A new low, as usual.

Posted by: Voltaire at November 15, 2008 5:25 AM

"Nagla Al-Imam: No. Sexual harassment... In my view, the [Israeli women] do not have any right to respond. "

Rapes of women by Muslim men is not limited to Israeli girls....wherever Muslim have established Muslim neighborhoods in Infidel lands, one of the first statistics to rise significantly is the number of rapes...

Posted by: pulsar182 at November 15, 2008 5:35 AM

Wow - and the reasons to hate Muslims keeps growing....
I really can't (well, I can actually) believe that a Woman would really advocate raping other Women. That's the mindset of these primitives.

Could you imagine the outcry and protests from the Muslim world if one of us stated that Muslim Women were "fair-game" for rape due to them being inferior?

These people really sicken me.

Posted by: VampireJack at November 15, 2008 5:41 AM

Man oh man this is sick! How many more rapes will now be committed by thoses that pray and howl at the moon? When will it show up in this country? Then what will this country do about it ? nothing! It will go back to the age of oh she wanted it, or she asked for it,.........teach your daughters and wives to shoot and take up martial arts. A rabid dog should be put down.

Posted by: mountiangirl at November 15, 2008 5:55 AM

The resistance fighters would not initiate such a thing, because their moral values are much loftier than that
ROTFLMAO
arab men with loftier values that's funny all this female dog of a slime sucking bottom feeder proves that she is imo a idiot

Posted by: crusader stonghold at November 15, 2008 6:29 AM

What a Pig she is.

Posted by: flowerknife_us at November 15, 2008 7:04 AM

If this situation were reversed, and an American lawyer, male or female, had suggested that Muslim women should be sexually harassed as "a form of resistance," to the creeping advancement of sharia law in our country, they would be disbarred, lose their job, possibly jailed, and have every single women's group and Muslim "civil rights" organization screaming for their head - and rightfully so.

Where is the outrage among other Muslim lawyers and moderate Muslims? Where is the outrage among the mysteriously missing-in-action "moderate" Muslims? And where is the outrage among all of the women's and civil rights groups? The silence is deafening.

Posted by: George Mc. at November 15, 2008 7:31 AM

WHY does anyone in the West think peace is possible with THUGS?

That is all Muslims are! It is all they have been throughout history! THUGS!

Posted by: PMK at November 15, 2008 7:51 AM

And those idiots in the EU are more concerned with labelling produce that comes from Israel so people can boycott their goods.

Posted by: Celsius at November 15, 2008 7:57 AM

Celcius:

Those labels are useful for those of us who seek out goods produced in Israel with a view to purchasing them, whilst studiously avoiding anything produced in Muslim lands. Not easy, but very satisfying in a smug sort of way!
Perhaps their intention backfires!

Posted by: Sencit at November 15, 2008 8:15 AM

Pepper spray--don't leave home without it. Invest in non-lethal weapons. Muslim men are such crybabies, they'll still be boo-hooing by the time the cops (called on your cell) arrive to take the scumball(s) in.

OT, but only a little... some of the word is spreading. Even my therapist (yes, I'm a nut) had heard about the thirteen year-old rape victim/adulteress, and her punishment for reporting the sexual assault on her person. I think she (my therapist, that is) is starting to "get it".

Posted by: Abscedere at November 15, 2008 8:51 AM

What's the fuss? She's just being an Egyptian lawyer. That's the kind of scum that guild produces.

Mohammed Ata, who grew up in that milieu, was sure his father - an Egyptian lawyer - would be proud of him and he had good reason to believe that.

Posted by: swilliams at November 15, 2008 9:01 AM

Sencit, yes good point. In any case, so little is actually produced in Islamic countries that there's very little to avoid anyway.

Posted by: Celsius at November 15, 2008 9:04 AM

Celsius,
Maybe not food, but clothing is everywhere. Stores that once sold clothing made by Americans are now selling those made in Malaysia.

Posted by: PMK at November 15, 2008 9:55 AM

Instigating rape? Egyptian lawyer Nagla Al-Imam is complicit with the very next rape of an Israeli citizen by a Muslim. Nagla Al-Imam deserves the same consequence for her complicity as Yassin.

Posted by: heroyalwhyness at November 15, 2008 10:00 AM

Where does such an ugly display of immorality, and hate come from a women who apparently has a higher degree of education in Egypt?

Her comments are something I would not expect to hear from male counterparts.

Her words define a morality in Islamic countries that denegrates women to a cast of very little respect and yet there are Muslim women and women converts to Islam who continue to praise the virtues of the respect they get from Muslim Men. What isolated onclave are these women living in?

I hope there are strong condemnations to this Egyptian Womens remarks throughout the world.

Posted by: Mackie at November 15, 2008 10:14 AM

She's had her little moment of glory, hysterically appealing islamically to the hysterical Muslim masses. She must feel good. Now make sure she never gets a visa to travel anywhere in the West. That should make her feel less good.

Posted by: Hugh at November 15, 2008 10:34 AM

"I want these Zionist girls with Israeli citizenship to be expelled from our Arab countries."

well, so much for the Islamic virtures of tolerance, peace, and no compulsion..

Posted by: pulsar182 at November 15, 2008 10:36 AM

I am sure some university here in the US will offer her a position.
/Are we stupid or what?

Posted by: interestinconundrum at November 15, 2008 11:24 AM

And the next time you hear some moslem whine about Israel being an apartheid state, ask them why all "kufr" have to be expelled from "Arab land"?

Posted by: interestinconundrum at November 15, 2008 11:26 AM

More than anything, I think this woman resents Israeli women's freedom, particularly freedom from sexual harassment by ISRAELI men.

Since Israeli men don't make Israeli women's lives unbearable, this tragic person wants Israeli women to experience the misery that Arab women experience at the hands of Arab men.

That "resistance" bit is just smokescreen crap.

Note that she states that "most Arab countries do not have sexual harassment laws. Therefore, if [Arab women] are fair game for Arab men, there is nothing wrong with Israeli women being fair game as well."

Of course, I doubt that Israeli women are going to put up with any sh*t from any Arab. Don't a lot of them have training from the IDF?

Posted by: 3812Michelle at November 15, 2008 11:30 AM

"[Y]oung Arab men should sexually harass Israeli girls wherever they may be and using any possible method, as a new means in the resistance against Israel" -- and this from a female lawyer no less.

So much for "Sisterhood is powerful". But I guess "I am Woman, hear me roar" still applies; or at least "hear me mouth off".
She's probably been beaten one time too many by her hubby -- all the sense has been knocked out of her. Or maybe she's wife #4, and #1 thru #3 have ganged up on her, so she takes out her spite on other women.

Posted by: ebonystone at November 15, 2008 11:39 AM

Since Israeli men don't make Israeli women's lives unbearable, this tragic person wants Israeli women to experience the misery that Arab women experience at the hands of Arab men.

-posted above

Misery loves company.

Posted by: PMK at November 15, 2008 11:43 AM

"Where is the outrage among other Muslim lawyers and moderate Muslims?"

There isn't any. Kuffir girls are free game to Muslim men. Even if they don't engage in such activities today it is their right to rape and they will not give up that right by embarassing the guys in their good ole' boys network, just incase they might need to use that right in the future.

Maybe this lawyer needs a break from sexual abuse so she's pawning off the burden on the Israeli girls. With friends like Muslim women, who needs a rattlesnake in your backyard?

What's good for the goose is good for the gander. Women should keep sharp objects on their person at all times and when the offending member makes it's appearance it should be cut off immediately and the message should be clear, if you attempt to rape, you will lose your manhood, although I never thought Muslim men had much of that to begin with.

Or perhaps it's time to seriously consider this option: http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/gadgets/rapex-rape-prevention-123480.php

Ouch!

Posted by: Isabellathecrusader at November 15, 2008 11:45 AM

Michelle, you're right. She envies the fact that in civilized (i.e., non-Muhammadan) societies women can actually live with dignity as the rule, not the exception. She's Egyptian. Even if she's 60, fugly, wearing a niqab, and smells funky, she can't walk down the street without being not just harassed, but attacked. She envies our civility. Besides, since when have Arab men ever been able to behave themselves like decent human beings and not gone around sexually harassing and raping everything from women to little boys to farm animals? Israeli chicks know martial arts and they have guns.

Thanks again, RoP, for proving why, as a matter of principle, your presence in the Free World will never be acceptable to decent human beings, and why you yourselves can never, ever aspire to the most base modicum of humanity.

Sencit, you can't boycott Israel. That would mean no cell phones, no PCs, no polio vaccine, no modern medical technonology, etc., etc. I saw on the news the other day that Indonesia had installed a tsunami detection system. Guess who invented it. Surprise: Yids, not Muhammadans.

Here's how impossible it is to boycott Israel: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNCGEwjbgDk

Posted by: jdamn at November 15, 2008 11:48 AM

"[Y]oung Arab men should sexually harass Israeli girls wherever they may be and using any possible method, as a new means in the resistance against Israel"

Yes, and may only the ugliest, stinkiest, foul young Arab Mohammadans apply..

This is really hard work, but Nagla Al-Imam says that someone has to do it...

She would do it herself, but can't for obvious reasons...

Her role would be limited to interviewing the hundred thousand or so volunteers, and administering a written and oral test...

But wait, it's not so obvious, whats to stop her from making advances, and raping with a male cohort...It's a new form of 'resistance'...

Posted by: duh_swami at November 15, 2008 11:55 AM

Isabella - Yeah, Ouch!

Still, I think that every woman (including you muslimahs) who lives near rapists & Muslim men should get one.

Ouch!

Posted by: tanstaafl at November 15, 2008 11:59 AM

Of course, nothing should surprise any of us who post here regularly at JW where Muslims are concerned. Really, would there be anything that some Muslim would do or say in the name of his or her religion that WOULD surprise us anymore? The only thing that should truly surprise us is that we can still be surprised by any kind of Muslim behavior.

Islam breeds total contempt and disregard for the lives of non-believers should they do anything Mohammedans dislike. Hell, Islam has total disregard for non-believers even if they do nothing to arouse the ire of Muslims, which, of course, is easily done since Muslims allow themselves to be offended by most anything, overgrown children that they are.

I remember reading several months ago about Norwegian women being harassed and treated like prostitutes by Muslim men in Norway. Compounding this egregious treatment was a statement by some completely dense Norwegian official that Norwegian women should act with more decorum and dress more conservatively so that Muslim men would not so easily be offended by the sight of them.

I will await some equally obsequious dhimmi defending this Egyptian woman's statement. Just as we should not be surprised by Muslim behavior, so should we not be surprised by non-Muslim apologists for Islam no matter how wretched the Muslim transgression is which is being excused or defended. Ah, stupid world.

Posted by: Wellington at November 15, 2008 12:20 PM

Sounds like she is a great candidate for a teaching position at ETSU or UC Irvine, be lawyer for the MSA or maybe even CAIR. Shocking as this reads this is just one more example of what islam produces. As mentioned by several astute posters here, she is jealous of the freedom's that women have in Israel and other countries. Any Israeli woman should be armend with not only a sharp object but a handgun and pepper spary, bacon flavored. The truth is that muslim men do need to
be exhorted on by some female lawyer who still has to deal with being female in muslim society, to go out and rape Israeli women. muslim men have used this type of "weapon" as a form of warfare and jihad for as long as islam has been in exist.

She serves as a shining example of what a woman can become in islam. All those young muslim girls can now shoot to achieve this SCREWED up lady's approach to becoming a woman of "respect" in islamic society. Sad thing is that she is probably being used as an example of inspiration to young girls. And what muslim man and follower of islam would not want his daughter to grow up and be like this one! That's if the daughters of islam survive honor killings, stonings, FGM and other rights that are women are entitlesd to while in living under a rock and islam.

Posted by: PatriotUSA at November 15, 2008 12:28 PM

I remember reading several months ago about Norwegian women being harassed and treated like prostitutes by Muslim men in Norway."
-- from a poster

That is not what you read. What you read is about Norwegian women being raped, not merely "harassed and treated like prostitutes," by Muslims. 70% of the rapes in Norway (and the figures are similar for other Scandinavian countries) are by Muslim immigrants, who are still less than 5% of the population. One would like to know the figures for France, Great Britain, even Australia - where the famous Lebanese Muslims who gang-raped Australian girls was symptomatic of a larger problem that received at the time a lot of attention but has been forgotten.

Posted by: Hugh at November 15, 2008 12:33 PM

why is islam contemptuous?

because it's followers condone such criminal behavior - and why not, since there are no inconsistencies with the Qur'an and Sharia law here, and woman and children are fair game once the threat contains the ultimatum.

and this person will not be charged in Egypt, as bakar bashir will not be charged in Indonesia for inciting terrorism. at least as individuals we should not turn a blind eye.

Posted by: raven_ at November 15, 2008 12:41 PM

Rape as a weapon of racism, interesting strategy, but that concept is not entirely new. Only the fact that it is coming from a woman. These Muslim women have no compassion, no empathy for other women. They are not humane. They have the futile illusion that Muslim men will respect them, when they come out with things like that. But that's crap. Muslim men will never respect women. They regard them as child factories and objects of lust.

Posted by: epistemology at November 15, 2008 12:45 PM

This is what you get when a so-called religion condones every form of evil conduct imaginable towards unbelievers.

Islam is truly scourge and cancer upon humanity.

Posted by: waltc at November 15, 2008 12:49 PM

Jdamn:

I think you misunderstand my post!

Far from wanting to boycott Israeli goods, I actually seek them out!

Posted by: Sencit at November 15, 2008 1:02 PM

This message was not directed at Muslims. Muslims have no concept of rape and they believe this as a matter of principle. Once again Muslims have a message for the West designed to make them look decent (and yes, I actually do think that this is what his was) and they show their true colors, just like the "Palestinian" "marriage jihad." They put on a big show to make it look like the kind of marriage that takes place between decent human beings, but when they talk about it they can't hide the fact that it's about institutionalized rape and the sale of a human being into sex slavery by her own family, her former owners. We're supposed to hear about this and consider that this doesn't go without saying, that this is not engrained in the psyche of every Muslim in their deluded sense of entitlement and violent approach to all relationships between human beings.

Posted by: jdamn at November 15, 2008 1:04 PM

Rather a firearm than pepper spray. Rape is a physical assault that may or may not also threaten death. Shoot and shoot to kill.

Posted by: Civilus Defendus at November 15, 2008 1:05 PM

These people truly DISGUST me. Even when you think they cannot sink to new lows,, they outdo themselves again.

They are truly sub-human and brutish.

Everything is sex and perversion with them. They think even tomatoes and cucumbers are too much sex,, and that is INSANE!!!

They all have a *DIRTY OLD MAN*,, mind, and mentality,, the men, the women, and they poison their children with it too.

Islam,, just makes them despise everything life affirming and beautiful,, even the most basic need of every living thing on this tiny planet.

the reproductive need,, they make it DIRTY, the act of lovemaking,, a master/slave, owner/owned,

It's all just ugly, and hateful,, I am resentful and angry, that we have this sick and twisted element in our species. They are holding us back,, from evolving, and reaching for the stars.

READ BILL WARNER's latest essay,, he has the RIGHT IDEER!!!

Permalink

http://www.politicalislam.com/blog/you-only-need-to-kill-one/

solsticewitch13
"don't annoy the bikers
it's a islam free zone'

Posted by: solsticewitch13 at November 15, 2008 1:05 PM

And, surprise surprise, all those "women's groups" say NOTHING because it is coming from a muslimamamia chick. And when her cohorts gang rape her, and the stones begin to fly...She obviously has NOT thought out the situation; or, maybe I am mistaken...any sacrifice for the ultimate goal of making the world only for "ollah".

Posted by: TRSTHNTR at November 15, 2008 1:10 PM

Hugh: Thank you for the correction. My memory was somewhat incomplete about the Norwegian story since I had come across it months ago and, regrettably, it was even worse than I had remembered. The West let the beast in and now it's paying the price in one Western country after another-----and in many ways. Tragic.

Posted by: Wellington at November 15, 2008 1:10 PM

Filthy Barbarians, that's what they are! Off with their heads, if you know what I mean.

Yeah, another reason to hate Islam, Muslims, and now Egyptian lawyers.

Posted by: champ at November 15, 2008 1:13 PM

Solsticewitch, I have to take issue with that Bill Warner article. First, it fails to take into account the unbelievable Muslim capacity for denial and self-delusion, which is almost incomprehensible. They invariably explain away Muhammad by either upholding the belief that whatever he did IS the moral compass, by denying his actions, or by trying to justify them. Of course sane people could never ultimately resort to this, but Muslims can and almost always do. And barring that, there are the Koraniyya, the Koran-only Muslims, who realize that they can never explain away Muhammad, so they just reject the Hadith and the Sunna. Bill Warner is simply wrong about that one. Hugh is right. Muslims must be isolated and forced to live with their own failure until it consumes them. They must be deprived of jizya and the opportunity to parasitize non-Muslims. Then they will cannibalize and at some point relize the futility and the falsohood of Islam. I wish it were as simple as Bill Warner presents it, and I agree with him that we can't win a war against an enemy who we don't name. We have to shout from the mountaintops that we're fighting against Islam itself, and then and only then can we devise the right strategy and win the hearts and minds, but it is not as simple as killing Muhammad. That will certainly work for infidels and the hearts and minds, but Muslims are a different story.

Posted by: jdamn at November 15, 2008 1:32 PM

What a recipe for a free, civilized, productive society, eh?

Posted by: Mo at November 15, 2008 1:33 PM

Spoken as a true Egyptian lawyer.
But this is what Kosovar Albanians were doing to Serb women and girls since the early 80's, long, long, long before anyone accused any Serb of killing anyone. This was an organized Kosovo-wide campaign ordered by Muslim imams and clan elders. Serb boys knifed. Women and girls kidnapped and raped. Serb men kidnapped and tortured, impaled with broken bottles. And in 1999, even worse atrocities erupted, on a vastly larger scale, totally backed by the US, UK and NATO. Kosovo was where the bottom fell out of the Western world's morality. Nothing good can come out of that. 9/11 and 7/7 were but a beginning.

Ruslan Tokhchukov, EnragedSince1999.

Posted by: Enragedsince1999 at November 15, 2008 1:57 PM

Of course, nothing should surprise any of us who post here regularly at JW where Muslims are concerned. Really, would there be anything that some Muslim would do or say in the name of his or her religion that WOULD surprise us anymore? The only thing that should truly surprise us is that we can still be surprised by any kind of Muslim behavior.

You are correct, of course. One reason I come to Jihad Watch less frequently is that I know all the Muslims' tricks already.

The only thing that would surprise me at this point is if the Western media started reporting on Islam objectively. I don't know if they can do that, given their ideological blinders. But, on the optimistic side, I'm not sure their reporting on it is absolutely necessary to defeat it. I also don't know if it's defeatable, given it's fanaticism in a post-modern detached world. Even if you realize that their existential commitments are insane, that doesn't make their combined abilities less formidable in some respects, especially since they can count on so many naive Westerners, and perhaps most importantly, the Western media, to support them.

Posted by: venividivici at November 15, 2008 2:02 PM

I agree with Abdullah the Quasi apostate.

u peoples jest don't unnerstand Islam.

Rape deters and is a legitimate tool of self defense.

The best thing a Mohammadan can do when threatened is rape.

You can see that many Mohammadans agree with Abdullah and this lawyer, rape is resistance,
all Mohammadans are threatened, so the logical response is rape...and lots of them...

Don't you just love the way Allah has this all figured out?

Posted by: duh_swami at November 15, 2008 2:03 PM

This video clip will never appear on Fox News, et al, but I am going to send this out to as many people that I know; and then I will ask them to send it to their family/friends, and so on, and so on.

If we all did that, then think of the impact. Forget the news media, because they are stuck in a PC mire, but we aren't. If the stupid stuff on YouTube can make the rounds, then so can this.

I'm sending this out now to everyone in my e-mail address book.

Posted by: champ at November 15, 2008 2:25 PM

Rape is a weapon of war in islam.

We have this problem in the UK as do other islam infested lands.

Here are some links to a problem being faced by the Sikh/Indian community in the UK.

http://www.sikhnet.com/discussion/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1009&sid=5973cf7b7ed630b0163a2b5bf2e7267d&start=30

http://www.hinduunity.org/bewaregirls.htm

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/u ... 101793.ece

http://blogs.independent.co.uk/independent/2008/10/sikh-and-muslim.html

islam is a curse upon civilisation.

Posted by: apostate_islam at November 15, 2008 3:08 PM

"Leave the land so we won't rape you"

No surprises here; check history -- this same thing happened in Kosovo, the turks, and all islamic conquests for that matter.

Question is -- what are YOU going to do about it?

My guess -- not much. Trouble is -- the islamics are guessing the same thing.

Can't speak for the islamics, but I don't mind being proven wrong on this one!

Posted by: witness at November 15, 2008 3:40 PM

This is business as usual. If you are a Muslim claim victimhood and then commit an offensive attack. Rape away to your heart's content. When you are tired of raping and degrading your own girls you can go after the Israeli girls. Then little girls. Then little boys. Then the farm animals.

Gee whiz...do you guys ever work?

Posted by: Isabellathecrusader at November 15, 2008 3:40 PM

"proposed that young Arab men should sexually harass Israeli girls"

Well that's a plus really, what she's suggesting is that they don't do what they do now and sexually harass all girls, just Israeli girls.
It's a step in the right direction, if we could just stop sexual harassment totally, should be easier with just one ethnic group to worry about.

Posted by: Ian at November 15, 2008 3:46 PM

Is this part of their "stop breathing so we won't have to kill you" line of reasoning?

Posted by: Kevin at November 15, 2008 3:53 PM

""proposed that young Arab men should sexually harass Israeli girls"

notice how she did not propose that young Arab men behave like members of the human race...

Posted by: pulsar182 at November 15, 2008 3:55 PM

As for the rapex kit, a small version of the slicer & dicer might do the trick. :>)

Posted by: HouDini at November 15, 2008 4:15 PM

@ EnragedSince1999

Dear Ruslan, I know that you are damn right. In 1999 I was at a meeting of the Green Party in my hometown, in Bavaria on behalf of the Kosovars. Germany unfortutely was involved in that war, although the Germans should never, ever have attacked Serbia for a third time. No lesson learnt from history.

There were three of these Kosovars present, telling us how important it was to send ground troups and all that crap. Then the discussion drifted to World War II. One of these Kosovars said that Hitler could not have been such a bad guy because he had wanted to give them a state of their own.

The place suddenly got silent, everybody was embarrassed. The Germans are like that, bashful people. The only one who spoke was me, as I was not embarrassed, simply furious. But as you know it didn't help anyway. Sorry for that.

Posted by: epistemology at November 15, 2008 4:37 PM

A little OT, but goes to the root of the evil that is Islam.

Muhammad's drug induced, cult creation Islam is a worldwide cancer and we must fight it as we do cancer. Cut it out or nuke it!

Muslims follow these tenets of sedition in America.

"American laws will protect us.
Democrats and Leftist will support us.
The UN will legitimize us.
CAIR and MAB will incubate us.
The ACLU will support us.
Western Universities will educate us.
Mosques in the West will shelter us.
OPEC will finance us.
Moderate Muslims will fertilize us.
Hollywood will love us.
We will use your welfare system to sustain us.

We must never forget their strategy"

Provided courtesy of The Gathering Storm Newsletter

Posted by: HouDini at November 15, 2008 4:42 PM

Hi Jdamn,,

But I think you miss Bill's point. If the Infidel west,, starts teaching our own about the TEARS of Jihad,, our own people,, will be BETTER equipped to fight against the encroachment of political islam. Our own people,, will vote for the RIGHT politicians,, if they are educated and informed.

WE are the ones, the Infidels, who have to STOP this politically correct way we are dealing with this deadly threat.

We have to teach the REAL history in our schools. I sure as hell was never taught about the Turkish GENOCIDE of the Christian Armenians,, in school.
I loved history,, so I remember what I was taught,, islam,, was never taught truthfully.

If WE the infidel world,, take this power away from that maniac who started all this,, we in turn take power away from the muslims that want to force this upon us.

Bill says, in his essay,,

An ideological war would include a media that actually used critical reasoning and connected the dots in the Islamic violence that wracks the world with 12,221 attacks since September 11th in 39 countries.

Our leaders,, do NOT get it,, our people,, think the economy is the most pressing matter,,

Cash won't matter, when they nuke us,, security should be our highest priority,, but,, how can it be,, our leaders,, still CANNOT NAME THE ENEMY!!!

Pass out the movie,, Obsession folks,, that should be in all our arsenals,,

Tom Trento calls it AMMO,, I mail Tom, and say,, SEND MORE AMMO!!, when I run out of copies.

Ammo of the mind,, educate the Infidel world,, make our politicians,, understand,, that these nutcases,, MEAN to kill us!!

This is a ideological war,, time us Infidels,, start throwing this CRAP right back in the muslims SNARLEY faces,,

They have been griding on for 1400 years,, the destroyers of civilizations,, they haven't self destructed, when left to their own devices.

Only thing different now,, is the internet,, they can't keep their murderous past, secret anymore.

You and I are basically agreeing anyways,, we need to educate the west,, about the truth!!

Light and Respect

solsticewitch13

Posted by: solsticewitch13 at November 15, 2008 5:11 PM

That' actually fairly encouraging in a way. That is all surmountable and surmounting all of those things is inevitable.

American laws will protect us.

Only so long as Islam is recognized as a religion. Geert Wilders' party is moving to remove that designation. It was never a religion in Italy. The more they politicize it the more inevitable this becomes. It's one Supreme Court case away. It's not a philosophical debate they can win, either, and the more they keep pushing for Sharia in our courts the more inevitable it becomes that it goes to the Supreme Court. The more Islamic they try to be in America the less defensible Islam becomes. If people knew what Sharia entailed they would never support it, and the more they push for it the more the Average Joe learns about it.

Democrats and Leftist will support us.

And you will be their undoing.

The UN will legitimize us.

We will eventually leave the UN over the OIC's BS specifically.

CAIR and MAB will incubate us.

They will be declared terror organizations, as will all Ikhwan front groups and it will happen very soon. This will also make the Left look very bad. They will come to regret inviting Ingrid Mattson to the DNC. Obama will come to regret having advisors deal with with the Ikhwan.

The ACLU will support us.

Yeah, probably. But they will also support speaking out against you and the truth is your greatest enemy.

Western Universities will educate us.

One DEOCR case away and I filed it. Nobody from any Sharia state is qualified to attend a Western private kindergarten, let alone university. The law will recignize the degree of corruptness it requires to admit people from Sharia states and give them student visas. SOme students will get kicked out and sue the school that admitted them. This will cost the school a lot of money and most of their credibility. Other schools will learn from this.

Mosques in the West will shelter us.

Until Islam is outlawed. Plus, we're already monitoring them. Thank you, Patriot Act.

OPEC will finance us.

Everyone, even the Left, wants energy independence. Not buying oil from OIC nations is green. We will get it, too. Thank you, Japan.

Moderate Muslims will fertilize us.

And their children will assimilate and eventually ditch Islam, provided that there is actually any such thing as a "moderate Muslim." In America Muslims have to get jobs. That means that they have to work with non-Muslims. Isolating themselves in enclaves is far less doable here.

Hollywood will love us.

Hollywood has marginalized itself. It has lost all credibility and will only continue to do so as the Left loses its credibility. Plus, the prosumer movement will be the end of Hollywood as we know it.

We will use your welfare system to sustain us.

That may work in Europe, but in the US you have to get a job to stay on welfare. You also can't be married or living with your parents, so only single fathers are really eligible for it, if they adhere to Islamic law. Having social services checking up on Muslims is really just good news for the rest of us.

Islam will be its own undoing. It can't sustain itself here so long as we treat it realistically and pragmatically, which will once their BS becomes more apparent.

Posted by: jdamn at November 15, 2008 5:21 PM

This Muslim female lawyer doesn't come out and say that her recommendation has any basis in Islamic history & texts & law. But as pointed out by someone else, sexual assault has been part of jihad since Mohammed. So even if this Muslim female lawyer doesn't know this or doesn't have the texts and Islamic rulings at her fingertips to back it up, she shows that Muslims have these things in their brains as part of their being Muslim -- and this shows that just because some Muslims may seem to be "ignorant" of the bad parts of Islam, this doesn't mean they are not being motivated in less conscious ways through a more murky socialization process to promote Islam through jihad in all its ways.

Let's say this female Muslim lawyer really is ignorant of sexual assault as jihad in Islamic history & law. This doesn't mean she hasn't semi-consciously absorbed that over the years just by living in a Muslim country as a Muslim, and it seems like a good and logical thing for her to promote.

Posted by: DenverRodeo at November 15, 2008 5:21 PM

JDamn,, here is an example of what can happen when,, Infidels,, are informed about the truth about the radicals,,

http://www.meforum.org/article/2007

I love this part,,

>>>

The results of the Canadian election were an eye-opener because all Muslim candidates from all parties lost, with the exception of Yasmin Ratansi, who for some time has been trying to distance herself from her Muslim identity despite being the first Muslim woman to get elected to the Canadian parliament..

This is a clear indication that because of the incessant and unreasonable demands by Islamists, Canadians punished all Muslims. Most ordinary Canadians, well-meaning and decent folks, are fed up with demands for unreasonable accommodation and are no longer willing to put up with politics disguised as religion in the public sphere. Although Canadians are politically correct and diplomatic in public, the election result shows their true feeling about the trend that Muslims who may have an Islamist agenda are not welcome in Canada. Of course, the usual suspects are already screaming Islamophobia - again.

There is no rampant Islamophobia in Canada - only an attempt at gradual Islamization.

>>>>

The pen,, IS mightier than the sword,, PLUS,, added BONUS,, we have 5 BILLION Infidels,, they only have 1.2 billion, most following the primitive savages, who would rather kill than embrace love, light and life.

solsticewitch13

Posted by: solsticewitch13 at November 15, 2008 5:31 PM

There is no Islamophobia anywhere. When suicidally Leftist Canadians and Europeans realize it, you that that fabricated thought crime has been eradicated as a concept. Westerners may say one thing, but at the ballot box it's something else.

That's why the EU scares me: because most of the laws are passed in Belgium in secret, so politicians aren't accountable. The EU's shenanigans, particularly with regard to immigration and curtailing free speech, will be its undoing. One nation after another will leave, just as we will eventually leave the UN over their shenanigans. It all comes back to the fact that Islam is our enemy. Everyone will realize this very, very soon. And the designation of all the Ikhwan's front groups as terror organization will certainly speed it along. ANd their support for the "Palestinians" will undermine their "cause" as well.

Posted by: jdamn at November 15, 2008 5:56 PM

Yepper, I agree Jdamn,, and the trick is to educate people to vote correctly. If you are informed,, you will make a better choice on voting day.

WE won a second Conservative Government here,, just because, we educated people, how VILE the NDP were,, to have these islamists in their party, and how STEFAN (BARFFF) Dion,, was not a good choice either!

I really believe the Watch Obsession Campaign, is a GREAT idea. I have passed out over 300 copies of the movie so far, and everyone so far, is GLAD they watched it. Most of the Infidel world,, has no clue, about the truth,, and we had better get everyone TRAINED as quick as possible,, and START NAMING OUR MORTAL ENEMY,,

which is NAMED islam

Email Tom Trento,, get him to send you a box of AMMO, (50 Obsession DVD's), and start passing em out to your friends and family. This is a good start,, for our own,,

Ideological War,, against the 7th century.

Tom,, Darlin',,, send MORE AMMO!!!!

BEG!!!!!

solsticewitch13

Don't like seeing women, forced
to wear Garbage Bags (AKA burqua)

thinks of her eagle,, Jihad This!!

Posted by: solsticewitch13 at November 15, 2008 6:11 PM

"Westerners may say one thing, but at the ballot box it's something else."
by jdamn

Aaah, the "Mohammed effect".

Posted by: PMK at November 15, 2008 6:29 PM

Let the recommendation of Nagla Al-Imam be publicized throughout Israel. Let her words serve as a warning to all those naive Israelis who still vacation in Sharm el-Sheik. Non-Israeli Jews, or gentiles whose passports show that they have previously been to Israel, should also take heed. Unless and until the Egyptian government soundly and unequivocally condemns this barbarism and gives bona fide assurances that Jewish/Israeli visitors will receive proper safeguarding while in Egypt, all tourism to Egypt should cease. Of course, I speak of what should happen in a sane world. Jews and Israelis will continue to vacation in the Sinai - god knows why - even after hotels were blown up several years ago, and the Egyptian police and military blocked efforts to allow Israeli victims to be transported to hospitals.

Posted by: commonsense at November 15, 2008 6:32 PM

Egyptian "lawyer" to Israeli women: "Leave the land so we won't rape you"
.................

Well, this is acceptable on Al-Arabiya.

Hmm...wonder if things are any different with Western media? Here's the story of BBC Host Sam Mason. Ms. Mason is a BBC Host, who was fired after making this phone call to a cab company in Bristol--off air mind you. The cab was for her unaccompanied 14-year-old daughter. ("Asian" is Brit-speak for "Muslim", generally)

From the Sun:

Mason: "I know this sounds really racist, but I'm not being - please, don't send anyone like, you know what I mean. An English person would be great, a female would be better."

Operator: "We would class that as being racist. We can't penalise the Asian drivers and just send an English one."

Mason: "You've managed it before."

Operator: "Right, OK. I don't agree with it personally."

Mason: "It's not your 14-year-old girl who's, you know, is it?" Operator: "Yes, but that's racist to say you don't want an Asian driver."

Mason: "If it were me I wouldn't care if it had two heads, but it's my little girl we are talking about."

After asking the woman on the phone to pass the call on to a supervisor, she finally adds: "I work at the BBC. I'm far from racist and that uneducated woman has no right to call me one.

"I don't want her to turn up with a guy with a turban on, it's going to freak her out. She's not used to Asians.

"She's not racist - her godparents are black."

Today, the BBC confirmed it had fired Mason, but would not say which taxi firm made the complaint.

A spokesman said: "Although Sam Mason's remarks were not made on-air, her comments were completely unacceptable and, for that reason, she has been informed that she will no longer be working for the BBC with immediate effect."

Posted by: gravenimage at November 15, 2008 6:35 PM

Islam continues to invent new ways to love their fellow man and woman.

Posted by: Purple_Prose at November 15, 2008 6:38 PM

I can't blame Ms. Mason one bit. Especially after that story from I think it was Richard the Lionheart about the 3 teenagers who dropped off in the middle of a Somali/Paki ghetto and one of them got killed. I would never trust a Muslim cabbie after hearing that story. She should have asked for a cabbie who didn't devote his life to worshipping a genocidal pedophile who regarded 14-year-old Christian girls as war booty. Not wanting a guy in a turban is perfectly acceptable. Not wanting an Asian specifically is not, which wasn't what she said anyway. The operator twisted it that way. I've actually had a few very interesting conversations with Iranian cabbies. There are lots of them in Austin, where I used to live, for some reason. It was talking to them that I first learned about modern Iran and about how un-pervasive Islam actually is among the common folk. It's a requirement among government workers, but almost nobody else goes to mosques. So it's not an Asian thing. Furthermore, the more people who call cab companies and complain about Muslims, either because they're wearing turban, or beacuse they won't allow dogs or alchohol or transport drunk people, the less that becomes a viable job for Muslims. It's one of the few jobs they can actually perform, so complaining to cab companies about them further marginalizes them. That cab company is getting seriously sued over releasing that tape anyway. This will cost them quite a pretty penny.

Posted by: jdamn at November 15, 2008 6:54 PM

O.M.G. You guy shave to read this story about the sexual depravity of a Muslim woman. It's actually not at all OT. This rape stuff is apparently more normal to them than I realized. And that's not even the most disturbing part of this story...: http://islammonitor.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1740&Itemid=94

Posted by: jdamn at November 15, 2008 7:04 PM

Jdamn,, Folks,, talking about trust, and how you cannot trust islam because of KITMAN, and Taqiyya,, I think you will like this,,
I agree with this pilot,, 100%

islam,, READ THIS and think about what it says,,,

>>>>>

'YOU WORRY ME!'

By American Airlines Pilot - Captain John Maniscalco I've been trying to say this since 911, but you worry me. I wish you didn't. I wish when I walked down the streets of this country that I love, that your color and culture still blended with the beautiful human landscape we enjoy in this country. But you don't blend in anymore. I notice you, and it worries me. I notice you because I can't help it anymore. People from your homelands, professing to be Muslims, have been attacking and killing my fellow citizens and our friends for more than 20 years now. I don't fully understand their grievances and hate, but I know that nothing can justify the inhumanity of their attacks.

On September 11, nineteen ARAB-MUSLIMS hijacked four jetliners in my country. They cut the throats of women in front of children and brutally stabbed to death others. They took control of those planes and crashed them into buildings killing thousands of proud fathers, loving sons, wise grandparents, elegant daughters, best friends, favorite coaches, fearless public servants, and children's mothers. The Palestinians celebrated, the Iraqis were overjoyed as was most of the Arab world. So, I notice you now. I don't want to be worried. I don't want to be consumed by the same rage and hate and prejudice that has destroyed the soul of these terrorists But I need your help.

As a rational American, trying to protect my country and family in an irrational and unsafe world, I must know how to tell the difference between you, and the Arab/Muslim terrorist. How do I differentiate between the true Arab/Muslim-Americans and the Arab/Muslim terrorists in our communities who are attending our schools, enjoying our parks, and living in OUR communities under the protection of OUR constitution, while they plot the next attack that will slaughter these same good neighbors and children?

The events of September 11th changed the answer. It is not my responsibility to determine which of you embraces our great country, with ALL of its religions, with ALL of its different citizens, with all of its faults. It is time for every Arab/Muslim in this country to determine it for me. I want to know, I demand to know, and I have a right to know, whether or not you love America . Do you pledge allegiance to its flag? Do you proudly display it in front of your house, or on your car? Do you pray in your many daily prayers that Allah will bless this nation, that He will protect and prosper it? Or do you pray that Allah with destroy it in one of your Jihad's?

Are you thankful for the freedom that only this nation affords? A freedom that was paid for by the blood of hundreds of thousands of patriots who gave their lives for this country? Are you willing to preserve this freedom by also paying the ultimate sacrifice? Do you love America ? If this is your commitment, then I need YOU to start letting ME know about it. Your Muslim leaders in this nation should be flooding the media at this time with hard facts on your faith, and what hard actions you are taking as a community and as a religion to protect the United States of America .

Please, no more benign overtures of regret for the death of the innocent because I worry about who you regard as innocent. No more benign overtures of condemnation for the unprovoked attacks because I worry about what is unprovoked to you. I am not interested in any more sympathy. I am only interested in action. What will you do for America - our great country - at this time of crisis, at this time of war? I want to see Arab-Muslims waving the AMERICAN flag in the streets. I want to hear you chanting 'Allah Bless America ' I want to see young Arab/Muslim men enlisting in the military. I want to see a commitment of money, time, and emotion to the victims of this butchering and to this nation as a whole.

The FBI has a list of over 400 people they want to talk to regarding the WTC attack. Many of these people live and socialize right now in Muslim communities. You know them. You know where they are. Hand them over to us, now! But I have seen little even approaching this sort of action. Instead I have seen an already closed and secretive community close even tighter. You have disappeared from the streets. You have posted armed security guards at your facilities. You have threatened lawsuits. You have screamed for protection from reprisals. The very few Arab/Muslim representatives that HAVE appeared in the media were defensive and equivocating. They seemed more concerned with making sure that the United States proves who was responsible before taking action. They seemed more concerned with protecting their fellow Muslims from violence directed towards them in the United States and abroad than they did with supporting our country and denouncing 'leaders' like Khadafi, Hussein, Farrakhan, and Arafat.

If the true teachings of Islam proclaim tolerance and peace and love for all people, then I want chapter and verse from the Koran and statements from popular Muslim leaders to back it up. What good is it if the teachings in the Koran are good, and pure, and true, when your 'leaders' are teaching fanatical interpretations, terrorism, and intolerance? It matters little how good Islam SHOULD BE if huge numbers of the world's Muslims interpret the teachings of Mohammed incorrectly and adhere to a degenerative form of the religion. A form that has been demonstrated to us over and over again. A form whose structure is built upon a foundation of violence, death, and suicide. A form whose members are recruited from the prisons around the world. A form whose members (some as young as five years old) are seen day after day, week in and week out, year after year, marching in the streets around the world, burning effigies of our presidents, burning the American flag, shooting weapons into the air. A form whose members convert from a peaceful religion, only to take up arms against the great United States of America, the country of their birth. A form whose rules are so twisted, that their traveling members refuse to show their faces at airport security checkpoints, in the name of Islam.

We will NEVER allow the attacks of September 11, or any others for that matter, to take away that which is so precious to us: Our rights under the greatest constitution in the world. I want to know where every Arab Muslim in this country stands and I think it is my right and the right of every true citizen of this country to demand it. A right paid for by the blood of thousands of my brothers and sisters who died protecting the very constitution that is protecting you and your family. I am pleading with you to let me know. I want you here as my brother, my neighbor, my friend, as a fellow American. But there can be no gray areas or ambivalence regarding your allegiance, and it is up to YOU, to show ME, where YOU stand. Until then . 'YOU WORRY ME!'

Posted by: solsticewitch13 at November 15, 2008 7:07 PM

jdamn, sort of off-topic here, but I have noticed you make lots of nicely strong and no-nonsense observations about Islam & Muslims, and yet I can't get over the fact that as you wrote a while ago you personally trust certain Muslims you know. I can understand that mentality from people who don't show the strong and no-nonsense awareness of the danger of Islam, but from somebody like you it just depresses the hell out of me, because it shows that even people on our side can get duped. Those nice Muslims you personally know could be part of a terrorist cell, and your trust of them would be enabling them. That's the bottom line. We have to assume any and all Muslims are plotting terrorist attacks. We have no way of knowing they are not, no matter how nice they seem.

Posted by: DenverRodeo at November 15, 2008 7:07 PM

So Israeli women and other non-Moslems have no right to retaliate? Sounds an awful lot like that command that non-Moslems must stick their necks out so Moslems can chop them off easier.

Well just another odious example of evil masquerading as racial supremaicism. What the Moslems really need is a rigours rule of law where EVERYONE is treated equalyy under the law and justice is one's due. Standing up for serious principles will truly drive them nuts and expose their inherent irrationality for the world to see.

Rule of law the antidote to shar'ia

xavier

Posted by: xavier at November 15, 2008 8:28 PM

Oh, DenverRodeo, I don't trust them. I would never trust a practicing Muslim, especially not a Saudi. I learned that the hard way. I had a Muslim friend who seemed very cool, a little socially retarded, but easy to get along with, and then he snapped and got all Arab on me and started saying stuff about raping and enslaving American women and children and killing Israelis. He turned on a dime because my friend, who is also Jewish but who looks considerably more Semitic than I do, since I'm entirely Western European, came by and sat down with us and he just couldn't contain his rage and hatred. I had nothing invested in him and I will never trust a Muslim after that because I know that what you see is not what you get most of the time.

The thing about the Saudi couple I know is that he grew up in the States and in Saudi and he's very Americanized. She isn't quite as Americanized. But they live a very Western lifetyle. They approached me to work on a project because it was a group project. They didn't know anyone in the class and neither did I, and we had had a couple of nice conversations the first couple of days of class during the break waiting for the prof to return. They really do seem like very good people and they definitely prefer lots of things about our society. She may not be at the point where she realizes that everything that's wrong with KSA is beacuse of Islam, but he is. I just think that they'll come around eventually. It's easier to have perspective on that kind of thing being from KSA than it is from, say, Indonesia.

Some people apostacize. And they're usually people who have seem Islam up close and personal, like Ibn Warraq (from Pakistan), Ali Sina (Iran), Wafa Sultan (Syria), Ayaan Hirsi Ali (Somalia). I find Ali Sina's story the most inspiring. Unlike Ibn Warraq, who seems to have always known that Islam is awful, he befriended an older Italian couple who never talked about religion or politics and that was the dawn of his awakening. He then came to appreciate everything that was great about Italy, and he made more kafir friends and realized how much cooler and nicer they were than his Muslim friends. Muslims don't show people the kind of hospitality that the Italian couple did. That was his wake-up call. He was always a good person. He just needed to see the light.

I'm not a big fan of holding Muslims' hands and appeasing them out of Islam. That doesn't work. But dismissing people who genuinely seem to be very nice, and in their case, who couldn't be more intelligent or hospitable, is not the way to help them out of Islam. They need to understand how superior our way of life is and being rude to people who are kind to you is not the way to do it. I do honestly believe that they will see the light and leave Islam. They're already halfway out. But that doesn't mean that I trust them. I have a hard time trusting anybody, to be honest with you. And I'm not enabling them. They helped me survive a difficult course that I really didn't have the technical skills for, having not taken the prerequisite course. They have computer skills and I'm a good writer, so it was good all around. I'm not very close to them and I'm not getting duped. They're a married couple. It's not like some Arab dude who's trying to get me to marry him so he can get a green card.

But I won't shun people who are kind to me. Read 'Infidel.' Read about Ayaan's experiences with Jews and how pleasantly surprising it was to her to find that we're actually very nice people. Particularly because I'm Jewish I want them to have a good impression of me. I normally don't care what anybody thinks of me, but the fact that I'm Jewish and they're Saudi provides them with an opportunity so realize that Jews don't eat babies and steal from their mothers. Don't be saddened by my befriending a Saudi couple. It's almost as unbelievable to me. But think what would have happened had it not been for that Italian couple who befriended Ali Sina or the Jews who were kind to Ayaan. They would be useless to me, rather than inspiring and informative. The whole world would be worse-off. I don't hate Muslims, despite what I may at times. Sure, I hate individual Muslims and I don't believe that there's hope for all of them. I hate Islam. I have hope for many Muslims. That doesn't mean I want any more of them in my country, or even the ones who are here, but I believe that many of them are good people who just need to see the way. There were two other Saudis in that class. They didn't ask them to work on their project. They asked me. They asked the smartass Jewish girl, not the Saudis. That tells me something about them. It's patently uncultish behavior. I was the most un-Islamic choice they could have made. Plus, they're raising their son to be as American as possible. I would prefer that that little have an upbringing more like mine that like their own. Being cool to them can't hurt.

Posted by: jdamn at November 15, 2008 8:58 PM

gravenimage

here's a very recent news story from Australia that bears out exactly why Ms Mason was right to be distrustful of any cab with a Muslim driver.

It doesn't mention Muslim anywhere but the cabbie who raped his fare - who, very properly, being a little inebriated, was getting a cab home rather than driving - has a Muslim name if ever I saw one. I have taken the liberty of adding explanatory notes in brackets {thus} at certain points in the text.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/11/14/2420129.htm?section=justin

"Eight years' jail for rape in taxi

Posted 4 hours 25 minutes ago

'A {Muslim - dda} Sydney taxi driver has been jailed for at least eight years for raping an 18-year-old {non-Muslim Australian} woman in his car in southern Sydney.

'The driver, 23-year-old student MD Kowsar Ali, turned off his surveillance camera before attacking the woman in his taxi at Beverly Park last year.

'The court heard the woman had been drinking with friends before hailing a taxi to take her home.

'In handing down the sentence, a District Court judge said the offender took advantage of a vulnerable woman who was obviously drunk.

'Ali has been sentenced to a maximum of 10 years and eight months in jail.

'With time served, he will be eligible for parole in 2015.' END STORY.

Well: at least the heavy hand of the kafir law has come down on this b*st*rd, hard, for his little effort of Rape Jihad - thank g-d, and has also, very properly, put an end to *his* prospects of a medical career...no way in hell would one have wanted this creep having access to vulnerable female infidel patients of any age from one to 100.

Posted by: dumbledoresarmy at November 15, 2008 8:58 PM

Just to clarify my post above: the 'thank g-d' refers to the fact that, in this case, the kafir law has done its job and Kowsar Ali, Muslim rapist, has been consigned to the clink.

Posted by: dumbledoresarmy at November 15, 2008 9:00 PM

jdamn -

I think you're right. What you're doing with the Saudi couple is applying Jesus/ Yeshua's teaching - "be wise as serpents and harmless as doves", which seems to me to translate as 'be good and decent to people, but don't be naive, don't be d**n stupid'.

Jacques Ellul says somewhere that Christians should pay attention to reality, to facts. The thing about all the great saints - like Teresa of Avila and Francis of Assisi and St Benedict - is that they are realists: they do genuinely love people but they also harbour no illusions about the average person's capacity for folly and duplicity.

I've read Ali Sina's story too - and I've just reread 'Infidel'. Those Muslims who are inclining toward apostasy will probably seek out intelligent and decent Infidels, if they have the chance. Sometimes, at first, they won't even know quite why they're doing it.

I'm a Christian so I see the Holy Spirit, the ruach adonai, at work in that sort of situation, gently luring people toward Life and Freedom. If they open up just a little, a little bit more light is given, not too much, until they've got used to it, then they get some more. And, so long as they really want out, then one step at a time, out they come.

Posted by: dumbledoresarmy at November 15, 2008 9:27 PM

Solstice-Thanks for posting CPT.M's Open Letter.

The man is TOTALLY RIGHT!

PROFESSIONAL VICTIMHOOD is a JIHAD Weapon perfected by the PLO/PALESTINIANS,but ACTUALLY going back to ISRAEL'S LEGITIMATE Birth in 1948 when the Arab World/Islamic World ELECTED to MAKE THE PALESTINIANS "VICTIMS" AND KEEP THEM in REFUGEE Camps, RATHER THAN ABSORB THEM INTO THE "ARAB NATION", for Anti-Israel PROPAGANDA purposes.

Now the tactic is used against the entire WEST,in addition to Israel.

Posted by: CHOI at November 15, 2008 10:19 PM

jdamn,

"Some people apostacize." My point is that until they do, they can't be trusted. This doesn't mean you can't borrow a cup of sugar from them or have a nice convo over the laundry line so to speak with them. It just means that any time, any moment, where trust could jeopardize a larger picture than your acquaintenceship or friendship, then you are prepared to do whatever it takes to betray that friendship, no matter what. People give Muslims a hard time for having a doctrine of deception and mistrust of outsiders, but that to me isn't what's wrong with Islam. What's wrong with Islam is what they believe in doing to society after their deception and xenophobia help to put them in power. And what's right about us is what we believe in doing for society and individuals, and we would be fools not to lie and betray trust to protect our values, if we have to, against an enemy as crafty and ruthless as Muslims.

Posted by: DenverRodeo at November 15, 2008 11:24 PM

Dude, I said that I don't trust them. That doesn't mean that I shouldn't be nice to them. I haven't even talked to them since that class we took over the summer. Just because I don't trust them doesn't mean I shouldn't be nice to them, especially if they're nice to me. I don't trust my own sister because of some stuff she did a few years ago. That doesn't mean I'm going to write her off entirely. Furthermore, if they did turn on me, it would probably surprise the hell out of them that I halfway saw it coming and knew what they were about. Muslims always operate on the assumption that we're idiots because most of us are. I realize that they're the exception, not the rule. If I ever met a Muslim on the verge of apostacy, it's him. Their son will grow up to be an American, and his assimilation will only slightly be more difficult than mine. We both have foreign mothers. His father is basically American. He has had citizenship since he was a kid. He hates Saudi Arabia. She doesn't hate it as much, and if they were trying to fabricate an apostate existence she would claim to hate it too. She wouldn't wear a headscarf. She's a FOB. He's not. Anyway, I have no regrets about having befriended them. The fact that we got along well and that I'm a Jewish American, if anything, to them, removes one more piece from that unstable game of Jenga that is Islam.

Posted by: jdamn at November 16, 2008 12:29 AM

In Islam, what we consider psychosis is the norm.

Posted by: Purple_Prose at November 16, 2008 12:35 AM

It all comes back to sex with these guys. Self-hating bisexuals, the lot of them.

Posted by: Bingo at November 16, 2008 2:51 AM

'Muslim men encouraged to have sex with non-believers'
One day soon a new strain of aids will appear that will go through the Muslim community like wild fire. I'm surprised that it hasn't happened already.

On another subject does anyone know what the Muslim attitude to human organ donation is? On the BBC Sunday programme there was a prominent Muslim saying they are in favour of donating organs as long as it didn't delay the burial of a dead person. With Muslim abhorrence of pig meat I cannot see them wanting infidel organs even if it would prolong their life. On the other hand I would be wary of receiving a new heart from a Muslim in case it affected my brain.

Posted by: Tommo at November 16, 2008 3:59 AM

jdamn, "I said that I don't trust them. That doesn't mean that I shouldn't be nice to them. "

That's exactly what I said. You didn't understand me. I said go ahead and be nice on an interpersonal level. But if being nice causes you to emotionally invest in them so that you would be incapable down the line of betraying them if that becomes necessary, then you aren't capable of priorities. Can you become friendly with people that you might have to be ready to betray in a ruthless hearbeat, some time in the future? I wouldn't commit to that with any person EXCEPT a Muslim. Bottom line: are you capable of treating Muslims differently than all other humans? If not, then you could enable a terrorist cell without even knowing it.

Posted by: DenverRodeo at November 16, 2008 4:09 AM

Sounds like the Egyptian lawyer is the one that needs a good bang'n?

Arab's land? Maybe they need to just take Israel to court?

Yes, once we all understand that Islam is in a never ending war against us non believers, will we start to take the necessary steps to counter?

Let's start with educating our government law makers & leaders we elect on the true goals of Islam. Total world submission to Allah the stone god. Western democracy & Islam are NOT compatible. Islam can't have the freedom of religion in Western Societies it now enjoys, when in truth it's a totalitarian ideological political doctrine. It's a National threat.

Time to stop supporting & rescuing muslim nations. Let's allow, ok force, the Saudies to have a crack at it for awhile. After we give them a bill?

Posted by: Kauaikit at November 16, 2008 4:11 AM

There are Arab Muslims in Israel who are already stalking, deceiving, seducing (or raping). kidnapping, enslaving and abusing vulnerable Jewish girls. And the Arab Muslim women join in the abuse with sadistic enthusiasm.

Usually the men pose as Jews to begin with - and some of them do it very cleverly. "War is deception"...

I found this out while perusing the archives here at jihadwatch this very evening - a poster here, in 2006, posted a link which took me to a Jerusalem Post article (by Sarah Katz
 - August 7, 2003) about a Jewish organisation - Yad b'Yad - which was then making valiant efforts to rescue these girls (who are usually teenagers, 12-17, many of them under-age).

Here's the link:
http://www.jewishmediaresources.com/ncarticle/629/

Here's one of the stories it contains:
"At age 11, Yael would buy groceries to bring back to her home in Gilo. She formed a friendship which blossomed into a romantic relationship after four years with an employee of the grocery.

"He identified himself as Yossi, a blonde observant Jew who 'spoke to me in excellent Hebrew about Shabbat and kiddush and seemed to know more about Jewish learning than I did,' Yael told The Jerusalem Post.


"
Four months into her pregnancy, at age 18, Yael discovered that her boyfriend was actually an Arab when she read his identification card.
"Yael spent the remainder of her pregnancy in an Arab village, in close proximity to her home in Gilo, where she was 'treated like a queen.' 



"During her pregnancy, said Yael, her boyfriend forced her to pray in a mosque, dressed in Arab clothing.

"'He threatened, 'you must become Muslim for the baby - there can't be two religions.' ' 



"Two days after she gave birth, Yossi moved Yael into a different home in the same village.
"

'I saw a woman and her three small children - Yossi's wife and family.
"They took my child and told me from then on I was to be their slave.
" If I didn't cook using the right amount of salt, they would kick me, hit me, and burn my skin with cigarettes,' said Yael."...

The dream of many a Muslim Arab woman, it appears...to have a Jewish girl as slave, to hurt and humiliate. Sounds just like those harpies in the Sudan who ululate triumphantly and sing insulting songs while they watch their 'Arab' Muslim men, from the janjaweed, gang-raping the Darfuri black Muslim, or the S Sudanese black Christian, women.

::spit::

Posted by: dumbledoresarmy at November 16, 2008 8:01 AM

Rape an Israeli women? I don't recommend they try it alone. They probably won't survive the experience.

They don't call naturally born Israelis "Sabra" for nothing. Remember that ALL Israelis are subject to military draft. Most know how to defend themselves very well.

Much of of this Bilious nonsense that comes from Arab countries is just hot air. However, it does give us insight as to what they would do if they really did have the upper hand. You don't hear this sort of talk from Israel. The far right wing with the likes of the late Meir Kahane (he was never a Rabbi in my eyes) were widely disclaimed and shouted down.

The silence of Arab and Islamic society is deafening.

Posted by: blangwort at November 16, 2008 12:33 PM

Epistemology:

Thank you. The German people were mostly reluctant to back that evil war at first, so the US & UK sociopaths decided they had to "work" on the Germans to "manufacture consent". The dirty job was done by Rudolph Scharping, Germany's corrupt and crooked Defense Minister, who issued a glossy brochure lying about "Serb atrocities" in Kosovo, just as the corrupt and crooked Helmut Kohl pushed for earlier wars on the Serbs.
On February 7, 2001, the heroic German public ARD TV aired a great documentary "It Began With a Lie", refuting all of Scharping's, US's and UK's lies. Other honest Germans such as Willy Wimmer and Gen. Heinz Loqui also spoke the truth, but most Germans were duped, as were slightly over 50% Americans, by the relentless campaign of lies.

Ruslan.

Posted by: Enragedsince1999 at November 16, 2008 4:30 PM

God, what a new low. Just when you think these people can go no lower...they dissapoint you yet again. And yet again the deafening silence of the 'moderate' arabs is more telling than anything.

Hopefully in 25, 50 100 years, we can all read about the failed religion "Islam" in texts only...because no one will have a copy of the Hadith or Koran anymore, they will have been banned and burned by every country in the world.

Posted by: Simon62 at November 16, 2008 7:37 PM

I had to share this with anyone who may happen to read this.

I posted this news item up on my facebook and this is a comment I received from a Muslim female student who did her undergraduate and graduate studies in Canada. This is the mindset of the Arab/Muslims youth that the liberals think are integrating with society. Read and on and you'll see that there isn't much integration.

Muslim female saying:

"I think what you should be looking at is not what she's saying with those words exactly, but what she is trying to convey.

Obviously this woman is not against women's rights... that would be a silly conclusion. She's juxtaposing between Arabs in general who have been essentially "raped" of their land (property being a right which should always be protected), to Israeli women who could be "raped" of their person (protection of person which should always be an upheld right). Both are bad. Very bad. Both are equal in terms of dignity being lost, and 'ultimatums' being given.

It is important to look at the context and history behind what a person is saying, rather than rendering it purely evil and 'extreme'."

My response:

This woman lawyer boasts, “Most Arab countries do not have sexual harassment laws. Therefore, if [Arab women] are fair game for Arab men, there is nothing wrong with Israeli women being fair game as well.”

Now if that’s not a woman against women’s rights I am really afraid to see what you think a severe violation of women’s rights is. If you don’t think this woman is evil and extreme than I shudder at what you consider evil and extreme.

If you are Arab, people like you are exactly what is wrong with that region of the world today. The good people of your land are afraid to stand up against people like you and your loud poisonous vitriol.

You enjoy all the rights and freedoms in this amazing country that you would never ever be able to enjoy in your beloved land. Yet you have only learned hate for the very laws that keep you so comfortable today.

You can wear whatever you like. You can walk the streets and go and come as you please whenever and wherever. You can enjoy the companionship of females and males alike with no restrictions. You and a man are held as equals in the eye of the law and any bereavement that may fall to you because of a man, you remain protected through these laws. This is the reason why you are here and why you are not in your beloved land. You my dear are a hypocrite. And an even dire hypocrite as you can’t seem to connect with the human conditions in your lands, but can connect with religious and cultural obligations, no matter how shallow and barbaric.

Your concern for this heinous woman and for a piece of land is more than the concern you have for the living-breathing women she’s calling on rape for. A woman consists of love, soul, body, flesh and blood. A piece of land is just that; a constant entity. No matter how downtrodden, it remains a piece of land. As soon as a woman is violated she is dead. Her dignity has been stolen. She has been forced to strip her soul against her will.

You make me sick with your comparison and equation of the two. This makes you in my eyes a stupid and ignorant person. Until you are put into one of these situations like getting raped yourself and put to death as an adulterer because of your beloved lands laws, your eyes won’t open to the women's plights in Arab lands today. You are just another indoctrinated parrot of your culture. Close minded at its best. Civility with people such as yourself does not exist in my books.

Juxtaposition of a woman physically getting raped to "raping the land" is barbaric and anyone who equates the two such as yourself is barbaric. What is "raping the land"??? It’s just more rhetoric that people the likes of you use to justify your hateful one-sided outlook on people different from yourself.

You equate a piece of land with that of the human soul??? Well my dear I can tell you that my soul and any woman's soul and the shame and anger of its violation is much much much more then that of some dead brown earth.

You disgust me as a woman.

Posted by: kafir_cyan at November 17, 2008 10:32 PM

kafir_cyan: Thank you for your post. Powerful. I am an American possessed of no Jewish ancestry but wish Israel very long life. Canada too. It's deeply disturbing to see how deeply disturbed the large majority of the Arab world really is. I lay the blame for this almost entirely at the feet of the Islamic faith (though Arab tribalism and false senses of honor are culprits too).

Islam is a religion that guarantees scapegoating, self-pity, parasitism, suffocating staleness and disillusionment with life. It is an abomination. Would that 95% of the Arab world were Christian, Buddhist, Hindu, Zoroastrian or anything but Muslim. Were that the case, what sensible person would not readily concede that Arabs and the whole world would be better off?

And damn those women you rightly damned. They are a disgrace to their gender and to all mankind. Unless radical change occurs in them, they are destined to go to their grave profoundly ignorant of truth and goodness.

Posted by: Wellington at November 18, 2008 10:15 PM

Thank you Wellington for those comments.

Just an update I have been receiving hate mail after posting this issue up on my facbook; one of which has threatened me with legal action.

That is the mindset of the Islamic/Arab youth of the good ol' West.

The student who I was actually responding to is a law school student. Think about that bunch of law school graduates! Think about how vehemently students like these will go on to positions of power and influence to further spread their contempt for western society and zeal for Islamic/Arab imperialism.

Posted by: kafir_cyan at November 19, 2008 7:43 PM