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We found this humble missive from Austria in our Hate Mail Bag this morning:
Do you recommend the violence of Israel on Palestinian people? I am Christ (aren´t you?!), I hate all kinds of fascism and I am against islamic extremisms. But this violence and this MURDER ON INNOCENT CHILDREN is not the solution. Shame on you! Shame on Israel! Where is your conscience? Where is your respect towards religion? You demand absolute press freedom, but you mean: the freedom of insulting religion and people. You torpedo peaceful efforts and you agitate. You are godless Americans.
Alrighty, then. Let's go point-by-point:
Do you recommend the violence of Israel on Palestinian people? I am Christ (aren´t you?!)
Huh. Does "Christ" work for Reuters? Language barriers aside (as "Christ" is the adjective for "Christian" in the German language), just to restate the obvious: A sovereign state has the right to defend itself. Israel is a sovereign state; Hamas' regime in Gaza is not. And if it were, Hamas' conduct -- persistent, random rocket fire, genocidal agitation, and the destruction of another state as its raison d'être -- would not be tolerated from any other sovereign state in existence. Why, then, is Hamas so special that the rules don't apply?
I hate all kinds of fascism and I am against islamic extremisms.
That's nice. Good for you.
But this violence and this MURDER ON INNOCENT CHILDREN is not the solution.
Surely, you've also sent a strongly-worded letter to Hamas honcho Mahmoud Zahar, who today said that Israelis "have legitimized the killing of their children by killing our children. They have legitimized the killing of their people all over the world by killing our people."
A few questions: First, are Israeli children, in your mind, also innocent? More importantly, what of Hamas' long-standing habit of storing its weapons in and launching attacks from mosques and other civilian areas? It has even boasted about using human shields and hidden its operatives in hospitals. Thus, Hamas -- an illegitimate regime -- is both deliberately targeting Israeli civilians, and deliberately acting to maximize Gaza's civilian suffering and casualties in a war of its own making. Who, then, is playing fast and loose with human life?
Shame on you! Shame on Israel! Where is your conscience? Where is your respect towards religion? Where is your respect towards religion? You demand absolute press freedom, but you mean: the freedom of insulting religion and people. You torpedo peaceful efforts and you agitate.
So "respect" requires never, ever criticizing or giving offense, intentionally or not, to "religion," by which you likely mean one religion in particular. Freedom of speech without the freedom to offend is hollow and self-defeating in that it creates a climate of fear for the consequences of speaking "freely."
You are godless Americans.
Say, now, that's kind of offensive. Where would that fall in your vision of limitations on freedom of speech and the press?
Posted by Marisol at January 5, 2009 10:55 AM
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a brooklyn mosque is running a radio advertisement on major nyc radio station proclaiming that islam is peace and tislam respects all people. they ask all who have questions about islam to call 718 479 3345
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at January 5, 2009 11:09 AM
Do you recommend the violence of Israel on Palestinian people?
Yes, but more. I believe in proportionality. Some Katyushas launched randomly into Gaza over the next few years should do it.
(Oh, was that not the answer you were looking for?)
Posted by: Beagle at January 5, 2009 11:14 AM
In modern warfare, it is simply impossible to avoid civilian casualties. The question, the only question, to ask is: are there attempts to avoid civilian casualties, and what are those attempts?
In the case of Gaza, the Israelis have been dropping leaflets and even making phone calls, to every phone they can, both to cell phones (oh yes, in "impoverished Gaza" lots of people have cellphones, and apparently televisions and DVD players, because the more fanatical Muslims have taken to attacking those DVD stores -- no, those "impoverished" Gazans lead lives far beyond the dreams of any other among the hundreds of millions of real refugees) and to regular phones. They have again and again warned civilians away. And Hamas, of course, has been busily trying to persuade civilians to act as human shields as the PLO and Hezbollah, before it, have done, always counting on Israel's scrupulosity and, as always, storing rockets and other war materiel in mosques, and schools, and hospitals, and right smack in apartment buildings, and if Israel were never to attack these, then the strategy would work, and Hamas could go gaily about its business, and its business is not that of trying to avoid civilian casualties among the Israelis of Sderot, and Ashkelon, and Ashdod, and now even of Beersheva (and tomorrow, of Tel Aviv and Jerusalem), but rather to cause civilian casualties, to "strike terror" -- as the Qur'an says Muslims should -- into the hearts of Unbelievers.
In the middle of World War II, at Wellesley College, one of many similar rallies, devoted to the theme of "Why We Fight" was held. One who took part was a refugee from both the Bolsheviks and the Nazis--Vladimir Nabokov. A lapidary statement from his intervention has been preserved for posterity: "Morally, democracy is invincible. Physically, that side will win which has the better guns."
Morally, Israel is invincible. Physically, that side will win which has the better guns, and tanks, and planes, and of course, has the better soldiers.
It is important to insure that Israel keeps a great edge in its equipment, because it is outnumbered by the Arabs 60 to one, and by Musliims 300 to one. Israel has no natural resources to speak of, and the twelve trillion dollars that have gone, through no effort on their part, to the Arab and Muslim oil states -- not to mention the tens of billions idiotically added to this in Infidel aid to various Muslim states and peoples that do not have that oil. As for the "better soldiers," from the 1948-49 war, of 600,000 Jews (many survivors of the death camps, some sent right into battle just after getting off boats), and the Six-Day War of 1967, when Nasser was tightening the noose and Israel undid it just in time and attacked the would-be hangmen and their hysterical mob of supporters, and the Yom Kippur War of 1973, when a surprise attack on that most solemn of Jewish holidays, coordinated by both Egypt and Syria, went very badly at first but the tide was turned, and turned spectacularly, by such feats as that of the Seventh Brigade in the Golan, where 100 Israeli tanks, facing five Syrian tank divisions, with 1,400 tanks, in 3 1/2 days, fighting night and day, managed to destroy the Syrian enemy -- not the largest tank battle in history, for that was on the Russian front during World War II, but surely the most impressive tank battle in military history. No, when it comes to soldiers, and to the scrupulosity of the measures they take to avoid civilian casualties, Israel not only should not be subject to criticism, but lavished with praise, for no army on earth has taken the kind of measures the Israelis routinely take, and of course are taking, as always, in Gaza today.
When the real story -- as opposed to that of the fantastic propaganda put out by the Arabs, and aided and abetted by so many stupid or ignorant or sinister people in the Western media, the same ones who have been more and more openly siding with the Arabs and revealing their by-now ill-concealed hostility to Israel -- come out, some media heads should roll. But will they?
Posted by: Hugh at January 5, 2009 11:24 AM
I get tired of hearing Muslim whining about "international law" and "civilian" casualties. When Muslims target civilians and violate the very international laws that are designed to protect civilians and minimize civilian casualties.Mosques and homes turn into military targets when weapons are stored in them and rockets are fired from them. If you do not want a Mosque bombed stop storing bombs and weapons and fighters in them. If you really want civilians protected stop hiding among them and wear uniforms so that you as a combatant can be separated from the civilians.Israel by its actions is sending an important message to Muslims.You Muslims recognize no law and target infidel civilians so your "civilians" are not going to be safe. No mosque or home that is used for combat is safe. This will eventually have a deterrent effect on those Muslims who support terror if their own lives and property are at risk. Imagine the effect if that any time a rocket is fired from a Mosque or home that building is bombed within seconds.
Posted by: Roxane at January 5, 2009 11:50 AM
You are godless Americans.-
Oh. I don't know any other country in the World which tolerates and accommodates so many religions as the US. Only Islamists that do not want to live with us here or any other place. We are not Godless, there is no such thing, but God loving nation.
Posted by: MusHuntCowboy at January 5, 2009 12:10 PM
The idiot that wrote the piece of hate-mail aforementioned sure is a dhimmi suffering from Stockholm syndrome. His pathetic effort to defend his muslim overlords, whose non-existing superiority he nevertheless acknowledges by making himself subdued, is proof of that.
Posted by: Proud_Kafir7908 at January 5, 2009 12:14 PM
Did you people know that there are NO Muslim countries in the top 40 IQ countries?
And you see this e-mail from the Mohammedan just shows you exactly why.
Pitiful.
Posted by: darcy at January 5, 2009 12:24 PM
By 'godless' Americans, 'Christ' likely means 'Allahless' Americans. Got lost in the translation, since he thinks God is Allah, even though Infidel Americans don't.
He may not be German at all. He may be a Mohammedan, and the Christ he's referring to could well be the Islamic Christ, who's supposed to convert us all to Islam on judgment day.
Posted by: Infidel Pride at January 5, 2009 12:29 PM
You demand absolute press freedom, but you mean: the freedom of insulting religion and people.I am with you, Infidel Pride. I doubt this guy is a Christ. Posted by: AnneCrockett
at January 5, 2009 12:35 PM
Oh, IP - the guy is definitely a Mohammedan.
17th century poet Ben Jonson said, "Language most defines a man. Speak, that I may see thee."
And I definitely see a: Mohammedan.
P.S. That's a favorite quotation of mine.
Posted by: darcy at January 5, 2009 12:46 PM
An Austrian myself, I'll bet you the writer of this lovely e-mail was a member of the Austrian Muslim community. Perhaps he wasn't appeased enough last when state-run television ran a prime time evening program devoted to the (non-)integration of Muslims into Austrian society. It was 4 hours of non-stop telling the Austrian non-Muslim public that everything is just dandy, there are no problems whatsoever, and if there are problems, they have nothing to do with religion and everything with "culture". Read a full report soon on "Gates of Vienna".
Posted by: Eurodhimmi at January 5, 2009 12:48 PM
Excuse me, 17th century English poet.
Who is enormously ashamed of his country right now.
Posted by: darcy at January 5, 2009 12:55 PM
Bloody brilliant, Robert!
Posted by: SwedishWiking at January 5, 2009 12:58 PM
From article: Say, now, that's kind of offensive. Where would that fall in your vision of limitations on freedom of speech and the press?
No matter who this guy is, I doubt he understands that question...
Posted by: duh_swami at January 5, 2009 12:58 PM
Godless Americans...
There are only two types of Godless Americans...
Atheists and Mohammadans.
One worships no god, the other a false god...
Posted by: duh_swami at January 5, 2009 1:05 PM
Did you people know that there are NO Muslim countries in the top 40 IQ countries? - Posted by darcy.
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I didn't know that, but I guess that's something we can typically expect from those whose brains are conditioned to utter and unquestioning submission to the will of allah (that imaginary, twisted bunch of donkey dung.)
I can only imagine how low those countries rank when it comes to human rights, women's rights and prevention of child-abuse. That is even something that, not too long ago, made a muslim acknowledge that fact by writing one of those rare essays where he actually criticized his fellow co-religionists (and for the right reasons):
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/021429.php
Posted by: Proud_Kafir7908 at January 5, 2009 1:06 PM
"a brooklyn mosque is running a radio advertisement on major nyc radio station proclaiming that islam is peace and tislam respects all people. they ask all who have questions about islam to call 718 479 3345"
I called the number and after several single rings and transfers I got a heavily accented woman. She answered, "hello? Who is there?"
I asked "what is it with Jews and Muslims? Why can't they get along? She told me to ask the Jews.
Very informative indeed.
No deception, just deflection as expected.
at January 5, 2009 1:23 PM
I just saw an interview on FOX News with a "Palestinian" legislator, a woman, named Hasan (I didn't catch her surname). She continued to refer to Israel as the "occupying power" in Gaza--I suppose she never got the memo that Israel had pulled out of Gaza entirely in 2005.
Although she said that she was not a member of Hamas, she said that trying to get rid of Hamas was ridiculous, like trying to "eradicate the Republican Party"--so now we are supposed to accord these genocidal thugs the same status as a major American political party? Apparently so.
She harped on how Hamas had just thrown a "few hand made rockets" at Israel, and this response was "disproportionate". Suddenly, the elder statesmen of Hamas are spoken of in terms more appropriate to naughty high school kids pranking their stodgy neighbor.
Finally, she said that Israel was "literally getting away with murder". No mention of Israel warning Gazans of upcoming bombings (despite the fact that this so often warns Hamas of their actions), no mentions of the years of rockets launched at Israel, including one just today that destroyed a kindergarten, and would have resulted in massive deaths of children if Israel had not cancelled school for the day in the southern part of the country for this very reason.
And no mention, especially, that the very raison d'etre of Hamas is the destruction of Israel. Funny, I don't remember anything similar with the Republican Party.
Posted by: gravenimage at January 5, 2009 1:25 PM
gravenimage
Hanan Ashrawi
I was screaming "or Nazi Party" at the TV but John Scott couldn't hear me.
Posted by: Beagle at January 5, 2009 1:31 PM
Shame on you! Shame on Israel! Where is your conscience? Where is your respect towards religion? Where is your respect towards religion? You demand absolute press freedom, but you mean: the freedom of insulting religion and people. You torpedo peaceful efforts and you agitate.
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With all due respect, but this wasn't written by a native Austrian. The phrase "insulting religion" which really means "insulting islam", since they insult and attack all true religions all the time, is a dead give-away that this was indeed written by a mohamedan interloper currently - hopefully only temporarily - residing in Austria.
at January 5, 2009 1:40 PM
Shame on you! Shame on Israel! Where is your conscience? Where is your respect towards religion? Where is your respect towards religion? You demand absolute press freedom, but you mean: the freedom of insulting religion and people. You torpedo peaceful efforts and you agitate.
---
With all due respect, but this wasn't written by a native Austrian. The phrase "insulting religion" which really means "insulting islam", since they insult and attack all true religions all the time, is a dead give-away that this was indeed written by a mohamedan interloper currently - hopefully only temporarily - residing in Austria.
at January 5, 2009 1:41 PM
The guy may have said "I am Christ". I take that to be taquiyya, since they consider Christ a "prophet", thus trying to steal him away from Christians while at the same time diminishing his importance.
Posted by: Ummah Gummah at January 5, 2009 1:44 PM
I see people on this site are a bunch of hypocrites who support Isreals war crimes against the palestinians yet you go on about the threat of islamic terrorism in other countries well isreal is a terrorist state which is terrorizing and genociding palestinian children in Gaza.
This site is biased it only condemes isalmic terrorism but at the same time supports acts of terror done by isreal.
at January 5, 2009 2:02 PM
and you are the biggest hypocrite who supports a terrorist organization ;
people like you deserve to die in terrorist attacks
at January 5, 2009 2:11 PM
Shame on you! Shame on Israel! Where is your conscience? Where is your respect towards religion?
Funny, didn't notice your comments when the mo-hee-mah-dins butchered all those people in India a few weeks back.
And what was it you were saying when all those people were being blown to pieces by the suicide murderers?
I see people on this site are a bunch of hypocrites who support Isreals war crimes against the palestinians yet you go on about the threat of islamic terrorism in other countries well isreal is a terrorist state which is terrorizing and genociding palestinian children in Gaza.
This site is biased it only condemes isalmic terrorism but at the same time supports acts of terror done by isreal.
Posted by: Maria at January 5, 2009 2:02 PM
Been called a whole lot worse and for much
better reasons than what you offer.
Say, what do you tell those parents of the islamic children whose heads are cut to pieces by the shiites on the streets of londonstan? Or do you smile at the blood rite and nod politely?
Okay, I'm open to suggestion.
Tell me, when was the last time the Isralies hijacked an airplane; took over a school and killed children like in Beslan in the name of their religon; or bombed a bus filled with people; or blew up a train like in London or in Spain.
When was the last time you heard of a bunch of "juice" taking over a mosque and butchering a pregnant mother or an immam as was done to them in India.
Go ahead -- cite the places and the dates and do show your references.
This is one "hypocrite" who is waiting for your reply.
Posted by: witness at January 5, 2009 2:17 PM
Hate Mailer wrote: "Do you recommend the violence of Israel on Palestinian people?"
Israel has a right to defend itself against Hamas and their suicide bombers and rocket attacks for some 8 years now, so the action being taken by Israel is long overdue.
Go Israel!!! Defeat and destroy Hamas!!
Posted by: champ at January 5, 2009 2:19 PM
Maria -- you must be a Muslim, right? Thought so.
Posted by: champ at January 5, 2009 2:21 PM
Maria, can I hurl rocks into your backyard for months on end without a reaction from you?
Do Hamas provide bomb shelters for their women and children? Now there's a silly question...
Posted by: eloivsdiablo at January 5, 2009 2:24 PM
May Israel send Hamas back to the Hell from where they originated:
Hells
Ambassadors
Mass-Murdering
Allah
Slaves
Yep, that pretty much describes H-A-M-A-S. May you rot in hell for your evil crimes against not only your own people, but against the Jews, your own cousins.
Remember, Maria, Hamas was established with one purpose in mind: Destroy Israel & the Jews
Sick!!!
Posted by: champ at January 5, 2009 2:34 PM
eloivsdiablo , rocks nothing.
Maria, how about I stand on my back porch and shoot my Ultra-mag into your house everyday?
That is what Israel has put up with for years.
Israel has the right to exist.
That is the main problem, your kind doesn't want anyone but moslems to exist anywhere
at January 5, 2009 2:42 PM
From Austria? Well, I can understand his position. If we hadn't bombed the Axis powers so much in World War II, Hitler would still be in power. Too bad for this guy the Mainstream Media hadn't been able to propagandize our way out of victory at that time.
Posted by: jewdog at January 5, 2009 2:51 PM
"well isreal is a terrorist state which is terrorizing and genociding palestinian children in Gaza."
Well, Israel is a state which provides medical succor and treatment to EVERYONE in the neighborhood, regardless of their religious or political affilliations. Israeli doctors and nurses treat Palestinians who cross the border for that treatment. Why? Because it's the right thing to do.
If Israel were...God, I hate it when some ignoramus pastes an "ing" suffix to a noun in an attempt to make it a verb...
If Israel were "genociding" Palestinian children, they would start with the Palestinian families living in Israel.
And, Maria--genocide begins with adults. The whole point of genocide is to prevent the birth of any more of a given people. In order to do this effectively, genocide would begin with the adult breeding stock, and work its way down to the children.
Now, sit down. Have something cool to drink, and ponder this: even a minimal use of punctuation will render your posts more readable.
at January 5, 2009 3:04 PM
Have watched the reports on the telli, and as they were filming in Gaza the bomb hit a building a block or so away, and a large black cloud reachs skyward. As the video continued, the street was showing active with people, mostly men. But, along with them were kids, around 30 or so, and no adults were with them. They were running to the explosion, not away.
And not one, again not one, was warning them of danger. No attempt to halt and control them, or to try and steer them from the danger. The children were running to the bombing area, and some were laughing, some smiling. Not one adult cared. Right on Fox news, from today.
And this "person" who claims we are supporting the deaths of these people, only points at Israel.
Posted by: Islofob IS-1 at January 5, 2009 3:28 PM
Posted by: Pégay
and you are the biggest hypocrite who supports a terrorist organization ;
people like you deserve to die in terrorist attacks
What terrorist attack do you mean i deserve to die in? a IDF terrorist attack or a islamic terrorist Attack ? I do not support any terror organization you lying sack of shit and at the same time i will not support IDf baby killers they are no better then islamic terrorist who blow up innocent civilians
at January 5, 2009 4:02 PM
What terrorist attack do you mean i deserve to die in? a IDF terrorist attack or a islamic terrorist Attack ? I do not support any terror organization you lying sack of shit and at the same time i will not support IDf baby killers they are no better then islamic terrorist who blow up innocent civilians
Posted by: Maria at January 5, 2009 4:02 PM
I can't speak for anyone else about who or who does not deserve to die but that is between you and others. All I ever knew from my life experiences was that the orders were thus and so and ... well, you get the idea. The morality issue was a non-starter in the first place but I digress.
Anyway, I have noted that you either are ignoring my original question or in your righteous wrath haven't seen it so ... here it is again:
Been called a whole lot worse and for much
better reasons than what you offer.Say, what do you tell those parents of the islamic children whose heads are cut to pieces by the shiites on the streets of londonstan? Or do you smile at the blood rite and nod politely?
Okay, I'm open to suggestion.
Tell me, when was the last time the Isralies hijacked an airplane; took over a school and killed children like in Beslan in the name of their religon; or bombed a bus filled with people; or blew up a train like in London or in Spain.
When was the last time you heard of a bunch of "juice" taking over a mosque and butchering a pregnant mother or an immam as was done to them in India.
Go ahead -- cite the places and the dates and do show your references.
This is one "hypocrite" who is waiting for your reply.
Posted by: witness at January 5, 2009 2:17 PM
You'll understand if I don't hold my breath while I wait for your reasoned response and cite your excellent references.
Posted by: witness at January 5, 2009 4:10 PM
"You demand absolute press freedom, but you mean: the freedom of insulting religion and people. You torpedo peaceful efforts and you agitate. You are godless Americans.?
Yes, that's exactly what we mean by freedom. Without the right to express an opinion -- even an insulting opinion -- about religion, there is no freedom. Your own Islamic idea of freedom is the freedom of Muslems to silence anyone who doesn't share your own high opinion of Islam and its screwball prophet, while Muslims are free to insult and persecute those of other faiths that won't buy into the Islamic fairytale.
Every thinking person should shudder at the thought of a world diminated by Islam, every moral, God-fearing person, should be appaled by the primitive morality Islam would impose on the rest of humanity.
at January 5, 2009 4:10 PM
What terrorist attack do you mean i deserve to die in? a IDF terrorist attack or a islamic terrorist Attack ? I do not support any terror organization you lying sack of shit and at the same time i will not support IDf baby killers they are no better then islamic terrorist who blow up innocent civilians
yes little coward pacifists like you deserve to feel the pain of a terrorist attack;
I don't care how many innocents japaneses and germans were killed during the ww2 , i don't care how many children died ; but i'm glad they were utterly crushed and humiliated.
Freedom has a cost, think about this you little coward.
at January 5, 2009 4:19 PM
Posted by: witness
Say, what do you tell those parents of the islamic children whose heads are cut to pieces by the shiites on the streets of londonstan? Or do you smile at the blood rite and nod politely?
My Response to that
what are you talking about i live in London and i have never seen this happen and its called London not Londonstan get it right the only blood spilling i am seeing now is the spilling of Palestinian childrens done by Isreal and the only thing i see in London is people protesting against this crime thankGod theres people out there who are speaking out against this injustice.
Posted by: witness
Tell me, when was the last time the Isralies hijacked an airplane; took over a school and killed children like in Beslan in the name of their religon; or bombed a bus filled with people; or blew up a train like in London or in Spain.
My responce to that
are you blind cant you see what isrealis are doing now they have killed palestinian children and civilians in Gaza also remeber the king david hotel wasnt that a act of terror?
at January 5, 2009 4:21 PM
Maria,
Israel left Gaza back in 2005 within days of Israel's leaving rockets began being fired at civilians in Israel. About 3000 rockets were fired from Gaza into Israel in 2008. Firing rockets is an act of war, firing them at civilians is a war crime.Israel's first responsibility is to protect its civilians its up to the government of Hamas to protect the people of Gaza.Since Hamas engaged in an act of war and committed war crimes they not Israel are responsible for all deaths in both Israel and Gaza. Hamas has also continued to target civilians in Israel when stopping the rocket attacks could lead to a ceasefire. Hamas also endangers "civilians" in Gaza by hiding among them.
As to whose a hypocrite. Palestinians celebrated when people died on 9/11 and anytime people are killed in Israel.Many also support the rocket attacks on Israel. Now they are angry that people don't care about their "suffering".I had to laugh when the leader of Hamas whined that Obama did not make a statement about Gaza but spoke out when Muslims terrorists killed in Mumbai. The difference is that India (like Israel) is a democracy and a ally.While Palestinians chose to elect terrorists. Palestinians also have a history of siding with the enemies of the US, first Saddam and now Iran.Obama is a Chicago politician who will not waste political capital on the likes of Hamas and the people of Gaza.
Posted by: Roxane at January 5, 2009 4:22 PM
posted by pegay
yes little coward pacifists like you deserve to feel the pain of a terrorist attack;
I don't care how many innocents japaneses and germans were killed during the ww2 , i don't care how many children died ; but i'm glad they were utterly crushed and humiliated.
Freedom has a cost, think about this you little coward
my responce to that
in that logic maybe you deserve to feel the pain of a IDF terrorist droping a bomb on your home and killing your family then you would feel the Pain of the palestinians.
you say you dont care how many innocents died in japan or germany that makes you no better then a terrorist because a suicide bomber thinks the same way as you do as a suicide bomber doest care either how many Innocents are killed to get there freedom see how you think same way as a terrorist
Posted by: Maria at January 5, 2009 4:32 PM
Maria -- does Hamas have any responsibility in the "Pain of the palestinians"? Why aren't you confronting Hamas with you anger? Why are you here?
Posted by: champ at January 5, 2009 4:34 PM
Maria, how do you feel about the rocket attack on the Israeli kindergarten today? Luckily it had been evacuated because of the constant threat of Palestinian missles.
I guess those it was those peace loving horribly misconstrued jokesters in Hamas that must have lobbed it. Those Israeli's simply can't take a joke.
Posted by: Captain America at January 5, 2009 4:38 PM
People keep talking about "innocent civilian" casualties in Gaza.
The only difference between a Hamas terrorist and an "innocent civilian" is whether you are talking about before or after he was wounded.
at January 5, 2009 4:47 PM
Roxane its not right what hamas did by firing rockets into isreal and they should stop but it was isreal who broke the truce in the first place and after that hamas fired rockets which killed 4 isrealis which is bad and it shouldnt have happened but then Isreal went and killed 500 palestinians lots of those palestinians where children.
Palestinians celebrated 911 becuase America is supporting isreal and given weapons to isreal which has oppressed the palestinians for years with American support can you blame them for celebrating?
Isreal and India are not democracys you have to be joking india still has the cast system and oppresses other minoritys for example christians muslims and sikhs and isreal is illegally occupying the land of palestinians call that democracy?
Posted by: Maria at January 5, 2009 4:50 PM
His or her arguments are so one sided and so narrow in focus against Israel that it seems almost fruitless to address.
This person would have us ignore the ever growing fanaticism that is Hamas, or even Hezbollah. Would this person have us ignore what was the fanaticism of the Nazis'? The truth is that it is the fanatics that are in control of what happens in Islam. The commenter clearly reflects an ignorance of Islam. As the writer says he is against Islamic extremism and yet he refuses to allow for the other necessary remedies that have failed for decades when it come to Hamas and its supporters. He would have been in the Chamberlain camp as so many others are today when it comes to understanding the determination of the fanatics in Islam. In fairness to Chamberlain he learned quickly after displaying that piece of paper that the Third Reich laid on him and was absolutely worthless.
Posted by: Mackie at January 5, 2009 4:55 PM
"...isreal is illegally occupying the land of palestinians call that democracy?"
Posted by: Maria
That comment is completely false and you know it.
Posted by: champ at January 5, 2009 4:55 PM
Maria is a deluded Muslim playing historical revisionist a scant week after the fact. It was Hamas that signaled the world it would not renew the truce; Israel acted accordingly.
Posted by: Cornelius at January 5, 2009 4:55 PM
Posted by: Captain America
Maria, how do you feel about the rocket attack on the Israeli kindergarten today? Luckily it had been evacuated because of the constant threat of Palestinian missles.
I feel glad that no children where hurt in that rocket attack on the kindergarten and hamas should stop firing the rockets
now tell me how you feel about the family of 7 palestinians that where killed today when the idf droped a bomb on there home?
at January 5, 2009 5:01 PM
Posted by: champ
"...isreal is illegally occupying the land of palestinians call that democracy?"
Posted by: Maria
That comment is completely false and you know it.
no its not faulse its a fact isreal is illegally occupying palestinians land and the UN says it to
at January 5, 2009 5:05 PM
Maria,
I absolutely blame them for celebrating.I consider the celebrations by Palestinians when people were burned alive on 9/11 despicable. I also consider it both racist and Islamophobic to excuse these celebrations as if Palestinians can be held to a lesser standard.
The reason there are fewer deaths in Israel is that Israel has built bomb shelters to protect its people. Ask yourself why hasn't Hamas built shelters for its people?There is also the fact that Hamas hides among civilians in Gaza which is a war crime because it increases civilian casualties.Hamas leaders have bragged about using women and children as human shields. That practice guarantees more Gaza civilian deaths. There's also the fact that rockets are fired on a daily basis into Israel which is an act of war and a war crime.The firing of the rockets makes a normal life in southern Israel impossible. Hamas can end the attacks in Gaza by stopping all firing of rockets and surrendering without conditions. That is if Hamas really cares about the innocent "civilians" in Gaza.
Posted by: Roxane at January 5, 2009 5:10 PM
Posted by Maria:
"now tell me how you feel about the family of 7 palestinians that where killed today when the idf droped a bomb on there home?'
Do you stop to ask yourself why the bomb was dropped? Is it perhaps because Hamas hides out amongst civilians, stores it weapons amongst civilians, and fires its weapons in and about the home of civilians?
Please, don't play games of moral equivacation. There is none here. Hamas exposes innocents (yes Palestinian children) to the risk of attack. This speaks volumes of how much Hamas values the life of children. BTW Maria, how do you like those darling pictures of Palestinian children wrapped Hama regelia with replica M-16s and/or suicide vests. Such an evil culture of death. Do you support this?
at January 5, 2009 5:11 PM
Posted by Maria:
"now tell me how you feel about the family of 7 palestinians that where killed today when the idf droped a bomb on there home?'
Do you stop to ask yourself why the bomb was dropped? Is it perhaps because Hamas hides out amongst civilians, stores it weapons amongst civilians, and fires its weapons in and about the home of civilians?
Please, don't play games of moral equivacation. There is none here. Hamas exposes innocents (yes Palestinian children) to the risk of attack. This speaks volumes of how much Hamas values the life of children. BTW Maria, how do you like those darling pictures of Palestinian children wrapped in Hamas regelia with replica M-16s and/or suicide vests. Such an evil culture of death. Do you support this?
at January 5, 2009 5:12 PM
Maria, why do you continue in a religion where your god hates you?
The texts of islam tells us that hell is full of women, simply because the displeased their man in some way. Allah also tells men that you are a tilth, and they can do with you as they please.
How does that make you feel?
at January 5, 2009 5:18 PM
I see people on this site are a bunch of hypocrites who support Isreals war crimes against the palestinians yet you go on about the threat of islamic terrorism in other countries well isreal is a terrorist state which is terrorizing and genociding palestinian children in Gaza.
This site is biased it only condemes isalmic terrorism but at the same time supports acts of terror done by isreal.
Posted by: Maria at January 5, 2009 2:02 PM
You're an idiot. A total and complete deluded brainwashed Mohammedan idiot. You can't even spell!
BRAVO ISRAEL! DEMOLISH THE ISLAMO-NAZI TERRORIST BARBARIANS!
P.S. You don't deserve the name "Maria."
Posted by: darcy at January 5, 2009 5:19 PM
you say you dont care how many innocents died in japan or germany that makes you no better then a terrorist because a suicide bomber thinks the same way as you do as a suicide bomber doest care either how many Innocents are killed to get there freedom see how you think same way as a terrorist
What a clown you are. Germans and japaneses are now living in peace with everyone and Hitler was stopped.
So yes it was worth destroying these countries
Do suicide bombers want to live in peace with everyone ? Do they want freedom for everyone ?
at January 5, 2009 5:26 PM
Posted by: Captain America
Do you stop to ask yourself why the bomb was dropped? Is it perhaps because Hamas hides out amongst civilians, stores it weapons amongst civilians, and fires its weapons in and about the home of civilians?
Please, don't play games of moral equivacation. There is none here. Hamas exposes innocents (yes Palestinian children) to the risk of attack. This speaks volumes of how much Hamas values the life of children. BTW Maria, how do you like those darling pictures of Palestinian children wrapped in Hamas regelia with replica M-16s and/or suicide vests. Such an evil culture of death. Do you support this?
That was not the home of hamas it was a home of a innocent palestinian family mostly kids. so Isreal is allowed to kill women and kids becasue of hamas? the hamas leader was killed so why is isreal still continuing to bomb innocent civilians.
its not good how the palestinian are wearing hamas uniforms but after this more palestinians will support hamas now thanks to isreali attrocities isreal is creating more support for hamas from the palestinians
Posted by: Maria at January 5, 2009 5:27 PM
"...and the UN says it to"
Posted by: Maria
LMAO! The UN? If that is your source for information, then that explains a lot. Ha Ha Ha!!
Remember, in 1967, during the Six-Day War, Israel had no choice but to defend itself against Arafat and it's Palestinian terrorist organization, Fatah, so give us all a break; assuming, of course, that this is the "illegal occupation" that you are referring to. Please don't elaborate, we know what you're about: Lying.
Posted by: champ at January 5, 2009 5:29 PM
Maria, why do you continue in a religion where your god hates you?
The texts of islam tells us that hell is full of women, simply because the displeased their man in some way. Allah also tells men that you are a tilth, and they can do with you as they please.
How does that make you feel?
Posted by: interestinconundrum at January 5, 2009 5:18 PM
False prophet Mo said that ALL women go to Hell. He SAW them "hanging by their breasts" on his "visit!" LOL! Hey Maria - how does that make you feel! Your false prophet said you're going to Hell - because you weren't "grateful" to your male Oppressors.
Idiot! Brainwashed Mohammedan female idiot.
Posted by: darcy at January 5, 2009 5:29 PM
Posted by Maria:
"That was not the home of hamas it was a home of a innocent palestinian family mostly kids. so Isreal is allowed to kill women and kids becasue of hamas? the hamas leader was killed so why is isreal still continuing to bomb innocent civilians.
its not good how the palestinian are wearing hamas uniforms but after this more palestinians will support hamas now thanks to isreali attrocities isreal is creating more support for hamas from the palestinians "
As to your first point, please cite your authority for the proposition that innocents were killed. I will gladly read it.
As to your second point, you don't answer the question. I specifically asked you about Palestinian children being dressed like militants, do you support this?
at January 5, 2009 5:30 PM
GO ISRAEL! DEMOLISH THE ISLAMIC BARBARIANS!
Posted by: darcy
I second that!!!!!! Go Israel!!!!
Posted by: champ at January 5, 2009 5:32 PM
Posted by: darcy
Hey "Maria" - there is no "allah." You worship a pagan moon deity that DOESN'T EXIST!
Islam is not a "religion." It's a political ideology like Naziism. GO ISRAEL! DEMOLISH THE ISLAMIC BARBARIANS!
you braindead moron you dont know what my religion
is look at how pathetic you are cheering on isreal to commit more genocide are baby palestinians barbarians?
at January 5, 2009 5:35 PM
Maria: sadly you are a member of a death cult that is not able to think rationally. There is no concept of empathy or compassion for anyone you can't tightly and egoistically identify with -- no room in that tight little indoctrinated mind at all. Islam renders people stupid and that's one of the reasons it's going to collapse.
Posted by: jewcat at January 5, 2009 5:41 PM
Posted by: Captain America
As to your first point, please cite your authority for the proposition that innocents were killed. I will gladly read it.
my responce
they where innocent because they where children
Posted by: Captain America
As to your second point, you don't answer the question. I specifically asked you about Palestinian children being dressed like militants, do you support this?
I did reply i told you that i dont agree that palestinian children are being dressed in hamas uniforms i do not support this but after what isreal has done in gaza more palestinians will go to hamas now isreal has done nothing to get rid of hamas all its done is make more palestinians turn to hamas unfortanetly
Posted by: Maria at January 5, 2009 5:42 PM
GO ISRAEL! DEMOLISH THE ISLAMIC BARBARIANS!
Posted by: darcy
I second that!!!!!! Go Israel!!!!
Posted by: champ at January 5, 2009 5:32 PM
And Ditto.
As in 1967, ISRAEL'S WINNING!
Hey mariastan - how come your Jew-Hating pagan moon deity keeps letting the Jews win? LOL!
Posted by: darcy at January 5, 2009 5:43 PM
Go darcy! Go Israel!
Darcy is right, Maria, and everything she just stated is true -- sadly. Allah is not worth the time of day, and I'm afraid you've been brainwashed; so swallow your pride and get the hell out! The hell out of Islam, that is. It's a waistland for dummies.
Posted by: champ at January 5, 2009 5:44 PM
Merriam-Webster defines "Genocide" as "the deliberate and systematic destruction of a racial, political, or cultural group"
So Maria proposes that Israel, by defending itself from repeated Hamas rocket attackes, is committing the genocide of all Palestinians. Hmmm...that logic is faulty insofar as Israel is not bombing the West Bank. However, if it is to suggest that Israel is committing the genocide of Hamas, that would seem more logical.
On the issue of genocide, who uttered the following quote:
QUOTE:
Tabari VIII:130 The Messenger said during his final illness, 'Two religions cannot coexist in the Arabian Peninsula.' Umar investigated the matter, then sent to the Jews, saying: 'Allah has given permission for you to be expelled; for I have received word that the Prophet said that two religions cannot coexist in Arabia..
Any guesses? Come on..I'll give you a hint..the name of the person that uttered this begins with M.
Posted by: Captain America
at January 5, 2009 5:45 PM
posted by darcy
Brainwashed Islamic female Barbarian "mariastan." You don't deserve the name "Maria."
hateful facist like you dont deserve to have been born
Posted by: Maria at January 5, 2009 5:45 PM
"wasteland"...my bad
Posted by: champ at January 5, 2009 5:46 PM
Post by Maria:
"my responce
they where innocent because they where children"
I don't disagree that children are innocents. However, if were drink myself into a stupor and load my childern into a car and proceed to drive over a cliff, who is to blame for the death of the children?
If I take my shotgun and proceed to fire it at my neigbhor's house on regular basis and one day my neigbhor responds in kind and kills one of my children who live me, who is at fault for killing my child?
Posted by: Captain America at January 5, 2009 5:50 PM
Go darcy! Go Israel!
Darcy is right, Maria, and everything she just stated is true -- sadly. Allah is not worth the time of day, and I'm afraid you've been brainwashed; so swallow your pride and get the hell out! The hell out of Islam, that is. It's a wasteland for dummies.
Posted by: champ at January 5, 2009 5:44 PM
Copy THAT!
"Allah" is a pagan idol, mariastan - DOESN'T EXIST!
You've been brainwashed, female Mohammedan. Wearing your black tent today so male Mohammedans won't throw acid on you? How many females do you know who have been Honor-Murdered? You know, Islamic Daughter-Slaughter?
I used to feel such sympathy for you downtrodden female Muzlims. Basically, I don't anymore. You're pathetic. Female suicide bombers - Good God. You're pathetic in your black tents and stupid scarves. Nobody gives a damn about your frickin' hair!
Posted by: darcy at January 5, 2009 5:51 PM
Neighbor ..typos
Posted by: Captain America at January 5, 2009 5:52 PM
Maria, darcy is doing you a favor by being honest with you, so you would be wise to listen to her. Honesty is hard to come by Islamoland, but it isn't in short supply here. Thank God.
Posted by: champ at January 5, 2009 6:00 PM
Posted by:dumb darcy
P.S. Let us know what Hell is like, mariastan!
hell is very hot make sure you take plenty of ice with you when you go there
Posted by: Maria at January 5, 2009 6:00 PM
Posted by: Captain America
I don't disagree that children are innocents. However, if were drink myself into a stupor and load my childern into a car and proceed to drive over a cliff, who is to blame for the death of the children?
the parents are to blame
If I take my shotgun and proceed to fire it at my neigbhor's house on regular basis and one day my neigbhor responds in kind and kills one of my children who live me, who is at fault for killing my child?
i guess its your fault but it was isreal who started this to begin with they started it when they went and forced out palestinians from there homes
at January 5, 2009 6:07 PM
" I am Christ (aren´t you?!) "
Sorry, but I'm not. I may be a follower of Christ but I am not Christ. I am Christian. Christ is the son of God. He is divine. I am not divine. Who made you God? If you are divine then you must have the power to stop the killing. So what's stopping you?
"But this violence and this MURDER ON INNOCENT CHILDREN is not the solution."
Did you tell the leaders of Hamas? THEY are the ones murdering innocents, with random missile attacks and suicide bombers.
"You are godless Americans."
That's odd, considering the criticism we get from Europeans and other "enlightened" people who look down on almost all church-going Americans as "fundamentalists".
Posted by: PMK at January 5, 2009 6:16 PM
Posted by: Dumb darcy
Mass-Murdering Maria:
Your false prophet says YOU'RE going to Hell for being female!
My God is Jesus, the ONLY true God. I WON'T be seeing Hell, thank you!
YOU need to take the ice, you revolting Satanic female Mohammedan! Enjoy yourself in the Smokehouse with your evil FALSE prophet with his entrails hanging out!
GO ISRAEL! KEEP DEMOLISHING THE ISLAMO-NAZIS LIKE mariastan!
the only mass murderer is you as you are mass murdering your braincells theres no point in even talking to you your just a braindead fool frothing at the mouth your hate just go and play in a busy road
at January 5, 2009 6:17 PM
the only blood spilling i am seeing now is the spilling of Palestinian childrens done by Isreal and the only thing i see ...
Well, there you have it; you see only what you want to see with your eyes wide shut.
Posted by: witness at January 5, 2009 6:20 PM
Maria, I would like to direct your attention to another headline entitled: "Hamas: We'll kill Jewish children anywhere", it can be found here:
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/024252.php#comments
Give Hamas your best shot by using your condemning statements on them. Come on, I dare you.
Posted by: champ at January 5, 2009 6:21 PM
Posted by Maria:
"i guess its your fault but it was isreal who started this to begin with they started it when they went and forced out palestinians from there homes"
Maria, you really should read up on history. Israel did not force out Palestinian's as you purport. In fact Israelis are also Palestinians in a broad historical sense as they have lived in the region for quite sometime.
Here is a quote from that bastion of unbiased thought (Wikipedia)
On 29 November 1947, the United Nations General Assembly, with a two-thirds majority international vote, passed the United Nations Partition Plan for Palestine (United Nations General Assembly Resolution 181), a plan to resolve the Arab-Jewish conflict by partitioning the territory into separate Jewish and Arab states, with the Greater Jerusalem area (encompassing Bethlehem) coming under international control. Jewish leaders (including the Jewish Agency), accepted their portion of the plan, while Palestinian Arab leaders rejected it and refused to negotiate. Neighboring Arab and Muslim states also rejected the partition plan....Following the 1948 Arab-Israeli War, the 1949 Armistice Agreements between Israel and neighboring Arab states eliminated Palestine as a distinct territory. With the establishment of Israel, the remaining lands were divided amongst Egypt, Syria and Jordan. The Arab governments at this point refused to set up a State of Palestine.
The last sentence is interesting, is it not?
Posted by: Captain America at January 5, 2009 6:21 PM
what this Saudi says is also interesting
"When, in the early 1930s, we were offered 80 percent of Palestine, while the Jews were offered 20 percent, we rejected the offer. In the late 1940s, we were offered 49 percent of Palestine, and the Jews 51 percent, and we rejected that [offer]," al-Sudairi wrote.
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/128750
Posted by: Péguy at January 5, 2009 6:26 PM
Posted by: Captain America
The Arab governments at this point refused to set up a State of Palestine.
The last sentence is interesting, is it not?
Captian America why did arab goverments refuse to set up a state of palestine?
at January 5, 2009 6:29 PM
Post by Maria:
"Captian America why did arab goverments refuse to set up a state of palestine?"
Me thinks that Egypt, Syria and Jordan did not want to give up newly acquired territory. Otherwise, check with Egypt, Syria and Jordan.
at January 5, 2009 6:30 PM
How ironic this hate letter writer tends to forget that in Muslim countries that their media goes all out to show disrespect to the faiths of Jews and Christians.
Posted by: bigcatgirl13106 at January 5, 2009 6:31 PM
"Otherwise, check with Egypt, Syria and Jordan."
Posted by: Captain America
LOL, my stomach aches from laughing over that one. That was good!
Maria, garage in, garbage out. Learn the facts.
Posted by: champ at January 5, 2009 6:38 PM
Most people don't realize that Gaza has two borders. Yes, TWO BORDERS. One is with Egypt and the other is with Israel. So why don't the Palestinians complain that Egypt has its borders closed. Why don't they shell Egypt also? Because the shelling has nothing to do with getting goods and services into Gaza. The Palestinians' goal is to destroy Israel -- no matter what!
They're Jew-Haters, ever since Mo the false prophet. They just want to get the Jews, end of story. That's why they're Islamo-Nazis.
NO SYMPATHY FOR JEW-HATERS!
Posted by: darcy at January 5, 2009 6:53 PM
hey mario! you're gettin' smacked around in here with logic and facts!keep on trollin' fat lil' piggy! you're very entertaining!
Posted by: picket at January 5, 2009 7:11 PM
Maria,
Surround yourself with killers, and you can expect to be killed.
If you don't want Israel to kill Hamas, then start killing Hamas yourselves.
If you don't want Israel to bomb Hamas near you, don't let Hamas move in near you.
If you can't stop Hamas from moving in next to you, then move away from them, and give Israel their address.
I noticed that you seemed quite concerned about U.S. behavior during World War II, saying:
you say you dont care how many innocents died in japan or germany that makes you no better then a terrorist because a suicide bomber thinks the same way as you do as a suicide bomber doest care either how many Innocents are killed to get there freedom see how you think same way as a terrorist
War is about destroying the enemy's capacity and will to fight. In total warfare, that means killing the enemy and destroying anything that supports or comforts them, the factories that make their weapons, the taxpayers that support their government, even their families. Hamas obviously considers the war against Israel as a total war. But, from the relatively low death tolls in Gaza, any living civilian in Gaza should recognize that Israel does not consider it total war.
The argument that the United States was too hard on its World War II enemies has to be one of the silliest ideas ever discussed seriously among adults. When war reaches that kind of level, no one cares about being "better than" the enemy or about sorting moderates from fanatics, or "collateral damage"; they just want to be more effective at killing, and win.
Your attitude suggests you think Israel should just give up and submit to continuous bombardment, just as many Muslims believe West should just give up and submit to Islam. Neither will happen. A more likely scenario is that a new generation of Israelis and Americans youth will grow up comparing Muslim actions with Muslim words, and conclude that the World War II generation had the right idea when it came to dealing effectively with an enemy.
at January 5, 2009 7:18 PM
Where is your respect towards religion? You demand absolute press freedom, but you mean: the freedom of insulting religion..
It is obvious that the writer is a Muslim.
I knew that Muslims were going to be deeply troubled in the West with western concepts of freedom. Their culture just cannot understand why a religion can be criticised or made fun of.
For a time, for reasons of cultural sensitivity, Islam was given a free pass. But that time is ending. Islam is going to be not just criticised, but made fun of, and even lampooned. This lampooning is going to be vicious - think Monty Python, Private eye, Black adder etc. There may even be cartoons of Mohammed and Aisha! The more Muslims are offended, the more it will excite the cartoonists to go even further, for that is simply the nature of their trade.
All this would never have happened if Muslims had not come here in large numbers, and our idiot political elite allowed them in. If Muslims wish that their young are not tainted and influenced with what is coming, they should leave the West. They can then have their respect, and we wont bother with their quaint customs and culture.
Posted by: DP111 at January 5, 2009 7:25 PM
Looks like nasty troll "maraistan" is gone!
GOOD RIDDANCE you little Barbarian Creep. Lots of Pork be upon you.
And keep on winning, Israel! I couldn't care less about "fakestinians." YOU BROUGHT IT ON YOURSELVES!
Posted by: darcy at January 5, 2009 7:38 PM
Many have trained the children to kill and admire those who do. Check out this link
RalphInfidel has it right. It's a generational struggle and they're ahead of us right now but our children will be learning the hard way. It's a tough lesson and most Americans are in denial. I think I speak for most that we do not want the conflict but it is being forced upon us. Jihad had been a flea that you could snap off but hopefully those in control will realize that it will continue to flourish and become emboldened right down on Main Street.
Why would women even want to be involved in this religion? And if it wasn't for oil chances are they would have been stepped on a long time ago and could just kill each other.
Posted by: Nobama at January 5, 2009 7:51 PM
It's funny how there is a double standard for Israel. Any other country that was under attack would have the right to defend itself. Obviously, the response needs to be measured and targeted toward removing the military threat of the neighbor and not a gratuitous form of violence. However, there is no indication Israel is attacking civilians or acting in excess. If anything, Israel is reducing its military effectiveness through its advance communication designed to limit civilian impact. The good news is, the media seem to be presenting a more balanced view of the conflict this time around, even as the sympathetic protests grow louder.
Posted by: Dave at January 5, 2009 8:23 PM
DP111...try this for a laugh...Near bottom of page...Copper kid has other similar cartoon series...
http://islam-watch.org/articles.htm
Sex with Slave-girl: How Prophet Muhammad Cheated Wife Hafsa to Sleep with Maria? - Copper Kid [30 Nov, 2008]
Posted by: duh_swami at January 5, 2009 8:56 PM
darcy...I just noticed that Mohammads sex slave was named Maria...
Don't you think that's just a little tooo coincidental?
Posted by: duh_swami at January 5, 2009 9:08 PM
"I just noticed that Mohammads sex slave was named Maria..."
All Muslim females are Mohammad's sex slaves -- literally and figuratively.
Posted by: DenverRodeo at January 5, 2009 9:21 PM
No, "Maria", YOU are the fascist.
Islamonazi pig.
Posted by: iwojimateddybear at January 5, 2009 9:51 PM
Beagle wrote:
gravenimage
Hanan Ashrawi
I was screaming "or Nazi Party" at the TV but John Scott couldn't hear me.
....................
Thank you for the correct name, Beagle. That was pretty much my reaction, too!
Posted by: gravenimage at January 5, 2009 10:09 PM
If anyone tells you Israel is killing innocent children, show them this:---HELLO MARIA!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTGbP55HGi8
Posted by: Mackie at January 5, 2009 10:39 PM
Folks, you can't argue with Maria because she's going all the way back to 1948 when the Israelis "forced" the poor muslim savages out of their homes and stole their land. She obviously learned the "Palestinian" revisionist version of history and has been inculcated with lies and propaganda all her life. She appears oblivious to the U.N.'s role in the creation of the Jewish state and seems to think that the Jews just waltzed in out of nowhere and forcibly appropriated a country that belonged to muslims. She believes that the Palestinian "refugees" are the rightful owners of Israel and if they want to launch salvos at the "occupiers" of their own country, that is their right.
Maria is also unaware of the fact that Jews occupied the Palestinian territories for centuries before islam even existed and have maintained a continuous presence in Palestine for thousands of years. Maria is an ignorant, brainwashed muslim or an ignorant useful idiot. Her brain has one functional circuit; the others atrophied from lack of use. She is programmed for tunnel vision, irrationality, and the islamic mantra so nothing else registers. She is a lost cause.
Posted by: Susanp at January 5, 2009 10:44 PM
"a brooklyn mosque is running a radio advertisement on major nyc radio station proclaiming that islam is peace and tislam respects all people. they ask all who have questions about islam to call 718 479 3345"
Spam Party! You're all invited!
at January 5, 2009 10:50 PM
maria you really are missing a brain, but then you are a brain washed muslim eh. when terrorists hammas hide their weaons in civilians homes, schools, hospitals, then hammas does not even care for their own children. if someone was throwing rockets on your house and or property,are you going to call the cops to stop them>? what will the cops do? they will reason at first, and next if nothing stops them, they will use force. Maria get a brain and some stiff coffee, l know alcholo is off limits,but you need to calm down and use some reason and logic. there are no other countries on this earth that would have the patience of Israel to put up with years of rocket attacks, in fact l think they were stupid to wait so long, l would of attacked after the first or secound rocket and if all fails, do a Dresden on them. peace through victory!
Posted by: ZenaWarriorPrincess at January 5, 2009 11:02 PM
Why is it so hard to understand that Hamas not only used rockets but mainly used women and children as shields?.
Are Palestinians all blind and deaf?Don't they see the game that their own leaders are playing with them.
Sarkozy got it right but it did not prevent thousands of Muslims to march in the street of Paris
to support Hamas.
at January 5, 2009 11:05 PM
March 31, 1977, the Dutch newspaper Trouw published an interview with Palestine Liberation Organization executive committee member Zahir Muhsein. Here's what he said:
"The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct "Palestinian people" to oppose Zionism.
For tactical reasons, Jordan, which is a sovereign state with defined borders, cannot raise claims to Haifa and Jaffa, while as a Palestinian, I can undoubtedly demand Haifa, Jaffa, Beer-Sheva and Jerusalem. However, the moment we reclaim our right to all of Palestine, we will not wait even a minute to unite Palestine and Jordan."
Maria the Arab governments never sought a Palestinian state because it would mean accepting Israel.
at January 6, 2009 12:05 AM
Peoples (to paraphrase the forgotten Naseem)
Next time, don't feed trolls in the first place.
Posted by: Infidel Pride at January 6, 2009 12:11 AM
If you launch rockets at a foreign country from the backyard of your home where your children live, you turn your home into a legitimate military target. If you then get a return missile shot from the IDF that kills your children, who exactly is responsible for their deaths? Do you see Americans taking their kids to military bases in Iraq? Of course not. Only someone with deluded ideals of letting your children die in the name of jihad would do that.
If you hate freedom of speech so much go register an account on LGF.
Posted by: Crusty at January 6, 2009 12:31 AM
I see people on this site are a bunch of hypocrites who support Isreals war crimes against the palestinians yet you go on about the threat of islamic terrorism in other countries well isreal is a terrorist state which is terrorizing and genociding palestinian children in Gaza.
This site is biased it only condemes isalmic terrorism but at the same time supports acts of terror done by isreal.
Posted by: Maria at January 5, 2009 2:02 PM
--
No. We're the EXACT OPPOSITE of hypocrites. You are an islamo-NAZI. We are islamo-SAVANTS.
You know EXACTLY what i am talking about, taqiyya kitman islamo-biatch.
Posted by: Ummah Gummah at January 6, 2009 1:36 AM
"... Where is your respect towards religion? You demand absolute press freedom, but you mean: the freedom of insulting religion and people. You torpedo peaceful efforts and you agitate. You are godless Americans."
What are they talking about?
muslims are flushing islam down the toilette.
Posted by: American at January 6, 2009 3:41 AM
Man, Maria really owned this thread. I've never seen so many people get upset by stupidity. She took you completely off topic.
You know, idiots are best ignored....
This thread reminded me of the frothing that used to happen when Naseen would say something people didn't like.
Posted by: payingattention at January 6, 2009 6:07 AM
Did you people know that there are NO Muslim countries in the top 40 IQ countries? ~ darcy
Check out the list of muslim winners of Nobel prizes in the hard sciences as compared to other people, like Jews. Backs up your point.
no its not faulse its a fact isreal is illegally occupying palestinians land and the UN says it to ~ maria
Uh-oh. The UN says it, too. I'm sold. Not!
That was not the home of hamas it was a home of a innocent palestinian family mostly kids. ~ maria
And you know ths how? Because some Hamas-hole said so?
its not good how the palestinian are wearing hamas uniforms but after this more palestinians will support hamas now thanks to isreali attrocities isreal is creating more support for hamas from the palestinians ~ maria
Just means more Fakestinean deaths. Why are you complaining when Hamas-holes shout 'Death to Isreal' or 'We will die fighting the Jews', and then they die at the hands of the Jews. Shouldn't Hamas-holes be thanking Israel for giving them their 72 raisins?
RalphInfidel has it right. It's a generational struggle and they're ahead of us right now but our children will be learning the hard way. It's a tough lesson and most Americans are in denial. I think I speak for most that we do not want the conflict but it is being forced upon us. ~ Nobama
The real denial in the West arises from the idea that religious wars are a thing of the past. Yet a religious war is being waged against us now, whether we like it or not.
Posted by: Rick at January 6, 2009 6:28 AM
darcy...I just noticed that Mohammad's sex slave was named Maria...
Don't you think that's just a little too coincidental?
Posted by: duh_swami at January 5, 2009 9:08 PM
swami, as I'm sure you know Mo had MANY sex slaves. Maria was the Coptic Christian. How terrible for her. When I think of the Islamo-Nazo Mo violating her, I want to puke.
BTW, I'm so glad my phrase "Islamo-Nazi(s)" has caught on. I see JW's using it all over the place! It's just the truth. Islamo-Fascism is so last year.
Posted by: darcy at January 6, 2009 8:29 AM
No. We're the EXACT OPPOSITE of hypocrites. You are an Islamo-NAZI. We are Islamo-SAVANTS.
You know EXACTLY what i am talking about, taqiyya kitman islamo-biatch.
Posted by: Ummah Gummah at January 6, 2009 1:36 AM
Exactly.
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Man, Maria really owned this thread. I've never seen so many people get upset by stupidity. She took you completely off topic.
You know, idiots are best ignored....
This thread reminded me of the frothing that used to happen when Naseen would say something people didn't like.
Posted by: payingattention at January 6, 2009 6:07 AM
I don't agree with that at all. She's gone, we're still here. But, the main thing is that JW's got to CONFRONT a Mohammedan and, in this case, her, utter verbal trash. That's important - it releases the overwhelming outrage we feel, providing some catharsis, and we get to express the many things we've learned about their rotten belief system, which is also important.
Posted by: darcy at January 6, 2009 8:35 AM
Wonderful dialog. Excellent points made, but the missed point is the fact that a Christian won't change an Islamist mind any more than a conservative can change a liberal mind or vice versa.
Islamophobes, Islamonazi's, Radical Islamists by whatever names are getting smart in the western world and practicing Stealth Jihad.
They are slowly infiltrating our society in government, in our school systems through subtle phrasing in books, in our libraries, in our businesses and universities. Our young are being brainwashed and we act unconcerned.
I hope all of you are members of the organization "ACT for America" founded by Brigitte Gabriel. It is the only organization in America dedicated solely to the education of Americans on Islamic Terror. If we, as a country, don't wake up soon, Radical Islamists will succeed because they do, indeed, hate us with a passion. They will not use a sword, but words and lies and deceit. Already, there is a movement to introduce Sharia banking in our system. This is being debated in Washington, believe it or not. We even allow Radical Islamists to parade openly, calling for the destruction of Democracy. Public officials are allowed to be sworn in using a Quran which teaches overthrow of Democracy. Our own stupidity will choke us.
Google "ACT for America" and help stop this Islamic hell.
Sheepdog
Posted by: sheepdog at January 6, 2009 11:08 AM
Dumb darcy payingattention Susanp Ummah Gummah
your just a bunch of nazi pigs who take pleasure in seeing the mass murder of children in war while you sit in your chairs comfortabley and cheer about it you can all go to hell as far as i am concerned Your nothing but a bunch of genocidal cheering cowards.
at January 6, 2009 3:13 PM
Hey guys, look what the cat dragged in!
Maria, I feel so left out, don't forget me.
Maria wishes we would all go to hell, now that isn't very nice. But that's just the sort of 'wish' that a Mohammedan would ask for. Islam sure produces the most rotten of fruit, doesn't it.
Sorry Maria, but I've already addressed the hell issue with God through Jesus Christ, so that ain't gonna happen on my end.
Posted by: champ at January 6, 2009 3:34 PM
champ why do you call yourself champ which is short for champion when you sound like such a loser?
Again ignorant fools like you assuming i am a muslim well i am not muslim I am a christian who is speaking out against isreali attrocoties in gaza.
today isreal bombed a school with children in it and many children died but i guess you dont care you only care that a isreali kindergarten was hit even though nobody died.
now go and cheer along about it with your retard freind dumb darcy.
Posted by: Maria at January 6, 2009 5:22 PM
"...when you sound like such a loser?"
How original. What a pathetic attempt to hurt my feelings. LMAO, instead.
Christian, huh. OK. Well, may I test your "Christianity"? What does it mean to be a Christian, Maria? And who is Jesus Christ to you?
Posted by: champ at January 6, 2009 5:48 PM
Maria is much better at English than I am at Arabic.
Posted by: payingattention at January 6, 2009 9:17 PM
Maria, still not sure whether or not you're a Christian? Well, this test will help you figure it out. The test is actually fun!
The Basic Christianity Test:
http://www.okcupid.com/tests/take?testid=12673148290163236486
at January 7, 2009 1:24 AM
Maria, if you want to argue, argue. CAlling people "facists" and "genocidal" is rather sophomoric, especially since nobody here has advocated genocide, although your heroes in Hamas make no secret of their deep and abiding lust for the destruction of Israel and every last Jew on the planet.
Place the blame for the death of muslim children where it belongs---on Hamas. If you believe that Israel has no right to defend itself from rocket attacks or that the lives of muslim children in Gaza are more precious than Israeli lives, then you are a fascist Jew-hater. If you believe that Israel is wrong to target Hamas just because Hamas deliberately hides behind its own women and children as it lobs rockets at Israeli women and children, then you are a fascist Jew-hater. If you believe that Israel should commit suicide rather than risk killing muslim "civilians", I guess you didn't know that they're all "civilians", even the murderers in Hamas. If you blame Israel for the deaths of muslim children when their parents and the savages in Hamas deliberately put them in harms way and exploit their deaths, you are as immoral and evil as the muslims.
It is very sad when little children are killed in war, especially when their deaths are avoidable. But when the soldiers do not wear uniforms; live, hide, and fight among the civilian population; store rockets, bombs, and weapons in private homes, schools, hospitals, and mosques, what do you expect? How could you blame their deaths on the Jews when it is their own people who deliberately sacrifice them to advance their goal of the destruction of Israel? Your anguish far exceeds that of the barbaric muslims, who would sacrifice every last child in Gaza to achieve their goal. Life means nothing to these people, not even the lives of their children.
Posted by: Susanp at January 7, 2009 1:29 AM
Susanp - you are your comments are awesome, and I've always thought so! Just sayin'.... :-) Take care!
Posted by: champ at January 7, 2009 12:18 PM
...you "AND" your comments....errrr
Posted by: champ at January 7, 2009 12:19 PM
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