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Is this really the time to be talking about bringing large numbers of Pakistani butchers into the West?
"5,000 Pak butchers to get jobs in UK," by Asif Mehmood for Pakistan's The Nation, November 30 (thanks to all who sent this in):
LONDON - Over 5,000 butchers from Pakistan would get employment in the halal meat industry of UK through Memorandum of Understanding (MoU) signed between National Halal Foods Group (NHFG) of UK and Overseas Employment Cooperation of Pakistan. The MoU has been signed here at the Pakistan High Commission, London Friday.
Posted by Robert at November 30, 2008 6:54 PM
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Depends on what kind of butchery they intend to practice in the UK.
Posted by: George guy
at November 30, 2008 7:03 PM
Is this a swap deal for British nuclear technicians?
Posted by: Brett_McS
at November 30, 2008 7:07 PM
The government from England need some serious psycological counseling.
Posted by: Maria
at November 30, 2008 7:08 PM
Hey, you can't make this stuff up.
Posted by: undaunted
at November 30, 2008 7:24 PM
Anybody else catch the male steer using the female cow as a shield? Wonder where that idea came from?
Posted by: Marwan'sDaughter
at November 30, 2008 7:27 PM
They need to ban halal meat. It's just ihumane the way it's slaughtered, plus it leads to stuff like this. Kosher slaughter is also wrong and something I would urge other Jews to give up. Go vegetarian. Your colon will thank you. I don't Pakis for anything, tyvm.
Posted by: jdamn
at November 30, 2008 7:35 PM
The link doesn't provide much background info on this but...WTF?
Is Britain immune to the economic downturn? aren't their Brits willing and capable of becoming butchers? Or, more likely, are Brits not allowed because an infidel touching halel food would render the food unclean?
Posted by: USorThem
at November 30, 2008 7:37 PM
I thought it was the other way around: that the U.K. was exporting Pakistani butchers, specifically to India. Oh, you say these are a different kind of butcher, oh I see.
Posted by: ebonystone
at November 30, 2008 7:39 PM
If anyone has ever read Dr. Peter Hammond's book: Slavery, Terrorism and Islam: The Historical Roots you will know the following :
"From 5% on they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population.
They will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature it on their shelves -- along with threats for failure to comply. At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves under Sharia, the Islamic Law.
France -- Muslim 8% Philippines -- Muslim 5% Sweden -- Muslim 5% Switzerland -- Muslim 4.3% The Netherlands -- Muslim 5.5% Trinidad & Tobago -- Muslim 5.8% "
It is therefore safe to assume that government figures of 1.8 million Muslims in the UK is nothing more than a lie. Even at 5% of the UK population puts Islam nearer 3 million, although I believe it to be at least 30%+ higher.
Why do they need to bring in 5k? Are there not enough Muslims in the UK that can be trained? It is the same old bull. They also do the same in the UK with restaurants. Here in the UK we train up our chefs, but Curry houses in the UK have to import chefs because they CAN'T train British staff to do the job. What a load of ****!
Let's look at this for a minute. If we bring in 5k more to the UK from Pakistan then that means you can multiply that by 3/4 as they'll bring their families over. If they have 2 sons then you're also looking at British polygamy laws that are being waved for Islam. You're looking within 10 years time or so that figure of 5,000 to turn into 50,000 as their children breed. It may even be far more.
You can present these figures to people and they'll still pass it off as scaremongering and Islamaphobia. Whatever happened to the governments point system outside of Europe? As usual, pie in the sky from NeoLabour who are now horizontal when it comes to Islam.
I wonder how many of these 5k will be Jihadis? 5k is my guess, not all violent, but all wanting Islamisation of the UK and the west.
Sickening!!!
at November 30, 2008 7:42 PM
What kind of "butchers" exactly? AlQaeda "butchers?" Don't they already have more than enough of them?
Posted by: yonason
at November 30, 2008 8:08 PM
How many butchers does Pakistan have?
If they can spare 5000, they must be loaded with butchers.
A nation of butchers, experts in butchery...
Posted by: duh_swami
at November 30, 2008 8:11 PM
A butcher, a baker , a candle stick maker- why let more Muslims in to further England along its merry way on being overrun by Muslims, who have declared that Islam will rule the world. I guess teh Brits think they are being noble and charitable by such nonsense which puts their people at risk ? Blimy...
at November 30, 2008 8:15 PM
From the expression of the cow and the bull, I got the impression something else, slightly more dirty was happening.
Sorry, Ignorance in this case is perhaps bliss.
Posted by: Foolster41
at November 30, 2008 8:28 PM
wtf do the Britts need more butchers? if the pakis dont like meat the way Britts prepare them, they can hike it back to the pak! someone said it earlier, you cant make up this stuff, its surreal.
Posted by: ZenaWarriorPrincess
at November 30, 2008 8:29 PM
I guess teh Brits think they are being noble and charitable by such nonsense which puts their people at risk ? Blimy...
DetectiveArbogast,
The Brits weren't asked. In fact I doubt any Brits actually know of this. They have been lulled into a false sense of security with the Government's new points based system to take over from their 'zero immigration control policy'. It means that people will need to pass a certain number of points outside of the EU if they want to gain access to the UK to work and/or live. However, what they didn't say was that if you're a Muslim then it won't matter.
Remember that the naivety of the British people is such that everything they read in the papers, especially the Guardian, is the truth. It means that they hate Jews like the Muslims, love the Palestinians and believe that the West is attacking Islam the religion of peace.
The NuLabour government promised the British people a referendum on Europe. They of course lied and went on to sign the Lisbon Treaty. The British people have no say, other than at election time, what goes on in their country. The Whitehall w*nkers are too busy destroying this once great Nation to bother what the average Brit says, that is of course if he/she is not a Muslim or from a minority.
at November 30, 2008 8:30 PM
Maybe Britain likes playing Russian Roulette with a revolver with 6 rounds in it...
Posted by: pulsar182
at November 30, 2008 8:32 PM
P.S.
It took all of 7 attempts to post the above!!!
TypePad is cr*p! Bin them.
at November 30, 2008 8:33 PM
I suspect someday that the amazing stupidity-syndrome of the British people in electing irresponsible sellout politicians, rather than those that will actually try to protect British citizens, will become a case history is advance psychoanalytic text books. Of course, these textbooks won’t be available in a Britain that will in the future no longer exist. I wonder what the Muslims will name that poor Island. How do you say “suicide island” in Arabic?
Posted by: FM
at November 30, 2008 9:00 PM
Funny - right now - 1st December, midday Australian time, I'm having no problems with typepad at all.
This is what I'm doing. Right now I'm typing into the little box.
Then I will hit 'post'.
I will count, maybe, to ten. And it will go through, no problems.
So, to those who are still having trouble posting, please don't despair. I think it WILL be fixed.
I had all sorts of fun for about three days and then it magically disappeared. Indeed, a month or so ago I used to have to do all sorts of things to post something, and I don't, now.
Memo: even if all *is* going well, always, always, copy and save what you've written. That way, even if disaster strikes, you have not lost your efforts and can wait and try another day.
Posted by: dumbledoresarmy
at November 30, 2008 9:04 PM
By the way, george guy and ebonystone, you have just stated exactly what *I* thought, the moment I saw the headline.
We have just seen what a bunch of Pakistani butchers did in Mumbai - including the inventive torturings and halal slaughter of their human victims - it appears they caused some of them to bleed to death.
Posted by: dumbledoresarmy
at November 30, 2008 9:07 PM
The "UK" is not a person. Who is doing this, who is paying them, and how they be brought up on charges? This is cultural genocide. It is no different than the intentional demographic dilution of Tibet. These quislings should be incarcerated and their names should be scorned forever. They are kapo-like scum.
Posted by: Max Publius
at November 30, 2008 9:11 PM
The night of the long knifes can't be far off...
Posted by: sheik yer'mami
at November 30, 2008 9:22 PM
Max you are right , i need to add that fighting for the cultural integrity of Tibet is a humanist act (and rather fashionable) , now trying to protect the cultural integrity of an european country is "RACIST"
disgusting double standard
at November 30, 2008 9:24 PM
5000 halal butchers, 5000 halal butcher wifes, 20.000 halal butcher kidz, another 5000 in the womb, second and third wifes in the immigration lines, 20.000 first cousins, brothers and sisters, 40.000 mums and dads and the grandparents as well...
its all happening right under our noses.
The future of once Great Britain is sealed.
Posted by: sheik yer'mami
at November 30, 2008 9:28 PM
What will it take to wake the West up? We need to replace our multiculturalist celebration of diversity with a little culturist realism.
Many of us have our own blogs. Some of us sing about these dangers. Mr. Spencer has written book after book and appeared in countless radio programs. Yet, the leaders of Britain still, apparently, have no clue.
My attempts to get the words culturism and culturist into our vocabulary are cheap and could help us win the rhetorical war. But, this crusade (love that word!!) has not even met with success among the converts.
We need a forum in which we really rethink our strategies. Whatever we are doing is NOT WORKING!!! Perhaps a march. Perhaps having the Islamic Awareness week on campuses four times a year!!! Perhaps taking over television stations and making them play FITNA for hours and hours on end!!! (The latter is a joke and would undermine our freedoms).
I look forward to any new suggestions. And failing that, I share your total exasperation, frustration and amazement at the importation of butchers!!
www.culturism.us
Posted by: culturist
at November 30, 2008 9:31 PM
You know with all the craziness going on in the world right now with the Jihadists freaking out I think that restricting immigration of Muslims into western nations would be a logical and rational part of an overall plan to protect nations from this threat.
Posted by: WatchinOut
at November 30, 2008 9:48 PM
Thoughts not just for airplane take-overs, perhaps now also for a leisurely walk past the local halal butcher...
http://freemendo.typepad.com/undaunted/2008/03/answering-the-b.html
Posted by: undaunted
at November 30, 2008 10:06 PM
The poster just above appears to think an explanation, and an apologetic tone, are necessary: "with all the craziness going on in the world right now..." This is uncalled-for. No apologies, and no linking restriction or, better, a complete ban on those who identify themselves as Muslims, which means they identify themselves as those who wish, despite knowing what is in the Qur'an and Hadith and Sira, and despite being perfectly aware of the attitudes toward Infidels that those texts inculcate, still think they have a right -- a right! -- to settle deep within lands whose legal and political institutions and individual rights are the fruit of centuries, of Infidels working through the centuries, Infidels who would not have lasted one minute in societies where Islam ruled. Yet we are supposed to believe that we cannot control who comes into our lands, bearing not an alien creed, but an alien and a permanently hostile creed, which helps explain the behavior of Muslims toward a great variety of non-Muslims, in time over 1350 years, in space from Spain to the East Indies. No, we have no such obligation. That is a brand-new idea, and a very poor one.
No one whose duty it is to instruct and to protect us -- that is, no one in the political and media elites -- has a right to pontificate about Islam, to insist that it is a "beautiful faith" or a "religion of peace" or any of that, until that person has actually read and thoroughly assimilated not only the Qur'an and the Hadith (or at least a few hundred of the most important and "authentic" ones) and the Sira, but also the work of Islamic scholars and of the greatest Western scholars of Islam.
For after the displays by so many of such smug self-assurance about something that for the Infidels of this world is a matter of life and death, such ignorance is no longer to be tolerated. After such ignorance, what forgiveness?
Posted by: Hugh
at November 30, 2008 10:11 PM
How many butchers does Pakistan have?
from Duh Swami above.
Every Muslim is a halal butcher. I thought you knew that...
Posted by: sheik yer'mami
at November 30, 2008 11:05 PM
In order to be able to see things as they are it would firstly be necessary for individuals to exorcise the entrenched belief that 'democracies' can, or ever have, reflected the will of the people.
In reality, all of the so called 'democracies', without exception, are 'elective juntas'. Under that kind of system well organised fanatics can inveigle themselves into positions of power and only need to take notice of opinions expressed by their own party leaders, backers and allies. Those who rule are under no pressure to take the will of the people into account and, these days, don't even pretend to bother.
There is no way, short of an insurrection, to hold politicians accountable for misgoverning. That amorphous, disorganised mass referred to as 'The People' has no effective political power, it has merely the illusion of power.
During the few weeks of an election cycle politicians need only make a few promises that they will observe the wishes of the people, then its back to the old routine for the next four years.
Unfortunately, the superstition held by most people that they live in a democracy has been pumped into the peoples' heads from the time they first learned to speak and is far too firmly entrenched to remove. Time and again individuals can observe political leaders and parties take actions and make decisions that are totally against the wishes of the majority people and all that happens is a state of confusion on the part of these individuals as to how such a thing could be possible in a 'democracy'.
Posted by: Ahem
at November 30, 2008 11:56 PM
Good bye, Great britain, good bye! When asked in the future about what you used to be like, I'll be sure to speak kindly of you, and say that I even used to know a Limey or two. Decent blokes, they were. Nobody seems to know what happened to them that they their spines all seemed to jellify. Very sad. Some of them made it over here. Glad to have them, but I don't dare ask what happened to those who stayed behind.
Posted by: Eastview
at December 1, 2008 12:05 AM
Good bye, Great Britain, good bye! When asked in the future about what you used to be like, I'll be sure to speak kindly of you, and say that I even used to know a Limey or two. Decent blokes, they were. Nobody seems to know what happened to them that their spines all seemed to jellify. Very sad. Some of them made it over here. Glad to have them, but I don't dare ask what happened to those who stayed behind.
Posted by: Eastview
at December 1, 2008 12:07 AM
Oops...Sorry for the double post (dang new posting system!)
Posted by: Eastview
at December 1, 2008 12:08 AM
Ok, here's what I cannot understand: why is it that it's somehow cool to just buy whatever your politicians tell you, accept it whole-hog, and never question it? I mean, I think that a lot of this simply comes down to 'cool.' We're in a culture war and the Left is siding with the jihadists. How can we make that uncool? How is it that the Left, which has traditionally appealed to youngsters and has sold us out so much worse than the Right (which is also guilty but not of cultural genocide), is still cool among them? How is it cool to be a libtard? WHo are their best mouthpieces? Naomi Wolf and Jane Fonda?
I think the answer may just be...wait for it...Joey Ramone. Yeah, he's dead, but in a way that's useful because he can't screw anything up. Why is he not on the t-shirts of asshats instead of Che Guevara? I mean, he's punk, he's eternally and unarguably cool, he was hilarious, he was a Republican, he made a couple billion sitting on his butt and pining after Maria Bartiromo. And he was Jewish.
I made myself an Oriana Fallaci shirt. I think it's the coolest thing ever. Other people need to understand how cool I am for wearing it.
I just don't understand how the Left is cool anymore. Bill Clinton was cool. That made sense. Barack Obama may be the key to undoing all this, as he holds the hopes of the Left in a way that no politician has since JFK, and yet every policy of his is doomed to fail. And he doesn't have that Clintonian/Wiley Coyote ability to bounce back from anything, either. He can't screw up and make it sound like he meant to do it on purpose.
We need a way to make people associate taking pride in one's culture and seeking to preserve it and standing against jihad and Islam more generally (I'm still reeling from johndoe teling me about the chicks in keffiyehs) cool. We need to make self-preservation of the Free World become immediately associated with 'cool.' How much cooler does it get than Geert Wilders, Mark Steyn, Oriana Fallaci, and Joey Ramone? We need for useful idiots to see Mohammed Atta when they look at Barack Obama, like I do, or Daily Kos = Hamas. How do we do that? Glenn Beck maybe? Anyone?
Posted by: jdamn
at December 1, 2008 12:35 AM
I thought it was the other way around: that the U.K. was exporting Pakistani butchers, specifically to India. Oh, you say these are a different kind of butcher, oh I see.Ebonystone
Posted by: ebonystone at November 30, 2008 7:39 PM
You beat me to it. I was about to complete the above headline with...
and export them to India!Looks like I just did! ;-) Posted by: Infidel Pride
at December 1, 2008 12:47 AM
How many butchers does Pakistan have?duh_swami
If they can spare 5000, they must be loaded with butchers.
A nation of butchers, experts in butchery...
Posted by: duh_swami at November 30, 2008 8:11 PM
I'd say all of them. Barring probably the local Christians, Sikhs and Hindus.
Posted by: Infidel Pride
at December 1, 2008 12:52 AM
Oh how things change
"It has been the traditional policy of successive British Governments to offer asylum to persons who, for political, racial or religious reasons, have had to leave their own countries…But the United Kingdom is not a country of immigration.
It is highly industrialised, fully populated and is still faced with the problem of unemployment. For economic and social reasons, the traditional policy of granting asylum can only be applied within narrow limits….
His Majesty's Government are also carefully surveying the prospects of the admission of refugees to their colonies and overseas territories. The question is not a simple one….
Many overseas territories are already overcrowded, others are wholly or partly unsuitable for European settlement….No thickly populated country can be expected to accept persons who are deprived of their means of subsistence before they are able to enter it. Nor can the resources of private societies be expected to make good the losses which the emigrants have suffered.
Lord Winterton
The above statement is not from the future, but from 6th July 1938
This policy effectively close the doors for half a million Jews, thus leaving them to the hands of the butcherers of the one balled dictator and his murderous palistinian goon.
Magically over the 80 years the highly industrialized Britain, has become less populated and is no longer faced with the problem of unemployment. For economic and social reasons, the traditional policy of granting asylum can now be broadened…
So the anti-semantic government of the 1930,s that gave the green card to the nazis for mass murder, has transformed into a government that now welcome the murderous butchers
Oh yes we hear so much about the Battle of Gable street, where the government where bopping the brown shirts, yet at the same time where sealing the fate of millions both by Hitlers Nazis and Stalins Socialists.
Posted by: InfidelK9
at December 1, 2008 2:12 AM
English intellectual and political elites have a death wish. Not for themselves but for their country.
Posted by: alexon
at December 1, 2008 2:52 AM
Every other poster has said it but just to confirm yet again,
The deal has been done and this is the first we have heard of it.
Yes - By ticking the right boxes on the paperwork each one will count has a "Head of family" and be able to bring in any number of his relatives.
Yes - We are constantly told we have tens of thousands unemployed "asians" who could be trained to do the job but there will be some BS lie, sorry reason why they can not be.
Ref halal butchers, it is an indication of their political power that they are allowed to do it in a country as sentimental about animals as Britain. About 15 years ago the Royal (yes "Royal") Society for the Protection of Animals ran low key protests against it. In our town their local officer was photographed hugging a live goat "Saved from halal butchers" outside the Town Hall. ONLY hugging you understand not being muslims we do not carry these things too far.
To understand the kind of crooked lying B******* we have in this government the last time the cruelty of halal killing was discussed the Minister responsible airly declared "90% of halal meat is pre-stunned anyway, you have to make compromises in politics and getting 90% of what you want is pretty good.
What he must have known but did not say was that 90% would be in LEGALLY registered slaughterhouses. There are thousands of illegal slaughterhouses and certainly every eid families illegally slaughter animals in their own back yards.
BTW a farmer told me European regulations on slaughtering are so strict there was now only one registered kuffur slaughterhouse in our region. All the small local ones had been forced to close. True of false anyone?
Posted by: Fred
at December 1, 2008 5:24 AM
I agree with that... Seems there are a lot of sick and ignorant people in Islam.
duh_swami.
Abraham Lincoln one said “God must have loved the odd ball; he made so many of them”.
He should have added “especially in the Mooslime community”.
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They need to ban halal meat. It’s just inhumane the way it’s slaughtered, plus it leads to stuff like this. Kosher slaughter is also wrong and something I would urge other Jews to give up [...] -jdam
Halal or Kosher it all comes from the Bible LEV 11. Pure and impure animals. And God is supposed to have made perfect everything he created. So what’s the bug here?
Here in America everybody pays a kosher tax on all products that carry a kosher symbol. And that has been going on for many decades.
We now have kosher soap.
Kosher condom? (Hey! there are some eatable ones on the market!)
Kosher pampers? Well maybe pretty soon?...
All this because of some superstitious fable from the legendary Jewish Bible and gullible idiots who buy that stuff.
It should be the other way around: Jew Congresses should pay the producers of these market items to have their kosher stamp on them.
Stupid isn’t!
Well go back to Abe Lincoln.
Enjoyed your good opinion too Richard the Lionheart... How true!
Religion is HOLY BULLSHIT!
Posted by: Platypus
at December 1, 2008 7:16 AM
Why not train the unemployed muslims already in UK?
And if it only took ten to create the carnage in Mumbai, what will 5,000 do?
at December 1, 2008 7:49 AM
Jdamn
If you can get a Fallaci t-shirt made than you can certainly get a Robert Spencer t-shirt made..how cool would that be?
at December 1, 2008 8:36 AM
"I made myself an Oriana Fallaci shirt. I think it's the coolest thing ever. Other people need to understand how cool I am for wearing it." --jdamn
Oh, yeah! You are cool!
So, can you make me one? I would like a long-sleeved white cotton shirt with whatever image you used of La Fallaci.
Posted by: darcy
at December 1, 2008 8:39 AM
Platypus: Halal or Kosher it all comes from the Bible LEV 11. Pure and impure animals. And God is supposed to have made perfect everything he created. So what’s the bug here?
--
The bug is here that you don't fully understand the bible. God's creation was VERY GOOD in His own words. In the beginning man did not eat meat at all... fruit was enough to sustain him in this very good world.
It was after the flood that man began to eat meat... God then issued the laws on clean/unclean meats for the benefit of the health of mankind. See http://www.gnmagazine.org/booklets/CU/matterofhealth.htm
Thanks
Posted by: futureisbright
at December 1, 2008 8:40 AM
Actually importing more Mohammedans. 5,000. Along with their families and the subsequent copious births. English "leaders" have got a serious death wish.
jdamn - where's my shirt?!
Posted by: darcy
at December 1, 2008 8:45 AM
The English nation is slowly but surely being diluted and destroyed! :(
Posted by: futureisbright
at December 1, 2008 9:05 AM
Platypus
I am not a bible scholar but I have read that Leviticus and other books are actually practical guides to health and living. A modern doctor observed that the book of (------?) set down a perfectly correct diagnoses for leprosy.
The dietary rules people have carried things to extremes. A UK convert said the main reason for halal killing was so muslims knew the meat had not been sacrificed to other gods which was not a problem in Britain.
Of course muslims have the added difficulty of the animals possible sexual relationship with any previous owner. Even that should not be a problem if the owner was a kuffer as few of them go in for it and those who do probably end up on Gerry Springer.
Posted by: Fred
at December 1, 2008 9:11 AM
Aren't there also some Muslim prayers mumbled over the animals as they slaughtered?
I wouldn't touch halal meat, for that reason, alone. I'd rather eat a rat.
Posted by: Stormwarning
at December 1, 2008 10:21 AM
Ahem,
To call democracies "elective juntas" is a bit much. People in democracies do indeed have the power. They just refuse to exercise it. Many would rather get a government check or tax "the rich".
During the few weeks of an election cycle politicians need only make a few promises that they will observe the wishes of the people, then its back to the old routine for the next four years.
This is entirely true. It therefore holds that the people themselves are responsible for what they get. If they fall for the same line every few years then they deserve the government they get, like all people in all democracies.
Democracy is the worst form of government, except for all the others.
Posted by: PMK
at December 1, 2008 10:37 AM
Why not train the unemployed muslims already in UK? And if it only took ten to create the carnage in Mumbai, what will 5,000 do?
Borg, there are probably around four million+ Muslims in the UK, closer to five. If even 20% of those are Jihadists then that makes around 800k/1m in the UK alone. Yes look at the mess that ten did in Mumbai. It is rather worrying. The arrival of five thousand Pakistanis is nothing compared to the Nation of Islam growing and plotting to destroy our Nation.
And yet look at our government. Gordon Brown promotes Britishness by trying to create a Britishness day. He also states "British jobs for British people" while selling the UK to Europe. He sends Britain's children to Afghanistan and Iraq to fight the Islamic Terrorists yet won't call them that. Instead he calls them British citizens and does his best to have them brought back from countries that plan to try them for their crimes, as well as stop them being extradited to foreign countries from the UK. He makes deals with the Saudis who are buying up the UK and exporting their Wahabism to the UK schools and Mosques, yet that is the exact strain of Islam our troops fight in foreign lands.
Our government is selling us out. They are comitting treason.
Posted by: Richard the Lionheart
at December 1, 2008 10:39 AM
What JJ Rousseau
"The English people believes itself to be free; it is gravely mistaken; it is free only during election of members of parliament; as soon as the members are elected, the people is enslaved; it is nothing. In the brief moment of its freedom, the English people makes such a use of that freedom that it deserves to lose it."
Posted by: Péguy
at December 1, 2008 11:45 AM
Darcy, email me @ jdamn13@yahoo.com and I'll send you the jpeg. I also have a Geert Wilders shirt and they both have awesome quotes on them an dthe Geert Wilders jpeg has an easy-to-remember URL for Fitna. Wear it in front of someone on their laptop sometime. You can put them on anything at Cafepress.
Posted by: jdamn
at December 1, 2008 12:45 PM
Marwan's Daughter wrote:
Anybody else catch the male steer using the female cow as a shield? Wonder where that idea came from?
.................
Ick--yes, I did. What a charming mural all the way round--ineptly executed, crudely colored image of frightened animals trying desperately to paint out the "eat me" message on the butcher shop front. (A lesson, perhaps, for Infidels?)
I was Googling around and ran into this article. Given the date--December First--I at first thought it was Today's. Then I looked again and saw it was from two years ago.
McDonalds to offer halal burgers (UK)
http://www.metro.co.uk/home/article.html?in_article_id=27498&in_page_id=1
Of course, the "truly devout" Muslims would still consider it haram to have their Halal burger handed them by a filthy kuffr British fast food worker. Wonder how that's working out? Maybe the food can only be touched by Muslim employees? Better hire some more Muslims--they may have to import them from Pakistan!
Posted by: gravenimage
at December 1, 2008 12:50 PM
PMK wrote:
This is entirely true. It therefore holds that the people themselves are responsible for what they get. If they fall for the same line every few years then they deserve the government they get, like all people in all democracies.
You are very correct PMK. Here in the UK 50% of the electorate voted. NuLabour took 35%, Conservative 34% and the rest, the rest.
Electing a government should be a happy occasion not a sad one.
The best solution for democracy is to only allow a government to be in power for 1 year at a time. That way, unless they DO what they say their going to do they won't be voted in next time. It will also make them push through the laws that will benefit the public, a lot quicker than normal, as they are living on borrowed time.
If the people demand a referendum and they promise one, then they have no choice but to give it to them or face non election next year.
Five years in power, here in the UK, is far too long. Politicians become complacent and lazy, not forgetting have more time to submerge their faces in the trough of greed & plenty.
Things will never change really. As long as people are controlled by the TV and accept the daily propaganda fed to them, corrupt, career politicians will continue to parade naked through the streets while the people shout how wonderful they look in their new clothes.
Posted by: Richard the Lionheart
at December 1, 2008 2:25 PM
THIS IS THE BEST TIME FOR U.K. TO GO VEGAN!
at December 1, 2008 10:46 PM


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