O well: looks like it's time for the Jews and the Christians to dust off Psalm 2, Psalm 83, Psalm 109 and Psalm 110.

Posted by: dumbledoresarmy at December 31, 2008 6:14 PM

Most of our politicians and journalists will listen to this "prayer" in arabic, not understand a word of it and will nod their dumbass heads thinking that the prayer is for the salvation of all humanity.

Its just a prayer right, how bad can it be?

Only allah can grant the wishes of murderers, pillagers, rapists and your general filth.

Posted by: Hermit at December 31, 2008 6:20 PM

This is the thanks Bush gets for being a Dhimmi: http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2001/09/20010917-11.html
.. guess Bush isn't Dhimmi enough. But no worries, his extended-family in Al-Riyadh got his back.

Posted by: Alert at December 31, 2008 6:26 PM

I take them at their word.

They mean business.

Unless Americans wake up, we could see millions, perhaps tens, even hundreds of millions slaughtered one day in the US.

Posted by: Wild Jew at December 31, 2008 6:27 PM

This is the thanks Bush gets for being a Dhimmi: http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2001/09/20010917-11.html
.. guess Bush isn't Dhimmi enough. But no worries, his extended-family in Al-Riyadh got his back.

Posted by: Alert

You are right. This is the root of the problem. President Bush is far more dangerous to our survival than the jihadists; because he is on their side. George W. Bush is the enemy within. For whatever reason, he absolutely refuses to define our enemy. This can never be forgiven.

Posted by: Wild Jew at December 31, 2008 6:31 PM

TREASON

A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and he carries his banners openly. But the traitor moves among those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the galleys, heard in the very hall of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor—he speaks in the accents familiar to his victims, and wears their face and their garment, and he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation—he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of a city—he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to be feared.......Cicero, 42 B.C.E.

Posted by: Wild Jew at December 31, 2008 6:32 PM

The delusion of these people is unbelievable.

There is no "allah," a pre-Islamic Arabian pagan moon deity. Mohammedans are such pitiful Barbarians.

A mentally-challenged person is 100 times more intelligent than a deluded Mohammedan.

Posted by: darcy at December 31, 2008 6:35 PM

President Bush is far more dangerous to our survival than the jihadists; because he is on their side. George W. Bush is the enemy within. For whatever reason, he absolutely refuses to define our enemy. This can never be forgiven.

Posted by: Wild Jew at December 31, 2008 6:31 PM

The traitor should be impeached: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Movement_to_impeach_George_W._Bush
......and prosecuted: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73KIpzrUXI8

Posted by: Alert at December 31, 2008 6:43 PM

This should be all over YouTube. These are minds on Islam. There is nothing to be done to change those minds. I have heard "discussion show" hosts asking, with misguided hostility, how Israel thinks it can possibly "change minds" in Gaza. It is not attempting to "change minds" in Gaza. It is attempting to prevent the Gazan Arabs from possessing 10,000 rockets, and anti-tank guns, and explosives, and weapons laboratories all over the place, and the hundreds of tunnels that help make the smuggling of arms of every kind possible. If some minds of Gazan Arabs happen to change because of the spectacle of Hamas trying to lure or persuade Gazan Arabs to "protect" the Hamas arms depots, and the apartments of Hamas bigshots, by acting as human shields, that is merely by way of lagniappe, an extra. The main thing is always and everywhere to deprive the Arabs and Muslims of the wherewithal to harm Infidels. It can be military equipment, as in Gaza. It can be money, as with the Money Weapon deployed all over the Western world to pay for mosques and madrasas and Western hirelings -- supposed "scholars" of Islam, employed by such operations as John Esposito's "Center for Muslim-Christian Understanding," journalists, former diplomats, former intelligence agents (see Raymond Close, do), or all the former political figures who have benefited so richly -- beginning with Bill Clinton and James Baker and so many others -- from their association with Saudis and other Gulf Arabs, who enjoy conferring largesse on powerful Westerners whom, they rightly think, can be influenced by those Saudi and other Arab sums.

You can't change the immutable texts of Qu'ran, Hadith, and Sira. You cannot make Muslims, save for the most mentally and morally advanced -- the ones who, of course, are the least certain of Islam, the ones closest on the road to apostasy -to begin to see how non-Muslims might feel about their treatment at the hands of Muslims. Almost no Arabs can conceivably sympathize with the Israelis, or even begin to entertain the idea that non-Muslims, and non-Arabs, might actually have a right to states of their own, in the vast territories that in the last few decades have amazingly been come to be known, so misleadingly, as "the Arab world." Don't expect any Arabs or Muslims to be able to possess the empathetic imagination, to imagine what it must be like to be Israeli, having 10,000 rockets lobbed at your population centers, indiscriminately, since 2001, with 6,000 of them being lobbed ever since August, 2005, when even the most tendentious Arab and Muslim propagandist flinging about the word "occupied" knows perfectly well that every last Israeli left Gaza, and the Israelis -- eternally hopeful, eternally innocent of Islam, eternally naive about a "permanent peace" through one hudaibiyya treaty after another -- kept thinking that just perhaps, this time, the Gazan Arabs might begin to try to create a decent society, and not spend all their UNRWA-funded leisure attempting to make war on Israel. How wrong they were. And they will be wrong again, if they listen, for one minute, to those who idiotically tell them they have to worry about the "effect" of their attempt to diminish the gigantic arsenals accumulated by the Gazan Arabs. It is the power to inflict damage on Infidels, and not what Muslims think or pretend to think, for the sake of some ignorant Western interviewer or ignorant-of-Islam fool of an ex-diplomat (e.g., Edward Djerijian, he of the Baker Institute), that matter in Gaza today, and in Western Europe tomorrow, and in the United States the day after tomorrow.

Posted by: Hugh at December 31, 2008 6:49 PM

Wild Jew a fitting quote from the man who was called the "First American" by history.
Yes we are at war and we are losing to the Liberals and the Muslim demons. One is a Traitor the other his Master.
GOD be with us all!

Posted by: gypsedrifter at December 31, 2008 6:52 PM

The traitor should be impeached: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Movement_to_impeach_George_W._Bush
......and prosecuted: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73KIpzrUXI8

Posted by: Alert

Alert, I have a big problem with where you are going. I listened to Vincent Bugliosi book, "The Prosecution of George W. Bush For Murder." Bugliosi believes Bush has murdered too many innocent jihadists and he is a war criminal for supporting Israel.

Alert, come on man! My difficulty with Mr. Bush is narrowly focused. Why invoke all these nut cases like Bugliosi? Your Wikipedia post. Do you really want us to look at it item by item.

No. Enough. Please, think for yourself. Don't rely on these crazy leftists.

Posted by: Wild Jew at December 31, 2008 6:52 PM

Good grief...The Imam(?) started out singing and ends up screaming...

They want a lot from Allah.

Somehow I don't think Allah is going to help them out much.

It's been a looong time since Allah has done anything for anyone. The last human he helped out was Mohammad.

They had a falling out when Mohammad failed to 'Fight them until all worship Allah alone'.

Mohammad was doing that until he got sick and died. But death is no reason for failure as far as Allah is concerned. Mohammadans are aware of this and say (PBUH) because they are not so sure it is...

So after Mohammads death Allah relied on Abu Bakr, and a whole line of Mohammadans, up to and including today, to 'Fight them until...'.

But after 1400 years, 'Until' has still not arrived.

This is because, Islam can 'fool some of the people some of the time, but it can't fool all the people all the time'...So, 'Fight them until', continues...

And it will continue to continue until 'all worship Allah in all the world', or we collectively throw Allah off the train...

Posted by: duh_swami at December 31, 2008 6:54 PM

Don't rely on these crazy leftists.

Posted by: Wild Jew at December 31, 2008 6:52 PM

Fine. But remember that you are giving a pass to:
- Crushing debt of the endless Iraq war, faught to protect Al-Sauds, at America's expense of bood and lives, based on lies.
- Open Borders, illegal immigration, amnesty and prosecution of patriotic border patrol agents Compean and Ramos: http://ramos-compean.blogspot.com.
- Cover-up of Saudi Arabia's involvement in 9/11.
- Special status of "allies" to terrorists from Saudi Arabia.
- Arms, aid and other previliges to the mother of Taliban, Pakistan, who:
...... orchestrated 9/11.
...... murdered Daniel Pearl.
...... murdered 174 civilians in Mumnbai.
- Katrina blunder.
This from a POTUS/Commander-in-chief, who fed of of the same Americans he sold-out, once voted in by:
- Spreading the propaganda of his masters in Al-Riyadh.
- Leaving America's borders open to pay the Corporations that donated to his campaign.
In Bush's own words.. "Politics is about Money and Votes".
Ask yourself, party affiliations aside, what is the right thing to do?

Posted by: Alert at December 31, 2008 7:24 PM

Alert, several of your issues are valid, especially the Saudi cover-up. The following are a few that I quickly picked up from the Wikipedia piece you posted:

1) On June 9, 2008, Representative Dennis Kucinich (D-Ohio), introduced a resolution, H.Res. 1258, to impeach president George W. Bush. At the end of the evening on June 10, Kucinich offered a motion to refer HRes 1258 to the House Judiciary Committee. On June 11, the House voted 251-166 to send the resolution to the Committee.[105]"

Isn't Kucinich a huge Muslim jihadist apologist?

2) Keith Ellison was the leading figure behind the resolution to impeach Bush brought to the Minnesota State House of Representatives in May 2006 (see below). Ellison said “I absolutely know and can show that (the president) deserves it; he deserves to be impeached.”[84]

Ellison was elected to the United States House of Representatives in November 2006. During the campaign and when he was named to the House Judiciary Committee, Ellison repeatedly called for an investigation into a possible impeachment.[85][86] In support of his candidacy, he “received a $1,000 contribution from ImpeachPAC”.[86]..."

Isn't Keith Ellison the Congressman who was sworn into office using a Qur'an? I'm sorry Alert but no offence intended toward you. Isn't Ellison a member of Nation of Islam? Isn't he a Muslim jihadist sympathizer?

3)In the context of the "War on Terrorism", Bush ordered the wiretapping of certain international calls to and from the U.S. without a warrant....

Shouldn't Bush order the wiretapping of these killers? Or is this to you an impeachable offence?

4) Following the September 11 attacks, the Bush administration advocated that suspected Al-Qaeda and Taliban members would be designated as "unlawful combatants". They suggested that, as such, they were not protected under the Geneva Conventions...."

I cannot say this is wrong. I am not an international lawyer. What is wrong with this Alert?

5) The alleged responsibility of the Bush administration in the mishandling of Hurricane Katrina...

Katrina was an act of God as they say. Maybe God was angry at Bush for his part in the mass-expulsion of Jews from Gush Katif. Katrina blew in hours after this mass-expulsion. Is this an impeachable offense?

Posted by: Wild Jew at December 31, 2008 7:45 PM

Yes Alert, I was right about Kucinich. You invoked Kucinich in your bid to impeach Bush. All I am suggesting is that you be careful who you ally with. Why ally with Kucinich?

http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/kucinich_israel_hamas/2008/12/30/166330.html

Rep. Kucinich to U.N.: Investigate Israel for Hamas Attacks

Tuesday, December 30, 2008 10:37 AM

Rep. Dennis Kucinich has parted ways with his Democratic colleagues and called for a United Nations investigation into what he calls Israel’s “disproportionate” attacks on Gaza.

Referring to Israel’s air assault on Hamas targets in Gaza, the Ohio legislator issued a statement saying: “All this was, and is, disproportionate, indiscriminate mass violence in violation of international law. Israel is not exempt from international law and must be held accountable.”

The perpetrators of the rocket barrages aimed at Israeli population centers should be brought to justice, said Kucinich, adding that Israel “cannot create a war against an entire people in order to attempt to bring to justice the few who are responsible.” ....

Posted by: Wild Jew at December 31, 2008 7:50 PM

Wild Jew,

I can see where your defence of Bush comes from. The accusors. You have a problem with the accusors and thus, condoning the actionsof the accused. But you well know tha ttwo wrongs do not make a right. Yes, democrats are out to get Bush, but for the wrong reasons (one of them being the wire-tapping offence, which I believe is in defence of America). However, the damage done by the following are far-reaching:
- Cover-up of enemy of United States, Saudi Arabia.
- Leaving borders open to repay corporations with illegal labor.
In my humble opinion, regardless of Kucinich or Ellison, the above two are grave enough, in themselves to impeach Bush.
Not Katrina, which was an act of God, but the RESPONSE to Katrina, is what Bush is accountable for. And by any standards, the response was not only inadequate, but incompetent.
At some point Americans should, regardless of party affiliations, stop turning a blind eye to the blunders of their favourite elected officials, use commonsense and judgment and do the right thing, for the nation.

Posted by: Alert at December 31, 2008 8:03 PM

Alert, I voted for Bush. I regret ever voting for the man. I believe Bush has betrayed his nation. What he's done is evil pure and simple.

Nevertheless, I've got to take these things one by one. My issues with Bush are that he has lied about our enemies, he covered up Saudi Arabia's complicity in the 9/11 atrocities and he declared war on our only ally in the Middle East, Israel.

I would hesitate to invoke jihadist sympathizers in order to help make my case against George W. Bush, regardless of their motives for wanting to get Bush.

That is all I am saying.

Posted by: Wild Jew at December 31, 2008 8:15 PM

I think this "prayer" pretty much scotches the idea of Muslim Allah and the Christian God being one and the same? I'd like to see the "Interfaith" dimwits try and argue otherwise.

Posted by: PG at December 31, 2008 8:50 PM

Some prayers, those...

And still: nobody's listening. In fact they still rather attack us for telling the truth than grabbing the subversives by the short and curlies to intern and throw them out. People are just incapable to comprehend the evil of this belief-system.

But its always okay to attack the Jooozzz. Why do you think that is?

Posted by: sheik yer'mami at December 31, 2008 9:01 PM

O God, take care of the sources of injustice and oppression,

Oh God, direct your forces against Islam, the centre of kufr and fasad

etc., etc., etc.

That's a DOUBLE DARE! In other words, although I (like most "infidels") take their actions seriously, I view their pleading to a fictional moon god as a sign of weakness -- one to be mocked.

Posted by: MiamiInfidel at December 31, 2008 9:08 PM

Wild Jew,

Looks like in your hesitation to invoke jihadist sympathizers, you have forgiven Bush after quoting.... "For whatever reason, he absolutely refuses to define our enemy. This can never be forgiven."

Impeaching Bush for pissing on America's face and calling it rain: http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2001/09/20010917-11.html is the first step to fight Jihad
..... and this: http://www.vdare.com/Sailer/bush_thinking.htm

Posted by: Alert at December 31, 2008 9:29 PM

Uh, news flash to muslims: AMERICA WILL KICK YOUR COLLECTIVE ISLAMIC BUTT IF YOU SCREW WITH US.

I've seen it happen.

Posted by: Callidus at December 31, 2008 11:26 PM

Being a NY boy, 9/11 certainly hardened my heart.

Death to Islam!!

'nuff said.

Posted by: awake at December 31, 2008 11:39 PM

And I pray that the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob thwart all efforts of the Arab moon god.

Psalm 91

1 He who dwells in the shelter of the Most High
will rest in the shadow of the Almighty. [a]

2 I will say [b] of the LORD, "He is my refuge and my fortress,
my God, in whom I trust."

3 Surely he will save you from the fowler's snare
and from the deadly pestilence.

4 He will cover you with his feathers,
and under his wings you will find refuge;
his faithfulness will be your shield and rampart.

5 You will not fear the terror of night,
nor the arrow that flies by day,

6 nor the pestilence that stalks in the darkness,
nor the plague that destroys at midday.

7 A thousand may fall at your side,
ten thousand at your right hand,
but it will not come near you.

8 You will only observe with your eyes
and see the punishment of the wicked.

9 If you make the Most High your dwelling—
even the LORD, who is my refuge-

10 then no harm will befall you,
no disaster will come near your tent.

11 For he will command his angels concerning you
to guard you in all your ways;

12 they will lift you up in their hands,
so that you will not strike your foot against a stone.

13 You will tread upon the lion and the cobra;
you will trample the great lion and the serpent.

14 "Because he loves me," says the LORD, "I will rescue him;
I will protect him, for he acknowledges my name.

15 He will call upon me, and I will answer him;
I will be with him in trouble,
I will deliver him and honor him.

16 With long life will I satisfy him
and show him my salvation."

Posted by: interestinconundrum at December 31, 2008 11:53 PM

Almighty God, Heavenly Father, we thank you for Your blessings, most especially for the gift of freedom. We implore your protection against the malice of our enemies; deliver us from their evil designs, and deliver them from their blindness and hate. Remember the descendants of Jacob, Your beloved, and defend them from those who seek their destruction and ruin; bless and prosper them, in rebuke to the Islamists' unholy war.

Posted by: John C at December 31, 2008 11:58 PM

And I bind that prayer of satan in the name of Jesus Christ.
Matthew 16:19 and 18:18, "I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven."

Posted by: interestinconundrum at December 31, 2008 11:59 PM

Not to be a party pooper, but my understanding of the binding/loosing clause is that He will give His heavenly impramatur to what we forbid and permit by our actions on earth, as long as those actions expand his kingdom, in a spiritual sense, at least.

To everything there is a season, and a time to every purpose under heaven. I believe now is the time to put on moral and physical courage, even if it means getting off our knees, which it does.

Posted by: undaunted at January 1, 2009 12:11 AM

This sounds just like a fanatical Hitler tirade pre & during WWII!!

This really is testament to Allah = Satan - Death & Destruction for all infidels!! They are all demon-possessed - no-one born in the image of God can spew forth such hatred and evil! They are Satan's disciples.

Let us pray for the destruction of all terror groups, but right now, for a One-Way ticket to Hell's fire's for Hamas!, and a safe return home once this job is done for each and every heroic Zionist soldier from the IDF.

Posted by: OneWay-Jesus at January 1, 2009 12:42 AM

This sounds just like a fanatical Hitler tirade pre & during WWII!!

This really is testament to Allah = Satan - Death & Destruction for all infidels!! They are all demon-possessed - no-one born in the image of God can spew forth such hatred and evil! They are Satan's disciples.

Let us pray for the destruction of all terror groups, but right now, for a One-Way ticket to Hell's fire's for Hamas!, and a safe return home once this job is done for each and every heroic Zionist soldier from the IDF!!

Posted by: OneWay-Jesus at January 1, 2009 12:44 AM

Amen to that.

Posted by: undaunted at January 1, 2009 12:47 AM

I am in agreement with those prayers, interestinconundrum. Thank you for posting them. :-)

Posted by: champ at January 1, 2009 1:19 AM

Alert, you say I have forgiven George W. Bush. I have not forgiven George W. Bush for anything. For none of his crimes have I forgiven him. Only God can forgive Mr. Bush.

Posted by: Wild Jew at January 1, 2009 1:49 AM

Four steps to repay the terrorists in their own coin:

The first step must be to repudiate the Treaty of Tripoli, which declares that Islam and the United States are not inherently at odds. Decades of jihadism on the part of Islam have shown otherwise.

The second must be to declare that, as Islam and the United States are inherently opposed, Islam is not protected by the Constitution, and all willing adherents are traitors to the Union, dealing with them accordingly, as well as with sympathisers as the subversives they are. They may be dupes, so punish them lightly (perhaps give them an education on what Islam is REALLY all about - complete with footage of various Islamic atrocities).

The third, after cleaning out the traitors within, is to isolate the enemies without. Grant additional assistance to Israel, stop funding Hamas and Fatah via the PA, develop energy self-reliance for oil (by reducing the amount used for transport, primarily) to cut-off the Saudi plotters' cashflows, and pressure China to stop supporting the mullahs in Teheran. And many, similar steps.

The fourth step is to destroy the enemies without. They are not united; this must be used to advantage. Destroy them in isolation, and the job is then at least half-done.

Posted by: Australian at January 1, 2009 2:59 AM

Australian: Yay! Our numbers are growing! We are not Europe; we can still save ourselves, and any Europeans who can make it here. We must pressure the government relentlessly. Yes, I know, they are cowards and have done a deal with Indonesia about people-smugglers the previous government would not have dreamed of doing. But pressure is better than nothing. I am glad there are Aussies on board; the more the merrier!

Posted by: PG at January 1, 2009 4:22 AM

Isaiah 54

13: And all thy children shall be taught of the LORD; and great shall be the peace of thy children.

14: In righteousness shalt thou be established: thou shalt be far from oppression; for thou shalt not fear: and from terror; for it shall not come near thee.

15: Behold, they shall surely gather together, but not by me: whosoever shall gather together against thee shall fall for thy sake.

16: Behold, I have created the smith that bloweth the coals in the fire, and that bringeth forth an instrument for his work; and I have created the waster to destroy. (IOW,I made em, what can he do against me)

17: No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD.

Posted by: sainte at January 1, 2009 6:45 AM

Jihad in America? Why am I not surprised?

This is the price over-tolerant societies pay for harboring vipers in the bosoms of their country. They should not be surprised when they are bitten.

Posted by: Shafee al-Zindig at January 1, 2009 6:55 AM

"Alert, I have a big problem with where you are going. I listened to Vincent Bugliosi book, "The Prosecution of George W. Bush For Murder." Bugliosi believes Bush has murdered too many innocent Jihadists and he is a war criminal for supporting Israel."

I was shocked that the Charles Manson Prosecutor, and author of "Helter Skelter," could be so stupid. Shocked, I tell you. My esteem for him has almost diminished.

Posted by: darcy at January 1, 2009 8:39 AM

Praying to allah (the imaginary) is much less effective than praying to a DVD copy of "2001 - A Space Odyssey." At least the DVD can give you something - a lot of highbrow entertainment.

The only thing allah can do, on the other hand, is roughen one's knees as they foolishly drop down on all four, with their pig snouts facing Mecca. But even that one thing couldn't truly be considered allah's work, since it's dumb muslims themselves who do that roughening to their own knees.

Posted by: Proud_Kafir7908 at January 1, 2009 9:55 AM

Ever since reading "And the Sea Will Tell" I realized Bugliosi is a self-centred braggart. His many legal victories have gone to his head.

What a lovely prayer by the imam. These morons even speak like they still live in the 7th century. But you know, jihadi violence has nothing to do with religion, nothing to do with islam. The religion of peace has been hijacked by a tiny minority of extremists.....

Let's hope our "leaders" start singing a new song in 2009.

Posted by: ImNoDhimmi at January 1, 2009 10:12 AM

I was shocked that the Charles Manson Prosecutor, and author of "Helter Skelter," could be so stupid. Shocked, I tell you. My esteem for him has almost diminished.

Posted by: darcy

Darcy, I might have overstated my case a bit. Bugliosi makes it clear from the beginning, he is politically liberal and not a Bush supporter. Much of what he writes has factual basis. Like any good prosecutor, he carefully lays out the case that Mr. Bush lied his way into a war with Iraq. Iraq had little proven connection to Al Qaeda or to Osama bin Laden. This to me appears beyond question. What motivated Mr. Bush to target Iraq rather than the larger culprits, Saudi Arabia Pakistans or Iran -- nations that maintained, perhaps still maintain close ties to Al Qaeda -- only Bush himself knows.

It is when Bugliosi belabors the killing of "innocents" that he begins to lose credibility in my mind. The same can be said about any war; Afghanistan, Nazi Germany, imperial Japan. In the case of Germany and Japan, civilians were deliberately targeted, as the civilian population supported the war effort by and large.

U.S. forces however are not targeting civilians in Iraq. Civilians are killed in war.

This is where the left, in my mind, loses credibility in this war for the survival of the west. Just as the left engages in non-stop hand wringing over Gaza, the left fails to identify or recognize the threat to our very survival.

Posted by: Wild Jew at January 1, 2009 11:34 AM

It is easy to call to mind Genesis 16:12 - most surely a prophecy fulfilled. One can believe the Bible by such fulfillment alone.

Posted by: rdt at January 1, 2009 12:19 PM

"Praying to allah (the imaginary) is much less effective than praying to a DVD copy of "2001 - A Space Odyssey." At least the DVD can give you something - a lot of highbrow entertainment."

OMG-this is so funny!! I woke up this morning wondering WHY hasn't islam noticed 2001:A Space Odyssey. The monkeys banging and worshipping the "great-black" monolithic stone is the perfect image of islam.

Must be TOO high-brow for them...

Posted by: lorfalcon at January 1, 2009 2:44 PM

It is when Bugliosi belabors the killing of "innocents" that he begins to lose credibility in my mind.

Posted by: Wild Jew at January 1, 2009 11:34 AM

Wild Jew,
Let us assume that the Iraqis that died in the war were not innocent. Yet, the US forces that died in the war based on lies, were innocent. Young and brave, but also innocent. It is this case that Bugliosi makes against Bush. Point bwing that Bush is responsible for the death of 4000+ US soldiers who died in Traq,thansk to his lies. One may argue that it is the duty of the soldiers to fight wars to protect the nation. This is true, However, the lies of POTUS/Commander-in-chief, to start the war, cannot be condoned. Young and brave American soldiers that died in Iraq war were definitely innocent.

Further, you rightly ask:
What motivated Mr. Bush to target Iraq rather than the larger culprits, Saudi Arabia Pakistans or Iran -- nations that maintained, perhaps still maintain close ties to Al Qaeda -- only Bush himself knows.

Knowledgable people know that Saddam was quite different, even opposite of the wahhabbis in some ways. E.g. Iraq was the most secular muslim state. Iraq was the only muslim country with Shia/Sunni harmony and Iraq was the only real chalange to the corrupt Al-Sabahs of Kuwait and Al-Sauds of Saudi Arabia. Bush Sr. was well in Saudi pockets. With Saudi petro-dollars financieg Bush Jr., this relationship went to a new level, resulting in "Bandar Bush" and free visas to Saudis (resulting in 9/11, as documented by Joel Mobray: http://www.nationalreview.com/mowbray/mowbray100902.asp

Also, following 9/11, Bush Jr. was keen to find and even concoct evidence against Iraq, even lure Iraq into a conflict, as documented by Vincent Bugliosi. But what was Bush's motivation? After Saudi petro-dollars financing Arbusto, Harken Energy and business ties with Carlyle Group., Bush Jr. was eager to pay his wahhabbi masters back. What better pay-back than removing the only threat to Al-Sabahs and Al-Sauds? Note that Gulf Wars started when Al-Sabahs and Al-Sauds were in danger from Saddam; and stopped when Saddam was neutralized. 9/11 provided Bush a perfect excuse to pay his wahhabbi masters back. So what if it took American tax-dollars and American blood? Americans had elected Bush Jr.,POTUS/Commander-in-chief. Bush was well within his authority to expend American resources, lives and blood to repay his wahhabbi masters. All he had to do was to manufacture "eviedence" (some obscure truks) and lie (about WMDs) against Saddam. Given 9/11, Congress and American people were in no mood to question their AWOL, rich, spoilt POTUS/Commander-in-chief, specially when he sold the line "Fight terrorists there so we do not have to fight them here". By then, real terorists (Saudi Arabia and Pakistan) were already Bush's "allies" in the Iraq war, packaged and sold under the catchy name "war on terror".
Remove the layers of lies (Iraq in 9/11, WMDs etc) and cover-ups (blacken pages on Saudi Arabia in 9/11 Commission Report) and what you have is that Bush rid Al-Saud's / Al-Sabah's enemy, using American tax-dollars, blood and lives. Bugliosi has compiled evidence that Bush lied and took America to war an unnecessary against Iraq,under the catchy "war on terror", knowing fully well that Saddam had nothing to do with 9/11. brave lives lost in Iraq war are wasted to repay POTUS's personal debt to the wahhabbis. That was Bush's motivation.
Rest is academic.

Posted by: Alert at January 1, 2009 3:26 PM

They really abuse allah. Every other word is allah. If allah exisited he would turn into a gay or a pig just to rebel agaisnt his abusers.

Posted by: American at January 2, 2009 3:28 AM