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December 12, 2008

MILF and its jihadi child-soldiers

As this story indicates, first MILF insisted that it did not utilize children for their jihad; now it is saying that it will stop using them -- most likely since that will help gain it "a sense of legitimacy and boost the chances of a negotiated peace." At any rate, it should be recalled that the concept of "slave-soldiers" in Islam is a time-honored tradition and phenomenon. The caliphates and sultanates especially utilized slave-soldiers, such as the Mamelukes and Janissaries. Though slaves have been used as soldiers by many cultures and people, Daniel Pipes, author of Slave Soldiers and Islam, makes the case "that there was something unique about their use in the Muslim countries."

"PHILIPPINES: Muslim rebels agree to end use of child soldiers," from Reuters, December 12:

MANILA, 12 December 2008 (IRIN) - Muslim separatist Moro Islamic Liberation Front (MILF) rebels have agreed to end the recruitment and use of child soldiers, the UN special representative for children and armed conflict, Radhika Coomaraswamy, has announced.

"When we met with the leadership of the MILF, they agreed that they had children in their midst and they agreed to enter into an action plan with a UN country team to ensure the separation of the children from their ranks and their return to civilian life," she said...

If the MILF follows through on this commitment, it could given them a sense of legitimacy and boost the chances of a negotiated peace, she said.

The 12,000-strong MILF has been fighting for an independent Islamic state on Mindanao, in the mineral-rich southern third of this predominantly Roman Catholic country of 91 million people. Tens of thousands have been displaced, in what the government and international aid agencies have described as a complex emergency situation that could lead to a full-blown humanitarian crisis if left unchecked.

Along with the Al-Qaeda-linked Abu Sayyaf group and the communist New People's Army, the MILF has been included in a UN list of groups using child combatants.

Denial:

In the past, the MILF denied using child soldiers, but acknowledged they had been taking care of boys under eight who were orphaned in some of its camps in the south. It argued it was protecting these boys from hostile fire and giving them an education.

Of course they are; that's where the jihad always starts -- education: education in the Koran and Hadith; education in the sunna of their warrior-prophet. And so forth.
But military intelligence sources and child rights groups say many of them are used on the battlefield or in support roles as porters, guides or camp hands.

The London-based Coalition to Stop the Use of Child Soldiers - in a report [http://www.child-soldiers.org/home] earlier this year - said that up to 13 percent of the MILF's 12,000 strong force in 2005 were children.

Documents also declassified by the army intelligence, and obtained earlier by IRIN, showed that the MILF continued to train children as "tough, self-reliant, fighting men".

Euphemism for "child abuse"?

Posted by Raymond at December 12, 2008 1:54 PM
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Lest anyone forget, MILF is a splinter of the Moro National Liberation Front (MNLF), which was the principle secessionist fighting force in Mindanao in the 70s. After protracted negotiations, the Philippine government reached an agreement with the MNLF, granting southern Mindanao broad autonomy and the MNLF a role in administering the region. Before the ink dried on the agreement, the MILF was born, vowed to fight on for an "Islamic state"...and today represents the "aspirations" of the Mindanao Muslim community.

Moral?

Nothing short of Sharia will satisfy the aspirations of Muslims....this applies to the Philippines today, and Europe and America tomorrow.

Posted by: Cornelius [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 12, 2008 2:34 PM

Documents also declassified by the army intelligence, and obtained earlier by IRIN, showed that the MILF continued to train children as "tough, self-reliant, fighting men".

The peaceful Mooooslimbs were training their children to be "fighting men", so that they could love, and tolerate the ways of their non-mooooooslimb neighbors. These peaceful mooossslimbs educated their children in the way of their Quran, and Hadith so that they might know and understand the life of Mohammed, so that they might shine the light, peace, and tolerance of Islam on their non-mooooooslimb neighbors.

Posted by: ethoman [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 12, 2008 2:58 PM

Wait a minute we were at war with Mislims in the Philippines as long ago as 1900! WOW!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/654540/posts
President McKinley said:

“The Philippines are not ours to exploit, but to develop, civilize, educate and train for self-government.” And to that cause the Americans in Mindanao, meaning to preserve the Moro way of life, intended to suppress piracy, eliminate the slave trade, prevent intertribal war and bring the “natives” into the modern world. But piracy, slavery and fighting were as much a part of the Moro way of life as was Islam. Thus, when the Americans began to blaze trails, take a census, impose a head tax and customs duties, and set up schools and the like, the Moros saw those well-meant but abrupt changes as threatening to their religion and their social fabric. The invaders never interfered with Islamic customs. Yet as they installed telegraph lines and introduced health programs and medicine, the Moros reacted with increased fear that their children would learn English and subtly become Christianized."

"But piracy, slavery and fighting were as much a part of the Moro way of life as was Islam."

WOW! You don't say!

Posted by: ethoman [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 12, 2008 3:56 PM

Gee another shocker raiseing there kids as fighters so whats the palistinians, hamas ,hezbullah, chechens and the taliban doing basically again the media has alot of catching up to do huh.

Posted by: spcbat [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 12, 2008 4:06 PM

Why would the peaceful moooslims feel that slavery was as much a part of a way of life as Islam?

Taken from Islam Q&A online.


What is a right hand servant? Do you have to be married to have one? How can you finalize it and get one and state this person as your right hand servant?.


Praise be to Allaah.

Firstly:

If Allaah enables the Muslim mujahideen to defeat kaafir enemies in war, then the men may be killed, ransomed, set free without ransom or enslaved. The choice between these four options is to be made by the ruler, according to what he thinks is the best course.

With regard to the women, they become slaves and “those whom one's right hand possesses” (described as a “right hand servant” in the question). Male children also become slaves. The ruler shares out these slaves among the mujaahideen.

Shaykh al-Shanqeeti (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: The reason why a person may be taken as a slave is his being a kaafir and waging war against Allaah and His Messenger. If Allaah enables the Muslims who are striving and sacrificing their lives and their wealth and all that Allaah has given them to make the word of Allaah supreme over the kaafirs, then He allows them to enslave the kuffaar when they capture them, unless the ruler chooses to free them or to ransom them, if that serves the interests of the Muslims.

Adwa’ al-Bayaan, 3/387

Islam limited the sources of slaves which existed before the mission of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) to just one source, namely slavery resulting from capturing prisoners from among the kuffaar.

Islam treated female slaves more kindly in their enslavement than other cultures did. Their honour was not considered to be permissible to anyone by way of prostitution, which was the fate of female prisoners of war in most cases. Rather Islam made them the property of their masters alone, and forbade anyone else to also have intercourse with them, even if that was his son. Islam made it their right to become free through a contract of manumission; it encouraged setting them free and promised reward for that. Islam made setting slaves free an obligation in the case of some kinds of expiation (kafaarah), such as the expiation for accidental killing, zihaar (a jaahili form of divorce in which a man said to his wife, “You are to me as my mother’s back”), and breaking oaths. They received the best treatment from their masters, as was enjoined by the pure sharee’ah.

Secondly:

A mujaahid does not have to be married in order to gain possession of a “slave whom one’s right hand possesses.” None of the scholars expressed such a view.

Thirdly:

If a mujaahid takes possession of a female slave or male slave, it is permissible for him to sell them. In either case – whether one acquires a slave through battle or through purchase – it is not permissible for a man to have intercourse with a female slave until she has had a period from which it may be ascertained that she is not pregnant. If she is pregnant then he must wait until she gives birth.

It was narrated that Ruwayfi’ ibn Thaabit al-Ansaari said: I heard the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) say on the day of Hunayn: “It is not permissible for any man who believes in Allaah and the Last Day to irrigate the crop of another else – meaning to have intercourse with a woman who is pregnant. And it is not permissible for a man who believes in Allaah and the Last Day to have intercourse with a captured woman until he has established that she is not pregnant. And it is not permissible for a man who believes in Allaah and the Last Day to sell any booty until it has been shared out.”

Narrated by Abu Dawood, 2158; classed as hasan by Shaykh al-Albaani in Saheeh Abi Dawood, 1890.

For many reasons, including the fact that the Muslims have long since given up jihad, slavery is now very rare. This means that the Muslims must be extra cautious by examining any case in which it is claimed that someone is a slave, whether male or female.

Posted by: ethoman [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 12, 2008 4:22 PM

atleast Islam Q&A online doesn't hide the fact that their cult is a pile of shit

Posted by: Péguy [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 12, 2008 4:31 PM

"at least Islam Q&A online doesn't hide the fact that their cult is a pile of shit"

Peguy

LOL! yeah gotta hand it to Islam Q&A for that don't we, but I think the long conflict in the Philippines illustrates well the basics of today’s conflict. Look at McKinley he basically just wanted to end piracy, and conflict in the area. To do that he thought that he could build schools, roads, and modernize the area for the local Muslims to bring them out of poverty, and thus end their tendency towards barbarism. McKinley was of the same mistaken belief that our leaders are under today. That violence and civil unrest is the result of poverty in the Islamic world. Over 100 years later, and we are still getting it wrong. Any time Muslims have technological/military parody with non-Muslims there will be war.

Posted by: ethoman [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 12, 2008 5:13 PM

With regard to the women, they become slaves and “those whom one's right hand possesses” (described as a “right hand servant” in the question). Male children also become slaves. The ruler shares out these slaves among the mujaahideen.

It apparently just goes without saying that little girls are made to be sex-slaves for terrorists and murderers.

Posted by: jdamn [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 12, 2008 6:00 PM

This totalitarian system disguised as a religion is given a pass by our government and media.
The Q&A that ethoman posted should make our media think twice about their love affair with islam.
This is a fatwa by a modern day cleric talking about US. Do any of you press idiots get it?

Posted by: interestinconundrum [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 12, 2008 6:58 PM

"predominantly Roman Catholic country of 91 million people"...what does this have to do with the story if they don't even mention the fact that it's the muslims causing the trouble. It's so ironic that the author knows this has something to do with religion (on the muslim side), yet is afraid to mention the word. But it's OK to associate the story to a majority of catholics. When will people start connecting all the is-lame-ic dots together around the world. I'm totally disgusted by MSM these days.

Now, the comic relief...

Q: What's the difference between Dar al-islam and Dannon yogurt?
A: The yogurt has a living culture.

Posted by: Comic Relief [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 12, 2008 7:45 PM

So what I read is that the UN is ok with them blowing people up, as long as they don't use children?

Does that mean that the UN is a sponsor of terrorism in the Philippines?

Posted by: folly [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 12, 2008 8:29 PM

The UN sponsors terror everywhere, including Israel. They threatened Peter Hammond's ministry that if he brought Bibles into Sudan they (UN Forces) would take him out. They not only sponsor terror, but they commit it too. He called their bluff, though, and lived to tell about it. They were far more concerned about his bringing Bibles in than they were about the jihad and the slavery, which they fund. They were very clear about that.

Posted by: jdamn [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 12, 2008 8:47 PM

This one is for Hugh:

MILF says US govt has unfinished obligation toward Moro people


http://www.manilatimes.net/national/2008/dec/01/yehey/prov/20081201pro1.html

Muhammad Ameen, chairman of the Moro separatist group Central Committee secretariat, said the US government carries “an unfinished obligation to the Moro people when they turned them over to the Filipinos despite their protestations in the grant of independence in 1946.”

This must be rectified, he said, referring to the Moros’ refusal to become part of the Philippines. “This historical error must be corrected immediately or the fighting in Mindanao escalates,” said Ameen.


Appreciate your comment on this, Mr Fitzgerald!

Posted by: sheik yer'mami [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 13, 2008 1:09 AM

The New Janissaries. That should be the name of a book - ok Robert? send me the commission. I copyrighted it. All you bloggers hands off.

Seriously, how can we take them serious? How sickening can you get? It's like sacrificing your children to Thor. To the god of war. At least the Sultan took captives. These sick meemy geemys take the weakest most vulnerable of their own. Dogs do better.

Posted by: sainte [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 13, 2008 4:26 AM

"Meemy geemys?"

Posted by: jdamn [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 13, 2008 9:15 AM

Yeah - that's nice for fud ruckers. Etiquette jd, etiquette. Gotta tow the line and read between em, you know.

Posted by: sainte [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 14, 2008 2:14 AM
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