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December 4, 2008

Islam a religion of peace -- daily headlines notwithstanding!

Fresh pile of taqiyya from the OIC -- also known as the Islamic organization fervently trying to impose "blasphemy laws" on the UN. Interesting, too, how, far from spending any significant amount of time condemning the Mumbai jihadists, the OIC is more outraged that the world is rightfully associating their violent actions with the jihad.

"OIC: Islam, the religion of peace, tolerance and compassion," from the Organisation of the Islamic Conference, December 2:

With the multiplicity of terrorist attacks perpetrated recently by deviant and fanatic individuals, the General Secretariat of the Organisation of the Islamic Conference (OIC) has noticed a tendency of a section of the media, to interpose the word "Islam" in reporting these incidences.
Gee, why is that? Could it be because these "deviant and fanatic individuals" are constantly quoting the Koran and the words of Islam's prophet Muhammad? Could it be because they are constantly threatening infidels with death and destruction (or at least dhimmitude) -- in accordance with Islamic law? Could it be because they make clear time and time again that their gripe with their neighbors -- be they Hindus, Buddhists, Christians, or Jews -- is a product of a well known, well documented, Islamic supremacist world-view?
Islam, the religion of peace, tolerance and compassion, that sanctifies the human soul, and whose universal message is one of mutual peaceful coexistence among all the peoples of the world, regardless of their ethnicities, race, religions or languages, and which calls for kind reasoning and dialogue with all their fellow human beings, abhors and despises all such criminal acts and had enacted the utmost severe punishment for their perpetrators.
One wonders if they are able to write such things with a straight face... All the above would be true if Muslims were to ignore the Koranic "sword verses" (e.g., 9:5 and 9:29), the doctrine of abrogation, which makes these verses supreme vis-a-vis the "peaceful" verses, the "pattern" of Muhammad's life (his sunna, which Sunnis are to emulate), and which consisted of violence, discrimination, and intolerance to non-Muslims, the decrees and fatwas of Islam's most authoritative ulema, and sharia's division of the world into Dar al-Islam and Dar al-Harb that must be in constant struggle until Islam prevails. Once we can move past these problematic "inconveniences," then we can begin to evaluate whether Islam is a "religion of peace" -- and all the rest.
It is frustrating to see some circles, still, maliciously trying to establish conceptual link between such evil and wicked practices and Islam, the religion that condemns, scorns and outlaws them.

It is on the premise of this irrefutable fact that we, in the OIC, call upon all well-intentioned peoples of the world [i.e., willful dhimmis], not to give to these criminals any right to present Islam, a right that Islam itself denies them. Those who refer to the perpetrators, as acting on behalf of Islam, help them by offering them justification, anchor and premise that they don't have or deserve. On the other hand, the generalization of the guilt of a few aberrant misguided individuals, to engulf the adherents of a religion of 1.5 billion followers is an outrageous judgment and amounts to an illegal collective punishment on a global scale. Moreover, any attempt to implicate all Muslims in such a wicked and wanton acts goes contrary to the well established principles of international law.

It is therefore hoped that media will avoid resorting to any reference to Islam when narrating such events in order not to disseminate erroneous information that might jeopardize the basic human rights of Muslims, the world over.

Posted by Raymond at December 4, 2008 2:25 AM
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"One wonders if they are able to write such things with a straight face... "


The same people who blame the Zionist for the attack on Mumbai and also blame the Zionist oppression of "Palestine for the attack."

The Zionists in their warped logic where the cause of the attack as well as the attackers.

It's like that "peace loving Muslim fellow" who held up a sign at a demonstration stating the Holcoaust was a Jewish lie and then thanked Allah for Hitler killing six million Jews.

Posted by: scribe10 [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 4, 2008 3:14 AM

See no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil--about Islam. Islam, however, is the SOURCE of these outrages. Ignorance of Islam is totalitarian Islam's strength.


Posted by: John C [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 4, 2008 3:23 AM

"regardless of their ethnicities, race, religions or languages.. . "

But not gender.

Never gender -- because in all "Abrahamic" religions, the female is always, always the inferior. It's not worth even talking about, because it's assumed. Islam simply amps up the volume on the abuse to the point that the damage can no longer be ignored.

I've spoken about this a number of times. The spearpoint, for a massive cultural change, occurs first with the control of women. In short, watch for the bag-headed women pushing strollers. 90% of Pakistani women have reported that they are beaten regularly; 20% of Jordanian women agree that they should be beaten; thousands of women are acid-attacked, knife-attacked, rape-attacked, harassed, frightened, intimidated, and eventually murdered (usually with rape and/or sodomy) every year by Muslim men on the holy high of Mohammed's example.

And yet, somehow, the focus always returns to the heartbroken weeping (with Youtube musical accompaniment) of infidel men about the terrible unfairness of it all. Guess what. Man up, fellas. Do something. Women lose 3 to every one of you, and yet we're as real as you are.

Posted by: Marwan'sDaughter [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 4, 2008 3:26 AM

Ah, human rights! Let us all remember human rights, so that our fellow humans, who happen to be Muslim, are not denied this expression of their religion, their basic principles, the very foundation of their faith, the right of all humans to equal worth and respect and...hang on, what am I saying?

My Muslim friend in Sudan was telling me about his friend who had married a German woman. They were very happy, etc. I asked about the possibility of Muslim women marrying non-Muslim men. "Ah, no, not possible!" he said. I told him it was, it had happened. "Ah,no," he repeated. The idea was unthinkable. Yet I knew of such an event. And the Muslim wife had refused to look after her husband's children (from the first wife, who died soon after the man's second marriage) and had caused enormous suffering to the family the man had selfishly put into her care. She was simply superior, and even when the husband was dying, his Muslim children would not visit him, and now claimed his estate, without the possibility of the non-Muslim children of this thoughtless polygamous man (a Dinka) having any rights to a share.

Posted by: PG [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 4, 2008 4:02 AM

Chabad House Massacre images
Warning : GRAPHIC

Posted by: S [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 4, 2008 4:17 AM

Didn't the OIC not long ago seek to push UN legislation that would ban the denegration of religions in general? How long did it take the Muslims to realize that they were just shooting themselves in the foot if they were to take away their own right to insult non-Islamic people?

And why do they refer to themselves as THE religion of peace and tolerance? Do they actually belive they have an exclusive claim to possessing and/or teaching virtue?

Posted by: thank_god_im_a_kuffir [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 4, 2008 4:39 AM

Many deranged dictated are easily found in the koran and hadith texts. Muslims claim the koranic texts to be the perfect and final word of God. The koranic text itself states it is to be interpreted literally - to deny this fact would be intellectually disingenuous and a failed attempt at jumping though semantic hoops.

Therefore, it should not be surprising that so many heinous atrocities take place in both the private and public spheres of life.

Gee...seems reasonable that those who call themselves muslims, and those who are considering becoming muslims, maybe ought to reconsider what they have been doing...huh?...just a thought.

I personally hope that people will have the courage and integrity to abandon islam, as many, many, millions of exmuslims, like myself, have done before them.

From a non-religious person who happens to believe in God and have his own views on spirituality, here's wishing good-will and well-being to ALL humankind. Take care out there folks, Later

Posted by: Kinky smith [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 4, 2008 5:54 AM

Kinky smith

If you *have* really and truly renounced Islam: congratulations! Welcome to the House of Life. Welcome to the Way of the Golden Rule. Welcome to Freedom. Be brave, stay safe.

You're in great company - heroes like Magdi Cristiano Allam, Wafa Sultan, Ayaan Hirsi Ali, Nonie Darwish, Ali Sina, Ibn Warraq, Mohammed Hegazy, Lina Joy, Patrick Sookhdeo, and the list goes on...including one 'Bosch Fawstin' who visits here occasionally.

Posted by: dumbledoresarmy [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 4, 2008 6:16 AM

There was a scene in 'Judgment at Nurembourg' when Spencer Tracy was pronouncing sentence on the German judges...I'll never forget what he said...

"[If the men responsible for these heinous crimes were madmen acting without forethought, than there would be no more moral significance to this tragedy than if it were from an earthquake or other act of nature. It is precisely because the perpetrators were not wild animals but men, thinking men, that civilization must pronounce judgment upon them.]"

If the IOC successfully decouples Islam from the atrocities committed by Muslim terrorists, then these episodes of mass murder will have no more moral significance than an earthquake or other act of nature...just a bunch of madmen acting out.

Tell that to the families of the dead.

Posted by: Cornelius [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 4, 2008 6:18 AM

dumbledorarmy-

Point taken. Funny too. Being green obviously shows through. Spellng mistakes and missed letters are embarasssing too. Just givin it the old college try. Should have worked out the writing before hand suppose.xoxoxoxo

Posted by: Kinky smith [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 4, 2008 6:48 AM

The OIC has become the propaganda arm of Islam reacting as damage control when the fundamental principles of Islam are displayed in glaring clarity for all the world to see. Evan as proponents of the carnage explain their acts as primarily the results of religious, or more rightfully Islamic dogma and devotion to that ideology, the Muslim propagandists are quick to dismiss the fact that the subjugation and/or murder of unbelievers and Muslim supremacism are not contained in Islam. This argument is wearing thin so the tyrants want to be sure that international law prevents anyone from seeing or speaking the truth.

Posted by: Briars [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 4, 2008 6:50 AM

Fresh pile of taqiyya...

What a vision! Well done, Raymond.

Posted by: George Mc. [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 4, 2008 7:07 AM

If it were not serious,it is funny in a way, that the more islamists kill and maim infidels, the more the OIC yapping becomes more of a noise than anything serious. l would say most people would agree even those too PC that islam has serious flaws.

Posted by: ZenaWarriorPrincess [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 4, 2008 7:54 AM

“Islam, the religion of peace, tolerance and compassion..”
that explicitly calls (just ask imams) for the execution of apostates, stoning of women adulterers, blasphemers, the cutting off of hands and feet (opposite sides) of thieves & trouble makers and the total absence of any free speech & expression that allows criticism of Islamic oppression of their dhimmi.

No, I don’t think they could have had a straight face when the OIC dumped their latest smelly taqiyya pile.

Posted by: FM [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 4, 2008 8:00 AM

"It is frustrating to see some circles, still, maliciously trying to establish conceptual link between such evil and wicked practices and Islam, the religion that condemns, scorns and outlaws them."

Well, then, since the perpetrators of such "evil and wicked practices" were operating outside the bounds of Islam and are therefore not True Muslims, I guess no Muslim will care how we handle the disposal of dead terrorists or our treatment of captured living terrorists. We can dispose of the bodies in the cheapest, most efficient manner (I suggest cremation followed by dumping the ashes into a sewage treatment plant). As for those residents of Gitmo and others imprisoned on terrorism-related charges, seeing as how they aren't really Muslims, we can dispense with the imans, the halal meals, and the oh-so-delicate Korans.

Think of all savings in $$$ and hassles! And the Muslim world won't care a whit because those evil, wicked people aren't really Muslims.

Posted by: CJ [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 4, 2008 8:41 AM

This is nothing more than self-serving rhetoric that does not cite any Koranic authority for such a "stern" view of the Mumbai murders and, as always, the West is merely trying to besmirch the oft quoted 1.5 billion Muslims.

What a joke. The fact that they put out this propoganda spin speaks volumes of their view that the West (America in particular) buys what they are selling.

Mr. Spencer, I appreciate your efforts to take America's collective head out of the sand.

Islam is not a religion of peace. It is a vile tool of evil and its purpose is to subgigate, oppress and enslave. I fear for our children and our country if the populace continues to live in ignorance of the danger this force of evil possess. How many 9/11s, 7/7s and Mumbais must happen before the populace starts thinking critically?


Posted by: Captain America [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 4, 2008 9:23 AM

This is nothing more than self-serving rhetoric that does not cite any Koranic authority for such a "stern" view of the Mumbai murders and, as always, the West is merely trying to besmirch the oft quoted 1.5 billion Muslims.

What a joke. The fact that they put out this propoganda spin speaks volumes of their view that the West (America in particular) buys what they are selling.

Mr. Spencer, I appreciate your efforts to take America's collective head out of the sand.

Islam is not a religion of peace. It is a vile tool of evil and its purpose is to subgigate, oppress and enslave. I fear for our children and our country if the populace continues to live in ignorance of the danger this force of evil possess. How many 9/11s, 7/7s and Mumbais must happen before the populace starts thinking critically?


Posted by: Captain America [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 4, 2008 9:25 AM

This is nothing more than self-serving rhetoric that does not cite any Koranic authority for such a "stern" view of the Mumbai murders and, as always, the West is merely trying to besmirch the oft quoted 1.5 billion Muslims.

What a joke. The fact that they put out this propoganda spin speaks volumes of their view that the West (America in particular) buys what they are selling.

Mr. Spencer, I appreciate your efforts to take America's collective head out of the sand.

Islam is not a religion of peace. It is a vile tool of evil and its purpose is to subgigate, oppress and enslave. I fear for our children and our country if the populace continues to live in ignorance of the danger this force of evil possess. How many 9/11s, 7/7s and Mumbais must happen before the populace starts thinking critically?


Posted by: Captain America [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 4, 2008 9:25 AM

Sorry for the multiple posts. I kept getting a message I was not signed in. Then when it seemed to accept the post. It hung and nothing seemed to be happening. I was not aware I posting multiple times.

Posted by: Captain America [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 4, 2008 9:28 AM

"Islam, the religion of peace, tolerance and compassion,"

There are less and less people falling for that al-taqiyya crap.

Posted by: darcy [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 4, 2008 9:39 AM

The 2nd photo from the link up above is amazing in the number of orbs - spirits - found in the Chabad House after the Massacre.

Posted by: darcy [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 4, 2008 9:43 AM

Be it noted that Mr. Ibrahim, not Mr. Spencer, made this cogent and informative post. Well said, sir.

Posted by: Papa Whiskey [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 4, 2008 11:04 AM

Bosch Fawstin was a Muslim? He's an artist! What did he do with his time? Spend it all with his face on the ground?

Posted by: jdamn [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 4, 2008 4:32 PM

Yup, jdamn.

Bosch Fawstin is an apostate. 'Free, free at last!' He saw his chance and he took it...I think, like Mr Spencer, he now inhabits a Secure Undisclosed Location. His own family, if I recall correctly, Muslims all, want to kill him.

Like so many who have defected from the Ummah he now spends his time trying to warn and rally the kafir.

Think of Ayaan Hirsi Ali's no-nonsense prescription for the curbing of Islam: NO MORE ISLAMIC SCHOOLS. Think of Ibn Warraq writing 'Defending the West'. They're people on fire, because they were dead, and now they know what it's like to be alive. Daniel Shayesteh, a Persian who left Islam for Christianity, called his testimony 'Exodus from Darkness'. He's now doing the rounds of the charismatic/ pentecostal christian church network, giving them - so far as I can see - exactly the same grim warnings that Mr Spencer gives.

The apostates *know* Islam. They therefore know what has to be done to stop it in its tracks. They've tasted freedom - like Fawstin with his art, they're revelling in it - but they also know that the amazing free world they've discovered is under mortal threat...that the monster from which they've fled is coming after them.


Posted by: dumbledoresarmy [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 4, 2008 8:59 PM

I had no idea. Thank you, DA. I just checked out Daniel Shayesteh's site and I love it. I just assumed that Bosch Fawstin was Germanic and from a Judeo-Christian family, as his avatar would suggest. I like to think he's as good-looking as that avatar. Exodus From Darkness is a great resource. I'm glad to have it in my bookmarks. Persians seem to be more honest and introspective about Islam, in my estimation. Women like Wafa Sultan, Ayaan Hirsi Ali, and Nonie Darwish have a different perspective, having been under the boot of Islam, but Ali Sina and Reza Safa are amazing resources to keep up your sleeve. Of course, most of the more reputable Islamic scholarship and even the compilation of the Koran as we know it was arried out by Persians, which once again proves that Arabs are NOT "the best of people."

Posted by: jdamn [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 5, 2008 9:16 AM
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