Jihad the only solution for Palestine

The Muslim Brotherhood brazenly leaving its signature and plan of action from the Hamas Charter. Now the UK will put more Ikhwan jihadis in positions of power, even in charge of security. It's their repetitive dance of national suicide: Allah Enslave the Queen.

Posted by: Beagle at January 3, 2009 11:56 AM

Isn't multiculturalism wonderful?

Community cohesion in action.

Posted by: pr126 at January 3, 2009 12:04 PM

They're practicing for Kristallnacht.

Posted by: Ummah Gummah at January 3, 2009 12:09 PM

The sad state of denial and complacency leads to such distress and anguish for non Muslims. I suppose these Islamic thugs went about and beat up MSM reporters and studios the story would still be the same of appeasement and cowering to Islam.

If these same Islamic assholes went and attacked politicians, I bet, it will be the same rhetoric by the political elite, by excusing the behaviors of these vicious Mohammedans as an anomaly.

Posted by: savsiv at January 3, 2009 12:10 PM

This is the fruits of England's acceptance of Dhimmitude

Posted by: Yitz at January 3, 2009 12:14 PM

They give the game away when they do this, don't they?

After all, they are threatening along-established community of English Jews. By definition, not Israelis.

But after all, their true target is the Jew, wherever he is.

Posted by: Monty at January 3, 2009 12:20 PM

All of the members of this wilding group bent onh doing harm have to be tracked down, arrested, and tried, and then given very long sentences. This has to be a priority of the police and MI5: a national priority. Not only very long sentences and, ideally, a confiscation of their property, but also an investigation into all those who encourage the kind of attitudes that make this possible: the imams in mosques, the money that comes from rich Arabs into Great Britiain to pay those imams, and build and maintain those mosques. The sellers of inflammatory videocassettes and DVDs. All of them. And the families, too, of the people involved -- make this, and make all similar outrages, the occasion for deporting all those who, while they may not have been immediate participants in this budding group of black-hundreds, offer material and moral support. And start making the legal system, that is the laws on the books, adequate to the real case, the case at hand, the case of the countries of Western Europe, ruled by negligent and incapable and wilfully ignorant elites, now without the proper tools to strip citizenship from those who do not, and cannot, offer loyalty to the Infidel nation-state, its legal and political institutions. Stop it right now, by changing from the policies of appeasement and whistling-in-the-dark to something that makes sense, and not only for the physically-threatend Jews of Golders Green.

Here it is, one more time:

"The large-scale presence of Muslims in the countries of Western Europe has led to a sitatuion that is, for both the indigenous Infidels and for other, but non-Muslim, immmigrants, more unpleasant, expensive, and physically dangerous than it would be without that large-scale presence."

No non-Muslim living in Western Europe today, save for the antisemitic and those suffering from other forms of dementia, including terminal diversititis, can truly disagree with that summing up. And I can continue to post that sentence, again and again, because with each passing day, week, month, its truth becomes more obvious, and more undeniable, to all.

Posted by: Hugh at January 3, 2009 12:22 PM

All of the members of this wilding group bent onh doing harm have to be tracked down, arrested, and tried, and then given very long sentences. This has to be a priority of the police and MI5: a national priority. Not only very long sentences and, ideally, a confiscation of their property, but also an investigation into all those who encourage the kind of attitudes that make this possible: the imams in mosques, the money that comes from rich Arabs into Great Britiain to pay those imams, and build and maintain those mosques. The sellers of inflammatory videocassettes and DVDs. All of them. And the families, too, of the people involved -- make this, and make all similar outrages, the occasion for deporting all those who, while they may not have been immediate participants in this budding group of black-hundreds, offer material and moral support. And start making the legal system, that is the laws on the books, adequate to the real case, the case at hand, the case of the countries of Western Europe, ruled by negligent and incapable and wilfully ignorant elites, now without the proper tools to strip citizenship from those who do not, and cannot, offer loyalty to the Infidel nation-state, its legal and political institutions. Stop it right now, by changing from the policies of appeasement and whistling-in-the-dark to something that makes sense, and not only for the physically-threatend Jews of Golders Green.

Here it is, one more time:

"The large-scale presence of Muslims in the countries of Western Europe has led to a sitatuion that is, for both the indigenous Infidels and for other, but non-Muslim, immmigrants, more unpleasant, expensive, and physically dangerous than it would be without that large-scale presence."

No non-Muslim living in Western Europe today, save for the antisemitic and those suffering from other forms of dementia, including terminal diversititis, can truly disagree with that summing up. And I can continue to post that sentence, again and again, because with each passing day, week, month, its truth becomes more obvious, and more undeniable, to all.

Posted by: Hugh at January 3, 2009 12:22 PM

And I can continue to post that sentence, again and again, because with each passing day, week, month, its truth becomes more obvious, and more undeniable, to all.

Hugh,

But a lot of people will continue to deny it. Accepting the truth requires them to take action. Worse, it means they might have to admit that their deepest beliefs, ones they have lived their lives by, are just plain wrong. Best to close your eyes and pretend it's not real.
To coin a phrase: there is none so blind as he who will not see.

Posted by: PMK at January 3, 2009 12:31 PM

Gee, all this "internal spiritual struggle" sure does seem to require a lot of external violence.

Posted by: Bigshaker at January 3, 2009 12:50 PM

l saw a gaggle of British high and mighty elites, ie , actors, cring the blues about how mean the IDF has been on those poor palis.. l dont usally wathc BBC, but just had to have a peak last night, l did not eat dinner yet, good thing.

Posted by: ZenaWarriorPrincess at January 3, 2009 12:51 PM

"The large-scale presence of Muslims in the countries of Western Europe has led to a situation that is, for both the indigenous Infidels and for other, but non-Muslim, immigrants, more unpleasant, expensive, and physically dangerous than it would be without that large-scale presence." --Hugh

Oh, without doubt. A large-scale Mohammedan presence is ruining the wonderful countries of Western Europe. Just as the large-scale presence of Nazis did in Germany, Austria, Czech, Poland and France.

Islamo-Naziism. One and the Same.

Posted by: darcy at January 3, 2009 12:57 PM

"But after all, their true target is the Jew, wherever he is."
-- from a posting above

Actually, no. Jews are a convenient target, and an easy one -- there are so few of them, after all, and the pathological condition of antisemitism has helped supply willing collaborators among the non-Muslim population. See George Galloway, or Robert Fisk, or Taki Theodorocopulos.

But just as Israel may be seen as the sole target, when it was merely, for several decades, the most obvious and immediate target, so it may seem that Jews are the sole target. But they are not.

It is true that for a while Israel -- given the manic over-coverage and miscoverage given to the war being made on Israel, a war that is without end but is manageable (if the Israelis, and the rest of the West, come to their senses) -- appeared to be the only war by Muslims that mattered. Few outside of India, save for the odd scholar of Indian civilization -- David McCutchion, Koenraad Elst, Francois Gautier -- paid attention to Muslim terrorism in Kashmir or India proper, or the persecution of Hindus in Pakistan and Bangladesh. And even the Taliban took the occasion of its ascendancy to make sure that the handful of Hindus left in Afghanistan were made to wear identifying garb for, as the Taliban sweetly explained, "for their own safety."

But there are much bigger fish to fry now than tiny Israel. The unearned (and unmerited) OPEC trillions (some twelve trillion dollars since 1973 alone), and the immigrant Muslim millions allowed to settle within Western Europe -- there are now about 25 million Muslims - both made it possible for Muslims not merely to dream, but to take real steps to expand beyond the Local or Lesser Jihads (such as those against Israel, and India in Kashmir) and to begin to put into their sights the Infidel nation-states of Western Europe, where Muslims who had been foolishly permitted to live in such numbers in the Bilad al-kufr to begin to challenge, and to threaten, the legal and political institutions, and the foreign and domestic policies, and the physical wellbeing, of the Infidel indigenes, everywhere that the local Muslims, everywhere of course keenly aware of Muslim numbers, and also of the likely reaction of the local Infidel authorities. In some cases, as in Denmark and Italy, the Muslims have badly miscalculated. Let's hope that in Great Britain they have also,or soon will, be seen to have badly miscalculated.

Because this is not, as the excerpt with which this post begins suggests, a war only or even mainly on Jews. It is on all Infidels. The Qur'an, the Hadith, the Sira make this clear. The Hindus are threatened. And Hindus in Great Britain know this, and are increasingly impatient, I should think, with those Hindu members of the elite back in India who have always been so careful to distance themselves from what they, those supercilious more-advanced-than-thou HIndus, regard as the crude, distasteful "communalism" of the BJP, with some fondly assuming that this attitude will establish them, in the minds of others, especially the minds of advanced Westerners, how very advanced they, those Hindu-by-background Indians are. And what a surprise it will be for them when they discover, and quite soon, that the most advanced Westerners, the very people they think of as their soulmates, or mind-mates, have begun to study up on Islam, its doctrine and its practice, and the more they study, the more they find themselves beomcing as alarmed by Islam as the most (supposedly) troglodytic member of the BJP, and not impresssed, not at all, with the refual of those Hindus who refuse to recognize the meaning, and the menace, for India.

And if Jews and Hindus are more easily targetted right now, just look at what happens to Christians wherever they live in Muslim lands. Would you care to be a Christian in Pakistan? In Bangladesh? In Indonesia? Would it be okay for you in Iraq? What about Saudi Arabia? Libya? How about Iran, not the Iran of the Shah, or the Iran of the advanced, relaxed, Frenchified, ancien regime (much about these people can be gleaned from such memoirs as "Daughter of Persia" by a perfect representative of thatancien regime, Sattareh Farman Farmaian)? Would you like to be a Copt in Egypt? An Assyrian in Iraq, now that Saddam Hussein is no longer there to protect you, for good and sufficient reasons of his own? Where might it be okay? In Turkey, advanced, Kemalist, "secular" Turkey -- is that where it would be absolutely fine to be a Christian, say with an Italian priest running the congregation? Where in the Muslim world are non-Muslims truly safe, and if you find such a place, ask yourself what events (say, in the Central Asian stans, the decades of anti-Islamic efforts by the Soviets have, in some cases, created a secular class sufficiently broad and deep to withstand the "return to Islam")?

No, the Muslims rampaging in Golders Green are not Moseleyites limiting their rampages to Jews, though that should of course be sufficient to have the full weight of the state come down on them like not a ton but a thousand tons, of bricks.

Their true target is not Jews, but Jews, Hindus, Christians, Buddhists, atheists, everyone and everything, that is not-Islam, that is outside of Islam, that is not part of, or not completely subservient to, Islam.

Posted by: Hugh at January 3, 2009 1:03 PM

This will be music to the ears of the BNP supporters (clergy, teachers, policemen and women etc), Nazi scums (clergy, teachers, policemen and women) and many of those at the al-bbc. It must also go down very well in the political circles where Israel and Jew are the two dirty words never to be uttered in favourable terms.

Today, the British establishment has all but sold its soul to islam.

Posted by: Hermit at January 3, 2009 1:03 PM

Unfortunately, what's just happened in Antwerp last week where the Jewish neighborhoods were cordoned off to protect the Jews living there by the rioting Muslims; and now this situation in the Jewish neighborhoods of London is just the tip of the iceberg. The Muslims have "found their balls" and are becoming more vocal and more violent outside of the "usual areas" and are blatantly attacking Jews whenever and wherever they can. (This lack of being afraid of being arrested or deported attitude started in Paris and because the French are so weak-kneed the Muslims were making weenie roasts out of cars for nights on end and their toy police and toy armies couldn't do anything about it.) My instincts tell me (to which I expressed to my friends who had voted for Obama) that this is the result of a new American presidential administration that will take over January 20th that will be soft on terrorists; and these terrorists know it, and are using it to their advantage, therefore they are starting their "inauguration parties" early. These riots in Eurabia and Londonistan will soon spread to the USA after January 20th. Either the Jews need to take up arms and learn to protect themselves because I doubt the governments in the countries they live in will; or just make Aliyah and come back "Home" where you rightfully belong. Why bother living where you are not wanted? To prove a point? Who cares! Europe is just a "pit stop" on the way back home!

Posted by: Zebrabees at January 3, 2009 1:03 PM

"If these same Islamic assholes went and attacked politicians, I bet, it will be the same rhetoric by the political elite,..."
posted by: savsiv

Ah but they won't attack the politicians, at least not at this stage of the game, because the politicians (except for a few) are already giving them just about everything they want. In a few decades, when Moslem numbers have grown enough, then it will be the turn of the politicians.

Posted by: ebonystone at January 3, 2009 1:10 PM

Of course rampaging Muslims are idiots and Islam is a great burden to the world, but on a more specific matter related to this I should think anyone with half a brain should immediately grasp the truth of what Hugh posted above respecting Muslim designs. First, the Muslims go after the Jews (wow, never heard this before), then they go after everyone else. That's why everyone else should see Israel in a much larger context than it is often seen. Israel right now is the chief whipping boy of Muslim intentions, but those intentions include taking over all of us. One knows this or should know it. There is no third alternative.

Posted by: Wellington at January 3, 2009 1:32 PM

"First the Saturday people, then the Sunday people."

Posted by: A_Plague_on_Both_Houses at January 3, 2009 1:37 PM

Gee, all this "internal spiritual struggle" sure does seem to require a lot of external violence.

Posted by: Bigshaker at January 3, 2009 12:50 PM

Good one. A real paradox, isn't it? Sarc on

Posted by: darcy at January 3, 2009 1:41 PM

This is one of the many reasons I am a strong believer in the 2nd Amendment. Of course, I live in the country so most of us are armed and would never tolerate this. Although, the use of firearms would only be last resort and total self defense. I suppose multi-culturalism works.

Posted by: eaglecap at January 3, 2009 1:42 PM

I second Hugh's first post(not saying I don't the second but the first concretes how I feel).

These people need to be caught for Incitement to Religious Hatred and put away for 7 years. After all, if they don't then it's clear evidence that this law was brought in for Islam's benefit. Those charged with assault get that sentence added on to the Incitement one.

I am disgusted. I am sickeningly disgusted to see that the peaceful Jewish people who bother no one are to face yet more attacks from Muslims who are causing all the trouble in the first place.
My partner just stated that it's sad to think that Golder's Green and places like Hampstead and Swiss Cottage are going to be places under siege by Muslims.

Today they were marching to Downing Street to protest at Israel defending itself. Alexei(I'm a communist)Sayle was blethering his usual diatribe on the BBC about Israeli murderers blah blah blah.

The more I look on blogs and forums I see people who are changing allegiance to NuLab and Tory and plumbing for Nationalist parties. The only people who will sort out the UK are Nationalist parties. Any other and the UK will face a continue growth of Muslims which will in turn mean more persecution for the peaceful Jews. However, just to add, they will then realise just how their people in Israel feel at being attacked simply for being Jewish. I think we'll see less Jews on protests for Palestine methinks....

Posted by: Richard the Lionheart at January 3, 2009 1:46 PM

First, the Muslims go after the Jews (wow, never heard this before), then they go after everyone else. That's why everyone else should see Israel in a much larger context...

Posted by: Wellington at January 3, 2009 1:32 PM

*

"First the Saturday people, then the Sunday people."

Posted by: A_Plague_on_Both_Houses at January 3, 2009 1:37 PM

Thank you both for reminding me that I am second on the Mohammedans' hit list (Christian).

You're right, Wellington. We are Israel.

Posted by: darcy at January 3, 2009 1:47 PM

Fifteen, that's 15 for Mohammadans, Mohammdans thrown out by staff and diners.

I wish I could have taped that for Youtube.

One waiter, one guy in a chefs hat, one five foot waitress, plus four hungry and pzzed off kufrs, ran all fifteen of these 'tough Islamics' off.

I don't know that I got the kufr numbers right, maybe there were two five foot waitresses.

At any rate, good show kufrs...

Posted by: duh_swami at January 3, 2009 1:54 PM

Hitler borrowed heavily of the Quran, and Hadith when he wrote the Mein Kompf.

Mein Kampf:427 "No persecution can deter Jews from exploiting mankind. Even if you expel a Jew he comes back again after a short time. So to prevent the Jew from this one must take the soil out of his usurious hand, making it illegal for him to own it."

Qur'an 33.26 "Allah made the Jews leave their homes by terrorizing them so that you killed some and made many captive. And He made you inherit their lands, their homes, and their wealth. He gave you a country you had not traversed before."

Mein Kampf:428 "They are God's chastisement. The Jews have only received a thousandth the reward they deserve for the sins they have committed. They sold themselves to the Devil and landed in his domain. They are monsters who torture the beloved people to the point of despair. The Jew will be punished by Heaven."

Qur'an 59.14 "The Jews are devoid of sense. There is a grievous punishment awaiting them. Satan tells them not to believe so they will end up in Hell."

Ishaq:254/Qur'an 2:96 "We will not remove a Jew from the punishment. They know the shameful thing that awaits them."

Qur'an 4.55 "Sufficient for the Jew is the Flaming Fire!" The dark spirit of Islam reports:

Qur'an 33.26 "Allah made the Jews leave their homes by terrorizing them so that you killed some and made many captive. And He made you inherit their lands, their homes, and their wealth. He gave you a country you had not traversed before."

This is a great site to refer to when countering people who say Hitler was Christian, it also helps to explain why Nazi's, and Muslims espouse a lot of the same ideals. It should come as no suprise that those Friday genocide fests often lead to violence.

http://www.prophetofdoom.net/Mein_Kampf_Hitler_and_Muhammad_Find_Religion.Islam

Posted by: ethoman at January 3, 2009 2:02 PM

PMK wrote: But a lot of people will continue to deny it. Accepting the truth requires them to take action. Worse, it means they might have to admit that their deepest beliefs, ones they have lived their lives by, are just plain wrong. Best to close your eyes and pretend it's not real.

Exactly. All their lives, do-gooder liberals have believed that all people and cultures are alike. Hence, all can live together in peace and harmony. To abandon this belief would mean that the entire political philososphy by which they have lived, is not just wrong but dangerouosly wrong. In the recent video by Tom Trento, one sees that loathsome Muslim woman shout at Jews, that Jews belonged in ovens. Even this will not open the do-gooder liberal's eyes. They will never abandon their belief, even if England becomes Islamic, and Jews and Hindus are killed on the streets. They will die with it, and take us along with them.

Posted by: DP111 at January 3, 2009 2:30 PM

"Muslims rampaging through Jewish neighborhood in London"

What ever happend to the courage and commitment that motivated Britains to fight for their civilization against Hitler in the second world war? Today's generation seems absolutely determined on national suicide, so what happened in the last 60 years? to change the character of a people so radically?

For that matter, what happened to all Western countries? Could it be that our educastional systems have actually raised up a generation that feels ashamed of Western civilization, while glorifying the barbarism of Islamic, and other lessr civilizations?

There has to be an answer, but what is it?

Posted by: rational at January 3, 2009 3:04 PM

darcy: Yes, indeed, anyone who loves freedom, democracy and the rule of law should realize, as you do, that Israel's fight is every such person's fight. Long live Israel.

Posted by: Wellington at January 3, 2009 3:09 PM

Oh, come, come people. You must have it wrong. This is what I found on the BBC website:

In a statement, police said: "From approximately 1800 [GMT], a small minority of people at the front of the barrier line made repeated attempts to break through the barriers.

"This small number threw sticks and other missiles at officers, before pulling apart the barrier line throwing them at officers.

"Stewards and others within the crowd made continued attempts to prevent this course of action on the part of the small minority and keep the mood calm."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/7809656.stm

Just a small minority! See? The statement mentions the word SMALL three times. It's the religion of peace, after all. Peace-loving Muslims, together with the Stop the War Coalition and all the lovely actors and singers who are so passionate about peace -- you KNOW it's just a small, SMALL minority causing trouble.

God, help us!

Posted by: RerumNovarum at January 3, 2009 3:11 PM

Notice that there are no reports of arrest by the British police.

Posted by: joeblough at January 3, 2009 4:46 PM

duh swami -

like you, it was *this* part of the article that grabbed me...

"They [the 15 Mohammedan rioters] attempted to gain access to a number of kosher restaurants and Jewish businesses,

"and at one point entered Solly’s restaurant,

"but were thrown out by staff and diners."

Go Juice!

As you say, I'd love to see that little episode on youtube. No security cameras rolling to record it for posterity? No wife or teenage daughter of one of the diners, recording proceedings on her mobile phone video cam?

There's a whole article buried in that one line - 'thrown out by staff and diners'.

Come on, Jewish Chronicle: give us a proper write-up with all the details. Interviews with all the persons responsible for this summary routing of the wannabe-jihadist thugs.

Posted by: dumbledoresarmy at January 3, 2009 5:10 PM

It's these two things that really make my skin crawl:

1) 'thrown out by staff and diners'

2) No arrests were made

Jews never get any help from law enforcement. Believe me. I was denied an order of protection against the child molester who stalked me because he hadn't actually raped or killed me yet. We're on our own. Again/still (hey, they're the same word in Italian).

We need arms, but we need cameras too. The world needs to see this.

Sending this article, along with the one about the Belgian Jewish neighborhoods, to my friends and family who have been telling me that I overexaggerate the Islamic threat has been the most unsatisfying "I told you so" of my life. I looooove being right, but not this time.

The silence of the American MSM is deafening.

BTW, don't forget, people:

1) The interview with the Hams leader's Christian convert son is on Fox tonight at 9, and

2) Buy your virtual movie ticket to see Qassam this Sunday: http://israelwecare.weebly.com/

Funds go to one of your choice of five Sderot charities.

Posted by: jdamn at January 3, 2009 5:39 PM

Horrendous, I took the tube up to Golders Green in early December to buy some chabada bread before Hanukkah. The neighbourhood was very peaceful, the high street even had Christmas lights on display!

Posted by: Hard Rain at January 3, 2009 7:30 PM

Is there..are there, any males in the UK with a swinging appendage? I am so sick of these stories and it is obvious why muslims and their leftist buddies get away with it..and also why the police allow it. Nobody will stand up to them..how pathetic.

Posted by: pismopal at January 3, 2009 7:49 PM

Not just Great Britain but Denmark, Belgium as well. Last week, a immgrant to Denmark attacked Israelis at the Odense Mall and in Antwerp, immigrants tried to attack the Jewish neighborhoods there as well. Sadly, this is the future of Europe and from what I have heard many young Europeans are fleeing to Australia, canada, US to escape this nightmare

Posted by: Douglaz at January 3, 2009 9:57 PM

I always said that Islam is and was not compatible with human and social development. Islam is a retarding factor in the development of the humban species. It seeks to destroy everything we have created and to replace it with silly medieval stone age like beliefs. I have always said that a 'Muslim' owes his allegiance NOT to the country that he is a resident of but to the Umaah or to Saudi Arabia. In other words, the Muslim is a traitor towards his own country. He will fight for his 'brethren' in Afghanistan, Iraq, Palestine, Kashmir, Chechnya, Xianjiang, Somalia, e.t.c. before he fights for the British Army or for his country. Muslims should be deported back to Saudi Arabia, Indonesia, Pakistan so that they would never have to make a choice between their 'gloriously false' religion and the country that they are living in. Everybody in Britian MUST sign petitions calling for Muslims to be deported back to Muslim countries.

Posted by: Christopher at January 4, 2009 1:41 AM

I would gladly sign a petition, Christopher. They definitely don`t wish to integrate and be friends with us, and who knows when they will turn round and attack us. They are already trying to get the upper hand.You are so right, it is such a mediaevil ideology. It seems, especially in muslim countries they live in the "Dark Ages". There is no advancement.

Posted by: Carole at January 4, 2009 4:51 AM

I have been saying exactly the same since day one Christopher. I believe that the only way of stopping Islamisation of the West is to deport all Muslims to Islamic Countries.
People have already discussed on here as well as myself that why on earth is the West taking Somalians(Muslims) into their countries when they are completely ignoring Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Oman etc etc who are their next door neighbours and worse still Muslim countries too?
Those Muslims born in the UK/West are not British or ever will be(unless they renounce Islam) and should be deported to their ancestor's homes.

I would welcome a petition in the UK to remove all Muslims and immediately cut off all links to Saudi Arabia and Pakistan. I'd also end all international flights to Muslim countries and stop all travel of Muslims into the UK.

However the above won't happen. The left and the liberals always ad arms and legs to the argument i.e. "Will you do the same with Blacks, Hindus and Sikhs too"?
It's always the same, the left are completely ignorant to the facts before them but then most of these people have Muslim friends and went to school with them so do not see them as the enemy. They are unaware that even though their friends may not be radicals, they will reproduce and create them.

I don't know what the answer is. All I know is that as Islam grows so does the threat of all out war and bloodshed. How true will be Powell's words when conflict eventually happens. What will the liberal left be thinking about when they realise that this could all have been averted by removing Islam from the UK?

The only problem of starting a petition up against Islam in the UK would mean that the person responsible for doing it would immediately be arrested, imprisoned and imprisoned for seven years for Incitement to Religious and Racial Hatred. That's a lot of time to spend locked up for wanting to protect your country from Islamisation. Then there's also the fact that when you do come out, there'll be no chance of escaping Islamisation as you'll have a criminal record and not be allowed to emigrate to Oz, Canada or the USofA.

I've been saying it all along but it will come to a head and there will be violence, much of it actually as Islam grows.

Posted by: Richard the Lionheart at January 4, 2009 8:04 AM

We need candidates for high offices with sensible policies, not just petitions. In the UK they need to repeal the "racism" law. That's the first step. You guys need freedom of speech. How you've had a functioning society for this long without it is beyond me. The fruits of the Left's policies in Britain are blossoming and showing themselves to the weeds choking the system that they are.

As for the "Hindus, Sikhs, and blacks" argument, not that I think you're disagreeing with me, because we've discussed this, but it's a false argument. I would imagine that Sikhs in particular would be very strong nationalists.

I was thinking about Josephine's account of the Toronto protest and how everyone in the thread was saying "ths is not the Toronto I know." Well, Toronto is one of the most cosmopolitan ("multicultural") cities in the world. They have always had people from all over in numbers which rival the native population. The fact that the presence of Muslims and just Muslims makes it seem so suddenly scary proves that multiculturalism is not a bad thing in and of itself. It's just Muslims. They don't assimilate and then they rile up the radical leftists.

I will continue to defend multiculturalism. It's not a question of culture. It's a question of loyalty. My mother is a FOB Italian and a dedicated patriot. Her loyalty was always with America. I love Italy and I embrace my Italian heritage, but I'm incredibly patriotic. Jews have always been very patriotic (radical Marxist Jews from the 50s and 60s aside, and I'm NOT defending them) but have always had our own culture. We fight in every war and we pledge allegiance our flag and mean it. My FOB Italian uncle and my Jewish father both fought in Vietnam before the draft because they love America and it would never occur to them to not "do what [they could] do for [their] country."

I also consider many of the British colonies and their tradition to be part of British culture. When I think of British food, I think of Indian food. I'm a vegetarian, though. But the colonies enriched British culture just like Hindus, Sikhs, and Christian and animist Africans. They are not a problem. You're lucky to have them, Hindus ad Sikhs in particular.

Posted by: jdamn at January 4, 2009 3:53 PM

Could not the British Hindus, Sikhs and Jews together kickstart the UK campaign to reduce the Mohammedan presence? Many of the avowed apostates from Islam would probably join such a campaign - they are currently forced to live in hiding because they *do not know* which of the Mohammedans they might meet is another slack practitioner who couldn't care less, and which is a potential hitman bent on carrying out the sharia prescription of Death For Apostasy.

I understand that each of these groups has suffered violent and repeated threats and attacks, by Mohammedans, upon their persons, places of worship, and public religious practice (e.g. Hindu processions). I also understand that black non-Muslim Brits have also suffered from Muslim racism.

Christian priests need to understand that the beatings and vandalism some of them have already suffered from Mohammedans are similar to the beatings and vandalism the Nazis meted out to Jews in the early 1930s; these violent acts are harbingers of much worse things to come; symptoms of an aggressively supremacist geopolitical ideology. Why should such injuries be passively suffered, and allowed to grow worse and worse, if they can be stopped by a resolute enforcing of non-Muslim law in a country that is still majority non-Muslim? Would the Christians in Britain passively stand by if Thuggees or Satanists were regularly kidnapping people and sacrificing them? Would they not be shouting to high heaven for the enforcement of British law?

Begin by campaigning hard for a total ban on any further Mohammedan immigration (reprioritise - let limited refugee intake be reserved for genuine non-Muslim refugees from Jihad)

then get to work on a process of deportation, beginning with the obvious bad apples (illegal immigrants, and those who rape, rob, incite or plot jihad, practise or openly and explicitly support/ defend/ acquiesce in the practice of polygyny forced marriages, underage marriage, 'honor' murders, FGM, etc) and then proceeding outward as one finds that the more bad apples one removes, the more pop up to take their places. All mosques associated with 'bad apples' get shut down permanently.

Ban Islamic schools - this, by the way, was the explicit and strongly-worded advice of the apostate, Ayaan Hirsi Ali.

Thoughts: David Davies, of Monmouth in Wales, has said some sensible things recently. Perhaps the revolution should begin in Wales.

Posted by: dumbledoresarmy at January 4, 2009 10:19 PM

What I hear in this forum is a very overt form of pathetic racism and bigotry over and over. Why dont you people educate yourselves about Islam? It is a peaceful and decent religion. You merely take a few incidents, out of context and try and paint all islamic men with one brush. You cant even understand they may have a justitified grudge..wouldnt you be upset if your kids and folks were blown to pieces daily from bombs in their own homeland? You resent these people so much because they actually have the GALL to defend themselves from constant attack and waves of violence. The European way is to lay down and die? These people have a RIGHT to be pissed off! So tell somebody who cares, you weak-kneed dogs!!

Posted by: britsarebashingislam at January 7, 2009 2:44 PM

'britsarebashing...'

are you a Muslim? The fact that you conclude your posting with a typically Muslim insult to infidels - 'you weak-kneed dogs!' is very revealing.

If you are a Muslim, then...the taqiyya won't cut any ice here.

We happen to know that Mohammed said 'War is deception'. We know about all the jihad verses in the Quran. We know about Mohammed's disgraceful warlording mass-murdering raping career and we despise him. We also know that everything he did - EVERYTHING! even the horrible stuff - is supposed to be fine, and suitable for copying, because he did it. We know about those two Jewish girls he grabbed, and raped, right after his merry band of sand pirates had wrecked their communities and killed all their menfolk. And we know what Islam says about Jews and what you're supposed to do to them; so we're backing the Jews. The land of Israel was Jewish land before any Arab Muslim imperialists got hold of it.

If so be you're *not* a Muslim: scroll back up to the top of this website right now and click where it says 'Islam 101'. The information there provided is accurate. It rests on a solid foundation of scholarship. Read and learn.

Anyone who has read 'britsarebashing' should know about the thoroughly vicious Jew-hatred that is hard-wired into Islam's sacred texts - Quran, Sira, Hadith - and reinforced by Islam's theologians past and present, and that has been put into horrid practice in every part of the Islamosphere throughout every stage of its history, read Andrew Bostom, 'Legacy of Islamic Antisemitism'. Read Bat Yeor, 'The Dhimmi: Jews and Christians Under Islam'.

Muslims are taught, in the mosque, to HATE Jews - it's not because of Israel, they've been hating Jews for 1300 years. At times and in places where the Jews were a tiny, struggling, powerless minority, with *no* rights, the Muslims STILL hated them like poison and treated them like dirt; they could be kicked, spat on, booted into the gutter, robbed, raped, kidnapped and held to ransom...and this persistent abuse was inflicted on them by Muslims right up until the 1950s - after which nearly all the Jews from Muslim lands were violently driven out with nothing but the clothes they stood up in.

If you're not a Muslim, perhaps you should know that in Muslim countries like Egypt and Morocco, the very worst insult one Muslim can hurl at another Muslim, or for that matter, at their recalcitrant donkey or camel, is to call them Yahood, 'Jew' - and this fact was documented a good century BEFORE the restoration of the Jewish state of Israel.

Guess what, britsarebashing - the Jews of Israel had had enough. They took up arms, seized the moment, and claimed their YHWH-given human right to live not as wretched oppressed dhimmis under sneering Muslim overlords, but as free people on their own ancestral land...with the right of self-defence, which they are exercising against the genocidal Hamas jihadists. And it's that - the sight of Jews with weapons, fighting back against Jihad, refusing to cower like dhimmi slaves - which is driving the Arab Muslims absolutely hysterical with rage.

Anyone who should happen across this thread now or on the future should reflect upon the following two facts.

Fact no. 1: NO Jews are rampaging through Muslim neighbourhoods in London or Paris or New York, seizing people and beating them up and smashing windows and barging into shops and restaurants. No Jews have thrown firebombs at mosques in Europe or the Americas or Australia. No Jewish leader is calling for Jews worldwide to attack Muslim children all over the world.

Fact no 2: MUSLIMS just went rampaging through a Jewish neighbourhood in London. Synagogues and Jewish people have been attacked in various parts of the world. Muslim religious leaders have been recorded calling for Muslims WORLDWIDE to attack Jews, anywhere and everywhere.

Those two facts tell me all I need to know about which side I support in this fight.

I support the Jews against the Global Jihad.

Posted by: dumbledoresarmy at January 8, 2009 3:00 AM