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October 6, 2008

Taliban in Saudi-brokered talks with Afghan government?

Just yesterday we had a British commander saying the Taliban couldn't be beaten. And Friday we saw the Taliban saying they were rejecting Karzai's offer to negotiate. The clue to this muddle may come in the Saudi statement about stopping Iranian expansionism: they may be putting pressure on the Taliban and Karzai to wind things up -- and why not? Karzai's Constitution recognizes Sharia as the highest law of the land -- so that Sunni resources can be turned against the Rafidite dogs of Iran.

"Sources: Taliban split with al Qaeda, seek peace," by Nic Robertson for CNN, October 6 (thanks to Mackie):

LONDON, England (CNN) -- Taliban leaders are holding Saudi-brokered talks with the Afghan government to end the country's bloody conflict -- and are severing their ties with al Qaeda, sources close to the historic discussions have told CNN.

The militia, which has been intensifying its attacks on the U.S.-led coalition that toppled it from power in 2001 for harboring Osama bin Laden's terrorist network, has been involved four days of talks hosted by Saudi Arabia's King Abdullah, says the source.

The talks -- the first of their kind aimed at resolving the lengthy conflict in Afghanistan -- mark a significant move by the Saudi leadership to take a direct role in Afghanistan, hosting delegates who have until recently been their enemies....

According to the source, fugitive Taliban leader Mullah Mohammed Omar -- high on the U.S. military's most-wanted list -- was not present, but his representatives were keen to stress the reclusive cleric is no longer allied to al Qaeda.

Details of the Taliban leader's split with al Qaeda have never been made public before, but the new claims confirm what another source with an intimate knowledge of the militia and Mullah Omar has told CNN in the past....

A Saudi source familiar with the talks confirmed that they happened and said the Saudis take seriously their role in facilitating discussions between parties to the conflict.

A second round of talks is scheduled to take place in two months, the Saudi source said.

The Afghan government believes the Taliban cannot be defeated militarily, and the Taliban believe that they can't win a war against the U.S.-led coalition in Afghanistan, the Saudi source said.

The involvement of the Saudis is also seen as an expression of fear that Iran could take advantage of U.S. failings in Afghanistan, as it is seen to be doing in Iraq.

Several Afghan sources familiar with Iranian activities in Afghanistan have said Iranian officials and diplomats who are investing in business and building education facilities are lobbying politicians in Kabul. Learn more about King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia »

The Afghan sources wish to remain anonymous due to their political roles.

Coalition commanders regularly accuse Iran of arming the Taliban, and Western diplomats privately suggest that Iran is working against U.S. interests in Afghanistan, making it harder to bring peace.

Saudi sources say perceived Iranian expansionism is one of Saudi Arabia's biggest concerns.

The talks in Mecca took place between September 24 and 27 and involved 11 Taliban delegates, two Afghan government officials, a representative of former mujahadeen commander and U.S. foe Gulbadin Hekmatyar, and three others.

King Abdullah broke fast during the Eid al-Fitr holiday with the 17-member Afghan delegation -- an act intended to show his commitment to ending the conflict. Eid al-Fitr marks the end of Ramadan, the Muslim holy month of fasting.

Saudi Arabia was one of only three countries that recognized the Taliban leadership during its rule over Afghanistan in the 1990s, but that relationship was severed over Mullah Omar's refusal to hand over bin Laden....

Posted by Robert at October 6, 2008 10:01 AM
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if its Saudi Arabia then we should accept this peace treaty. Saudi Arabia is our friend. why i'd seen pictures of their leaders and our leaders holding hands. saudi arabia rocks!

/sarc

Posted by: theygottago [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 6, 2008 10:53 AM

I suspect that these "Saudi brokered" talks will have a heavy slant regarding money - I cannot help wondering if the Saudi governments heavy funding of the Taliban prompted Mr. Karzai to appeal to the Saudi's on this issue.

Posted by: Ken CleanAirSystem [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 6, 2008 11:08 AM

This is a publicity stunt. The Saudis don't do their real negotiations publicly. The Saudis were behind the Taliban from day 1, since they rooted out the Shi'ites. Afghanistan was a Shi'ite nation not too long ago, and most Afghans still consider themselves Shi'ite, which is why the Taliban was never popular. That's also why the Taliban has Paki support, whereas the old regime did not. Aghans miss the legal prostitution and the cursing of Ali, etc.

Posted by: jdamn [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 6, 2008 11:22 AM

I find it hard to swallow that the Taliban want peace. Am I the only one that doesn't believe this crap?? Another Muslim ruse if you ask me, getting more cash or buying time, whatever.

Posted by: gymgal [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 6, 2008 12:45 PM

Talk is cheap, and since they lie, it's worth virtually nothing. Only good out of this is Taliban and Al Qaeda will now be at each other's throats. Saudis can talk and hudna all they want, but in the end blood spilt in Afghani wastelands is all they will understand.

Posted by: Battle_of_Tours [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 6, 2008 1:21 PM

That U.S. strike that the Taliban's supposedly furious about must have been dead on. Time for a hudna?

Posted by: 3812Michelle [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 6, 2008 7:43 PM

Rememeber, Saudi Arabia, along with Pakistan and UAE, was the first to recognize Taliban. Later, Bush included his wahhabbi sponsors and same Pakistan, that produced KSM, Damiel Pearl killer, Omar Sheikh, nuclear black-markeeteer A Q Khan.
Thank you president/commander-in-chief!

Posted by: Alert [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 7, 2008 6:47 AM

Muse see video:

Burning down the house - How it all started:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RZVw3no2A4

Posted by: American [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 7, 2008 9:28 AM
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