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Hate Crimes Racket Update: here are some interesting new developments on the Great Dayton Islamophobic Hate Crime Mosque Attack Hoax.
The police report states that the "victim" claimed that the alleged attackers were black males wearing baseball caps. Given that the entire incident appears at this point to be a fabrication, why would the "victim," or those who were coaching her, want to conjure up an image of menacing, Obsession DVD-watching black males spraying poison gas into the mosque? It seems like an odd choice for this little fictional account, given that Muslim spokesmen generally dismiss resistance to jihad violence and Islamic supremacism as "racism," and that such a false allegation could stoke racial tensions in downtown Dayton, as well as spark mutual suspicion between Muslims and non-Muslim black Americans.
The answer may be that the Islamic Society of Greater Dayton is moving its mosque to the distant and white suburbs of Sugarcreek Township -- a plan approved just days before the alleged incident, as this pre-incident Dayton Daily News article records. Whoever was behind this hate crime hoax may have calculated that any resistance to the mosque in Sugarcreek Township might be weakened by the proposition that Muslims were being threatened by black males in the mosque's present location.
Meanwhile, another hint that the people at the mosque know this was a hoax is that CAIR, which was actively involved in strong-arming the zoning board to approve the new mosque, makes no mention of the incident on its website, even though CAIR is vitally interested in such incidents and prepares an annual report on alleged anti-Muslim hate crimes. Certainly CAIR was initially interested: the CAIR-Cincinnati office even prepared and issued the mosque's initial press release on the "attack."
Also noteworthy is that Chris Rodda, the Daily Kos blogger who blamed Obsession and John McCain for this "hate crime," is now trying to walk back her story -- after the Dayton Daily News cast doubt on her report (after the Daily News itself walked back its coverage, much to Rodda's consternation).
Rodda built her libelous article on a third-hand report, from someone she admits wasn't at the mosque. But, hey, when you can score cheap points against conservatives, both against McCain a few weeks before the election and against the Clarion Fund at a time when CAIR was stoking the flames over the Obsession DVD, why not lie or at least exaggerate a little?
Finally, I'm told by my source for all this that the magic pepper spray can that was initially claimed to have been discovered several hundred yards from the mosque several days afterwards (and after police and fire personnel had already searched the area -- as the police report notes), but was later admitted to have come from inside the mosque, was conveniently found by the mosque treasurer. My source says that it seems clear that either the boy who was questioned or the girl who claimed to be the victim got into someone's purse inside the mosque, discovered a key chain pepper spray, and started playing with it (not knowing what it was) when it discharged. He says that it is highly doubtful that any charges will be filed or anything further will be said -- so as to protect the guilty (and to prevent police receiving the full wrath of CAIR for embarrassing anyone at the mosque for their fraud).
And for all of the innocent black males in the area of the mosque who were falsely placed under suspicion, along with the Clarion Fund, no apology will be forthcoming.
UPDATE: The estimable Aziz Poonawalla, an associate of the raving psychotic blogger Dean Esmay, was among those who rushed to blame Obsession and "Islamophobia" for this "hate crime." Subsequently he termed the discovery that the pepper spray was found inside, rather than outside, the mosque a "strange twist" -- which is an egg-on-the-face euphemism for "the attack was a hoax." But has Aziz Poonawalla issued a retraction and an apology? What do you think?
Posted by Robert at October 23, 2008 6:39 AM
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Another place where we saw the riff between blacks and Muslim fanatics was at the Muslim Day parade in New York on 9/11. Perhaps this will lead blacks to examine the pillars of their new religion and the historical context of Islam and slavery.
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at October 23, 2008 7:38 AM
I take it there no "boy who cried wolf" story in Islamic culture(s).
Why is it that the only verifiable "hate crimes" against non-nonmuslims are otherwise classifiable as pranks, like a ham sandwich in a bag in a cafeteria, or pretend koran desecration?
Posted by: Greek Fire at October 23, 2008 8:14 AM
another hint that the people at the mosque know this was a hoax is that CAIR, which was actively involved in strong-arming the zoning board to approve the new mosque, makes no mention of the incident on its website
Perhaps CAIR doesn't want any more evidence to show their lack of credibility. Never mind that CAIR jumps to conclusions all the time.
Also, CAIR is aware that lots of us infidels are keeping an eye on their doings now.
Posted by: Always On Watch at October 23, 2008 8:21 AM
This fake attack was reported on overseas : The UK Daily Mail reposted the original article's link in their world news round up section. For some reason, they haven't bothered to post the updates showing the "hate crime" was a fake.
The original article was also posted to some of my nonpolitical sites-the comments were full of angsty idiocies about how all religions are equally good (or bad), that "fundies" are just as much of a threat as jihadis, that islam doesn't really encourage terrorism etc etc etc-at least there, the updates WERE posted ; I saw to that!
at October 23, 2008 8:44 AM
With regard to the Daily Kos blogger, Chris Rodda (liarsforjesus@aol.com), who helped inflame the race hatred in this incident, another Daily News article makes this critical statement:
Rodda, who calls herself a novice blogger, was among the first to post an entry about the incident. Her entry, posted Sunday, titled "Muslim Children Gassed at Dayton Mosque After Obsession DVD Hits Ohio," was immediately picked up by other sites and generated thousands of comments on the Web.Rodda said she "sensationalized" the headline on her blog to draw attention.
"I was mad, so I sort of shot from the hip," Rodda said, adding she has not talked to any law enforcement agencies, hospital officials or Islamic Center president Dr. Tarek Sabagh. She said her information came from people who know some people that attend the mosque.
Gee, the only thing she missed was to claim that the John McCain campaign had authorized the use of Zyklon B. Can Rodda be sued for this in light of her admission?
Oh, and let's not forget assclown extraordinaire, Aziz Poonawalla, who was quoted as saying:
"Anyone who tries to disclaim any link between this despicable attack and the release of 20 million copies of the 'Obsession' DVD is either a fool or a liar," wrote Poonawalla, who has been blogging on Islamic affairs since 2002.
Who's the racist fool and liar now, Aziz?
Posted by: scanderbeg at October 23, 2008 8:50 AM
What a coincidence.
I copied the update on the Dayton mosque hoax to post here this morning, and voila, there's a new thread!
http://www.daytondailynews.com/n/content/oh/story/news/local/2008/10/07/ddn100708mosquefolo.html
Posted by: darcy at October 23, 2008 8:51 AM
in her Daily Kos blogger reporting the said that
-- a widowed mother and her two small children, recent Iraqi refugees who were so terrorized by the attack that they wanted to go back to Syria rather than remain in America.
i say "AMEN". we should thank god and hopefully this women will leave. cause she has got children to turn into suicidal bombers if she wants.
at October 23, 2008 10:02 AM
The local street gang guys are a little slow on getting the word, but at least one of them is smart enough to see that muslims are making up sht and blaming it on them. He will spread the word.
This tactic will not be appreciated by gangsters who think it is 'they' who are supreme...
at October 23, 2008 10:06 AM
I love telling MoonBats that "Black" and "slave" are the same word in Arabic. OH how they hate hearing that!
Posted by: darcy at October 23, 2008 10:15 AM
Darcy,
the article you link to in the Dayton newspaper has a poll at the end: "Do you think there is anti-Moslem sentiment in America? Yes? No? Dont's know?" Right now the poll is running about 8 to 1 "yes". I've already voted, and suggest that other JW correspondents do also.
I then tried to vote a second time, and got the message that "only one vote per hour" could be accepted from each site. so maybe I'll try again in a while.
at October 23, 2008 11:14 AM
it is highly doubtful that any charges will be filed or anything further will be said
The rest of the community needs to protest this. They are not being accorded equal treatment under the law.
I will never again accept at face value any story of a "hate crime" perpetrated against a Muslim anywhere in the USA.
Posted by: PMK at October 23, 2008 11:25 AM
You can find on-line complaints about Arab racism from black Muslims (or Black Muslims, that is members of the Nation of Islam, who are not considered real Muslims by the Arabs) in this country. Despite the universalist claims made for Islam, it is, and has always been, a vehicle for Arab supremacism. The reasons are not hard to find. As Anwar Shaikh (formerly of Pakistan, now living in Wales) has noted in his book "Islam, The Arab National Religion," it is the Arabs who consider themselves, because they "received" the message from Allah, given to them and in their language, to be superior to other Muslims. Non-Arab Muslims are supposed to read the Qur'an, or listen to its recital, only in Arabic. Any other version, in any other language, is not the same thing. Compare this to the missionaries for Christianity, who in some cases became extraordinary linguists, in order to study native languages and dialects and translate the Bible into them. And they did this for languages that in many cases had never had a written form -- thereby helping to preserve the language for use, and for study.
And when a Muslim prays, wherever in the world he may be, he is directed to pray -- it is a matter of fantastic importance -- that he pray toward Mecca, toward the Hejaz, toward Arabia, the center of his being.
And the Sunnah, one should not forget, is at least as important as the Qur'an, and some Arabs say that it is possible to imagine a guide to life with the Sunnah alone, but not with the Qur'an alone. Both matter. And what is the Sunnah? It consists of "practice" -- the customs and manners of the early Arabs, that is of Muhammad and His Companions, that serve to gloss the Qur'an. And the Sunnah is derived from two texts - the Hadith (the written record of the sayings and acts of Muhammad) and the Sira (the biography of Muhammad, the first version of which appeared a century-and-a-half after the historical (if he was historical) Muhammad's death, and what matters is not what parts of the Sira were imagined (or which Hadith were made up, and by what means), but what Muslims take to be the details of the life of Muhammad, what Hadith they believe to be the most "authentic" in the compilations of the most "authoritative" -- by their lights -- muhaddithin.
As Anwar Shaikh notes, the Arabs of Arabia needed their own "religion" to compete with, but not to be completely unlike, the earlier-in-time monotheisms of the lands they first conquered, inhabited by Christians and Jews (who were not confined to the Land of Israel, but were to be found living, and for a long time, in many parts of the Middle East -- in Iran and present-day Iraq, and of course in Arabia itself, for how else could they keep being encountered by Muhammad, in Mecca, Medina (Yathrib), the Khaybar Oasis. That "religion" is clearly the result of taking bits and pieces of pagan Arab pre-Islamic lore (the djinn, for example), mixed with misunderstood and misremembered bits of Judaism and Christianity, and presented, to the conquered peoples, the Christians and Jews, as not the New and Improved Version of their faiths (as modern Western marketers might have done with a detergent), but rather as something else -- the True Version of Their Faith, which they had misunderstood and distorted or perverted. This made it less strange a faith, and with those elements of pre-existing beliefs to be found, however jumbled, made it easier for Islam to insinuate itself into the minds of non-Muslims who, purely as a practical matter -- to join the side of the conquerors, to be free of the many disabilities that as non-Muslims they would have to endure (the three choices were: to be killed, to convert, or to endure forever the status of dhimmi, with all that that meant). How many Christians in America today, if they had, in perpetuity, to pay $50,000 per head to remain Christians, would do so? For how many would there be a falling off, and how many each year?
Islam has been a destroyer of other cultures and other languages. In a world that worships "diversity," the thrust of Islam has been to efface diversity. Languages other than Arabic have received no sympathetic study or attention by Arabs or Muslim missionaries -- the effort has been to efface the many languages and cultures that could once be found in the lands conquered. There are, here and there, pockets of Aramaic-speakers in some Syrian villages, a handful of Mandaeans and Yazidis (450 of whom were killed by Muslim bombs in the worst act of Muslim terror in Iraq), the Copts (or what is left of them, they who once were virtually the entire population of Egypt) in Egypt, Assyrians and Chaldeans (or what is left of them, they who were once...ditto, but in Iraq), and so on.
The history of Arab oppression of blacks, whether those blacks became nominal Muslims or not, is too long, and the history of Arab enslavement of blacks started far earlier, was much more devastating in its effects, and continued much later, than the Atlantic slave trade. A scholar has estimated that because Arabs specialized in seizing young black males for use in harems (contrary to the Western imagination, harems were not just for the rulers), and would castrate their hunted prey in situ, in the jungle, the mortality rate among those then taken, by slave coffle, to the waiting boats that would take them to the slave markets of Islam, reached 90%. See "The Hideous Trade" or google that title and "Jihad Watch" for more.
Slavery is legitimate in Islam. Muhammad had slaves. Muhammad is the Perfect Man. Seventh-century Arabia allowed slavery. Seventh-century Arabia provides the Sunnah, the customs and manners that are to be followed. The Arab slave trade went up and down East Africa, with the chief entrepot for the local trade in African blacks being the islands of Zanzibar and Pemba, held by the Arab rulers of Oman. The Arabs also went deep into Central Africa, and into West Afrcia too, while the European slave-traders never managed to penetrate the interior, preferring to remain on the coast of West Africa and having slaves delivered to them by local tribes.
Slavery was not abolished willingly by the Arabs. It was stamped out, rather, by Western powers. There is no Arab William Wilberforce. There never has been a declaration, by any Arab leader, or government, or theological institute, that slavery is always and everywhere morally wrong. And there cannot be such a declaration, because Muslims are hemmed in by the Example of Muhammad, uswa hasana, al-insan al-kamil, and the practice of the Sunnah. If the French ended Arab enslavement of blacks in much of North Africa, it was the British -- the Royal Navy -- that helped stamp out the slave trade that continued between Africa and Arabia. This tale is told most fully in J. B. Kelly's "Britain and the Persian Gulf, 1795-1880.” But the Arabs still managed, as the British presence on the seas diminished, to resurrect that slave trade, which continued into the 1960s. The fullest story is by retreated from their to keep their slave trade going, and into the 1960s there was a flourishing trade. In 1962, just before slavery was formally abolished – because Saudi Arabia was not yet rich from oil revenues, it had to succumb to Western pressure – 20% at least of the population consisted of black slaves (for more google “Arab slave trade in Africa” or start here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_slave_trade).
Not surprising that the Muslim girl would make up a story blaming black men.. Nor is it surprising that the Arabs in this congregation want to move from a black neighborhood to a white one. Look at how unwelcome Arabs and Pakisetanis have made black Muslims who wish to attend, in any numbers, the same mosques with them, make blacks feel who come to “their” (Arab, Pakistani) mosques. Blacks are seen as fit fodder for conversion to Islam -- without really letting potential converts know much about Islam, holding back so much until they are deeply committed and can't easily get out -- so as to swell Muslim ranks and perceived (and real) power, but not fit to actually associate with Arabs and Pakistanis, who find such an assocation distasteful . Compare that with the welcoming practice of Christian churches, not least among those evangelicals who have become the butt of so much self-assured mockery.
Posted by: Hugh at October 23, 2008 11:46 AM
Not only are most forms of art -- sculpture and most painting -- forbidden in Islam (look at any major museum at the "Islamic art" -- Arabic calligraphy on ceramic plates, and Qur'anic calligraphy on paper), but it is difficult to conduct science within a society suffused with Islam, that discourages every sign of free and skeptical inquiry about the most important thing -- Islam -- and hence about everything else as well).
And then there is music. There is no Muslim equivalent to the church music of Christianity. Music is forbidden (Black Muslims in America may at times ignore this ban -- one more sign of un-orthodoxy). Wherever strict Muslims are in power, they attempt to ban all kinds of music, the folk-music that naturally wells up, as it does in Afghanistan, because it responds to a universal need that the Shari'a laws do not allow to be met. The wedding-singers killed in Afghanistan, the gamelan players in Indonesia disparaged by local Muslims, the RAI singers (often Berbers) threatened or killed in Algeria -- all of these are signs and symbols of the Islamic hostility to music. This does not mean that there are not singers. No one denies that there is Arabic music -- that oud, those other exotic instruments, or even singers such as Umm Kalthum. But the role of music is much smaller, and it is despite Islam and its discouragement, that music appears. The texts and the spirit of Islam, truly adhered to, would deny a role for music altogether. It distracts, you see: distracts from worship.
Sister Rosetta Tharpe begs to differ:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=NE1bjF_PgG8&feature=related
at October 23, 2008 11:57 AM
And in the earlier, pre-old-time-religion phase of her career, Rosetta Tharpe's performance begs to differ with, demands to ignore, just as much as does her later work, hostility to music. inculcated by Islam. And her many admirers -- whose numbers may swell with the two examples of her art posted today -- will agree:
her: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=aH2pKUes4tA&feature=related
Posted by: Hugh at October 23, 2008 12:36 PM
Given that Arabs consider blacks as "not fit to actually associate with Arabs and Pakistanis, who find such an assocation distasteful", how many American-born Muslims (as opposed to those who emigrated from their home country to the US) would follow the Koranic dictate to kill anyone who leaves the faith?
It seems all the apostasy-related murders occur within families where the parents weren't born in the US.
at October 23, 2008 1:14 PM
The refugees were apparently not politically sophisticated enough to know to blame a white male for the crime. They reverted to their traditional Arabic boogie man...an "ABD"
Posted by: Axel Foley at October 23, 2008 2:13 PM
@ Hugh
You noted that black Muslim complain of Arab racism. Arab supremacy is something embedded into Islamic belief and culture.
One complaint by a black blogger can be seen here
http://singularvoice.wordpress.com/2008/02/19/salafi-imam-we-must-believe-arabs-are-master-race/
Posted by: Axel Foley at October 23, 2008 2:25 PM
Islamic fifth column. Expel those Muslims who support the evils of supremacist sexist anti-gay sharia law.
Posted by: James Martel at October 23, 2008 2:37 PM
"I then tried to vote a second time, and got the message that "only one vote per hour" could be accepted from each site."
Maybe that "8 to 1" poll result is just a few Kos kids voting multiple times?
Posted by: DenverRodeo at October 23, 2008 3:59 PM
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