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Muslims are not only "over-represented" in prisons, but they also find prisons the perfect place to conduct Da'wa among the indigenous non-Muslims. The latter, for whom life has proven to be simply too much, may well welcome the Total Regulation of Life (do this, don't do that) that Islam provides. And what's more, Islam justifies their past, present, and future criminal behavior, insofar as it is directed -- and how! -- against Infidels. More than one imam has suggested that helping yourself to the property of Infidels without their permission is simply to be seen as helping oneself to the Jizyah that is owed, but until Muslims rule, cannot be forcibly extracted.
Furthermore, the more Muslims there are, and the more they are known for their solidarity, their violence, and their aggression, the more likely it is that non-Muslims, unless they are absolutely certain of being in the great majority, will -- out of fear, or out of a desire to turn aside Muslim wrath -- make themselves more accessible to and even more likely to accept the message of Muslim proselytizers. These proselytizers may be prison chaplains, paid for of course by the Infidel state, or fellow prisoners who are Muslims, eager to win points in Heaven by making more converts -- that is, signing up more recruits for the Army of Islam.
Muslim prisoners, where they are not native-born citizens, such as those at Guantanamo, should be deported. They are too expensive to maintain. And they will use their time in prison to conduct Da'wa -- in other words, to further the Jihad by spreading Islam. We can't have that. It does us harm. We cannot keep pretending that Islam is only, or mainly, a "religion." It isn't. Start making sense. Start segregating Muslim prisoners in special prisons or sections of prisons so that they cannot conduct Da'wa. And subject them to as much counter-Da'wa as is possible. For a few, if given the chance to read Ali Sina, Ibn Warraq, and others, the arguments against this belief-system which so obviously lends itself to totalitarianism, as a Total Regulation and Total Explanation, may finally win them over.
Listen to Spinoza, Hume, Voltaire, Diderot, Tocqueville, John Quincy Adams, Churchill, and others less known (from Ricoldo da Montecroce, a Dominican who knew all about Islam, on up). Ignore those who pooh-pooh the cassandra cries. Cassandra was right.
People will vary on what they think explains the incredible negligence of political and media elites in Europe, over the past three to four decades of virtually unhindered Muslim migration into almost every Western country. People will vary on what they think should now be done to deal with the consequences of that migration, and on what makes sense, and what is merely whistling in the dark.
But no one who is both intelligent and well informed can deny the truth of the following sentence:
The large-scale presence of Muslims in the countries of Western Europe has led to a situation that, for both the indigenous non-Muslims and for other, non-Muslim immigrants, is more unpleasant, more expensive, and more physically dangerous, than would be the case without that large-scale Muslim presence.
Take that last sentence. Admit its truth. And now refresh your memory about a statistic or two. Recall, for example, that in 1960 there were 1,500 Muslims in The Netherlands; in 1970, 1500; in 1997, 400,000; in 2008, more than one million. Recall as well the great and continuing spread between Muslim and non-Muslim birthrates. Ask yourself what it costs the welfare states to support these huge families, which take advantage of every conceivable benefit, and then some, even as they fill up the prisons, and of course keep the security services and the attendant personnel (detectives, judges, lawyers) expensively occupied.
Now ask yourself whether or not the legal and political institutions, the social arrangements, the museums and universities, the architectural monuments, all of the artifacts that are the result of the freedom of artistic expression and the encouragement of free and skeptical inquiry (philosophical, scientific) that are, in every conceivable way, flatly contradicted by the letter and spirit of the Sharia, of Islam, are worth preserving. And if so, what do you think should be done to preserve them? What is licit, and what do you think is not licit? Ask yourself. Think.
Now please -- write on only one side of the blue book.
Posted by Hugh at October 2, 2008 11:56 AM
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Some excellent points here Hugh, though I disagree about the feasibility and ultimate usefulness of segregation of Muslim prisoners from non-muslims. As you said, Islam is quite appealing to men who seem to be at the end of the line, so they will surely accept that Da'wa on way or another, just as sure as a chils will try and try again to obtain what has been forbidden to them.
Muslim immigration to the West, more specifically Europe has indeed become quite problematic, with the US on the same path though a bit behind chronologically. We have seen that the utter futility of governments to not only provide a solution to the problem, but to even identify it for fear of castigation by race-baiters and Islamic apologists alike, has merely been an accelerant to the root cause..Islam.
Islam is a virus not disimilar to the creature in The Thing, the remake, absorbing all in its wake, insatiable by nature and designed only to grow.
Recognition of this overt reality however, is far from commonplace. In fact, it is seen as racist and genocidal to acknowledge it.
Islam must be stripped of its facade of a "religion" and seen for what it is, the ultimate end of all things, non-Islamic. This is a stepped process that must occur before mass deportations and moratoriums of all subsequent Muslim immigration can be accepted and implemented, regardless of how vital these actions are and will be going forward.
That is the point that has been most frustrating. It is quite a daunting task to convince anyone that Islam is anything more than just another "religion of peace", "hijacked by a tiny minority of extremists", and no more inherently violent and intolerant that Judaism or Christianity, even with all of those claims to us being total hogwash.
There are no redeeming qualitites to Islam and there is nothing worth keeping regarding Islam.
Nothing.
Posted by: awake
at October 2, 2008 1:16 PM
The mentality of Islam lends itself to a criminal setting. You have a right to the property of others. Rape is okay, as long as it is an infidel (uncovered, of course). Murder is okay, lying is okay. You are superior to others, even if there is no evidence to confirm it.
Why is Islam so appealing to sociopaths?
at October 2, 2008 1:33 PM
Why is Islam so appealing to sociopaths?
Because their false prophet was one.
Posted by: ImNoDhimmi
at October 2, 2008 3:04 PM
Why is Islam so appealing to sociopaths?
Because not only does it validate, but it glorifies the basest, most abhorrent human behaviors, so long as they are committed against non-Muslims, who are the only ones worth victimizing anyway. We have the money, the brains, the good personalities, the talent, the good looks, etc. We have all the nice houses to rob, all the nice cars to steal, and all the pretty girls to rape. Islam not only appeals to the lowest common denominator, but it requires a narcissistic, sick, criminal, supremacist mindset. Like Ali Sina says, it just attracts bad people.
There are no redeeming qualitites to Islam and there is nothing worth keeping regarding Islam.
Nor is there anything aspect of it worth tolerating. I hate how it enslaved blacks in Africa and now it enslaves them in the free world, and nowhere does this happen more than in prison.
Posted by: jdamn
at October 3, 2008 4:38 PM
awake -
did you ever see the film 'The Neverending Story'? or read the book on which it was based, Michael Ende's 'The Neverending Story' (Die Unendliche Geschichte [1979])? The book is very intelligent and poetic and much better than the movie, though the movie has its moments.
In the book and the film, the realm of Fantastica is threatened by something called "The Nothing". The film's representations of its advance are truly terrifying.
After reading just some of the historical accounts of the effects of Islam upon those lands and societies that it swallows up, and in particular, as Hugh has pointed out repeatedly, upon the mind, the realm of fantasy and intellect and art and science, I have felt very strongly that Islam resembles 'The Nothing' in Ende's Fantastica.
Get the film out again and watch it and see what you think.
The popular storytellers of 'the west' - Tolkien, Michael Ende, J K Rowlings - sensed what was coming down the pike.
Tolkien the medievalist, I think, knew very well exactly where the real-life danger lay. Ende and Rowlings felt it and sounded both a warning and a call to arms, without being able to say exactly why.
Posted by: dumbledoresarmy
at October 6, 2008 2:03 AM
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