Are transcripts available anywhere?
My PC is too ancient to handle most video.

Posted by: PMK at October 6, 2008 11:21 AM

Beautifull ! Exelent ! Most refreshig !
Very well done !
Hope to see you two here in Jerusalem on December 14th !!!

Wellcome.

( See the same comment on Part 1 )

Posted by: AbuAmnon at October 6, 2008 1:31 PM

If anyone would like transcripts, I'd be happy to do them.

Posted by: Mo at October 6, 2008 3:23 PM

(I should have added, if anyone at JW reads this, I can send my resume. I've done transcribing for work related reasons.)

Posted by: Mo at October 6, 2008 3:25 PM

These video interviews by Robert Spencer of Geert Wilders are good. They allow us to hear directly from Wilders and judge for ourselves about him, without regard to foolish labeling by this or that media outlet. One finds confirmed what one suspected, that he is not racist or far right, (neither of which I would want to have anything to do with). He's simply for the continued existence of religious and political freedoms in the Netherlands and Europe, and he is concerned that Islamic ideology runs counter to basic freedoms and will eventually destroy them if the Muslim population of Europe continues to grow. He calls for a moratorium on further immigration from Muslim countries. I can understand someone ultimately concluding that he is mistaken, but Wilders' views should at least be recognized as reasonable and based on substantial evidence. To ostracize him as though his views were were extreme or unreasonable seems to me ridiculous and/or immoral.

Posted by: traeh at October 6, 2008 8:10 PM

Muse see video:

Burning down the house - How it all started:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RZVw3no2A4

Posted by: American at October 7, 2008 9:24 AM

unofficial transcript of above video (Part II):

Geert Wilders: You are immediately, a racist. And people don't want to be called and don't want to be seen as a racist. So, this makes it very difficult for a strong popular reaction to come out.

Robert Spencer: I think this is something that you and I have shared. That we both have been labled this, been called this many times. What is your response to people when they say to you that FITNA is racist, or Wilders is racist. . .how do you respond?

Geert Wilders: Well, I always respond by saying that I think that they are not only very very wrong but it's insulting. You can. . . you don't have to like what I'm standing for. You can vote for another party. You can say that well this is a crazy guy . . .whatever. People are free to think and do what they like. But, I am anything but a racist. I'm a democratic politician in all my feelings. I fight within the rule of law everyday again in Parliament for my proposals. If they are rejected, I accept it and I try again tomorrow. I have nothing against anybody on the basis of race, whatever color they have, whatever sexual preference they have. I don't even have anything against Muslims. Muslims are equal to anybody. I have nothing against them. However, I have a problem with the ideology. So you should make, and I always do that in my Parliament. You should make a distinction between the Islamic ideology - which is very bad indeed, you know that better than I do - and the people. The majority of the Muslims in Europe are not criminals or are not terrorists. However, even by saying that, we should stop the immigration because even though those people are not criminals, if we have more immigration to western Europe, our culture will change, and unfortunately, not for the better. Racism has nothing to do with that if Muslims are integrating and assimilating in my country. They are equal as anybody else.

Robert Spencer: Of course. Yes, you say, speaking about immigration, it might be useful to ask you if the Dutch government has any mechanism, whatsoever, to try to distinguish between Muslims who are bringing the Islamic supremacist ideology and hoping to impose Sharia ultimately upon the Netherlands, and Muslims who are interested in assimilating? Are they even making any attempt to distinguish between the two of them?

Geert Wilders: No. Really, not. The only attempt they do, but it's a really different cup of tea. . .they ask people to go to a course in order to not only to learn the language but to get acquainted with the values of the Netherlands. But then again, last year we spent hundreds of millions of Euros in order to achieve that. But the classes are empty. Two thirds are empty because they are not attending. Why are they not attending? A) because they are not interested. B) because there is no penalty if they don't come. We are not saying that well, you are , we spend a lot of taxpayers money for you to integrate in our society. You are welcome to do that. But if you don't come, please leave our country. We are not doing that. so there is no incentive at all to go. Then again, I think, and I will be in favor now after all the problems that we have and the demographical problems that we face, that there should be a full stop, at least for a couple of years when it comes to the immigration from Muslim countries. Because I believe that, and you know the word taqiyya. When I was still at primary school, but you know what taqiyya means. It means that even though, there is no mechanism. Muslims can, I'm not saying they all do, but they can lie and they can be politically correct. But I'm very sure that if their numbers grow, and they will, but not even become 51%, but even a majority, and you know there have been studies where countries being compared where the Muslim population was 15, 20, 25, 30%. Even if they are not a majority but as they become stronger, they change their tune and the Islamization will be very hard to be returned to what we have today.

Robert Spencer: Quite so. We're already seeing that. You mentioned a little while back, Islamization and the demands for accomodation. We are seeing those increasingly in the United States. They've actually stepped up markedly just over the last couple of years. I have been reporting on them . For example, people saying in the Swift meat packing plants in Nebraska and Colorado that they, the Muslims saying they will not take their breaks at the ordinary time. They demand that the break schedule be changed so that they can stop work and break the Ramadan fast. The meat packing plant was happy to accomodate them but then the non-muslims protested and said that this meant they had to work longer hours. They were being put at a disadvantage vis a vie the employees. Now, my question is, the reaction to my reporting on some of these stories has been people saying that this is just hysteria. That it's hysteria if not something worse. It may be racism or bigotry. Here again, there are reasonable accomodations given to all sorts of groups. Orthodox Jews had won permission to wear the kippah in various circumstances, in various professional activities. Why should it be any different to grant a few cultural accomodations to Muslims. They say if somebody opposes this from Muslims, while favoring for Jews or other groups, then obviously there is something there that has to do with simple Islamophobia and nothing else.

Geert Wilders: Well, I believe it has nothing to do with Islamophobia. First, I believe it is very important to say that, we should, the biggest disease in Europe today , Robert, is a lethal disease, is called 'cultural relativism'. This is the first thing that we should fight and go to the doctor for and find a good prescription, by most political elite. People tend to say out of political correctness or post colonial guilt or whatever reason that the Islamic culture is the same as the Jewish or the Christian culture and tradition. But this is so wrong. This is not true. It's not even a real class of civilizations. I subscribe to what the brave woman, Wafa Sultan, said about this. She said its not even a clash of civlizations. It's a clash between rationality and barbarism. Backwardness. One difference as well is that Islamization. Islam comes to the West, not to assimilate, to integrate. This is a mistake that many people, also in my country make. And if you go out of the idea that people are here to assimilate, why should you not give them a holiday or let them work earlier or whatever. But this is not the truth. They are here to submit us. They are there to over rule us . They are there to change the whole country into their system. Islam knows nothing but Islam and it has no place for anything else but Islam. If we would accomodate it, and let me tell you, it will be not just one step. The day after we give them a public holiday, compulsory halal food in schools, the next day it will be something else. And the day after, it will be something else again. And this is very bad. I'm very disappointed in my own country, we have a cabinet member, she's from a Christain party, the Christian Union party, and she said publicly she could imagine that the end of the ramadan would be a national holiday in the Netherlands. Can you remember a Christian member of the Dutch cabinet. There was an enormous public outrage. I was happy that she said it even if it was stupid because it showed that the people are increasingly fed up by the accomodation and the appeasing of the Muslim minority and more important, the culture. It's to describe this. This is, at the end of the day, Islam will destroy everything that we stand for. And the more that we accomodate them, the less we will get in return. I'm sure of that.

Posted by: heroyalwhyness at October 8, 2008 11:30 AM

Mr. Spencer,

First of all thank you for your books, I have been gaining as much knowledge as I can about Islam since I first went to war in Iraq in 1990. I am a very concerned American, I will continue to support your much appreciated work to those I know. I have been a soldier and a police officer, and I have seen first hand at Islam's work in their attempt to gain influence as far away as Egypt and the United States through terror. I was a police officer in a small American town, and I cannot tell you how many times I personally ran into Muslims that were venturing into those "gray" areas that could be deemed as suspicious activity. For example, photos of bridges and damns in a vehicle, photo copies of military ID badges, two Muslim Somalis getting "hazard cargo" permits to their CDL licensing, just to name a few. Trust me, all incidents I encountered were turned over to Federal authorities. Remember that I was one officer in just one small town in America, who knows what kind of numbers of similar incidents have occurred and are occurring now. One other incident that happened to my family this past weekend, my very young children were subjected to abuse at a retail store by a Muslim woman and her children, they actually treated us as second class citizens in my own country!! Her children assaulted my very young child and treated him very poorly. Is this what we are to expect in the beginning phases of their wanton control? I try not to assume sir, I stayed calm during the incident, can't say that for my wife and I don't blame her, but that is the way I felt during this brief encounter with Muslims in my home town. That we were lesser than they and it did not matter that my child was hurt, no apologies were given nor was there any discipline to her own children afterwards. Are things like this signs of the "Islamization" of a country?

Again thank you sir, and stay the course.

Kelly

Soldier, Police Officer, Citizen

Posted by: Kelly502 at October 10, 2008 12:16 AM