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More evidence regarding what everyone is increasingly becoming familiar with: Pakistan's perfidious nature. Friend-and-Ally Update.
"Pakistan's spies 'support terrorism,'" by Tamim Hamid for Quqnoos, October 4:
A LEAKED report from Spain’s intelligence service has accused Pakistan’s spy agency, the ISI, of supporting terrorism.How about to simply clean up its act?Broadcast on Spanish radio, the report said the ISI provides terrorists in Pakistan with explosive material and hand picks governmental targets for the terrorists to eliminate.
The leaked report comes at a time when the government is trying to shake-up the leadership of the country's army and security services, replacing the head of the ISI in a bid to clean up its image.
Some experts are pessimistic about the changes, which they say will not impact on the wave of violence that has spread through Pakistan in recent weeks.NATO, the US and Afghan officials accuse Pakistan of failing to clamp down on terrorists hiding in tribal regions along the border with Afghanistan, which has seen a sharp rise in militant attacks this year.
This week, the head of Afghanistan’s secret service, Amrullah Saleh, said Pakistan knew who masterminded the deadly attack on the Indian embassy in July and where he was currently hiding, but had failed to arrest him.
Posted by Raymond at October 4, 2008 2:55 PM
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WE DEMAND FROM AMERICA !!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/7648435.stm
How can they demand anything ??
pakistans days are numbered.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/7645522.stm
http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/NEWS/newsrf.php?newsid=10334
http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/NEWS/newsrf.php?newsid=10305
http://www.domain-b.com/defence/general/20080916_israel_army.html
Its going to be rough and nasty but its days are numbered.
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at October 4, 2008 3:36 PM
Mo Money Mo Money Mo Money Mo Money for the land of the pure. More like the land of thugs and destitute Islamic Jihadis. A land of hatred and barbarians bent on killing and hating non Muslims.
Posted by: savsiv at October 4, 2008 4:26 PM
One thought to make you wonder how could anyone think otherwise, if the Paks were serious about this, OBL would of been taken out long ago. no more money or support this disgusting piece of property.
Posted by: ZenaWarriorPrincess at October 4, 2008 4:39 PM
The difficulties we're having with Pakistan are hardly surprising, and are indicative of the weakness in our whole war strategy, which is to rely on "moderate" Muslim allies to police the radicals.
One problem is that we ourselves lack the knowledge to make a very clear distinction in these matters. Another, is that there is no such thing as a canonical, moderate version of Islam, so the difference is mainly a matter of personal belief and is therefore subjective and hard to identify.
Wouldn't it make more sense to simply treat Pakistan as the unreliable, failed state that it is, withhold the billions, and keep a weather eye on the nukes?
In any case, Pakistan's rulers will fight "terrorists" as long as they threaten their power, so there's a bit of a freebie in that, assuming the regime isn't totally radical itself.
at October 4, 2008 5:15 PM
"Pakistan's spies 'support terrorism,'" - JW
How else the Talibans could have picked up the momentum and threaten the NATO forces?
It took just over a couple of daisy-cutter weeks to make them run like hell to the rat holes in Tora-Bora. I think daisies needs cutting again, next time in Pakistan.
Posted by: MusHuntCowboy at October 4, 2008 5:15 PM
>>A LEAKED report from Spain’s intelligence service has accused Pakistan’s spy agency, the ISI, of supporting terrorism."
I'm shocked, I tell you, shocked!
Posted by: darcy at October 4, 2008 5:20 PM
I guess India has been right all along. It has always said that Islamic Jihad has been sponsored by the ISI and the money that they get is from all the aid we give them. They are murderers on a grand scale.
Pakistan continues the 1400 year Islamic Jihad on India and the world.
Posted by: savsiv at October 4, 2008 6:08 PM
"More evidence regarding what everyone is increasingly becoming familiar with"-
everybody except the state department...
Posted by: sheik yer'mami at October 4, 2008 6:14 PM
Jewdog
good observation as usual from you
I agree wholeheartedly with your post
Posted by: nodak at October 4, 2008 6:24 PM
sheik yer'mami: "everybody except the state department..."
The State Department is well aware of what's going on, read the 911 Commission Report. Or check out some of these documents at the National Security Archives.
The question one needs to ask is: why does State knowingly fund Taliban supporters and possibly the Taliban directly?
at October 4, 2008 9:46 PM
With friends like this, who needs enemies? Well, I'm sure there are a few there who really are against Islamic fundamentalism and the violence that begets.
Posted by: MorrisMinor at October 5, 2008 1:43 AM
The ISI just about built the taliban in the first place.
Posted by: joeblough at October 5, 2008 3:38 AM
Does anyone with half a brain really think that Pakistan is an ally at all?
They are the biggest bunch of two faced treacherous scum on the planet. We in England have put up with these devious manipulative scroungers for years and know exactly what they are about. Here in England the British National Party is calling time on their little game.
All our real allies in the USA need to wise up about Pakistan. They are very dangerous and cannot be trusted in any way. I do hope your forces have a contingency plan for neutralising their nuclear weapons One day soon it will be needed. Successive UK governments have castrated our armed forces, and we are fully committed in Iraq/Afghanistan, besides the RAF no longer have long range strategic bombers yet alone stealth ones, we do however have our Trident Ballistic Missile Subs. Pakistan is tottering on the edge of failed state status and has been for some time now. The ISI created the Taliban. They also shot Benazir Bhutto who would have allowed cross border hot pursuit of terrorists by coalition forces from Afghanistan, and US/UK forces to operate in Pakistan to eliminate Taliban/Al Qaeda cells. It is simple the ISI assassinated her.
One day those nukes will be given to "good Muslims" to support Jihad. I just hope we blast them to kingdom come before they leave Pakistan on a cargo ship headed for the "land of the great Satan".
If you don't want a real ground zero on your doorstep (and I certainly don't want to see one here in the UK) wise up to these Paks now, forget the ally stuff, these guys are your worst enemies. The wise here in the UK know it, spread the word before its too late. No Islamic country is capable of being trusted, just remember that. Deceit, deceit and more deceit is all Islam is capable of, oh yes and cold blooded murder of innocent people, they especially love that.
at October 5, 2008 8:35 AM
The question one needs to ask is: why does State knowingly fund Taliban supporters and possibly the Taliban directly?
Posted by: Mick_n_NYC at October 4, 2008 9:46 PM
For that matter, why does White House support wahhabis? You see, it is hard to say "No" by the president / commander-in-chief who was a failure at everything he touched, until he stepped in his father's shoes and got aid from Al-Sauds and Bin Ladens, until Amricans voted him to white house. Now, was the time to pay back his family-financers through American tax-dollars, blood and lives. Ofcourse, gullible Americans who had not studied their rich, spoilt president or his father, who reeked in $ for the Carlyle Group, using his presidential influence, voted him to white house.
Why would a corrupt and and timid president, who had failed repetedly, not return favours to his wahhabbi masters?
Ofcourse, knowing Islam, where do you think orders to cough up aid for Palestinians, Pakistan, Taleban or ummah in general, come from? Same wahhabbis who 'bailed-out' POTUS/Commander-in-chief's Arbusto.
You see, a patro-dollar, invested in the right family, pays in mysterious ways, in Dar-al-Harb.
at October 5, 2008 9:17 AM
And yet, US is prepared to arm these treacherous people up to their teeth in the latest military hardware without as much as a scant regard for its consequence to the Indians. How are the F16s going to help Pakistan fight Taliban when the very same, and more sophisticated armoury and technology has failed the best equipped army in the world? No, those drones are aimed squarely towards the east of their borders, and the US knows it.
And who is counting the billions of dollars in “aid” rammed down those ungrateful throats?
The more Pakistanis burn US flags, the more dollars are thrown at them, the more street marches and effigy burning against the US, the more they are rewarded by their kuffar friends with help and support.
Some in the US and the West have only recently started seeing the ugly face of Pakistani jihadists, whereas Indians had to endure their ire for decades and that of the penchant for blood in islam for centuries.
Every bullet, every last dime that is given to Pakistan is spent in undermining India, be it in sabotaging her economic infrastructure and endeavour to terrorising largely docile, stupid and ignorant Hindus. US hands are dripping with the blood spilled on the streets of Srinagar, Mumbai, Surat, Godhra, Delhi, Hydrabad etc. The mutilated bodies, the orphaned kids and widowed mothers are a direct consequence of unashamed US support of Pakistan.
What exactly is the hold that Pakistan has over the US? Or is that Indians, whose idol worshipping paganistic rituals are far more despicable and worrying to the US mindset, butchering of whom – albeit by proxy, but still at the hands of zealots who lay claim to a common ancestry of faith as Christians, is seen to be doing God’s work by many in Washington DC and Whitehall.
Shame on you all!
at October 5, 2008 9:46 AM
11 Billion, = 130 million US dollars a month for aid to Pakistan since 9/11. And this is a drop in the bucket compaired to all the billions sent to other Muslim countries as [AID]. No, lets call it what it is, [Tribute] as it was called in the Barbary wars. The Barbary pirates being [THE] terrorist of that day. Those wars stopped only when we stopped chasing the terrorists and attacked the countries that harbored them.
United States and the Barbary Wars;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbary_Pirates
We need only to look at history to see where we're going if we don't change course.
Same ol' s___ for 1300 years, death an destruction. Yet we keep feeding the beast hoping it won't devour us. But it only grows and spreads across the lands destroying everything in it's path. So filled with hate, when they can't find an infidel to slaughter, they kill each other.
Blue
at October 5, 2008 12:00 PM
And yet, US is prepared to arm these treacherous people up to their teeth in the latest military hardware without as much as a scant regard for its consequence to the Indians.
It is not "US", which includes you and me, but "US government", which does not include you or me. That clarified, Americans looks like Americans are as much endangered by their "leaders" as by the Jihadis.
Posted by: Alert at October 5, 2008 12:36 PM
Gosh! If you can't trust a Pakistani spy anymore, then who can you trust?
Posted by: Spot on at October 6, 2008 5:37 AM
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