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They call them "martyrdom operations," of course, and to call them that is entirely Qur'anically correct in light of the verse that guarantees Paradise to those who "kill and are killed" for Allah (9:111). But that verse also, and the promise it conveys, should keep at the forefront of our minds the fact that when Iran boasts of signing students up for "martyrdom," they are actually signing them up to die while committing mass murder.
An update on this story. "Over 70,000 students sign up for martyrdom operation list," from IRNA, January 5 (thanks to Sr. Soph):
Tehran, Jan 5, IRNA -- More than 70,000 students from universities throughout Iran have signed up on the list to conduct 'Esteshhadi' (martyrdom seeking)operations.Announcing this at a press conference on Monday, Director of the Public Relations Department at Students’ Basij Organization Esmaeel Ahmadi said that the students will act as part of Esteshhadi battalions....
Posted by Robert at January 6, 2009 8:41 AM
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What's Persian for "Cannon Fodder?"
Hopefully Bush will bomb them before he leaves office.
Posted by: SkepticOverAll
at January 6, 2009 9:17 AM
If only the main Western Tabloids had the bravery to post this article under an appropriate heading like "Islam in not a religion but a Death Cult"!
Wouldn't that be great?
Posted by: Richard the Lionheart
at January 6, 2009 9:25 AM
What an empty gesture. Is Israel accepting many immigrants from Iran? Are they going to get on boats and sail to Gaza? Ship off to Egypt and look for tunnels into Israel? Maybe parachute in? I would hope they try.
Posted by: FM
at January 6, 2009 9:28 AM
"What's Persian for 'Cannon Fodder?'"
The answer is of course, children (as in their own children, not necessarily minors. Although that has never stopped them either...)
Posted by: morguerat
at January 6, 2009 9:40 AM
How many of these martyrdom seekers will find their way into the USA and how many of them are already here?
Posted by: Spot on
at January 6, 2009 9:49 AM
Maybe some of them simply want out of Iran and see this as a way to get out, if they can escape their minders after they are out of Iran.
Posted by: 3812Michelle
at January 6, 2009 10:00 AM
What the heck do they mean by 'students'? Is that supposed to mean they're, like, intellectuals or something? Perhaps people the regime wants to get rid of?
Universities in Iran apparently exist mainly to print membership cards, that every Iranian citizen can claim to be 'student' of something.
Posted by: Henrik
at January 6, 2009 10:07 AM
Let us not lose sight of the fact that the Iranian regime are presiding over a demographic and economic mess. Their inflation rate is sky high, unemployment also, and they can offer no hope or prospects to the thousands of jobless youngsters all over the country.
Last time this happened, khomeini sent his surplus kiddies into the minefields during the war with Iraq. He gave them little plastic keys to the gates of heaven, and solved all his own problems at a stroke.
I'm not saying the regime does not treasure it's bright young people, just that they like the dead ones best.
Posted by: Monty
at January 6, 2009 10:08 AM
All this to get out of writing essays? Jeeeeezzzz....
Posted by: carpediadem
at January 6, 2009 10:29 AM
Is this going to be on ABC, CBS, or NBC tonight?
Posted by: darcy
at January 6, 2009 10:36 AM
A quick look at the U.S. Census Bureau's International Data Base is interesting. The population figures are broken down by age groups rather than by student status, but it's a safe bet that virtually all in the 5-9 and 10-14 groups are students, and that most in the 15-19 group are, and perhaps even a majority in the 20-24 group. So, to keep things simple, I'll assume that all four groups are "students".
Males in the 15-19 and 20-24 groups are the most likely "volunteers", and they total 7.7 million. So less than 1% are willing to be martyrs for Allah. Not very impressive. C'mon, all you Iranian youts, it's time to step up and make a hit (and take a hit) for Allah, Mohammed, and the Hidden Imam. You can do better than a measly 1%!
It's even more pitiful if one expands the group of likely candidates to include females and the 10-14 age group. These total 23.8 million, so only about 0.3% are willing to die for Allah. No religion at all, these kids!
It's also worth noting that for the ages 5-24 inclusive there are about 1.1 million more males than females. The indicates to me that the Iranians have aborting their female offspring in vastly disproportionate numbers. It also indicates that there are a lot of young fellows coming up that will have to do without. This will be a big problem for the regime in the not-so-distant future, and one way to reduce the problem is to send some of these randy young bucks off to commit suicide.
at January 6, 2009 11:00 AM
hamas leader stated israel closing of border started everything. quesiom; was egyptian/gaza border also closed?
Posted by: picket
at January 6, 2009 11:03 AM
These people will be brainwashed for generations to come.
Christopher Hamilton
The Right Opinion, for the Right Wing
at January 6, 2009 11:13 AM
Not all young Iranians are so fanatical and foolable:
http://www.memri.org/bin/latestnews.cgi?ID=SD217509
Posted by: Hugh
at January 6, 2009 11:13 AM
despite the meager signup for the Esteshhadi operations, thus far, it does indicate the desire of these youth to be #1, supreme.
we should not allow the Shiite cheerleaders to expand the intolerable supremacist ideal.
we should not be tolerating the dua qnoot addition to the salah here in the U.S. either. it serves to justify intolerable actions, once it's in the synaptic makeup of adherants ... serves to limit the imagination, eventually stunts growth and potential.
Posted by: boakai ngombu
at January 6, 2009 11:22 AM
Bumper sticker on the car of a proud Iranian parent: "My suicide-bomber just blew away your honor student."
Posted by: ebonystone
at January 6, 2009 11:36 AM
People - this Mohammedan has been awarded $240,000 for being forced to cover his t-shirt on the plane. Remember that?
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20090106/ts_alt_afp/ustransportairsecuritymuslimsrights_090106002219
Posted by: darcy
at January 6, 2009 11:38 AM
Bumper sticker on the car of a proud Iranian parent: "My suicide-bomber just blew away your honor student."
Posted by: ebonystone at January 6, 2009 11:36 AM
OMG. You really saw that? What part of the country, ebonystone? ( I assume you're in the USA).
Posted by: darcy
at January 6, 2009 11:39 AM
Re: the bumper sticker above.
I've decided that if I saw that on the road, I would take down the license plate # and report it to the cops.
Posted by: darcy
at January 6, 2009 11:43 AM
OMG. You really saw that? What part of the country, ebonystone? ( I assume you're in the USA).
Posted by: darcy
Darcy, I didn't mean to startle you so. No, I haven't really seen it. I should have noted that the sarcasm was "on". I meant it as an exaggeration of bumper-stickers that I have seen, reading: "My little brat just beat the crap out of your honor student"; and as the American equivalent of those Gazan mothers who proudly boasted on TV that two of their sons had carried out suicide attacks in Israel.
at January 6, 2009 11:50 AM
I am impressed by this story:
Escape from hamas:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Td8YdfNoPBk
Really, you should see it.
Posted by: witness
at January 6, 2009 11:58 AM
OMG! ebonystone - Look, I'm glad to hear it, but that's how bad things are that I believed it. Also, right, no sarcasm was apparent. No, I wouldn't put ANYTHING past the Mohammedans, including such a bumper sticker.
News from the UK: "There is no God" advertisements on the sides of buses in the UK.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/faith/article5459138.ece
Posted by: darcy
at January 6, 2009 12:00 PM
More than 70,000 students from universities throughout Iran..
I'm sure Ernst will not have anything to say about the sort of "academics" Iran turns out now. Like his award had nothing to do with Islam. (roll eyes)
Isn't it interesting that it is University students who are volunteering in such numbers?
Could it be that this is akin to the Woodstock days in America (with a twist) - "peace, love, brotherhood and martydom" - an outcome of aimless (as ebonystone alluded to), affluent, and spoiled kids? I wonder how many young men who are working will volunteer as they are needed by their families.
Is it a sign of how fundamentally Islamic the universities are, or that more fundamental Muslims attend universities? (My bet is on the first, I mean, how can they focus on poets like Rumi for 4+ years and come out jihadists?)
How fortunate, or Providential, that the the awards and the students' open letter coincided. Funny how that happens.
at January 6, 2009 12:06 PM
"So less than 1% are willing to be martyrs for Allah."
-by ebonystone
That's not something to take comfort in. We have to stop looking at relative numbers and look at the absolutes. 70,000 is still a large number. If just one percent of the 70,000 follow through that's seven hundred people. Assuming a world population of 1.3 billion Muslims, just one percent of that is 13 million. If just one percent of THAT group follows through, you have 130,000 people willing to kill anyone and everyone. Look what nineteen people did to the US in 2001.
Posted by: PMK
at January 6, 2009 12:08 PM
Bumper sticker on the car of a proud Iranian parent: "My suicide-bomber just blew away your honor student."
Posted by: ebonystone at January 6, 2009 11:36 AM
OMG. You really saw that? What part of the country, ebonystone? ( I assume you're in the USA).
Posted by: darcy
Wow, Darcy I have a bridge to sell you - LOL
Posted by: Richard
at January 6, 2009 12:11 PM
Look what nineteen people did to the US in 2001.
Posted by: PMK at January 6, 2009 12:08 PM
Look what Mohamet did to the civilized peoples of the world 1350 years ago.
*
Wow, Darcy I have a bridge to sell you - LOL
Posted by: Richard at January 6, 2009 12:11 PM
Your bridge and the mass-murdering Mohammedans with their Islamo-Nazi ideology have NOTHING in common.
Posted by: darcy
at January 6, 2009 12:16 PM
Now would be a good time to put Dearborn,Michigan UNDER THE SPOTLIGHT,IN EVERY WAY!
Posted by: CHOI
at January 6, 2009 12:21 PM
70,000 students? Wow, allah's demonic minions are out in full force -- duped demonic minions, that is.
Posted by: champ
at January 6, 2009 12:28 PM
CHOI - I believe you're talking about Dearbornistan. I always call it that now. Along with Londonistan and Hollandistan and Amsterdamistan. Horrible, isn't it?
Hi champ! Hope your New Year is going great. I mean aside from the horrors of the demonstrating Jew-Hating "Go Back to the Ovens" Islamo-Nazi Barbarians parading themselves around the world.
Posted by: darcy
at January 6, 2009 12:34 PM
Is 70,000 plus just the first tranche? How many more are willing to sign up? That is the great unanswered question. If over 700,000 Iranians were willing to give their lives in their war with Iraq, its a safe bet that 700,000 are willing to give their lives again. I doubt for one minute that the Iranians are less extremist, nor their will to die, has changed one bit over the last 20 years. I reckon they're just as fanatical and ready to die now as what they were during the Iran-Iraq War.
Posted by: Spirit Of 1683
at January 6, 2009 12:54 PM
Hey, darcy!
Yeah, my New Year has been great, thank you, especially since my hubby started his new job yesterday. Our youngest son is still home from college and leaves tomorrow, but of course he's busy catching up with old friends while he's home. Mom is only useful come time for dinner, LOL! At least his buddies enjoy my cooking, too, so good times for all.
Anyway, I can barely pull myself away from JW or Fox News given the situation with Israel and what's happening all over the world. The crazies are out in full force! What they're proposing to do with the Jews is INSANE!! My God, it's as if hell has opened up and it's occupants have emerged, and now they're running around in the streets and foaming at the mouth. Good God. What's next?
Posted by: champ
at January 6, 2009 12:55 PM
If the State of Iran allows this, nuke them. In any book of international law it is an act of war on Irans part.
Where is Columbia University's comments following this annoucement? Columbia drooled all over Pres. Amaja'jacket'....now the Iranian students are signing up to become suicide soldiers. What does Columbia and the student body have to say about their DISPROPORTIONATE use of students and citizens?
Posted by: alaskan1000
at January 6, 2009 1:01 PM
OT - but this breaking news is sure to cause a stir...
"Gaza Medics: At Least 40 Killed in Israeli Attack at UN School"
Now they're saying 30...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7814054.stm
It's not clear if this was an accident by the Israeli military or whether Hamas was using the "UN School" to hide. Most likely - it's the latter.
At any rate, children are *truly the most innocent* of victims. But their suffering is the direct result of the Hamas terrorist organization rooted in islam.
Hamas! Stop this aggression!
at January 6, 2009 1:06 PM
Robert,
Yes, there is a reward for those who defend with justice against agression and injustice, but what about this whole "suicide bomber" thing?
What does the Quran say about that?
Surat Al Baqra 2: 205
205 O ye who believe! Eat not up your property among yourselves in vanities: But let there be amongst you Traffic and trade by mutual good-will: Nor kill (or destroy) yourselves: for verily Allah hath been to you Most Merciful!
Surat Al Nisa 4:29
29 O ye who believe! Eat not up your property among yourselves in vanities: But let there be amongst you Traffic and trade by mutual good-will: Nor kill (or destroy) yourselves: for verily Allah hath been to you Most Merciful!
I guess reading and understanding the Quran wasn't one of the classes those 70,000 Iranian Students paid attention during.
Truth
Abdullah Mikail
at January 6, 2009 1:07 PM
Robert,
"2:205" a call out error...boy is my face red.
: )
Abdullah Mikail
Posted by: Abdullah Mikail
at January 6, 2009 1:09 PM
HELP WANTED: 5,040,000 Virgins
The PR Department forgot that part of the solicitation.
Posted by: desert dweller
at January 6, 2009 1:09 PM
They call them "martyrdom operations," of course, and to call them that is entirely Qur'anically correct in light of the verse that guarantees Paradise to those who "kill and are killed" for Allah (9:111).
I think it is invaluable to quote ad infinitum (as was done in this posting) the specific references to the Quran, Hadith, and Sira that form the backdrop and the basis for what Muslims are doing today. It will hopefully eventually have the desired and needed effect.
Posted by: staringattheview.blogspot.com
at January 6, 2009 1:11 PM
Your bridge and the mass-murdering Mohammedans with their Islamo-Nazi ideology have NOTHING in common.
Posted by: darcy
I'm sorry, I don't really have a bridge. Maybe we should have a special font for sarcasm so it's more recognizable.
Bumper Stickers
Other than my registration decal, I have only one sticker on my car - my parking sticker for work. Liberals love their bumper stickers, I suppose they think they can influence the world by slapping slogans on their cars. It makes for interesting reading at stop lights though.
Even though I'm not a bumper sticker aficionado, I would probably put some small symbol of support for Israel or this site on my car except for the fact that it would invite vandalism. And the vandalism would probably be more likely to come from a left wing infidel than a Muslim. There are better ways to oppose jihad than a sticker campaign, why make oneself a lightening rod for violence needlessly?
On the other hand, surreptitiously putting bumper stickers on other peeps cars can be fun. Just don't get caught. If someone really ticks me off, they may get a nice subtle NAMBLA sticker that they may not notice for days. Hah!
Posted by: Richard
at January 6, 2009 1:18 PM
"Anyway, I can barely pull myself away from JW or Fox News given the situation with Israel and what's happening all over the world. The crazies [read: Mohammedans] are out in full force! What they're proposing to do with the Jews is INSANE!! My God, it's as if hell has opened up and it's occupants have emerged, and now they're running around in the streets and foaming at the mouth. Good God. What's next?"
Posted by: champ at January 6, 2009 12:55 PM
Ditto. Ditto. Ditto.
Posted by: darcy
at January 6, 2009 1:18 PM
"Gaza Medics: At Least 40 Killed in Israeli Attack at UN School"
Now they're saying 30...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7814054.stm
-- from a poster above
But please note the meretriciousness of the BBC. Israel did not "attack" a "UN school." The building in question may have been described as a "UN school" but UNRWA is really an entirely Arab-staffed collaborator with the "Palestinians" with a handful of non-Arabs at the top to provide camouflage, such as that moral idiot John Ging.
Furthermore, that BBC title tricks you into thinking the Israelis just went and attacked "a school," a "UN school." No they didn't. That school building was full of young strapping males, and we will soon find out more about them. And in any case, a mortar from a tank, shot from far away, landed at the school. Is that the same thing as a deliberate attack? It may have been, or it may not have been. Given that Israel has been making superhuman efforts --those mass leaflettings, those computer-generated telephone calls warning even Hamas members to get away from apartments that are loaded with war materiel -- to minimize civilian casualties, and always has, while those who wish to destroy it, various groups of Muslim Arabs, whether it be the PLO in Lebanon in 1982(with those anti-aircraft guns placed on top of schools and hospitals), or Hezbollah hiding among civilians in southern Lebanon in 2006, or Hamas in these last ten days, it is very doubtful that Israel would have delibeately targetted the place unless it knew something solid about what, and who, was inside. No matter how much propapaganda, emanating from Hamas or its handmaiden, UNRWA, and then broadcast far and wide by the BBC and The Guardian (other handmaidens, further along the isnad-chain), long experience with both Israelis and Arabs teaches anyone to trust the former and mistrust, totally, the latter.
Posted by: Hugh
at January 6, 2009 1:19 PM
HELP WANTED: 5,040,000 Virgins --desert dweller
LOL! Thanks for a laugh amidst all of this Jew-Hating Mohammedan Islamo-Nazi nightmare.
Posted by: darcy
at January 6, 2009 1:21 PM
HELP WANTED: 5,040,000 Virgins
The PR Department forgot that part of the solicitation.
Posted by: desert dweller
-----------------------------------------
This post goes into the HOF. :-)
at January 6, 2009 1:21 PM
"More than 70,000 students from universities throughout Iran have signed up on the list to conduct 'Esteshhadi' (martyrdom seeking)operations."
How many students from universities in the U.S. have signed up?
Posted by: Isabellathecrusader
at January 6, 2009 1:26 PM
Bumper Stickers
Other than my registration decal, I have only one sticker on my car - my parking sticker for work. Even though I'm not a bumper sticker aficionado, I would probably put some small symbol of support for Israel or this site on my car except for the fact that it would invite vandalism. --Richard
I've long had a "DefeatJihad/JihadWatch.org sticker on my vehicle. In fact, it's time to remove that old one and slap on a new one. I'm going to do that this week when my "Christians for Israel" stickers I ordered online last week arrive.
You can find those at cafepress, christians for israel
I've never had anything happen to my vehicle, but I also don't reside in a highly-populated metropolis containing all sorts of diverse groups. Like, I don't live in Dearbornistan, you know.
However, we do have a big picture window looking out to the street. I have thought how if a Mohammedan saw my stickers and followed me, he wouldn't hesitate to throw a brick through it. Oh, I have no doubt that would happen, because the Q mandates violence against Kuffars and even rewards them for it with the 72 virgin Paradise. So, you're right, you do have to be careful. They are savages, and know no boundaries concerning Freedom of Speech.
Posted by: darcy
at January 6, 2009 1:32 PM
"Yes, there is a reward for those who defend with justice against agression and injustice, but what about this whole "suicide bomber" thing?"
"What does the Quran say about that?"
Surat Al Nisa 4:29
29 O ye who believe! Eat not up your property among yourselves in vanities: But let there be amongst you Traffic and trade by mutual good-will: Nor kill (or destroy) yourselves: for verily Allah hath been to you Most Merciful!
"I guess reading and understanding the Quran wasn't one of the classes those 70,000 Iranian Students paid attention during.
Posted by: Abdullah Mikail at January 6, 2009 1:07 PM
Apparently not. Miraculously, you have discovered another 70,000 misunderstanders of Islam, Abby.
Apparently, another prminent Islamic scholar and nioted misunderstander of Islam, Yusuf al Qaradawi has sanctioned women suicide bombers as rightful martyrs as well.
Posted by: awake
at January 6, 2009 1:33 PM
So who's lying?
The mullah-shill at the Students' Organization, or all those expats who continually assure us that Iranians are ever-so-ready to dump the theocracy and all the Islamic murder and mayhem that comes with it?
Or perhaps the question should be phrased, "Who's lying *more*?"
Posted by: Marwan'sDaughter
at January 6, 2009 1:38 PM
Bumper Stickers
I live in Los Angeles. We have at least two of everyone, and at least one of them is already pissed off. So no bumper stickers for me. I spread the word by talking to people. Not close-minded people; that leads to an argument rather than a discussion. But uninformed people, they make great candidates for engaging in discussion. I have turned lots of friends and colleagues on to this site. The first step is to get the point made that jihad and Islamification are real threats. A second step is to point out how to recognize less obvious forms of jihad. Another important step is to dispel the notion that being Islamo-aware equates to racism.
I've been visiting this site for perhaps 6 months or more and I'm on my third book of Robert's. I have enough knowledge in my head for pretty detailed discussions with folks that know near nothing about Islam and jihad. I have a way to go before I'm ready for a heated debate with someone with an opposing viewpoint.
In general I sense an increasing level of awareness to the threat.
Posted by: Richard
at January 6, 2009 1:46 PM
AM -- you must feel as foolish as you look. I would think that you would want to lay low. Lay low for a very long while. Your posts only make us laugh. At you.
Posted by: champ
at January 6, 2009 1:49 PM
Quick! Get the student visas ready! Roll out the red carpets!
Posted by: Ummah Gummah
at January 6, 2009 2:20 PM
hey AM when do you go to Gaza to die as a "martyr"
Posted by: Péguy
at January 6, 2009 2:23 PM
I, for one, would be impressed if the 70,000 suicide killers would commit suicide first and THEN try to kill some Israeli soldiers.
Talk about your miracles!
Maybe AM would like to give it a shot! I would really be impressed.
You mean to tell me that Allah is incapable of miracles?
Posted by: tanstaafl
at January 6, 2009 2:26 PM
AM -- you must feel as foolish as you look. I would think that you would want to lay low. Lay low for a very long while. Your posts only make us laugh. At you.
Posted by: champ
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Way to call him out Champ. I've done the same with him/her other times. (as have others)
AM always gets frustrated with his/her inability to reconcile with the truth or match wits. You're absolutely correct, AM is entertaining.
I sometimes think that AM simply enjoys stirring things up here and really does know that he/she can't defend his/her views or logic. Yet there are other times when he/she really does seem to try before being unable to reconcile with the truth and going away.
Posted by: The Cool Ghoul
at January 6, 2009 2:36 PM
Emagine the outcry from the mainstream media if Israel announced that 70,000 Jews signed up for suicide missions aimed at the Islamic world. There wouldn't be any end to demonstrations and meetings of the security council, not to mention the moral indignation of of Christian leaders in the West.
Posted by: rational
at January 6, 2009 2:50 PM
I sometimes think that AM simply enjoys stirring things up here and really does know that he/she can't defend his/her views or logic. Yet there are other times when he/she really does seem to try before being unable to reconcile with the truth and going away.
Posted by: The Cool Ghoul
Cool Ghoul, you left out the part where his (Michael before his brain rotted) posts degenerate into name-calling temper tantrums. Then he goes away, for a while.
Posted by: Richard
at January 6, 2009 2:56 PM
It's because of Abdullah/Mike's guilt. When the wound reopens, that's when he goes away.
Posted by: Isabellathecrusader
at January 6, 2009 3:01 PM
Abdullah Mikkail:
Quran said you Muslim men can have sex with babies Quran 65:4. Will you do it little girls or boys? Allah approves. Since you have accepted Islam you are entitled to blow us up, have sex with babies, call us pigs and apes, call Dr. King a coward, and call black women stupid.
All in the name of Allah. AIN'T YOU SPECIAL!
at January 6, 2009 3:04 PM
Richard,
I stand corrected. Yes - the tantrums. They are entertaining... as well as revealing. To me they're sort of like the grand finale at the 4th of July fireworks celebration.
At first, AM tries to appear civil and measured. (as if he could fool anybody) But once the frustration begins, the tantrums soon follow.
As they say, the empty drum makes the most noise.
at January 6, 2009 3:06 PM
Abdullah Mikail
You're citing an earlier sura to overturn Sura Nine, the final word on everything, while ignoring an ayat practically adjoining the one you cite. No wonder there are 70,000 of them and one of you.
002.106 YUSUFALI: None of Our revelations do We abrogate or cause to be forgotten, but We substitute something better or similar: Knowest thou not that Allah Hath power over all things?
...but logic or consistency apparently...
So in their minds 9.111 trumps 2.205 and *al-kaboom*. But it's nice you haven't decided to commit mass murder, yet. Thanks oodles.
Posted by: Beagle
at January 6, 2009 3:09 PM
nGUMBO:
You must be a sunni. All the umma. All are guilty and especially African Muslims. You all allowed the Arab Muslims to invent Swahili and forced you to bow to Allah their moon god. African had their own moon god, named NOD. Your litttle girls are dying from FGM and having babies at such a young age because some Arab told you so. How stupid as allah said. Tabari 1:280.
Why don't you allow women to come here and you naive men stay in your egotistical stupor. Arabs call you ugly, raisin head, and pug nosed abeeds.
God created you black to be slaves to whites is in your ahadiths. ARE YOU CRAZY!
at January 6, 2009 3:10 PM
Awwwww ... c'mon AM. Please come back. We miss your convoluted thinking and tortured logic.
Folks - we mustn't challenge AM too directly or else he might leave for good. Then we won't have his remarks to entertain us.
Truth!
Posted by: The Cool Ghoul
at January 6, 2009 3:51 PM
Happens every time there is an international crises: x-number of thousands of Iranian "students" signing themselves up as potential martyrs....designed to "strike terror" in the hearts of infidels.
(Yawn)
Posted by: Cornelius
at January 6, 2009 5:08 PM
Hey, maybe they'll model themselves after Monty Python's Crack Suicide Squad!
BTW, I'm glad to see that the TypePad problems have been solved. Thank you to whomever is responsible!
Posted by: Eastview
at January 6, 2009 5:25 PM
The last time I heard about these 'volunteers', there were 40,000 of them. Now their numbers have grown to 70,000.
Probably all these numbers are exaggerated.
But there still may be enough of them to be a problem...
at January 6, 2009 5:27 PM
LOL the directer of public relations huh whens the last time we seen one of those announce the support of suicide bombers.
When you think muslims could get no sicker they always manage to top it amazing.
Makes ya wonder what irans commisioner of human rights thinks doesn't it time to regroup and defeat out of the u.n. out of all world governering bodies.
at January 6, 2009 5:38 PM
DESERT DO NOT LAUGH BROTHER THERES PROBABLY 40 MILLON DHIMMI WESTERN BIMBOS READY TO SERVE I KNOW AN ISRAELI JEW JUST GOT PREGNANT BY A MUSLIM SAYING WELL HES NOT LIKE OTHER MUSLIMS LOL.
Posted by: spcbat
at January 6, 2009 5:45 PM
Obviously not much of a future for an individual living in Islam.
Oh wait! I forgot. There aren't individuals -- just the "collective".
And what a collection they are.
Posted by: Aiken Bryce
at January 6, 2009 6:27 PM
tilly
contrary to what you seem to imply, i do not entrust my being to Allah. The so-called Merciful, isn't.
i am concerned that the locals in the US mosques are getting hyped for blasting by a little addition to their prayer rigor. the adherants will off themselves and others in a rather absent minded fashion.
back in the JW archives of 31 Dec you'll find two examples of the hype. read 'em an' weep.
Posted by: boakai ngombu
at January 6, 2009 6:42 PM
"Iran boasts: 70,000 students have signed up to kill themselves in mass-murder operations"
A feat accomplished by Iran's state-of-the-art Islamic academic curriculum...
Posted by: jsla
at January 6, 2009 6:51 PM
Don't they have just a regular old military? Can't people sign up to just fight for Islamonazism, or do they have to kill themselves? Civilized nations have GI Bills so that people can fight and then live to get a real education.
Ebonystone, this is the Muslim world. People graduate from "college" at 18 at the oldest. The majority of Iranian students are women, btw (according to that horrid study in moral equivalence, Christiane Amanpour's 'God's Warriors'), 60%. These are kids, not people in their 20s. People in their 20s are supposed to have long since been married and have a few kids already, not that that's how it goes these days because of Islamic poverty and the institution of marriage-as-prostitution/sex slavery. Most of them are too young to drive.
The way it works in the Muslim world is that kids graduate from secondary school around the age at which kids in the free world are entering secondary school (why not, when all there is to know is language, math and the Koran?), and then college lasts for three years. Muslims don't believe in usury but they believe in socialism, so the state usually pays one's tuition and they really have to be done in 3 years. Hardly anyone could afford to actually pay for college. No. Parents in the Muslim world just try to have as many kids as they can rather than trying to provide the kids they have with good teeth and a college education. I blame not just Islam, but socialism for this. When people get stuff for free they will always try to abuse the system. We're seeing the fruits of this in the demographic boom in all these nations. These societies must be isolated and forced to implode because of their own irresponsibility, lest they spread this to our world and parasitize us.
Then they start teaching. This is why I know Egyptians who speak maybe 80 words of English and can't conjugate 'do' and 'be' in simple constructions, but who claim to have taught English at the college level. I believe them, as it explains volumes. High-school-age kids who think the earth is flat teach at the college level in the Muslim world. This, among other obvious reasons, is why no scholarship of any value has come from the Muslim world.
Iran may be a little better. I hold them in higher esteem I do than the rest of the Muslim world and like to think that they're going through a (more) regressive phase under this unpopular leadership.
Also, Ebonystone, the difference between men and women, demographically, can't be due to abortion. First, I seriously doubt that they even have genetic testing in Iran. Nosejobs are about as advanced as they get. Second, where do you think they're getting abortions? If anything, women are dying getting illegal abortions, not selectively aborting girls. It could also be female genital mutilation (1/3 of girls who undergo it die and Iran has a lot of Kurds) or childhood pregnancy which accounts for that. Oh, and honor killing.
Think of how many of these people could have blown themselves up in Iraq, killing two birds with one stone, if only we weren't such bleeding-heart, nancy bitches. May they all predetonate.
at January 6, 2009 10:05 PM
http://www.themodernreligion.com/ugly/unholy.html
Hundreds of Iranians boys at a time, many as young as ten to twelve, come in waves. Some carry rifles and some are unarmed. Their mission is to detonate mines and draw fire in preparation for full-scale attacks Iraqi lines. The boys carry plastic keys to heaven. They have been assured by their leader, Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, that if they are killed on the battlefield they will go directly to paradise. "The purest joy in Islam," Khomeini has explained, "is to kill and be killed for Allah."
Posted by: dsinc
at January 7, 2009 12:47 AM
Ugumbo
Thank you for responding in the positive!
Black converts in the West think the new Arab dress and language is hip dont know one thing about true Islam and slavery. Slavery is Islamic and they hate whites who freed them. Africa is still in Islamic bondage.
Muslims are converting black convicts to blow up America and the PC patrol think that Islam is a religion. Islam is nothing but Arab imperialism, proof is that all change names to Arab names, try to read Arabic, and most cant even speak English well, dress like 7th century Arabs, while the Arabs are being educated the black are being conned. Islam is not a black man's religion, but a moon god with statues located in the museums of London. Sabeans were the Arabs who made the Kaaba, Ramadam, Hajj, Eid and all rites used by Muslims.
Psalms 83 shows that Ishmaelites and other Arabs were the ones who wanted the Jews dead and put into the sea way back then, same as Hamas today. They never quit. Muhammad made the Muslims promise to allow no other religion in Arabia except Islam. that is the REAL reason they want Israel out of Arabia.
Again, thanks for defending the black woman!
at January 7, 2009 7:20 AM
Also, Ebonystone, the difference between men and women, demographically, can't be due to abortion. First, I seriously doubt that they even have genetic testing in Iran. Nosejobs are about as advanced as they get. Second, where do you think they're getting abortions? If anything, women are dying getting illegal abortions, not selectively aborting girls. It could also be female genital mutilation (1/3 of girls who undergo it die and Iran has a lot of Kurds)
posted by jdamn
jd, fetus sex test kits are available over-the-counter for home use; this isn't genetic testing. Where are they getting abortions? Well from the same places women got them for generations before they became unrestricted in the Western countries. One doesn't need a special clinic to get an abortion, there have always been mid-wives, and wise-women, and women willing to try home-made procedures in private. True, these often created health problems, and some women died from them. This was one of the arguments used by the feminists arguing for legalized abortion: that fewer women would die from complications. Of course the feminists greatly inflated the numbers.
Also, the population pyramids don't bear out your theory; even in the 0-4 and 5-9 age brackets, there is a 10-15% larger number of males than females. Girls this young aren't dying from botched illegal abortions. Their numbers are lower because they've been selectively aborted.
As for FGM, the Kurds make up only 7% of the Iranian population.
"Parents in the Muslim world just try to have as many kids as they can .... We're seeing the fruits of this in the demographic boom in all these nations."
posted by jdamn
jd, in Iran the population "boom" is about to bust. The natural rate of increase is falling, and will fall further in the coming decades. It's presently at 0.8%/yr. The 2008 population is ca. 66 million; it's expected to grow to only 81 million by 2050. By way of contrast, the current population of Afghanistan is 34 million; by 2050 it will be greater than Iran.
at January 7, 2009 10:15 AM
Well, ain't that special?
Posted by: Stormwarning
at January 7, 2009 5:11 PM
The droves of volunteers, that is...
Posted by: Stormwarning
at January 7, 2009 5:37 PM


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