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In this we see the inevitable and logical outcome of the allegedly "reasonable" accommodation of Muslim demands in American workplaces: "Somalis are running our plant. They are telling us what to do." The company has "no respect for the Spanish or white people. Many times we are forced to pull extra count... I don't feel that is right."
Although this article frames the controversy in racial terms, it isn't really a racial issue at all. It is a question of to what extent American institutions and organizations are going to change their practices and inconvenience non-Muslims in order to assuage Muslim demands. These Muslim initiatives, I have argued, are part of a larger stealth jihad aimed at, in the words of the Muslim Brotherhood, "eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within and ‘sabotaging’ its miserable house by their hands and the hands of the believers so that it is eliminated and Allah’s religion is made victorious over all other religions.”
Others see this as sheer hysteria. The "Allahpundit" guy over at Hot Air has expressed sneering contempt for the idea that some accommodations of Muslim practices "send us down the path to the 'complete Islamization of American society.'” Likewise some posts at FreeRepublic were recently brought to my attention (thank you, Jason). One commenter said this about my article about the Muslim demands for changes in the janitorial uniform at Sky Harbor Airport:
This is getting ridiculous. And I don't mean the Somalians' request. I'm talking about the fact that every time anybody Muslim happens to request that they be allowed to wear what they want in a non-sensitive position (I mean, we're talking about skirts vs. pants on janitorial staff for crying out loud), we have some idiot flip out and start screaming that this means that "shar'ia law is coming to _fill in the blank_!!!!!"I don't see a thing at all unreasonable about this request. None whatsoever.
But this incident at the Swift plant shows that what may seem at first like "reasonable accommodation" has much larger implications. I'm sure that when Muslims at Swift began to demand changes in their break times, many said (as many are still saying), "What's the big deal? So they take a break at 7:30 instead of 9! It doesn't mean we're on the road to becoming an Islamic state!"
This article, however, shows what it does mean: it means that -- as was inevitable given the supremacist nature of Islam -- Muslims will accept no compromise, and non-Muslim workers will feel slighted and resentful. There can be no possible compromise with Sharia provisions: they must be adhered to in full, and once the precedent is set that they must be accommodated, there will be no end to the demands. That is why each of these incidents is important: it's a small accommodation it itself, but it reinforces the precedent that American practices must give way to Muslim ones whenever they clash. Once that precedent is set, it does indeed lead to the Islamization of American society, unless at a certain point non-Muslims are willing to draw the line and say "Thus far, but no farther. No more accommodation of Muslim demands." That line will never be drawn, however, as long as Americans continue to fail to see the larger implications and inevitable outcome of these individual incidents.
This incident is the future. We will be seeing much more of this.
"Facing protests, Swift vows to 'balance needs of all employees,'" by Chris Casey in the Greeley Tribune, September 6 (thanks to John):
A complaint by Somali workers earlier this week that they weren't getting early enough break times to accommodate religious fasting snowballed into worker protests at the JBS Swift & Co. plant Friday.Employees from both early and late shifts converged in the afternoon in front of the human resources office at the north Greeley plant.
About 100 employees, some of whom were supposed to be working, protested company officials accommodating Muslims by moving their break time to accommodate those fasting for Ramadan, a Muslim holy month. The company allowed Muslim workers to take their breaks about an hour earlier than normal to break their fasts.
The peaceful crowd milled about behind the plant gates signifying its frustration.
"They have no respect for the Spanish or white people," said Brianna Castillo, a Swift employee of four years. "Many times we are forced to pull extra count... I don't feel that is right."
Castillo, who is white, said every race was represented in the protest with the exception of Somalis. Castillo said employees are frustrated by what they feel is a double standard when it comes to other races and Somalis.
"Somalis are running our plant," Castillo said. "They are telling us what to do."
Swift security guards paced the parking lot helping to break up the crowds. Joann Lopez, who finished her morning shift, said she was threatened with her job if she didn't leave, which didn't happen to Somalis when they protested earlier in the week.
Lopez, who is Latino and Catholic, said she is upset because the new schedule forces the second shift to work more consecutive hours after their break.
"They are working four to five hours without a break and that's wrong," Lopez said. "This is hard work, and to go without a break, we feel it."
The problem began on Tuesday when Muslim workers were told they could not break their fast at 7:30 p.m., but would have to wait until their lunch break. For many that break didn't come until about 9 p.m. On Wednesday, Muslim workers gathered outside the Swift plant to negotiate a solution with management. That night they were told they would be allowed to break at 7:30 p.m.
United Food Commercial Workers Local 7, the union that represents primarily production department workers at Swift, responded Thursday by filing a grievance as directed by its membership. The union said the company may have been in violation of its contract, which states that workers must receive lunch break at the mid-point of their shift.
Jack Shandley, head of global human resources for JBS Swift & Co., said late Friday afternoon that the grievance "is just a procedural issue, and we'll work through it." He said company management will talk about the matter with union officials and "it will be done as expeditiously as necessary and as the facts are available."
Shandley said Swift plants have begun hiring Somali workers, whose religion is primarily Muslim, in the last couple of years as African refugees have sought employment in the United States. The aspects of their religion are "relatively new" to the company, which is trying to adapt.
"U.S. law requires companies to, when they can, make reasonable accommodations," he said. "We, like any good employer, try to balance the needs of all employees in respect to their religions and, to the extent that we can do that without diminishing efficiencies. That's what we're trying to do."...
Shandley said he's confident that all the differences can be worked out between the employee groups. This week's events have not caused notable disruption to Swift's business operations, he said.
"We're working with all parties to try to reach a reasonable accommodation," he said. "We think we're reaching that to balance the needs of everybody."
Good luck with that.
Here is some background that didn't make the Greeley Tribune report, courtesy Jihad Watch reader John:
There's much more to the story than what the Tribune printed. It was not all peaceful, as the Tribune has led us to believe. My neighbor, directly across the street from my home, is a Registered Nurse. She is currently employed at the Swift Meat Packing plant at Greeley in the medical department. She was an eyewitness to the building conflict and post-riot damage within the plant that happened at about 7:30 p.m. on Friday evening, 9-5-08.The Greeley P.D. SWAT Team and many police officers had to come into the plant to stop the destruction by approximately 200 angry Muslims of tables, equipment, and helmets inside the cafeteria at about 7:30 pm last night. My neighbor said that the medical department rendered treatment to one non-Muslim female worker who was assaulted during the melee.
The first Muslim demands came as Ramadan began on September 1. The plant employs about 2,000 workers. The majority of workers in the plant are of Latino descent. The Somali Muslims, my neighbor tells me, constitute a majority of the remaining minority number. They demanded that the union-contract mandated lunch break be moved from 9:00 pm to 7:30 pm.
When management moved the lunch break to 7:30 pm for two days, to accommodate the Ramadan Sharia demands, the majority of workers objected. This is covered pretty much within a racial framework in the Tribune story.
According to my neighbor, there was growing tension within the plant during the swing shift on Friday, 9-5-08. During the afternoon she walked through the plant at the request of management to help identify any Muslims who might be in distress from not eating anything during the day. She told me that there were Muslim men congregated in groups, that she was then asked to attend an urgent management meeting, wherein a decision was made to change the Friday lunch break to 8:00 pm, in an attempt to keep everyone happy.
The announcement was made about the new schedule for the 8:00 pm lunch break. At 7:30 pm the Muslims, about 200 in number, walked off the job, went to the employee cafeteria and began to break tables and equipment. At that time my neighbor was walking back into her medical department. She heard the sounds of the violence and later saw the aftermath of the damage....
I doubt that much of what I am telling you here is going to be printed in the press accounts.
So do I.
Posted by Robert at September 7, 2008 8:04 AM
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Just out of curiosity, why did this company employ so many somali muslims in the first place. Are they really this % of the local workforce or was there another reason?
Posted by: Celsius
at September 7, 2008 8:47 AM
I remember reading 10 years ago that Japanise companies had stoped building plants in Malaya because of Ramadon. 1 month out of the year Muslim employees were unable to work to full capacity.
Posted by: Ruebacca
at September 7, 2008 8:57 AM
At 7:30 pm the Muslims, about 200 in number, walked off the job, went to the employee cafeteria and began to break tables and equipment.
if these were non-muslim employees they would have fired on the spot.
at September 7, 2008 8:58 AM
There's one solution, and one solution only.
Kick 'm out, they're nothing but trouble.
Always have been, always will be.
But then, I'm just an idiot, flipping out.
Posted by: Kim Hartveld
at September 7, 2008 9:10 AM
Reasonable accomodation?
Check this out:
Rotterdam: Muslim Lawyer may remain sitting
Muslim fundamentalist and lawyer Mohammed Enait does not need to stand when the judges enter the courtroom. Enait claims that standing up conflicts with his religion. The court in Rotterdam agreed with him, reports NRC Handelsblad Friday.
http://sheikyermami.com/2008/09/07/rotterdam-islamo-shyster-mohammed-enait-wont-stand-for-the-judge/
at September 7, 2008 9:17 AM
Swift. Yet another American company I'm personally boycotting, along with Tyson.
Posted by: darcy
at September 7, 2008 9:18 AM
"There can be no possible compromise with Sharia provisions: they must be adhered to in full, and once the precedent is set that they must be accommodated, there will be no end to the demands." Many other parts of the world have seen this as well. Sooner or later, it has ended up in violence. I wish I could see a different result here, but I doubt it.
Posted by: joe-six-pack
at September 7, 2008 9:22 AM
shiek, I read your piece about the Muslim "lawyer" above at your site.
Islam believes "all men are equal." Yeah, right. Tell that to the Infidels, which means everyone on the planet not Islamic.
Also, I took your survey and chose "Italy."
Posted by: darcy
at September 7, 2008 9:24 AM
There is an immediate lesson here: if you don't want to cause disruption in work, internecine strife and resentments that can at any moment become something else, if you don't want morale to fall because you are re-arranging schedules to accommodate Muslims, then for god's sake find other, non-Muslim workers.
There is a larger lesson here. Why are Muslims admitted into Infidel lands? On what grounds, with what understanding of the consequences? How do those in Congress who are supposedly giving the INS oversight, and reflecting the wishes of the American public, doing in reflecting those wishes? All one has to do is to calmly and soberly look, and study, at the contents of the Qur'an, Hadith, and Sira, and look around the world at how Muslims have behaved,, in time and in space, over the past 1350 years, toward non-Muslims, and how, around the world, they are behaving today, in lands already ruled by Muslims (what happens to Hindus in Pakistan and Bangladesh? what happens to Christian Copts in Egypt? To Maronites in Lebanon? To Assyrians and Chaldeans in Iraq?) or lands where Muslims have now settled in sufficient numbers to make their aggressive and unceasing demands -- all over, for example, the countries of Western Europe -- even going so far, in some of those countries, to threatening the indigenous non-Muslims with terrible retribution (see the Netherlands, see Denmark).
Who is in the INS? Who is deciding that Somali Muslims should come to this country at all? Whben was this decision made? Who reviews such decisions, or studies the consequences of such a decision, for the inhabitants of Lewiston, Maine (remember that farseeing and perfectly sensible mayor of Lewiston, who was subject to every kind of abuse for his most unremarkable worries about the Somali presence, and how support for Somalis on welfare was using up the city's budget so that little was left for poor non-Somali native Mainers?), or Minneapolis (see those seeing-eye dog, alcohol-rejecting Muslim taxi drivers, breaking the law, and the requirements of their hack license, because Islam comes before any Infidel requirement or decency), or for workers in a Swift meat-packing plant.
Is it silly, is it absurd, to ask the question: why are Muslims from Muslim-ruled Somalia deemed to be "refugees" worthy of admission to this country? Such admission is a precious thing, desired by many, available only to few. Why should Muslims, including these Somalis, be among those few? Are Muslims "refugees" from Muslim lands? Isn't it non-Muslims who are the only true refugees from Muslim lands, and isn't it true that Muslims are treated with perfect decency, and far too accommodatingly, in non-Muslim lands so that they cannot be said to be "refugees" from those lands? Of course they want to come here. Of course they want to take every advantage of an advanced well-run Western non-Muslim state -- but they do not wish to understand how that state, and what makes it tick, comes from a polity and a people who are non-Muslim, and therefore whatever their faults, they do not have inshallah-fatalism, nor the habit of mental submission (which becomes the habit of political submission, in Muslim lands, to the Ruler or the Regime), they do not have any of the problems that come so clearly out of Islam, and what it inculcates. Refugees from Nazi Germany and its misrule did not arrive here to spread Nazism, but to alert others as to its horror, and to help participate in the fight against it. Refugees from Soviet Communist rule, either in the Soviet Union itslef or in the satellite countries of Eastern Europe, were grateful to be taken in by the United States, and like the refugees from Nazi Germany, did not come to spread Communism, but to help suppress it and arouse others who might be insufficiently alarmed to wish to do so.
But is that true with Muslims who arrive from the Islam-based misrule of Muslim lands? No, it is not. They arrive, but with some remarkable exceptions -- the apostates or defectors from the Army of Islam -- they defend Islam, they protect Islam, they spread their Taqiyya-and-Tu-Quoque, they make campus life difficult for those who dare to present other views (try being a prominent pro-Israeli speaker on many campuses today, as at Concorda University, in Montreal, or at San Francisco State, where you will be shouted down and threatened with worse, so that speeches have to be cancelled).
Since Islam is not only or mainly a religion but a politics and a geopolitics, and since part of the Total Belief-System of Islam includes, ideally, a Complete Regulation of Daily Life, any attempt in non-Muslim settings to follow the prescriptions -- what is commanded, what is prohibited -- will wreak havoc with schedules, and with practices established long ago, before any Muslims were present in this country (they have essentially arrived, save for a handful, not only since World War II, but in numbers beyond the hardly discernible, only in the past twenty years, and have played no part in American history, or the development of the American polity, but are now playing a part here, as in Western Europe, of disruption and unsettlement. In Western Europe the large-scale presence of Muslims makes the lives of both the indigenous non-Muslims, and the lives of non-Muslim immigrants (Hindus, Buddhists, Christians from black Africa) more unpleasant, more expensive, and more physically dangerous, than would be the case without such a large-scale presence. There is no reason not to believe, and plenty of evidence to believe, that eventually the same thing will happen here, unless steps are taken to intelligently, rationally, perfectly sensibly, end Muslim immigration, and then to reverse it, in the first place by refusing to yield to Muslim demands, wherever made, for "accommodations" (a term that hides or softens a great deal) to Muslim ways, no matter what this may mean for non-Muslims.
Since a central duty of Muslims is that of furthering the "struggle" or "Jihad" to remove all obstacles -- from exceedingly small (as some pooh-poohers apparently think this kind of request is, failing to see how it fits in, one more tessera in the Muslim mosaic that is under careful construction) to very large, from demanding changes in workclothes that were in place for everyone long before Muslims showed up, to demanding changes in the exercise, and application, of the individual rights guaranteed by the First Amendment -- to the spread, and then the dominance, of Islam, the disruptions to our lives are not accidental, or based on any misunderstandings. They are fundamental, and the Jihad has no end, until such time as Islam does indeed spread, and does indeed dominate. This is not a fiction. This is in the texts, and reflected in the tenets, the attitudes, the atmospherics of Islam. Those who deny this simply refuse to read and study those texts, because they don't want to know, don't have the stamina or the intelligence, perhaps, or the imagination, to see a bit beyond the immediate. Nor are they students of history. They live in that immedidate, and they live by Articles of Faith, such as "Everyone Wants The Same Thing" or "All Religions Are the Same" or "Tolerance of Others is the Highest Good" or -- well, you know what those Articles of Faith, those Idols of the Present Age, are. They won't do. Not any more. They fail to meet the case.
Posted by: Hugh
at September 7, 2008 9:34 AM
Swift didn't by chance have Ham on the menu that day did they?
It would be interesting to be a Fly on the wall in Swifts Human Resource Dept. Willful destruction of Company Property is grounds for immediate dismissal as well as prosecution.
What will they do?
Posted by: flowerknife_us
at September 7, 2008 9:52 AM
sarcasm on/
I am glad to see Swift is so accomodating of its workers cultural and religious preferences. Perhaps Swift will now renouce its pork business as an accomodation to the sensitivies of its muslim factory workers. Perhaps it will not force its muslim workers to package anything except hallal meat. Are the muslim workers at Anheuser-Busch next to demand accomodation?
sarcasm off/
Companies should accomodate where possible the religious preferences of its workers, but these are hypocritical accomodations made of clueless companies to its islamic workers. Why are there Somali women working there at all? Will they be separated from the men? Do Muslim Somali males have to package any meat that is not hallal? If the employee wants off to celebrate a religious holiday, this should be accomodated. But when the business itself is antithetical to the person's religion any way, and the employee insists nonetheless on accomodation, the request for employee accomodation is made in bad faith.
The civil rights laws were designed to accomodate religious preferences if possible and reasonable. If the muslim employee does not want to work on a friday or needs a holiday off, okay. But to force all employees to these accomodations is foreign to American culture unless the employer is creating new paid holidays for all workers. But the hypocrisy here is paramount. Why are the adherents of rasul mohammed working in a pork factory to begin with?
at September 7, 2008 9:58 AM
Nobody on my street got mail delivery on September 2 and September 3 (September 1 was Labor Day and a holiday).
I phoned my local post office. The representative on the phone wouldn't give me an explanation, but saw to it that mail delivery was restored. No explanation whatsoever! This is atypical from any similar past experiences I've had with a lapse in mail delivery.
Maybe I'm jumping to conclusions, but I have to wonder if our mailman was conducting some sort of Ramadan observerance.
Posted by: Always On Watch
at September 7, 2008 10:08 AM
"At 7:30 pm the Muslims, about 200 in number, walked off the job, went to the employee cafeteria and began to break tables and equipment."
...and so it begins.
Posted by: Zorro
at September 7, 2008 10:13 AM
I they're required to fast until 7:30 PM, is there some similar requirement that they be gorging at 7:31?
Let them fast until 7:30 - then until 8:00, etc.
By 9:00 PM, they will have both kept their fast and their jobs.
Posted by: Occupant
at September 7, 2008 10:25 AM
The Camel's Nose.
Posted by: senor doeboy
at September 7, 2008 10:38 AM
That's a fine mess you've gotten me into, Ollie!
As John's follow-up correspondence shows, the media blackout of basic facts is absolutely stunning in its insipid elitism. I really don't know what will come after the Media, but knowing the one, I'll opt for the unknown and chart a new course, including courses at the college level. The first change is: Do not go into journalism to change the world. There are already other positions out there that do this, but those jobs may require that you actually be elected rather than self-appointed. The horrors! Actually having to put your liberal "ideas" up for a vote.
Posted by: Rick
at September 7, 2008 10:58 AM
The company allowed Muslim workers to take their breaks about an hour earlier than normal to break their fasts.
To BREAK their fasts. If you are fasting, what is wrong with waiting ninety minutes more?
Occupant has it right. Tell them to keep fasting until break time. No one forced them to accept those jobs or those hours.
Likewise, if you start your shift before sunrise, that doesn't mean everyone else has to cover for you until sunrise. Start your fast a little early or end it a little late. You accepted the job.
at September 7, 2008 10:59 AM
Three words: Free range chicken.
Or: grass-fed beef.
Posted by: MarisolJW
at September 7, 2008 11:24 AM
From article: sneering contempt for the idea that some accommodations of Muslim practices "send us down the path to the 'complete Islamization of American society.'”
These people are not to swift (pardon the pun)...
Islam does not have a patent on gradualism, or incrementalism, but uses them as weapons of jihad.
I have seen this process in action, even with non believers. Hegemony can be an individual pursuit or one of many.
'Give them an inch, and they will 'take' a mile'.
'Take' over artists'...
This is why 'giving' is tightly controlled in institutions. Once you start giving (into demands), there is no end to it, and you can prepare to give 'new givings' every day...Until you learn to say' NO'. If you don't learn to say NO, it wont be long till the inmates are running the asylum, and the fox is guarding the hen house...
It is best to not let 'giving into demands' happen to begin with.
Say NO to Islam, 'all' of it , everywhere and every when...
Posted by: duh_swami
at September 7, 2008 11:25 AM
Accomodation everywhere...
http://www.tampabay.com/news/education/college/article795520.ece
USF officials say they incorporated the pale-green room into their design for the brand-new, 233,000-square-foot Marshall Student Center to give the university's 39,000 students an oasis in the desert, a harbor in the storm of hectic campus life.
They also wanted to provide a place for the campus' large Muslim population to pray.
Posted by: Borg
at September 7, 2008 11:50 AM
Swift was the company that got caught hiring hundreds of illegals. They paid these illegals half of what they paid legals. They cried after the raid that they needed illegals because they didn't have enough people willing to do this type work. Then they proceeded to hire all legal people at the prevailing wage. No problem after that.
Swift will do anything to make a few extra bucks. They care not one whit about this country.
Posted by: Spot on
at September 7, 2008 11:51 AM
Hugh writes: "Who is in the INS? Who is deciding that Somali Muslims should come to this country at all? Whben was this decision made? Who reviews such decisions, or studies the consequences of such a decision"
This goes back to the 1965 Immigration reform act which unleashed a wave of chain immigration. The disastrous consequences of that act and follow-up legislation since are becoming increasingly obvious. There is no way to efficiently investigate the backgrounds of over one million legal immigrants annually and, of course, there is no way to monitor the invasion of illegal immigrants which may constitute an additional million each and every year. The events at the Swift plant illustrates a number of these conflicts. There is ethnic strife; in this case Whites and Hispanics have made common cause against Somali Muslims; in other cases it may well be Hispanics and Muslims in a coalition against the "Anglos". The events at Swift also show, in microcosm, the crime and disorder that inevitably result from large numbers of unassimilable immigrants.
Who is making these decisions? The cheap labor lobby made up of businesses like Swift, the ethnic lobbies seeking to build up their power, the hate America crowd seeking to undermine the country and the refugee industry consisting largely of religiously affiliated organizations feeding at the public trough. The one group that is not making these decisions is the American people as whole.
Posted by: RBLA
at September 7, 2008 11:59 AM
Another thought: While they're being so adamant about observing their religion, has anyone pointed out the meat isn't halal? Or that Swift also deals in pork?
Posted by: MarisolJW
at September 7, 2008 12:01 PM
And what happens when Ramadan happens in the summer or late spring, when the days are longer. Do the muslim employees get hurt on the job due to going all day without food or water? Or do they just not show up for work?
Posted by: Borg
at September 7, 2008 12:21 PM
Another thought: While they're being so adamant about observing their religion, has anyone pointed out the meat isn't halal? Or that Swift also deals in pork?
Posted by: MarisolJW
I have wondered why muslims take jobs that have major religious objections built in.
Anything to do with the meat industry, is, or should be haram, unless the meat is prepared to Islamic standards.
Janitorial, where cleaning up the residual filth of kufrs is, or should be haram.
Any position where a filthy kufr gives orders to any muslim. Or muslim employees have to please demanding kuffar customers.
There are more positions like that, those three are just examples.
There are few categories of employment in the west that are not a direct insult to Allah.
Intelligent muslims then realize that employment here (US) is actually haram, unless they are on some kind of jihad. Iran and Egypt have better career opportunities for muslims who don't want to contaminate themselves with kufr contact, or have a kufir boss.
Gaza also needs good muslim workers...
Muslims in America should consider a career move to Gaza...It's a lot more Allah friendly there, and is a great place to live and raise muslim children...
at September 7, 2008 12:25 PM
I must emphasize the despicable behavior, ignorance, barbarism and arrogance of the Somali savages that have been foisted on us by our wise leaders. Yes, I know, I sound like a racist ranter but I'm not talking race I'm talking CULTURE.
If you have not lived in proximity to these new American-Somalis you probably don't have a clue to what I'm talking about. They have come to plunder, cheat and despise us. And the clincher? Catholic Community Charities is a prime mover in the destruction - even screwing over Catholic Hispanic meat packing workers in their rush to foist 7th century savages on Maine and Kansas and Minnesota.
Posted by: poetcomic1
at September 7, 2008 12:41 PM
9-5-08, Friday, huh? Not the first day of Ramadan, but the first PRAYER day of ramadan.
Coincidence? HIGHLY unlikely.
Posted by: Goob
at September 7, 2008 12:41 PM
As dismaying as this incident is, the worst part about the story for me was (if true), the played-down media coverage of the actions of the Somalis by the newspaper.
Time and time again, in their efforts to be politically correct, the generally liberal media hide the full extent of any conflict where certain minorities (or religions as in this case) appear to be the instigators.
I'm sure when cornered, the editors of these august institutions would cite a responsibility to help maintain 'community cohesion', a word often bandied around here in the UK by the Equality industry.
Such distortion has the effect of making anyone who (correctly) points out what may have happened, or who takes an opposing view, is immediately branded intolerant or worse. Pure Marxism in action.
Incidentally we also reap the, er, benefits of a large and fast-growing Somali community here - this story will strike a chord with many in place such as London or Leicester.
at September 7, 2008 1:05 PM
I'm no expert when it comes to Human Resources or legal issues when hiring immigrants...but it seems to me that what's happening at Swift (issuing preferred status to muslim workers AND its consequences) should be a textbook lesson for other businesses in the civilized world, don't ya think?
Posted by: PorkFatRules
at September 7, 2008 1:17 PM
I'm not going to buy any Swift or Tyson products. I don't want to eat what has been handled by these infidel haters anyway. Why DO they want to work in these plants? If they're low enough to discuss terrorism by forest fire then they're low enough to imagine terrorism by food processing.
Posted by: charlie
at September 7, 2008 2:42 PM
OMG, Sheik, I read the article about the lawyer on Islam in Europe yesterday, but seeing his picture on 'yer' blog...sheesh! Islam really is a cult for sociopaths. Even their lawyers, their best and brightest, look like rejects from the Latin Kings' East LA chapter. Looking at Muslims is against my religion, therefore society must accomodate my demand that they be eradicated from my country.
Posted by: jdamn
at September 7, 2008 3:02 PM
It's so strange. History is ignored on a regular basis.
The idea that small changes brought about in peoples daily lives to accommodate or control a particular group is harmless and meaningless.
I'm sure the same arguments were used when the first steps were taken against Jews in pre-Nazi Germany. Or when the Wahabbis started runnin' the show in Saudi land...home of intolerance.
Hurricanes do not appear at your door Allah...
They begin with gentle breezes...always blowing in the same direction. These breezes become winds...always in the same direction, stronger and stronger til you wish to hell you had left. The direction remains the same...until/unless the eye passes you in the right area.
There lies the difference between the coming storm of Islam and a real Hurricane. The direction that the wind blows in a Hurricane can change. The storm of Islam has only one course.
The course to dominance.
Unlike a Hurricane...we can stop Islam. All it takes is truth. Wake up...feel the breeze.
Islam is a lie and truth is killing it.
at September 7, 2008 3:14 PM
"This goes back to the 1965 Immigration reform act which unleashed a wave of chain immigration. The disastrous consequences of that act and follow-up legislation since are becoming increasingly obvious."
Take note that this happened the last time we had a Democrat president and lopsided Democrat majorities in both houses of Congress. I say again: let no one imagine we don't have a dog in this election fight.
BTW, Greeley, Colorado seems to have come a long way since Sayyid Qutb's sojourn there in 1949. He'd probably feel right at home there now.
at September 7, 2008 3:29 PM
The number for the Swift plant in Greeley, CO, which is also their national headquarters is:
970.506.8000
We need to all call them tomorrow and the next day and the next day until we get word that they've fired ALL 200 of the misbehaving Somalis. We need to rant at their CSRs until they have to shut down their phones like Tyson did. We have to demand that they fire every single person who walked off the job and/or destroyed property. We have to demand that they never make another concession to the Muslim hordes, and we have to demand that they adhere to labor laws, which forbid making workers work for more than 4 straight hours as they have done, and that they not cut employee hours in order to to make concessions for Ramadan. It worked with Tyson. It will work with these jackasses. I'm not waiting for the ACT mailer to tell me this time. I'm just doing it. I hope you'll all join me.
Also, if you want to read about how well Somalis 'assimilate,' the Shelbyville Times-Gazette here. They've printed many articles about how they've destroyed their town, and the author is a guy whose family hosted several Vietnamese boat people when they were new in America and he speaks glowingly about them, so he understands the difference between deserving immigrants and mosters who only pollute our country. It's great reading, really, and a great anthropolical study, even if it was never intended to be one. I just wish he would tell us what the scary 'personal hygiene practices' of the women at the Tyson plant were, but they're 'unfit to print.' I think it's relevant information, particularly since it sounds like he's gotten calls from many infidel women at the plant regarding it. But I guess printing the truth would be racist, wouldn't it? I suspect it has something to do with taking 15 minutes to pee as the result of Type III fgm, or having never heard of tampons.
at September 7, 2008 3:32 PM
Sounds like England all over and if Obama gets in then you can be sure that the Islamification process will happen by stealth and be protected by news laws passed so that companies can positively discriminate against Americans in favour of Moslems.
In the UK they no longer hide the fact of their agenda.
Look at this from MPACUK's website which is one of the biggest Moslem organisations in Britain.
Event: The Mosque – Its Role, Position and Importance in the Revival of the Deen
Friday, 02 May 2008
"If the leadership is entrusted to those unfit for it, expect the Hour."
By Allah the signs of the end of times are all around us, a hundred million Zionists desire with all their hearts to plunge this world into the final battle, and all around the Muslims are betrayed and bewitched. Muslim Leaders in the Mosque concern themselves with the minor points of fiqh while all around the Ummah cries in pain and fitna and those with hatred in their hearts plan and plot.
Great civilisations and movements were brought down by the infiltration and destruction of their institutions.
Can we save ourselves from the hands of those who seek nothing but evil on this earth?
Does Islam Allow Us to become idle on this time? Do we seek to improve ourselves while mankind is lost?
Does the mosque have a role to play or is it an empty prayer hall for old men and nothing more?
“And who is worse in oppression than the one who prevents the name of Allah being mentioned in the Masaajid of Allah, and works to destroy them?” [ Al-Baqarah: 114].
Great Britain is sinking from within and america is next!
http://lionheartuk.blogspot.com/2008/05/mpacuk-in-their-own-words.html
Posted by: Lionheartuk
at September 7, 2008 3:45 PM
Oh, I forgot to add that when we call Swift tomorrow, let's not forget to let them know how unbelievably RACIST we find it that they're holding Somalis to different standards than white or Hispanic workers by allowing them to continue their employment. Hammer home that race card, people!
Posted by: jdamn
at September 7, 2008 3:58 PM
The sneaking accomodation constitutes implementation of Islamic societal order, Spencer's absolutely right here. And given that the 'Big Bang' expressions of Jihad have not hit the West for years, this is the challenge to look out for, document and to counter.
Fortunately, the Islamic religious rules are so obviously silly and counterproductive that they may be challenged solely on a free market basis - like paying Muslims less in Ramadan because their productivity plummets. Making any Muslims demanding prayer rooms pay for it themselves - and deduct they time they waste adoring their moongod from their pay cheque. Health insurance companies might put a premium on Muslim customers, for the simple reason that Ramadan and other 'religious' traditions are distinctly unhealthy. Last, not least, make Islamic organisations liable in case of terrorist attack, and supervising them for teaching racism and other sickening stuff at their 'holy' places.
Etc. The possibilities are endless.
Posted by: Henrik
at September 7, 2008 4:10 PM
I would ask 'how did they cope with the hours for whatever number of years they have spent wotking at he SWIFT before Sept 2008?'
No more SWIFT products for me and Im gonne pass that word around to my friends and family.
Posted by: MusHuntCowboy
at September 7, 2008 4:31 PM
Another thought: While they're being so adamant about observing their religion, has anyone pointed out the meat isn't halal? Or that Swift also deals in pork?
Posted by: MarisolJW
Now you're giving me evil thoughts, Marisol...
Why are the words 'Redrafting', 'Job' and 'Descriptions' coming to mind? :)
Posted by: Un:dhimmi
at September 7, 2008 4:38 PM
I, don't buy Swift products anyway, never have, never will. Whatever goes into your body or out of your body, has an effect. Just because it tastes good, does not mean it is good. I go out of my way to prevent industry, agricultural or otherwise, from injecting foreign substances into my body through food.
Swift is not the only company I don't buy from.
Almost all of them manufacture poison, then we wonder why we don't feel well...Well...
Advice, don't eat food produced by people who manufacture junk, and don't eat food produced by people who manufacture a junky attitude to go along with it. Junk+junk=more junk...
Posted by: duh_swami
at September 7, 2008 4:52 PM
Who is in the INS? Who is deciding that Somali Muslims should come to this country at all? Whben was this decision made?
Who reviews such decisions, or studies the consequences of such a decision, for the inhabitants of Lewiston, Maine (remember that farseeing and perfectly sensible mayor of Lewiston, who was subject to every kind of abuse for his most unremarkable worries about the Somali presence, and how support for Somalis on welfare was using up the city's budget so that little was left for poor non-Somali native Mainers?), or Minneapolis (see those seeing-eye dog, alcohol-rejecting Muslim taxi drivers, breaking the law, and the requirements of their hack license, because Islam comes before any Infidel requirement or decency), or for workers in a Swift meat-packing plant.
I was wondering about the same kinds of questions when I read this sad tale, but then these kinds of questions are only asked by someone who presumes that there is a national culture and a country to protect.
The people running Washington do not believe the same things and will never ask those kinds of questions because they are not relevent.
Washinton enacts laws and policies that reflect the interests of its constituents. The constituents are lobbies from other governments, international cartels, or very well-funded special interests such as poltical action committees.
As such, it is entirely reasonable that more somalis will enter the us and that accomdation of islam will be made.
This is only the beginning.
As for me, I will never again by either from Tyson or Swift including their affliates.
But you see, it doesn't really matter since the loss of my business will not impact their balance sheets.
As long as their cost of doing business is dropping much, much, faster then their revenues; they can still show a profit even in the face of declining income.
For this quarter anyway -- that is ALL that matters to the shareholders! Thus a pragmatic look at what is important to the general ledger seems to suggest that nothing will really change except for the importation of more somali labor.
Finally, no one remembers or gives a damn about the Americans whose bodies were dragged through the streets of mogadishu.
The influx of labor from that shit hole country to replace American workers in America, is a hard, cold, slap-in-the-face to their memory.
But who in the Ameican government gives a damn about Americans anyway?
at September 7, 2008 4:58 PM
"Sheik, I read the article about the lawyer on Islam in Europe yesterday, but seeing his picture on 'yer' blog...sheesh! Even their lawyers, their best and brightest, look like rejects from the Latin Kings' East LA chapter."
From a jdam posting above.
You ain't seen nothing yet!
Check this out:
http://sheikyermami.com/2008/07/19/yusuf-does-comedy-also/
Btw, this is him mocking Maori's, right from his own blog. Meanwhile, he took it off. But if you type 'Yusuf Irfan' into the search function right under the poll questions on the WoJ blog you'll be surprised what comes up.
Or watch Anjem Chaudry here, the third vid, scroll down:
http://sheikyermami.com/2007/05/30/londonistan-revisited/
at September 7, 2008 5:19 PM
Hugh the ones who decide that we should inject phychotic third world muslims from areas like somalia are two wings of your goverment./
1- THE LEFT WING THAT WANTS TO DISTRIBUTE AMERICAS WEALTH THINKING IT WOULD MAKE THE WOTLD BETTER IF WE WHERE THE THIRD WORLD NATION AND THEY HAD WHAT WE HAVE HECK OBAMA PRETTY MUCH STATED THAT IN A COUPLE SPEECHES.
2- RIGHT WING BUSINESS ABOVE ALL ELSE INCLUDEING THE SURVIVAL OF AMERICA MORE CONTROL THEY THINK WITH THE RELIGION OF OBEDIANCE ON ITS WORKERS AND LOW WAGES BASICALLY THGEN THERES US IN THE MIDDLE WHO DO NOTHING MCCAIN OR OBAMA NO MATTER WHO WINS AMERICA WITHIN 5 YEARS WILL BEGIN TO BREAK UP.
at September 7, 2008 5:26 PM
MusHuntCowboy,
I think that the answer to your question, "how did they cope with the hours for whatever number of years" that they worked for Swift relates to the absurdity of the Islamic calendar--Muhammad insisted that a year be 12 Lunar Months without adjustment (an intercalary, that is, leap month is unbelief, said he)--so then, their year retrogresses through the seasons, and Ramadan has begun earlier that in years just past, meaning an earlier break of fasting.
Posted by: John C
at September 7, 2008 5:58 PM
September 7, 2008
(if this posts twice, sorry—I seem to be having some technical problems today)
From the historical record, Teddy Kennedy, the drunk-driving murderer of Mary Jo Kopechne, is one of the most guilty elected officials in opening the flood gates of destructive immigration to America of millions of uneducated and non-assimilating third world people.
Even though for driving drunk and killing little Mary Jo (he didn’t even try to get help to save her) and his only legal punishment was a one-year suspension of his driver’s license, he soon faces the possibility of a more severe type:
http://www.thepeoplescube.com/images/KG3/BFH_Kennedy_judgementday_50.jpg
http://thepeoplescube.com/red/viewtopic.php?t=1958
“The Immigration and Naturalization Services Act of 1965, also known as the Hart-Celler Act or the INS Act of 1965, abolished the national-origin quotas that had been in place in the United States since the Immigration Act of 1924. It was proposed by Representative Emanuel Celler and heavily supported by Senator Ted Kennedy partly in response to the Civil Rights Movement.” [and his liberal guilt]
“An annual limitation of 170,000 visas was established for immigrants from Eastern Hemisphere countries with no more than 20,000 per country. By 1968, the annual limitation from the Western Hemisphere was set at 120,000 immigrants, with visas available on a first-come, first-served basis.” [legal immigration is now up to at least 1 million per year!]
“Senate immigration subcommittee chairman Edward Kennedy (D-MA.) reassured Congress and the nation with the following:
"’First, our cities will not be flooded with a million immigrants annually. Under the proposed bill, the present level of immigration remains substantially the same ... Secondly, the ethnic mix of this country will not be upset ... Contrary to the charges in some quarters, [the bill] will not inundate America with immigrants from any one country or area, or the most populated and deprived nations of Africa and Asia ... In the final analysis, the ethnic pattern of immigration under the proposed measure is not expected to change as sharply as the critics seem to think... The bill will not flood our cities with immigrants. It will not upset the ethnic mix of our society. It will not relax the standards of admission. It will not cause American workers to lose their jobs."
--U.S. Senate, Subcommittee on Immigration and Naturalization of the Committee on the Judiciary, Washington, D.C., Feb. 10, 1965. pp. 1-3.)
We need a new “rebirth of freedom” and renewed defense of our Judeo-Christian culture before balkanization and islamification flushes us down the drain.
Posted by: In Remembrance of Ka'b bin Al-Ashraf
at September 7, 2008 6:00 PM
MusHunt,
The Muslim year is only 354 days long! The Prophet (Peas for Brains) was certainly NO mathematician nor astronomer, and neither is Almighty Allah, it seems.
Posted by: John C
at September 7, 2008 6:05 PM
I have wondered why muslims take jobs that have major religious objections built in.
For the same reason muslims take up residence in infidel lands.
Infiltration.
Integration.
Not assimilation
Take a look at this clip: (Fast forward video to marker 8:20) to hear Al Jazeera's Elizabeth Filippouli interview Midhat Ibrahim (Midhat Ibrahimbegovic?), a Kosovo national who immigrated to Sweden in 1952, in the main mosque at Rosengard, Malmo's poorest immigrant-populated district.
Elizabeth: "Do you think that Islam limits Muslims to fully integrate themselves into a Western society like Sweden?
Midhat: "Yes. Yes, I think Muslims can integrate. Assimilation, no. Integration, yes. The problem is that Christians don't know much about Islam. Muslims know much more about Christianity and Judaism."
Elizabeth continues: "Before I left, he cautioned me about the growing gulf between young muslims and native Swedes. Many people accuse Islam, and young Muslims have had enough. The conflict starts because young Muslims want to defend Islam. They want Swedes to know, they are not terrorists. It's ignorance about Islam that breeds conflict."Posted by: heroyalwhyness
at September 7, 2008 6:10 PM
Correction: "meaning a later break of fasting."
Posted by: John C
at September 7, 2008 6:12 PM
I give up; go figure--Allah (and the imam) only knows.
Posted by: John C
at September 7, 2008 6:14 PM
Thanks for the CNN clip link, Sheik Y, I hadn't seen that before.
Forgive me for wondering slightly OT but I've said it before and will say it again like a broken record -
Anjem Choudary is the most dangerous man in Britain - and probably the West.
at September 7, 2008 6:21 PM
People, click on "Consumer Feedback" and say your thing:
http://www.jbsswift.com/contact/index.php
Posted by: darcy
at September 7, 2008 7:04 PM
Hugh asks:
Who is in the INS? Who is deciding that Somali Muslims should come to this country at all? Whben was this decision made?
Exactly. How about consulting the citizens of this country who will be financing these "unfortunate refugees".
Wouldn't Jordan be a better and much closer place of refuge? Egypt? KSA?
/ I hear KSA is flush with oil wealth BTW
at September 7, 2008 7:58 PM
Hugh asks:
Who is in the INS? Who is deciding that Somali Muslims should come to this country at all? When was this decision made?
The truth is more insidious than many know. It was the U.S. liberal congress that passed laws that admitted muslims ahead of long lists of people waiting decades for admission to the U.S. While Congress adopted an Immigration Act that would equally admit immigrants from all parts of the globe not just primarily Europe, the legislators adopted special provisions giving instant and special priority to muslim immigrants from lands of "social strife."
What is not well known by the public is that the Clinton administration settled 350,000 Somalian refugees ahead of anyone else in the world. This is why burquas are now routinely appearing in Minnesota and Tennessee. These new muslim immigrants were given special priority because they came from a land of civil strife. The legislation presumed falsely that the muslim was as likely to be persecuted as the Christian in these African countries.
The fact that these immigrants may have caused the civil strife that allowed for them to be settled on a priority basis to begin with was not considered in legislation passed under Ted Kennedy and his ilk.
Imagine the Somalis virtually all muslims were given special priority over all other waiting immigrants worldwide for admission to the United States ahead of anyone else. They were put ahead of the line!!!! By law American immigrant authorities admitted 350,000 muslim refugees from Somalia alone in 1990 to 2000. These preferential admissions went to muslims also from Sudan, Eritrea, Ethiopia and Bosnia.
Americans remember to cashier the scoundrel legislators in November. Elect Tancredo and others like him! Put an end to the madness in American immigration policies.
Posted by: David England
at September 7, 2008 9:21 PM
I hope jihadwatch reader 'John' is directing his 'contact' to jihadwatch and other useful sites; so that, perhaps, she can in turn, if satisfied, direct others. Her particular role would mean that she sees everyone in the place, in time.
I hope he's given her copies of the 'PIG to Islam and the Crusades' and 'Islam Unveiled' and 'Onward Muslim Soldiers'; or even just a printout of those articles by Hugh Fitzgerald entitled 'Basic Jihad' and 'Islam 101'; and he could always buy a copy of the *Spanish* translation of the 'PIG' - there is one - for her to pass on to anyone sympathetic among the Spanish-speaking workforce. Brianna Castillo and Joann Lopez sound cranky enough to find Mr Spencer's 'PIG' illuminating.
Is there a chaplain attached to the plant? Do those Spanish workers attend the Catholic church or churches in town? Copies of the Spanish translation of 'PIG to Islam and the Crusades' might be discreetly offered to the parish priests, and donated to the "Spanish books" section of the town libraries
Anyone reading this know enough Spanish to translate some of Hugh's best efforts?
Has 'Islam: What the West Needs to Know' been dubbed or subtitled in Spanish, yet?
I know that 'Fitna' has been subtitled in Spanish. 'John', you could try getting hold of a copy of 'Fitna' with the Spanish subtitles, and again, passing it on to your neighbour, she should know who to give it to. Let it circulate in English and Spanish among the non-Muslim employees!
Final note: the 'inside report', as opposed to the official newspaper version, did not merely mention damage to company property.
It also mentioned an assault on a non-Muslim woman: 'John' reported - "My neighbor said that the medical department rendered treatment to one non-Muslim female worker who was assaulted during the melee."
Assault is a crime. I presume this criminal assault has been reported and that the police are investigating?
Any lawyers reading here, today, who might consider getting in touch with 'John' via Mr Spencer, and offering their services [pro bono, of course] - through 'John' and his neighbour, to the victim of this assault?
at September 7, 2008 10:28 PM
Robert,
The essential "problem" really isn't whether the Somalis are allowed to wear special (possibly liability-increasing) loose clothing or coffee sacks over the women's heads. The problem is that ISLAM has a deeply seated inheritance-supremacy rule (and the social fabric to vehemently support it) that ensures that ISLAM will overtake every religion in every country where it is allowed to ferment.
Muslim man + non-Muslim woman:
... woman doesn't need conversion,
... but all kids are Muslim from birth.
Muslim woman + non-Muslim man:
... man MUST convert to marry woman.
... All kids are Muslim from birth.
Islam converts all men to Islam (for that good old Islamic male supremacy thing), forces all children to Islam, and ensures that each fecund generation will have more Islamic conversions until totality is reached. There isn't even the Judeo-Christian idea of a Barmitzvah or Confirmation, where a cognizant, almost-adult teen is allowed to 'confirm' his or her faith (or to NOT be so inclined, if he or she chooses).
Do I worry about this? Yes: for when any culture, society, cabal or cult has its own rules that are in turn constitutionally protected under the guise of freedom-of-religion ... and when those rules are expressedly poised to overthrow an make permanent the DISPLACEMENT of a prior culture, I quail at the odds that our pacifist, tree-hugging culture (which is a good thing!) will at all be able to survive. I suppose it will for as long as I'm alive.
But demographically? The Borg is here, and it IS assimilating the open, free, and surprisingly uncaring culture of the West.
GoatGuy
Posted by: GoatGuy
at September 7, 2008 11:33 PM
Doesn't an employer have the right to FIRE employees who are destructive? What are they? Sissies!
Here's a chance for more illegal immigrants to take up the slack and fill the empty jobs! (Illegal immigration is beginning to look better and better!) I'd rather have the illegals than the Muslims!
Posted by: angryamerican
at September 8, 2008 1:04 AM
" ... I quail at the odds that our pacifist, tree-hugging culture (which is a good thing!) will at all be able to survive. I suppose it will for as long as I'm alive."
Posted by: GoatGuy
GoatGuy,
I have often told my friends I am glad I won't be around 50 years from now to see how much of Western civilization has been eaten up by this miserable cancer of Islam.
Posted by: Paleologus
at September 8, 2008 1:32 AM
Clinton's admission of 350,000 Muslims agrees with his entire pro-Islamic stance from treating terrorism as a crime, to bombing Serbia and aiding the Kosavo Islamists, to passing on the opportunity to get Bin Laden (twice). The democrats are making another pitch to the Islamists in this election, giving prominent Islamists front-line exposure at their convention. IT can be assumed that Obama's dhimmihood will go well beyond Clinton's.
The alliance between the State Department, Swift, Tyson, and other employers who are taking on large blocks of Muslims as employees amounts to subversion with Trojan Horses all over the country. Bush's myopia ("a religion of peace")has resulted in no overview of the State Department, which is peppered with Arabists and Norquist's Islamic appointees. Had Bush not been so blind, he might have reversed this subversion. Nice legacy Mr. Bush.
Posted by: Jimmy Bones
at September 8, 2008 2:44 AM
Sheik! I didn't even realize I already knew about this guy. I had read about him on AIM months ago. It's like he takes lessons from John Esposito.
Also, I was thinking about it. It's not enough that we demand that the Swift plant fire the Somalis who walked off the job and destroyed property. Any white or Hispanic person would be prosecuted for that behavior. I'm going to hammer home that Swift's not firing and not prosecuting them is one of the most shameless acts of racism to have taken place in the free world in my lifetime. It's not of course, but I'll be making out to be such.
Posted by: jdamn
at September 8, 2008 3:56 AM
Sheik! I didn't even realize I already knew about this guy. I had read about him on AIM months ago. It's like he takes lessons from John Esposito.
Also, I was thinking about it. It's not enough that we demand that the Swift plant fire the Somalis who walked off the job and destroyed property. Any white or Hispanic person would be prosecuted for that behavior. I'm going to hammer home that Swift's not firing and not prosecuting them is one of the most shameless acts of racism to have taken place in the free world in my lifetime. It's not of course, but I'll be making it out to be as such.
Posted by: jdamn
at September 8, 2008 3:56 AM
E-mail below...start protesting but nicely, please. This has to stop and when they realise the public is also offended, maybe they will stop this mess. Do what CAIR does. It is effective.
jbsswift_consumer@jbsswift.com
retailsales@jbsswift.com
E-Commerce@jbsswift.com
at September 8, 2008 4:07 AM
Muslims don't integrate... so what do we do? Invite more!
Posted by: Stefcho
at September 8, 2008 4:48 AM
There was the white thrash, the black thrash, now the Muslim thrash, who, given their voice, as Thomas Jefferson advocated, that the least is not the lost, did find out that their voices can be heard, even the voices voice infantile desires, such as break time is anytime: capitalism is run on nobody's discipline but capitalism's discipline, otherwise it would have proved the failure of abundance for the already wealthy vs those desiring wealth who drive around in BMW's, not Yaris's, and still whine that fair deals are for the blue blood and not for the no-blood. Now come the Muslims, acting like complaining and whining white Americans, never satisfied with the abundance produce by democracy, the brainchild of capitalism, finding something wrong where everything is right: Welcome to the American way of life, Muslims, you're now home - hi, hi, hi, Could you believe that Muslims have American sentiments, like gripes, groans and greed?
Lolo Bola
Posted by: jmbennettusa
at September 8, 2008 5:00 AM
I would not buy any food product processed by Muslims. The chances that contamination could occur is high e.g. in England where faeces were added to a chocolate cake.
Somalis Muslims must be the worst kind of immigrants you could have. They have totally wrecked their own country with unrelenting violence and wars to promote Islam and are now comming to do the same to yours.
Posted by: Tommo
at September 8, 2008 5:19 AM
jimbennettusa, what are you on about? When did other American religions demand prayer during work time? When did Jews, Christians demand everyone change their meal times because they are fasting? When did Hindus and Buddhists demand Americans not eat meat around them and meditate certain hours at work or for that matter, have their own meditation places? Get on with reality.
Posted by: herself
at September 8, 2008 6:39 AM
*please excuse my spelling* i was told a couple of years ago that a group of wealthy braziallians bought out swift? does anyone know if this is true? if it is true, then why would they care about who they hire and at what consequences it might have on this country or its people.
Posted by: Kurara
at September 8, 2008 7:46 AM
I agree with you, RS. This isn't so much about accommodating a majority as it is about islam getting a foot in the door. Similar accommodations are not being made for other groups, but rather employees of other faiths are told to find a more accommodating job.
And for what other group would Swift (and other companies) tolerate blatant challenges to authority? The company compromised with an 8pm break, but the muslims took their break at 7:30, as they initially wanted. Were any of them disciplined or fired? Any other group would have been.
It looks like violent muslim 'protests' we've been witnessing over the years is finally paying off. Corporate management now fears riling the ever offended "religion of peace'.
Posted by: DJM
at September 8, 2008 7:57 AM
Is this the same Greeley, Colorado that the father of the jihadists, Sayyid Qutb, lived in and thus began his hatred for America? Hope there is not another aspiring Qutb in Greeley!
http://www.smithsonianmag.com/history-archaeology/presence-feb06.html
A Lesson In Hate: How an Egyptian student came to study 1950s America and left determined to wage holy war
"Before Sayyid Qutb became a leading theorist of violent jihad, he was a little-known Egyptian writer sojourning in the United States, where he attended a small teachers college on the Great Plains. Greeley, Colorado, circa 1950 was the last place one might think to look for signs of American decadence......He seethed at the brutishness of the people around him: the way they salted their watermelon and drank their tea unsweetened and watered their lawns. He found the muscular football players appalling and despaired of finding a barber who could give a proper haircut.
".......a direct line of influence runs from Sayyid Qutb to Osama bin Laden, and to bin Laden’s Egyptian partner in terror, Ayman al-Zawahiri. From them, the line continues to another quietly seething Egyptian sojourning in the United States—the 9/11 hijacker Mohammed Atta.....
So what happens in Greeley IS important.
at September 8, 2008 9:51 AM
Egypt put Sayyid Qutb, may he fry up extra-crispy in hell, where he belonged, ungrateful pschyo that he was. They put him n prison and then on the gallows. And yes, it was the same Greeley. He hated white people. He hated Americans.
And for what other group would Swift (and other companies) tolerate blatant challenges to authority?
For nobody else. That's why you need to call them and tell them that they can never violate American labor laws again, that they must fire and prosecute every single worker who destroyed property, and that whoever injured the woman must be charged with a hate crime.
970.506.8000
Call and rant until they shut down their phones. Email is good, but it can be deleted en masse. People will have to listen and act like they care if you call. Do it again and again until you get word that those workers have all been fired and arrested and that whoever hurt that woman will be charged with a hate crime. And call them RACIST as many times as you can.
Posted by: jdamn
at September 8, 2008 10:36 AM
Bush's myopia ("a religion of peace")has resulted in no overview of the State Department, which is peppered with Arabists and Norquist's Islamic appointees. Had Bush not been so blind, he might have reversed this subversion. Nice legacy Mr. Bush.
Jimmy Bones, while Bush's myopia is not for the benefit of the nation, it has guaranteed himself and his buddies contracts, work and profits for years and years, fighting his wars on one hand, and catering to the refugee industry on the other. Pretty slick, in an evil sort of way.
Posted by: Shakey_Premise
at September 8, 2008 11:37 AM
here's another company to add to tyson wich has lost any future sales of any of their products by me.
Posted by: AllahSnackbar
at September 8, 2008 11:53 AM
"According to my neighbor, there was growing tension within the plant during the swing shift on Friday, 9-5-08. During the afternoon she walked through the plant at the request of management to help identify any Muslims who might be in distress from not eating anything during the day. She told me that there were Muslim men congregated in groups..."
It sounds to me like the woman was in serious physical danger. Groups of hostile, Moslem supremacist males notoriously think they have a birthright to gang-rape non-Moslem women.
at September 9, 2008 6:06 PM


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