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Behold the brazen hypocrisy: Hamas launches attacks from civilian areas and uses children as human shields, and then uses the deaths of Palestinian children to justify murdering Jewish children anywhere in the world. And the world yawns and issues another condemnation of Israel.
"Hamas: Israel has legitimised the killing of its children," by James Hider in the Times, January 5 (thanks to all who sent this in):
As fighting intensified on the northern outskirts of Gaza City today, a top Hamas leader broke cover to warn Israel that the Islamists would kill Jewish children anywhere in the world in revenge for their own young who have died in the devastating assault.“They have legitimised the murder of their own children by killing the children of Palestine,” said Mahmoud Zahar, in a televised broadcast recorded at a secret location. “They have legitimised the killing of their people all over the world by killing our people.”
Mr Zahar, a hard-line political leader, made his first appearance since Israeli launched its offensive against his organisation. Dressed in a dark suit and as he read the statement, he declared “Victory is coming, God willing.” As night fell on the territory, most of which is now without electricity, the dark sky above Gaza was illuminated by explosions and flares from the pitched battle on Gaza City’s northern fringes, where Israeli tanks, helicopters and artillery fought to dislodge Hamas guerrillas. Witnesses said the battle had, for the first time, spilled into Gaza City itself, where the head of Hamas’ armed wing warned thousands of his determined fighters were waiting for the invaders.[...]
But France's Sarkozy shows that he is not entirely a lost cause:
Mr Sarkozy quickly ran foul of Hamas though when he said it must bear most of the blame for the increasingly miserable plight of the 1.5 million Gazans it rules over.“Hamas acted in an irresponsible and unforgiveable manner... Hamas is to blame for the suffering of the Palestinians,” he said. A Hamas spokesman quickly accused the French leader of “total bias” towards Israel.
Posted by Robert at January 5, 2009 5:22 PM
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It is very disturbing to me that what is happening and that the world continues to appease to Muslims. I do not understand this appeasement or the root of it in terms of history and politics.
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at January 5, 2009 5:38 PM
From the article: "A Hamas spokesman quickly accused the French leader of “total bias” towards Israel."
Perhaps, just perhaps, it's not a "total bias" towards Israel, but a "total bias" against the evil of Hamas and the misogynistic, totalitarian ideology that we continue to grace by mistakenly referring to is as a religion.
at January 5, 2009 5:48 PM
OMG!
??? If the world were to take this ass-hat seriously, wouldn't the NEXT step in the escalation be killing muslim children where ever we find them? (Or just "Palastine" kids anywhere in the world?)
Certainly that won't happen - but it does show the twisted thinking of this person. Waiting for some semi nut-case here in the U.S. to take him at his word. Reminds me of the Stockton Shooting
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockton_massacre
not that this is the end all to be all of references, but a starting point - note what he had carved on the gun, and written on his flak jacket - hummm.
Posted by: RecycledCG at January 5, 2009 6:00 PM
Meanwhile, an amazing and significant event in Italy: the former Minister of Defense, Antonio Martino, criticizes the current Foreign Minister for being insufficiently denunciatory of the "Palestinian" Arabs, and correctly notes that this is "not a war against Israel, but a war against the entire West." And he further says that it is important not to give the impression that the only view in the E.U. is that of France and Sarkozy, which still finds a false equivalency between Hamas and Israel, when all sensible people, all non-idiots, morally speaking, know there is none.
Posted by: Hugh at January 5, 2009 6:01 PM
Here is that attack by former Minister of Defense Antonio Martino on his party colleague, the present Minister of Foreign Affairs Frattini, for believing that Hamas is only attacking Israel when, Martini says in an article, Hamas (and by implication all Muslims engaged in Jihad) has set its sights on the entire West. Martini goes on to call Frattini a "fifone" (wimp, wuss) and further deplors the fact that by not taking on Hamas directly, and unequivocally, Frattini helps to further the impression that the only foreign policy stance of the E.U. is that (deplorable one of not standing firmly with Israel and against Hamas) by France and Sarkozy.
This is an important moment, and some may think, may allow themselves to believe, as I do, that this signals a shift in Europe, as Yesterday's Men, with their standard "Palestinianiasm" and fear of offending Muslims are subject to withering criticism, for they have outstayed their welcome, as part of the political and media elites of Europe, whose peoples now are beginning to know better, and to feel more keenly the meaning, and menace, of Islam.
Here's the summary in the latest Corriere della Sera:
Martino: «Frattini su Gaza? È un fifone»
L'ex ministro contro il collega del Pdl: «Avalla l’idea che Hamas attacchi Israele: no, prende di mira l'Occidente»
ROMA - Domenica Walter Veltroni aveva definito la posizione della Farnesina «inadeguata». Ma la vera sorpresa è che anche dalla maggioranza arrivano critiche al ministro Frattini dopo che, a fronte di un intenso lavoro diplomatico della Ue e degli Usa per porre fine al sanguinoso conflitto in Medio Oriente, il governo italiano ha emesso un comunicato in cui si parla di «preoccupazione e apprensione». Dalle colonne della Stampa è l’ex ministro della Difesa ed esponente di Forza Italia Antonio Martino a dire senza mezzi termini che il problema di Franco Frattini è che «ha un unico grande difetto: è un fifone. Non ha coraggio, in questa crisi a Gaza; e quando uno non ha coraggio non può darselo. Solo che in politica l’assenza di coraggio è il difetto peggiore. Frattini è attanagliato dal terrore di sembrare troppo aggressivo con i palestinesi, il risultato è che avalla l’idea, sciaguratamente sbagliata, che sia in corso un attacco di Hamas contro Israele. No. Hamas attacca l’Occidente tutto, attacca anche noi e ci dovremmo difendere come si difende Israele». Per Martino, dunque, «il nostro amico Frattini è un fifone, ed è anche colpa del nostro governo se si ha l’impressione che l’unica politica estera europea sia quella incarnata da Sarkozy».
FRATTINI: «TRAVISATO» - È stato poi lo stesso ministro degli Esteri a sdrammatizzare le parole di Martino, in un'intervista a Sky Tg24: «Devo dire, per onor del vero, di aver ricevuto una telefonata di Martino dispiaciuto e indignato per come le sue parole sono state interpretate». Frattini ha aggiunto che andrà nei Territori palestinesi «appena le condizioni saranno mature».
Posted by: Hugh at January 5, 2009 6:02 PM
This Hamas "leader" crawled out of his rathole long enough to threaten Jewish children worldwide. While his own reckless and cowardly acts are what put children in Gaza at risk.Typical twisted Muslim logic.The rather desperate threats are also a tipoff that Hamas is losing in Gaza.
Posted by: Roxane at January 5, 2009 6:03 PM
Must be no room for children in the hole where Mr. Zahar is hiding.
He must know he is a target, so the 1000lb. question is if he is a family man, or if his family prefers him not to be?
Posted by: flowerknife_us at January 5, 2009 6:08 PM
In today's Times Newspaper there was the usual Pro Palestine reporting Hamas: Israel has legitimised the killing of its children as you can see. The newspapers must interview one Israeli to every 100,000 Palestinians/Muslims.
I of course wrote a reply which won't be published but it went along the lines of
Nice to see the Times being impartial as usual. I am amazed that Hamas talks of legitimising killing of Children when it used its own to hide behind against while they fired rockets at Israel. Shame on you Times.
We see this all over the place and it's disgusting. This is how our nation has become indoctrinated - a total swing of the truth and what's right to lies and everything through the eyes of the left. Honestly these twits would sit atop the highest tree and saw away at the bough they were sitting on in their relationship with their country being the tree.
This is why we have the trouble in the UK and the growing resentment of America and Israel because it's right there, daily, in every newspaper. This is why our people are marching with the Muslims because of what they see in the paper. There should be a law brought in to the UK that any paper that publishes deceitful articles, the editor and journalists involved should face heavy prison sentences. This is not freedom of speech but disgusting hate speech and defamation. It is far more damaging to society that they could imagine. I wonder if they realised that it's their articles that cause Jewish people to be attacked in London and around the UK?
The British media is like our youth, feral. It is despicable, utterly despicable that it should not even consider to seek out the truth before publishing such rubbish. I'm sickened more by the fact that they take the Muslims side all the time, over a Judeo/Christian culture that created this wonderful, free West to live in.
We need a huge all out war in the West to rid us of not only Islam but the communism that is grounded deep into socialism and destroying our country and Western Civilisation.
Posted by: Richard the Lionheart at January 5, 2009 6:11 PM
He is a threat, but are we afraid of him? We know his motive. Once we find him, one jdamn should do the trick.
Posted by: Infidel#1 at January 5, 2009 6:13 PM
This is the same crap they always spew.
It is not new.
Israeli babies have always been targets.
They start killing children in Europe and America and you will see things change for "immigrants".
at January 5, 2009 6:16 PM
oh, btw, don't muslims love matryrdom. I have always thought that we love life while they love death. Geez. Do they not love Allah? Methinks they all know the moon-god Allah is a fake!
Why is Mahmoud Zahar hiding?
Posted by: Infidel#1 at January 5, 2009 6:22 PM
Speaking of Hamas, The Atlantic's Jeffrey Goldberg, is one disillusioned journalist.
http://jeffreygoldberg.theatlantic.com/archives/2009/01/nizar_rayyan_of_hamas_on_gods.php
Nizar Rayyan of Hamas on God's Hatred of Jews
Rayyan: "The only reason to have a hudna is to prepare yourself for the final battle. We don't need 50 years to prepare ourselves for the final battle with Israel." There is no chance, he said, that true Islam would ever allow a Jewish state to survive in the Muslim Middle East. "Israel is an impossibility. It is an offense against God."
http://jeffreygoldberg.theatlantic.com/
05 Jan 2009 04:14 pm
Why I'm Not Blogging More About Gaza
Andrew Sullivan just asked me (live, not on e-mail; bloggers at the Atlantic actually talk to each other) why I haven't been posting more on Gaza. The simple answer is that I'm busy reporting, and I hope to head to the Middle East soon, to personally broker a cease-fire, or at least get some writing done, and see some friends.
The more complicated answer was provided by Marc Ambinder, who analyzed my personal situation correctly: Gaza has overdetermined me into paralysis.....
Posted by: Wild Jew at January 5, 2009 6:35 PM
aren't they brave? Threatening to kill children, these big, tough terrorists....
Posted by: gymgal at January 5, 2009 6:56 PM
Maria! Hello!
Where is your condemnation now? You were full of condemnation towards Israel on another thread, but yet you remain silent towards Hamas on this thread. No worries, your silence speaks loud and clear.
Posted by: champ at January 5, 2009 7:03 PM
They (Islamists=Muslims) so do not care for their own children (see they use them for human shields) that they think they can shift blame towards Israel for killing them.But Hamas is the monster who puts the children in danger. They are the ones who are teaching them to kill and to become martyrs. What ever happened to loving your children? Not sending them off as a suicidal bomber and killer of innocents.
So much for Muslim and Islamic wisdom.
Posted by: gypsedrifter at January 5, 2009 7:14 PM
Thanks for posting this, Hugh.
Good to see that people are standing up against the Frattini fifones!
Yep: learned another word in Italian: "fifone"- which means chickenshit.
But didn't Frattini force Martino to retract and apologize, or at least to claim that his words were 'misinterpreted?'
at January 5, 2009 7:40 PM
It is lucky for Gaza and Palestinians, that Churchill and bomber Harris are not running the show in Gaza. Harris had an unorthodox view of proportionality and disproportionality.
Posted by: DP111 at January 5, 2009 7:41 PM
The base, vile character of HAMAS and its leaders is exposed here, if only we look and see it.
Posted by: John C at January 5, 2009 7:51 PM
Mohammadans have been killing and/or enslaving Jewish children and other kufr children for more than a thousand years 'They are with them', so said the Prophet.
Calling for the deaths of Jews, young and old, everywhere has already been done...All kufrs are guilty, jews and otherwise, and 'deserve' to die,
or convert, or submit to dhimmihood...And don't forget to pay the tax...
at January 5, 2009 8:02 PM
The left subscribe to a very poisonous form of idealism, a sort of utopian fantasy world where anyone can be placated and prevailed upon to be peaceful if we simply 'understand' their grievances and try to give them what they want. Seeing leftists allied with Hamas supporting Muslims seems incredible when the values liberals champion are so at odds with what Muslims want, but making right wrong so we can all get along is what drives them.
They do not understand intuitively that some people cannot be reasoned with, negotiated with and prevailed upon for anything. They do not understand that conflict is sometimes the only solution to radical ideology. They don't understand that you don't have to be the weaker party in a conflict to be right. Ultimately, their worldview is morally inverted and they are now dragging us all down with them.
I see Europe going back into the 1930s at this rate. The leftist media should be ashamed of what they are creating - a monster you cannot just fit back into its box once unleashed.
Posted by: Infidelicious at January 5, 2009 8:16 PM
Infidelicious,
So many valid points, and your last one is especially important:
I see Europe going back into the 1930s at this rate. The leftist media should be ashamed of what they are creating - a monster you cannot just fit back into its box once unleashed.
And they say they're engineering a more "tolerant" society. Ironic, isn't it?
at January 5, 2009 8:38 PM
"Hamas: Israel has legitimised the killing of its children,"....
Dear Robert;
OH WOW! ! !
THIS IS REALLY SOMETHIN'! ! ! I MEAN TO TELL YOU! ! !
This just goes to show you that Hamas is really, really, really, really, really mad now. Because I'm sure you know, that no Islamic organization in the history of the world, has ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, wanted to kill Jew babies.
In fact, I even heard that The Big Moe himself, used to read bedtime stories to Jewish children. And that every Hanukkah, he would fly around southwest Asia in a sleigh with eight tiny camels, delivering toys, candy to all the Jewish children.
But now the Hamas-ites? Hamas-ians? What do you call a bunch of Hamas es es? Anyway; now these brave men of honor, who never, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, hide behind innocent women, and children, or wrap a rag around their faces, are going to come out of hiding to try to kill Jewish children.
So watch out Israel! ! ! You are really, really, really, really, really, really, gonna' get it now!
Sincerely;
EJO
at January 5, 2009 8:55 PM
Did anyone else see the story on Israelnationalnews.com where Israeli students were asking for help hacking Ham-ass websites?
They took the story down on A7 but I was wondering if anyone has checked it out.
If anyone has the link it would be greatly appreciated.
If I remember correctly, these students are asking for people to voluntarily download their software, which they say is safe and will not slow down ones computer noticeably, to flood Hamas websites and shut them down.
Again if anyone has the link or has tested the software, I would greatly appreciate the help.
Go IDF!!!!
Baruch Hashem,
Dani' El
at January 5, 2009 9:01 PM
Maria! Hello!
Where is your condemnation now? You were full of condemnation towards Israel on another thread, but yet you remain silent towards Hamas on this thread. No worries, your silence speaks loud and clear.
Posted by: champ at January 5, 2009 7:03 PM
I think "Maria" is either getting the crap beat out of her at the moment before bedtime by an islamic hubby; or "he she or it" fell fast asleep since it is in the wee hours in the morning in Londonstan -- er, uh, London -- at the moment.
In any case "Maria" would either:
1. deny that Mr Zahar would ever actually said such a thing about children
or
2. would claim that Mr Zahar justified to say such citing of course isrealies killing palistian children and such like
A rational discussion with the "Maria's of the world" is a worthless venture unless of course you relish the occasional joust with like-minded of this ilk.
My advice is to keep your powder dry for the real battle which is coming soon.
A toast to the "juice" everywhere -- may their God prevail and may their children be blessed.
Posted by: witness at January 5, 2009 9:06 PM
Did anyone else see the story on Israelnationalnews.com where Israeli students were asking for help hacking Ham-ass websites?
They took the story down on A7 but I was wondering if anyone has checked it out.
If anyone has the link it would be greatly appreciated.
If I remember correctly, these students are asking for people to voluntarily download their software, which they say is safe and will not slow down ones computer noticeably, to flood Hamas websites and shut them down.
Again if anyone has the link or has tested the software, I would greatly appreciate the help.
Go IDF!!!!
Baruch Hashem,
Dani' El
________________________________________________________
Can't they use a hydrogen bomb?
Or what about that new palestinian super collider
it's called something like The Hebron Collider.
at January 5, 2009 9:19 PM
This Hamas "leader" crawled out of his rathole long enough to threaten Jewish children worldwide. While his own reckless and cowardly acts are what put children in Gaza at risk.Typical twisted Muslim logic.The rather desperate threats are also a tipoff that Hamas is losing in Gaza.
Posted by: Roxane [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 5, 2009 6:03 PM
--
By moslem logic all our children are targets because we haven't "accepted islam".
Like I said: THEIR logic.
Posted by: Ummah Gummah at January 5, 2009 9:27 PM
I guess the Israelis are not going to end this offensive without something they can legitimately call victory. The last little war was counted in many quarters as a sort of Israeli disaster, so I doubt the Israelis will let that happen again if they can help it, and they can. Meanwhile, threatening Jewish children worldwide is only going to give the Israelis righteous fury in wiping out Hamas jihadists. I feel sorry for Hamas members, since they are perhaps victims of the evil that possesses them, but they must be stopped forcefully for the sake of those whom Hamas murders, terrorizes, and tyrannizes in furtherance of the totalitarian religious impulse of Islam.
Posted by: traeh at January 5, 2009 9:43 PM
YES, WE CAN
Posted by: dammahom at January 5, 2009 10:01 PM
Is this a fatwa? Does it make it incumbent upon MSU members to kill Jews in their midst, since the MSU is just another wing of Hamas? I think this dude just told the Muslims with whom I go to school to kill me. Am I crazy to read this like that?
Infidel #1, if you were implying that I would lay this weasel out, then you are indeed correct.
Posted by: jdamn at January 5, 2009 10:06 PM
Dani'El, hee you go, baby. Thank you for the heads-up. I will send this around.
I would think that the Mossad would have some of the best anti-ejihadists around and not have to resort to Faithfreedom-overloading tactics, but I'm glad to help. They need to enlist some 13-year-old Korean kids tout de suite.
Posted by: jdamn at January 5, 2009 10:15 PM
If anyone tells you Israel is killing innocent children, show them this:
click here to watch this short video
at January 5, 2009 10:32 PM
If anyone tells you Israel is killing innocent children, show them this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTGbP55HGi8
Posted by: Mackie at January 5, 2009 10:34 PM
I thought that muslims teach you that all children are born as muslims.. well anyhow Hammas does not care for their own children why would they even care for the children of Jews,Christians,Hindus, Tutus, etc.
Posted by: ZenaWarriorPrincess at January 5, 2009 10:42 PM
As fighting intensified on the northern outskirts of Gaza City today, a top Hamas leader broke cover to warn Israel that the Islamists would kill Jewish children anywhere in the world in revenge for their own young who have died in the devastating assault.
..................
And what excuse did they have when Pakistani Jihadists tore the little unborn baby from Rivka Holtzberg's womb and murdered the child in fron of his father and dying mother at the Chabad House in Mumbai?
What excuse did Samir Kuntar have for murdering an Israeli man in front of his little four-year-old daughter, before bashing her brains out with a rifle butt? This man was then lauded as a hero in his triumphant entry into Lebanon.
These Jihadists have never needed any excuse for murdering Jewish children.
And then there is Israel, which is doing all it can to minimize Gazan child casualties--indeed, doing all they can to minimize all civilian deaths.
Posted by: gravenimage at January 5, 2009 11:04 PM
The Big Lies
Can the media be manipulated by Israel's Enemies to report fictional atrocities as fact?
http://www.honestreporting.com/a/bigLies.asp
Posted by: Mackie at January 5, 2009 11:23 PM
Jdamn-
When I try to get on to the site-
Help-israel-win.com
I lose my connection.
You?
Why do I get the impression that the Mossad put a stop to their plans?
It could only complicate their own plans, no?
The story was sanitized from A7 too.
Baruch Hashem,
Dani' El
at January 5, 2009 11:29 PM
MEANWHILE, take a look at the end of this article (courtesy of Reuters/ AFP) that I just read on my national news site.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/01/06/2459657.htm?section=justin
Read the final paragraph, compare it with the vicious threat expressed by Mahmoud Zahar in the article we are all currently discussing, and puke.
Here it is.
QUOTE.
"Sigrid Kaag, regional director of the UN Children's Fund (UNICEF), warned that "the humanitarian crisis is hitting children and women most.
"The children in Gaza are currently being deprived not only of the basic human rights any human being should enjoy, but are also being denied the fundamental rights specific to children." QUOTE.
Now, where has Sigrid Kaag been, pray tell, when rockets were randomly raining down from Gaza on Jewish homes and shops? When Jewish children were too scared to eat or sleep or go outside to play? Did she ever utter a peep about Hamas rockets fired off deliberately during the 'time window' when Jewish children in southern Israel were going to school or coming home from school.
Perhaps Mossad could kidnap Sigrid Kaag, tie her to a lamp-post in the middle of Sderot, Beersheba, or Ashkelon, tell her not to worry, those Hamas rockets are 'home made', really no more than fireworks, quite ineffective, they rarely kill anybody...then leave her there for a few hours.
There was another article on the Aussie news website, featuring a bunch of Aussie dhimmi Jews 'protesting' against what Israel was doing;
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/01/06/2459666.htm?section=justin
But the final paragraph in it is the riposte to Sigrid Kaag's moral idiocy and bias:
"...the deputy chief of mission at the Israeli embassy in Canberra, Eli Yerushalmi, says people who are not in Israel are not well placed to comment on the action.
"It's very easy to sit down in cities, in the safety of Australia or other countries, and criticise Israel," he said.
"We are in a different kind of situation where 15 per cent of our population is now in shelters, our kids aren't going to school, people cannot go to the supermarket, people can't move around freely, because they're afraid of rocket attacks." END QUOTE.
He might have added that the children of places like Sderot have been living in terror, sleeping in safe rooms, scurrying for cover, day in, day out, week in, week in week out, for YEARS.
Posted by: dumbledoresarmy at January 5, 2009 11:37 PM
This statement doesn't surprise me at all. After all, Islam is a barbaric religion/cult which makes it perfectly acceptable for a Muslim imam to go around and kill innocent little children. The idiots who and try defend these murderers are not only naive but complicit in their hatred towards the Jews. Or else how can you explain the 'defenders of Islam' never having anything negative to say about Hamas or those other 200 or so ISLAMIC terror orgainzations. It is perfectly acceptable for Hamas to launch rocket attacks indiscriminately against Israel(they dont care whether the rocket hits a school/synagogue/senile man/or a child) but the moment Israel tries to retaliate against those attacks the world Islamic community starts frothing. Double Standards or simply Racism?
I feel sad for Israel. All alone in this fight against Islam. We in India realize that the game is up. We understand that Islam is a death cult, we understand that Islam wants us all 'infidels' dead, we understand that our Bulls--t 'secular' media is also complicit in its reporting of Islam. Most of all, we understand that we are know facing a Just war, a war against Islamic oppression/tyranny/terror. I long for the day when I will be able to join my Israeli and American brothers on a battlefield and fight this menace of 'Islam' once and for all. What they need is a strong brutal reposnse to terror. What Israel is doing is exactly that.
Go Israel.
Jai Hind.
at January 6, 2009 1:50 AM
Double Standards or simply Racism?
Both. Double standards for Jews, who must be perfect all the time, and who are always subject to denigration, either for any imperfection or for some "conpiracy" explaining why they're perfect.
For Arabs, sheer racism. Arabs are never to be held to any standard, be it moral, ethical, legal, or intellectual. Racist double standard.
Posted by: jdamn at January 6, 2009 2:33 AM
"The British media is like our youth, feral. It is despicable, utterly despicable that it should not even consider to seek out the truth before publishing such rubbish. I'm sickened more by the fact that they take the Muslims side all the time, over a Judeo/Christian culture that created this wonderful, free West to live in."
Posted by: Richard the Lionheart [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 5, 2009 6:11 PM
Here is some reading matter for you. It is a bit long, but worth the effort.
Am essay by Fjordman about Eurabia: The Eurabia Code — 2008 Updates
http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2008/11/defeating-eurabia-update.html
at January 6, 2009 2:43 AM
Champ
You beat me to it. I think Witness is right ;-)
Of course, Maria will say she condemns everything, but then narrow down on the 'Juice'.
Posted by: Infidel Pride at January 6, 2009 3:35 AM
"Victory is coming, God willing."
========================================
Well, considering that this fantabulous religion considers the highest good to be "death in the cause of Allah", I bet we can construe a win-win situation, buddy-boy... just stay right where you are...
Posted by: A_Nonny_Mouse at January 6, 2009 4:23 AM
The only reason Hamas resents Israel for the death of the junior Gazans is because Hams prefers to kill their own kids in their own time by sending them to be suicide bombers against infidel Israel.
They prefer their kids to die when THEY choose, not as the result of infidels defending themselves.
Posted by: carpediadem at January 6, 2009 6:05 AM
pr126,
It is an excellent piece of essay writing. It shows that our governments are not 'our governments' and do not have the people's interests at heart.
I have known for a long time the machinations of the EU. It is a despicable collection of bureaucrats and politicians, fat on greed, who care nought for their people. Yet the people still continue to elect them, they still do nothing when they see what they are trying to and achieving?
What really is to be done other that war? Who would have thought that the last defence the people of the Europe and the West would have was revolution?
I've been saying exactly what Fjordman has been saying for a while now. I've always knows to quote:
.....The European Union — or the Eurabian Empire — is a power grab by the elites intended to dismantle the nations they are supposed to serve. Instead of being mere servants of the people in smaller countries, they aspire to become members of an unaccountable elite ruling a vast empire. This is why they continue to promote mass immigration as if nothing has happened even as native Europeans get blown up, raped, mugged and murdered in their own cities. They are generals on a warpath. Ordinary citizens are just cannon fodder, pawns to be sacrificed in a giant game of political chess in their quest for more personal power, a recreation of the Roman Empire designed to make up for the declining international influence of European nation states.....
People become Politicians for one reason - greed and immunity. They have their own laws.
I admire Robert Spencer greatly and his efforts in notifying the World about Islam and the dangers(not forgetting what it's all about) are second to none, however I think that Robert doesn't quite see just what the EU is trying to do.
America is lucky in that it has a constitution and the citizens are put first. In Europe we have nothing like that whatsoever.
To quote from the article again:
....In a letter appearing in the respected Italian newspaper Corriere della Sera, former Italian President Francesco Cossiga in 2008 revealed that the government of Italy in the 1970s agreed to allow Arab terrorist groups freedom of movement in the country in exchange for immunity from attacks.....
If the people of Europe do not unite together and vote for Nationalist Parties that take their people's and Nation's interests above others then the European Civilisation is lost.
I have said it many times on here but Nationalism is the only political ideology that can save the West. Any other Political ideology and party will bring it further to chaos and ultimate Islamisation.
These politicians should be 'hung, drawn and quartered' for treason to their people and Nation. I am talking of every European Politician and member of the European Parliament.
I apologise if Robert Spencer does actually know of the severity of this situation in Europe, but then I also must ask that what are his ideas on this and how can it be stopped, other than full out war against our political leaders and written constitutions for every European country?
Posted by: Richard the Lionheart at January 6, 2009 6:33 AM
And with these comments, HAMAS revelas the truth: it has no right to exist. NO regime that officially endorses the murder of civilian children has the right to exist. And given that they can hide behind the Koran, a suspicious eye must be cast to its Salafist-governed neighbours. Certainly before they receive any more millions of dollars of aid. Of course, that assumes the Obama hasn't already been bought and sold by the HAMAS-channeled donations he received during his campaign.
Posted by: Australian at January 6, 2009 8:03 AM
America is lucky in that it has a constitution and the citizens are put first. In Europe we have nothing like that whatsoever.
Hate to say this but I believe this is going to change soon. We have a "President-elect" who is not qualified to take the oath of office for several reasons; who has said repeatedly that he be believes the Constitution he presumably will swear to "uphold and defend" is defective and must be "changed"; and we are only two states aproval away from conviening a constitutional convention where we could literally throw the whole thing out.
Hoping I'm wrong and that you are right for a long time to come!
at January 6, 2009 9:18 AM
One more thing -- we have almost had martial law declared at least twice since 9/11. The latest was last September during the engineered economic meltdown where Paulson et al thought the people were smart enough to see what was happening and would riot.
They were wrong -- the people are clueless about so many things and actually do what they are told no matter what kind of despot is in charge.
Fortunately, Hitler and Stalin were born too early and in a different place; had they come to power now and in the US, they would have flourished!
Posted by: witness at January 6, 2009 9:23 AM
witness,
I have to agree with you. If Obama attempts to change the American constitution then it means the bringing in of oppressive laws on a par with what's happening all over Europe. It would mean an end to freedom of speech as well as laws on a par to our Incitement to Religious Hatred Law 2005. In other words an Anti Islamic discussion Law.
I have said this from day one that unless drastic action is taken now the whole world will be Islamised. Many will disagree with me on this but unless Islam is removed/drastically reduced in percentage to overall population(1%max) and not allowed to surpass that then Islam will simply Islamise by sheer population growth.
Obama is the most dangerous thing to happen to the USA.
On a different note, I watched a documentary last night on Smokin' Joe Frazier and his rivalry with Muhammad Ali. I was disgusted to see the tirade of abuse wrought upon him from Ali(direct from the Nation of Islam). I was sickened to see the blatant racism from the Nation of Islam not only on Frazier but also on whites in America. It was awful to see the alienation of Frazier by the media and the fact that he was called an Uncle Tom by Ali, who, unlike Frazier had never worked in the fields as a youth. I used to think Ali was the greatest but it seems that Frazier was actually the greatest as he technically won the fight that was stopped against Ali on October 1, 1975 by his corner. The fact also that Muhammad said what he did when Frazier helped him also goes to show the love of Christianity and the hatred of Islam.
I don't know why I wrote all this, I suppose I just wanted to share more Islamic dominance that was at work in the USA in the 70's.
at January 6, 2009 10:05 AM
I found this article on thereligionofpeace.com. What we see is pure Islam, plain and simple:
http://dharmaveer.blogspot.com/2009/01/what-is-radical-islam.html
Posted by: Claude at January 6, 2009 2:02 PM
Claude,
It is a good article, but nothing different to what is said here on a daily basis. It's good to see that it's from a Hindu in India, who sees the threat(as has it always been there).
However,
I disagree on his idea that Islam needs to be reformed. How can we reform a Cult that's very foundations are based on control, oppression and bloodshed? If we were to start reforming Islam, we'd have to immediately get rid of their central figure of Muhammad yet if we did, what would Islam be? Everything about Islam stems from Muhammad.
If we turned Islam into a Religion of Peace by doing that, then what would be the difference to it Christianity and Judaism? Take away Muhammad, the violence and most of Islam and what you have left, the tolerant/peaceful part is stolen straight from the teachings of Christ.
The simple fact of Islam and how to solve it is to remove it from the West. Do not allow it to grow ever, banish it to its Islamic Lands and cut off all outside contact to it. It is simply a 'religion' that is not fit to live amongst any other culture on this earth.
Posted by: Richard the Lionheart at January 6, 2009 3:01 PM
Hamas = scum
Time to scrape the scum off and pitch it.
Posted by: bonncaruso at January 6, 2009 5:11 PM
Richard the Lionheart
What you say about Muhammad Ali reminds me of something in Oriana Fallaci's 'The Force of Reason'.
Because in that at one point she starts thinking back, trying to work out when she should have seen the 'straws in the wind' , the hints that the global Jihad was getting underway bigtime, and one thing she comes up with, is an interview she did with Muhammad Ali in the 1960s.
On page 118 of the English edition, right at the end of chapter 4, she says:
QUOTE
"In fact now I ask myself through what negligence or stupidity or destiny people like me failed to realize in time that we were coming to this.
"And while I ask it, my memory goes back to the sixties. It takes me back to May 1966 when in Miami Florida I interviewed a boxer born with the name of Cassius Clay but [who], through his conversion to Islam, had become Muhammad Ali".
Chapter Five then starts off,
"It takes me back because that interview should have opened my eyes. Or, in the least, should have led me to suspect that in the West something very very dangerous was going on.
"Prospectively, more dangerous than the Cold War...In the Sixties, in fact, an unprecedented wave of Islamic students from Muslim Africa, financed by Arab countries, invaded both Europe and the United states with the slogan, 'Revival of Islam'".
She adds, later, "I used to judge him [Ali] a freak of nature...I saw no threat in that caricature of stupidity and nastiness. That parody of evil. Yet a couple of times, I was seized by doubt. By the thought that not taking him seriously was a mistake, that his case might be more significant than it seemed".
She relates: "The first time (we met twice) when he said to me, 'I love Elijah Muhammad much more than my mother. Because Elijah Muhammad is a Muslim and my mother is a Christian. I could even die for Elijah Muhammad. For my mother, not at all."
"The second time, when the Black Muslims crowding his house assaulted me because I had sent him to Hell.
'He was very hostile, that day. Very resentful and particularly nasty. Instead of answering my questions he snorted, scratched himself, ate massive slices of watermelon and belched in my face...
'in the end my patience ran out. I threw the recorder microphone away, stood up, and articulating a well-deserved "Go to Hell", I walked out. I went to the taxi waiting for me in front of his house.
'Well, at first he showed no reaction. Struck with astonishment he sat...and didn't even have the impulse to flatten me with one of his deadly knock-out punches.
'But the Black Muslims came after me. Led by his Spiritual Adviser (a certain Sam Saxon) they reached the taxi I had just rejoined, and shouting wildly, "Filthy Christian!" they surrounded it. They started lifting it, trying to overturn it, and...
'The street was deserted. The terrified driver (*a black man wearing a necklace with a Coptic cross* {nota bene - dda}) couldn't get the engine [to] start, couldn't drive away.
'And if a police car hadn't happened to pass by (a miracle that seriously put my religious unbelief at stake) I wouldn't be here to tell the story.
Oriana concludes, "The thought that not taking him [Ali] seriously could be a mistake also occurred to me when I heard that thanks to him Islamic proselytism had increased a lot..".
END QUOTE.
Posted by: dumbledoresarmy at January 6, 2009 5:13 PM
Death penalty for child murderers: time to eradicate Hamas.
Posted by: bonncaruso at January 6, 2009 5:14 PM
So: because some Gazan Arab Muslim children (who are being trained up to be warriors jihad fi sabil allah anyway, to slay and be slain, and who are being deliberately, by Hamas, put in harm's way as human shields) get killed in the course of a war that HAMAS started, the Hamas jihad gang bosses are encouraging all Muslims everywhere to attack Jewish children..everywhere.
This is an exact parallel to something else that we are seeing: attacks on synagogues OUTSIDE the middle east, by Muslims OUTSIDE the Middle East; whereas mosques outside Gaza appear to be perfectly safe from any kind of assault by Jews, and no Jewish leader whether inside Israel or outside, is mentioning *those* mosques at all.
The Battle of Gaza, Jews versus Hamas Jihadists, has been going on for about ten days now.
Within Gaza - ONLY IN GAZA- the Israelis have bombed certain mosques and the subsequent spectacular secondary explosions have revealed the obvious: that those mosques were doing double duty as arsenals.
Nowhere else in the world has any Jew attacked a mosque: the mosques in France and the UK and Australia appear to be perfectly safe, quite untouched (actually, I wish our kafir governments would draw the obvious lesson from Gaza, and pay lightning surprise raid-and-search visits to those mosques already known to have hosted inflammatory speakers, sold hate literature, been attended by jihad plotters, etc, but that's another story).
At the pro-Jihad rallies there have been open calls to attack and kill...not 'Israelis', but... Jews, any and all Jews.
In France, and in the USA, just in the last week, synagogues have been attacked...by Muslims, I am convinced of it.
But neither the Israeli government nor any Jewish leader anywhere else, religious or secular, has called for Jews worldwide to attack Muslims or mosques wherever encountered.
A 'Palestinian' Muslim in Denmark shot at two Jewish Israelis in the middle of a shopping mall in broad daylight; a rampaging mob of Muslim lads went through the Jewish quarter in Golders Green; but where was the corresponding rampaging mob of Jewish lads going through a Muslim quarter in London attacking kebab shops? There wasn't.
These sorts of contrasting facts needed to be pointed out, over and over again, to any of the uninformed who are even halfway willing to listen.
at January 6, 2009 5:37 PM
dumbledoresarmy,
Thank you for that and good for Oriana. Muhammad Ali has bee turned into a god and this of course has spurred on Islam in the USA. I would also imagine as well that the recruiting of Ali for the N.o.I. helped increase the joining up rate.
I have to say that I despise the N.o.I. as they are a truly despicable bunch. After all, any group that states that the white men are "blue eyed devils created in the Laboratories of Jacub" really isn't going to get any brownie points from me.
It's interesting what you should say about Ali's love for Elijah Muhammad more than his mother. It's ironic that you also see the same for Obama and Rev. Jeremiah Wright. I would also imagine that Louis Farrakhan's up there as well.
What a brave woman of integrity Oriana Fallaci was andyes I have read up on her already. If only she had seen the dangers then of Islam and helped to educate the rulers at the time, maybe Islam wouldn't be what it's like in the West.
Posted by: Richard the Lionheart at January 6, 2009 7:07 PM
Dumbledoresarmy, I thought that last post ws Hugh until I scrolled to the end.
You guys should drive through downtown Louisville, as I did just this last September, and see how many images of Muhammad Ali there are, one of them a huge billboard atop a stadium and another taking up the entire side of one of the larger buildings in the area. It's disgusting, celebrating a racist subversive like him.
Posted by: jdamn at January 6, 2009 7:14 PM
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