: darcy [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 31, 2008 8:37 AM

This is In England .
does any one care about what is going here in the States with the Muslim women?.
The teaching of hate....."Dont let the Americans get you" this was heard in a Sunday school just before Thanksgiving. "this is not a muslim holiday. muslim dont celebrate thanksgving?
and as soon as those women step out of the mosque. the put another face on ... and eat some turkey,
and what about the women dancing in the street celebrating Spt 11 in New Jersey.
Some of those pictures should be exposed again.
Women in Islam are as dangerous as men.
Maybe this is why most of the feminist clubs in America dont waste too much time defending the right of women in islam.THey know it is a lost cause Just because the majority of those Muslim women are happy and not ready to change .
If they were ready to protest the oppression of women in Islam, American Muslim women will do so in this country.

Did you notice that the few Muslim women who are trying to expose the danger of Islam are not only a very rare species but need protection because they are in danger?.

Wafa , Ayan. Nonie are the exception that confirms the rule. The majority of others are as brainwashed and submissive as the men are and by exposing what is going on in the other countries where Muslims are gaining power, the American people should understand at least one thing and it is that Islam is not compatible with our values and should not be taught and practice in the Usa if we want to avoid destruction and murder .

Posted by: Tartine [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 31, 2008 9:59 AM

"Women in Islam are as dangerous as men." --Tartine

I don't think "as" dangerous, however, these particular hate-filled Mohammedan females are. I have no doubt they wouldn't hesitate to blow up innocent people. They are pathetic humans, mere brainwashed shells.

Concerning the imbecile who called Christianity "vile" and an "abomination," I would love to be in Londonistan right now, seek her out, and spit in her face.

Posted by: darcy [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 31, 2008 10:15 AM

Give these women some cucumber, they need cucumber very badly.

Posted by: American [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 2, 2008 10:25 AM
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