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December 1, 2008

Mumbai jihadists refused Islamic burial: "People who committed this heinous crime cannot be called Muslim. Islam does not permit this sort of barbaric crime"

Now if he could only convince the living jihadists of that.

"Mumbai cemetery won't bury gunmen," from AP, December 1 (thanks to Paul):

A Muslim graveyard has refused to bury nine gunmen who terrorized Mumbai over three days last week, leaving at least 172 people dead and wreaking havoc at some of its most famous landmarks.

The men are not true followers of the Islamic faith, according to the influential Muslim Jama Masjid Trust, which runs the 7.5-acre (three-hectare) Badakabrastan graveyard in downtown Mumbai.

"People who committed this heinous crime cannot be called Muslim," said Hanif Nalkhande, a trustee. "Islam does not permit this sort of barbaric crime." [...]

While Nalkhande said several Islamic scholars had backed the trust's decision, some also criticized the move.

Even militants must be given a proper burial, said scholar Maulauna Zubair Ahmed.

"As per the Shariah, the trust cannot say no," he said, referring to Islamic law. "The Shariah says whether a Muslim is a drunkard, rapist, criminal, you must offer him a place for burial."...

Posted by Robert at December 1, 2008 9:56 AM
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That is so lame of an excuse. It really sickens me that they claim "Islam does not permit...." when in fact the Mumbai attack is very small compared to their other heinous crimes against humanity.

The Islamic history books are full of praise for the atrocities they have committed yet when it is convenient for them to deny this in order to fool the infidels, they do so, as is the case here.

Why not send the bodies back to Pakistan in a public ceremony to let the world know where these monsters came from?


-Ayo Gorkhali

Posted by: Gorkhali [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 1, 2008 10:06 AM

I agree with you Aya. Sent back wrapped in pig carcasses with Pakistani flags draping them all.

Posted by: Jewel Atkins [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 1, 2008 10:09 AM

Ayo Gorkhali said: "Why not send the bodies back to Pakistan in a public ceremony to let the world know where these monsters came from?"

I think, my friend, you have answered your own question on this one (as I think we both know why the above won't happen anyhow): "The Islamic history books are full of praise for the atrocities they have committed yet when it is convenient for them to deny this in order to fool the infidels, they do so, as is the case here."

I should include, I agree with you on this. I mean, afterall, Pakistan as a whole is attempting to "fool" the U.S. by falsely portraying this "alliance" with our government against terrorism, and yet they do nothing and then attempt to shoot down our military when we go after imbeded terrorist cells across the boarders of Afghanistan and Pakistan. This, in a way, makes complete sense, y'know, to those of us NOT living under the veil of denial that our government and media are trying to sheild the public with.

Posted by: Heidi J [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 1, 2008 10:19 AM

In Pakistan these killers are heroes. The 7/7 bombers were flown home to Pakistan, their funerals were attended by up to 20.000 mourners.

The Indian Muslims may (or may not) be in a position to give them a heroes funeral, because the eyes of the world are on them.

In the end, they cannot refuse to give these mujaheddin their burial. What are we to believe when we have been fooled so often?

Do they mean it? Should we care?

Posted by: sheik yer'mami [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 1, 2008 10:33 AM

"Do they mean it? Should we care?
Posted by: sheik yer'mami "

No. Taqqiya.

Posted by: S [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 1, 2008 10:38 AM

Wait a week for the local Waqf board to claim the corpses. If they don't, do what's usually done in India with unclaimed bodies.

Cremate them, and dump the ashes and charred bones in the common pit reserved for that purpose at the local "potter's field".

Posted by: pravasi [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 1, 2008 10:50 AM

"The Shariah says whether a Muslim is a drunkard, rapist, criminal, you must offer him a place for burial."...

now it do speaks almost everything ...... No ? just wait for 3, 2, 1..... ok start digging the graves

Posted by: Proud of being takfir [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 1, 2008 10:53 AM

In Pakistan, these terrorists would be heroes and their bodies would be worshiped as saints. The best thing all nations must do is wrap the bodies of Islamic terrorists using pig bladder, take a public parade to fertilizer factory, burn them and finally mix the ashes with manure to make good organic fertilizer. Why should they get any burial at all? After all, even Muslims, using deception (Al Taquiyya), would deny these are Muslims.

Posted by: Hyder Ali, London, UK [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 1, 2008 11:44 AM

"People who committed this heinous crime cannot be called Muslim," said Hanif Nalkhande, a trustee. "Islam does not permit this sort of barbaric crime." [...]

Hanif - ah, I don't know how to tell you this but it does.

Props for refusing to bury the terrorists, though.

Posted by: tanstaafl [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 1, 2008 11:55 AM

feed the poor dogs of Mumbay with the bodies

Posted by: Péguy [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 1, 2008 12:03 PM

Ayo Gorkhali - "Here come the Gurkhas!"

Posted by: tanstaafl [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 1, 2008 12:03 PM

REFUSING TO BURY THEM? DUH... THEY WERE HINDU

FALSE FLAG OPERATION, THE ATTACKERS WERE HINDU NATIONALISTS:

From an e-mail containing three screen shots of the Hindu Terrorist:

The Mumbai Drama Played by Indian Govt. See below to find out that the Person in the picture is not Muslim as he was wearing HINDU band in his right arm. Let ppl know about the truth, which is not telling by any media of any country.

" THE TRUTH BEHIND THE FACTS"

Mumbai Terror: Evidence being deliberately ignored?

Strange that none of the media (TV or Print) have picked this up at all. Or have they been deliberately ignoring it?

Have a look at the picture of one of the terrorists.

Notice the orange thread / band on his right hand?

Tying a red thread or cord around the wrist is a Hindu practice and it is unlikely a Muslim, especially one politicized enough to carry out an attack such as this, would observe it. I think this provides more evidence that this was a false flag operation or at least an attack by a non-Muslim group. For more information about the significance of the red thread see wikipedia and this blog post. [Thanks to Uruk]

Additionally, the terrorists inside the Nariman House Building were reported to have stocked up on supplies on Wednesday evening, buying not just food items but liquor, among other things, from a local store. Again, it is highly unlikely that a Muslim, let alone a 'Mujahid', and especially one politicized enough to carry out such an attack, would consume liquor in normal life, let alone hours before his inevitable 'martyrdom'.

Don't let them ignore it. Circulate this to as many people as you can as we strongly believe it wouldn't have been ignored if the terrorists were carrying a copy of the Qur'an, or a taveez.


Kalava

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Kalava (Sanskrit: ?????) is the sacred Hindu thread. It is worn while performing Hindu rituals like Yajna or Puja. It is tied by a priest on the wrists of all the people attending the prayer ceremony. Kalava is tied on right hand of males and unmarried females, and on left hand of married females. Sometimes it has small yellow parts in between the mostly red string. It sometimes has knots which are tied up while reciting Sanskrit mantras to invoke God and is worn to ward off evil from the person who wears this red thread.


Truth
Abdullah Mikail

Posted by: Abdullah Mikail [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 1, 2008 12:06 PM

Zionists were behind 9/11 , the Nazis never had the intention to exterminate the jewish people ... It's getting old.
One day traitors will be hanged in public place, this day civilization will rejoice

Posted by: Péguy [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 1, 2008 12:25 PM

Abdullah Mikail,

Common, the terrorists were MUSLIM. It cannot be denied.

Posted by: bigcatgirl13106 [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 1, 2008 12:29 PM

"Kalava" is of not the final test to establish Hindu faith. The final test is "Established Old Circumcision". This test is performed after the person is totally stripped of clothes and made naked to see circumcision. It was performed on Late Zulfikar Ali Bhutto of Pak after he was hanged because there was doubt his being Muslim at all.Late Ms Benazir Bhutto mentions it in her 'book'. Kalava in a circumcised person is of no consequence of his being not a Muslim.

!!

Posted by: Kash225 [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 1, 2008 12:32 PM

Abdullah, the terrorist photographed wearing the sacred thread was captured alive and has already sang like a bird. He is a Kashmiri paki native jihadist and so were the other terrorists. Anyway to these muslim terrroists, a red and yellow thread only means they can blend in easily with the general population and easier for them to pretend they are just hindus. For a muslim there is absolutly no religios meanings to these theads.

Posted by: desidude [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 1, 2008 12:35 PM

Abdullah, before you go hay-wire with your rediculous theory, did it ever occur to you that they MIGHT have been trying to fit in? Perhaps they were assimilating to the societal norms there in order to better disguise themselves and their efforts? Furthermore, the media DID initially report that this was an attack that could have been linked to Hindu Extremists (around 2pm on Thanksgiving day, CNN). However, and as Desidude has posted above me, the one surviving terrorist has already given all of the info up. There is no sugar coating this, white washing it, LYING about it, whatever you want to call it. The facts are the facts. This was just another example of Muslims thugs killing in the name of Allah. Try to stay with us here in reality, please!

Posted by: Heidi J [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 1, 2008 12:56 PM

So Abdullah The Quasi Apostate knows more about this than the captured terrorist...Figures...

He also knows more about it than the Indian and Pakistan investigators...That's impressive...

Posted by: duh_swami [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 1, 2008 1:05 PM

Suppose it is a false flag.....it's not like Muslims have never disguised themselves under false personas for purposes of causing death and mayhem, whether it be dressing
as women or disguising as police or soldiers or even as hajj pilgrims.

So it wouldn't be that hard to believe that a non-Hindu terrorist could pose as a Hindu. A thread bracelet is MUCH easier to put on than a burqa or police uniform for the purposes of deception.

False flagging can go both ways.

Posted by: yadayada [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 1, 2008 1:12 PM

Throw them to the dogs or grind them and give it to the pigs.

Posted by: greaticon [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 1, 2008 1:12 PM

The jihadis should be cremated and their ashes disposed of in public toilets.

Posted by: HotSpur [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 1, 2008 1:16 PM

From above: Don't let them ignore it. Circulate this to as many people as you can as we strongly believe it wouldn't have been ignored if the terrorists were carrying a copy of the Qur'an, or a taveez.

This is not even Abdullahs writings. Who are 'we', and 'circulate this to many' is a tip off for an internet hoax going around...Copy and paste Abdullah...copy and paste...

Posted by: duh_swami [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 1, 2008 1:32 PM

Cremated, and their bones mixed with cement to make bricks that would help build a girls' school.

Posted by: Jewel Atkins [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 1, 2008 1:32 PM


The Kalava: Are there other pictures that show this orange 'string' a little better? What he has on his wrist looks orange in the photo, but it is larger than a string. It looks to be about an inch wide and a half inch thick...Just the right size for a Micky Mouse wrist watch...

Posted by: duh_swami [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 1, 2008 1:50 PM

Hindu!? :)

I hope that, after what happened, Hindu "terrorists" will strike terror in the heart of barbarians.

They have my full support.

Posted by: LazarOfSerbia [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 1, 2008 1:56 PM

According to Muslims, it is never their fault, they always blame others.

Abdullah Mikail, do you want to know the real truth?

The future of Islam looks really dark. The tension that has built up all over the world against it will soon explode and Muslims will take the full hit of the free worlds anger.

Any day soon wouldn't be quick enough if you ask me. I really hope that Muslims already feel this and prepare themselves for a quick departure to Muslim countries, for their own sake. After that, Islam will be classified as an totalitarian ideology of violence and banned in the West.

Islamophobia is not a fobia, it's an healthy insight, proving you are a human being! The world will be a much happier place without Islam.

Posted by: SwedishWiking [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 1, 2008 2:16 PM

Already the allies of islamic terrorism are spinning stories to deflect responsibility from the islamic mujahideen. I sure hope the proper authorities are watching.

Posted by: KrazyKafir [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 1, 2008 2:24 PM

"People who committed this heinous crime cannot be called Muslim," said Hanif Nalkhande, a trustee. "Islam does not permit this sort of barbaric crime."

Well, of course it does. Look at the history of Islam, look at the successful attempts to instill terror in the hearts of the Infidels. For the most graphic accounts, see Paul Fregosi's "Jihad."

But that's okay. Don't give them a good Muslim burial. And why should not Infidels decide to do the same -- to refrain from delivering corpses of terrorists to Muslim authorities with the same pious phrase that "Muslims could not possibly have done this, these were not Muslims."

This has possibilities.

Posted by: Hugh [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 1, 2008 2:51 PM

Abdullah please give us a break, do you think we are stupid? If these imitations of dog turds had been Hindu terrorists they would have attacked Muslim mosques. Did it happen, no they attacked kuffers Hindus and nationals of the Great Satan and the little Satan. 10% of the dead on the list were foreigners mainly white. We must of cause not forget there compassion, they let a couple of Turks go. I wonder what religious faith they followed. Now do us all a favour and extract you head out of you anal orifice and start to smell the coffee instead of wallowing around in that anal detritus of the bovine variety.

Posted by: Holger Dansker [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 1, 2008 2:52 PM

Wow Abdullah, really grasping at straws (or in this case, strings.) You sir, know perfectly well that the terrorists were Muslim, and I'm sure you're intimately familiar with the modus operandi of takfiris, and their behavior prior to and during previous attacks and getaway attempts.
What I do wonder, though, is why you have been so conspicuously silent, ever since the guilty verdict was announced in the Holy Land Foundation/CAIR case? You have mentioned before that you were from Texas.

Posted by: Abu Allah [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 1, 2008 2:55 PM
REFUSING TO BURY THEM? DUH... THEY WERE HINDU

Well, it all makes sense now. No wonder they were refused burial in the Muslim cemetary. They were unclean infidels all along. But why were they being considered for burial there?

Come on, Abdullah, you're better than that.

BTW, you ignored my response at http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/023582.php#c602646

Posted by: Concerned Citizen [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 1, 2008 3:03 PM

Abdullah,

I have a song for you. Sing it out loud ... sing with heart, feel it. It could do you some good.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umw1-Do3-ho

Posted by: ethoman [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 1, 2008 3:27 PM

Péguy, haven't seen you here before. Do you know Abdullah, another Muslim apologist dispensing taqiyya here?

About the dead bodies of the terrorists - how about stuffing them in a pig's carcass and then cremating them, as suggested above. One poster suggested mixing the ashes with manure (presumably pig's manure) and then using it as fertilizer. That would be great, but perhaps a more satisfying usage would be for the Indians to mix the ashes with explosives used in artillery or small arms munitions. These would be reserved especially for skirmishes with Pakistani terrorists in Kashmir.

Posted by: Eastview [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 1, 2008 3:44 PM

ROFL, ethoman.

As for the jihadis, I have 2 ideas, both of which involve never burying them: either place their heads on pikes, as if to send the message that the tables have turned, and "not in my pluralistic, tolerant Hindustan," or this: http://www.custermen.com/ItalyWW2/ILDUCE/Mussolini.htm

Then pig dung fertilizer.

Posted by: jdamn [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 1, 2008 4:31 PM

The Indian Muslims may (or may not) be in a position to give them a heroes funeral, because the eyes of the world are on them.

Gorkali, sheikh

The situation must be tense in India, and anything can cause the Hindu majority from taking retribution. It is therefore not surprising that the Jama Masjid Trust is playing it very safe. Indian Muslims are in full Taqqiya mode.

So the upshot will be that the civilised (dhimmi) Indian government will sent the bodies to Pakistan. There, they will be given a shaheed's funeral, just as happened to the 7/7 murderous "martyrs". The BBC ofcourse, did not publicise this event.

Posted by: DP111 [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 1, 2008 5:18 PM

I think I found Abdulla Mikailla on the U-Tube. He is not an American, he is a Pakistani. It looks like the Pakistani Government is putting out a bunch of BS videos to make believe it was neither Islamic nor Pakistani attack in Mombay.

I don't understand the language they are speaking, sure enough they drop one or two English sentences at the strategic places for folks like me to keep interested.

Here is a link to what I think is our pain-in-the-r.. Abdulla.

http://in.youtube.com/watch?v=5F4_qwtM5yY&feature=related

Posted by: MusHuntCowboy [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 1, 2008 6:00 PM

I forgot to mention that Abdulla Mikalla is a Defense Analyst of Pakistan. If someone takes these clowns serious, they ought to examine their head immediately.

Posted by: MusHuntCowboy [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 1, 2008 6:04 PM

I think Péguy was being extremely sarcastic.

Posted by: interestinconundrum [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 1, 2008 6:20 PM

"People who committed this heinous crime cannot be called Muslim. Islam does not permit this sort of barbaric crime"

Bull-s. Islam DEMANDS this sort of crime. Those bastards are as muslim as a muslim can be.

Posted by: Goob [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 1, 2008 6:46 PM

@ LazarofSerbia,
I too hope that my Hindu brothers and sisters living in India will finally WAKE UP.
The only thing muslims understand is brute force, like what happend in Gujarat. The muslims there burned more than 50 Hindu women and children alive and as a reaction Hindus stood up, fought back and got their REVENGE.
Unfortunatly that has not happend regurly because many Hindus are still indroctinated by the anti-Hindu pseudo-seculars(f.e.Congress party and many of those other dhimmis) with that false Ghandi ahimsa (non-violence) ideology.
I realy hope they will AWAKEN before it's to late.

ps. A day will come that Europeans will mourn the fact that they hunted down people like Milosovic, Mladic, Karadic etc etc and persecuted them in a fake tribunal for being 'warcriminals'. A day will come when Europeans will miss these brave hero's, but than it will be too late.

Posted by: rammer [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 1, 2008 6:52 PM

Hey Abby!

You should have a talk with the Muslims terrorist groups in Pakistan, they are already praising the Mumbai terrorists..They are promising more attacks...They say they trained them...I believe them..Don't you?..

Posted by: pulsar182 [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 1, 2008 6:57 PM

Abby is right.

I shouldn't believe my lying eyes, my distorted ears, or my slow mind. I should believe in all his Taqqiya and just go back to my comfortable MSM induced coma.

Posted by: senor doeboy [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 1, 2008 11:19 PM
It looks to be about an inch wide and a half inch thick...Just the right size for a Micky Mouse wrist watch...

....or maybe a WWMD bracelet? Or a DieStrong one?

Posted by: yadayada [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 2, 2008 12:41 AM

MusHuntCowboy, he's not Paki. He's a Texan. You can see him here: http://in.youtube.com/watch?v=xBva5uC0Bg0

Posted by: jdamn [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 2, 2008 12:55 AM

I never made the wrong choice so I had nothing to "convert" from.
Born on true faith stayed on true faith.
Posted by: Abdullah Mikail at October 21, 2008 10:59 PM
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/023167.php#c589682

First, not a convert. Was never any religion but Islam.
Posted by: Abdullah Mikail at September 15, 2008 5:47 PM
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/022701.php#c578161

I was never on any other religion than "God is God"
I rejected any association with any western religion, and was even branded a "trouble maker" in the military when I was forced to choose "No Preference" because they they refused to stamp 'GOD' on my dog tags.
No God but God.
I read Quran when I was in my early twenties and realized what path I had always been on.
Abdullah M 10/23/2007 3:57 PM
http://www.frontpagemag.com/GoPostal/commentdetail.aspx?GUID=8260d74e-70cd-4e45-b6cf-

Here's something on AM's costar Siraj Wahaj from the archives:
http://jihadwatch.org/archives/021890.php

Posted by: Concerned Citizen [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 2, 2008 2:12 AM

I guess I'm having a problem with your "path" you were "always on", Abdullah. When did you stop believing in "inalienable rights" and "life, liberty and pursuit of happiness", and start being a Shariah advocate, inclusive of its pugilistic and dismembering unpleasantries? Or were you never on that first "path"?

Posted by: Concerned Citizen [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 2, 2008 2:19 AM

Concerted efforts by the pakistani media to say that the mumai terror plan was planned by India, US and Israil.
http://in.youtube.com/watch?v=FHQ0WXzY9sc&feature=related
http://in.youtube.com/watch?v=EoNooCnS3XU&feature=related
Big propoganda by these muslim pigs

Posted by: greaticon [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 2, 2008 3:10 AM
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