Is anyone surprised? Cowardice and gutlessness ares synonymous with islam.

Just think of those really "macho" warlords putting on burqas to avoid capture in Afghanistan. Just think of how they use their hands only to fight women, since they would engage in fights against other men ONLY if they could get their hands on their AK-47s first.

And just think of how those swines abuse children in every possible way imaginable, in order to follow the example of their beloved desert pedophile (may eternal torment be upon his rear end.)

There's really no surprise here. There's only islam.

Posted by: Proud_Kafir7908 at January 12, 2009 2:36 AM

I wonder how long it will take for those fire crackers to turn into suicide vests up in Oslo? Sad, just sad. Compare and contrast the Jewish rallies, and the Palestinian rallies. It is very telling.

Posted by: ethoman at January 12, 2009 2:45 AM

never, never ever try to take my second amendment rights away. long live the second amendment! i give you the gun, you got the gun, well f--- that.

Posted by: oppressiondetester at January 12, 2009 2:54 AM

something has to be done.
it wont be long before europe starts having to deal with what israel is dealing.
although britanistan has a nice ring.
its time to stop islam!!!

Posted by: joshua at January 12, 2009 3:06 AM

Look at the women in the crowd. They look as though they just reek of ignorance. Truly sad. Islam has done so much damage to the average everyday Muslim.

Hopefully one day they will come to understand the fact that it is Islam that is the "true enemy" of Muslim people.

This crisis is making alot of things plainly obvious.

-Nick.C, ex-muslim

Posted by: Nick.C at January 12, 2009 3:12 AM

A MUSLIM TERRORIST = a Muslim who has not renounced the 653 hateful, murderous hadith that Jamal al Banna, brother of Muslim Brotherhood founder Hassan al Banna, says inspire Muslims worldwide to commit mass murder and crimes against women and children.

The Norwegian politicians who pander to such Muslim terrorists are quislings. They have no moral authority, and should be prosecuted for auto-genocide and treason. The question now is what is the punishment, and who administers it? Do Norwegians have to resort to what was done to Mussolini at the end of WWII? (Clearly a spontaneous act of indignation by the people which should normally remain outside the law except in the most desperate of circumstances, when law has failed).

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=al+banna+653&aq=f&oq=

Posted by: Max Publius at January 12, 2009 3:38 AM

One of the dirtiest tricks in the book that the Islamics are using now, is and always have been the use of children as human shields as you can see on that youtube video, shows you how they value the lives and well being of their children, this should be considered Child endangerment and be taken away from their Islamic parents that would used them as human shields in their Islamic protests.

Posted by: Bobby at January 12, 2009 3:49 AM

It also works for the IDF.

The Israeli supreme court has been trying to get them to stop using palestinian TEENAGERS to knock on militant homes.

But the IDF still uses this technique.

But we don't talk about that on Jihad Watch, because that's not how propaganda works.

:)

Posted by: amir meshkin at January 12, 2009 4:02 AM

Liar amir!

But even if they did, If it helps to save just one Israeli life I hope they keep knocking!

Posted by: sheik yer'mami at January 12, 2009 4:21 AM

and I bet you know all about propaganda don't you amir

Posted by: MillMouse at January 12, 2009 4:43 AM

Hey amir,

What about the "Palestinian" supreme court? What do they rule for or against? Oh, that's right, there is no "Palestinian" supreme court.

That would be because there's little sign of civilisation amongst these "Palestinians" who follow Hamas to kill all the Jews and believe in the idea of destroying Israel.

I'd suggest you'd look for a better argument than talking legalities because Israel actually has a workable legal system compared with the "Palestinians" whose system of justice extends to just shooting people they disagree with. That's some fine justice, isn't it?

Posted by: efoc at January 12, 2009 5:31 AM

The amir above, such a prince of a Muslim guy, is trying to pull a fast one here.

Using a relative to bang on the door of a jihadi in a war zone make some sense, given that even a jihadi should rather surrender than allow a civilian to be harmed when it is clear the jihadi is captured in all but deed. If they know you're in there, then come out with your hands up. Shooting it out is fine, if you're alone and will to take the consequences alone. But the jihadis would rather not surrender, preferring instead the whore-house of Janna. So they shoot or bomb or whatever, taking with them the door-knocker too. Amir isn't getting this or isn't getting across that it's a matter of reciprocity, this matter of "rights." The IDF don't demand the jihadi kill his relative. They say, if you don't surrender, if instead you intend to fight it out, you'll only kill your relative, not us.

So, I like to think I won that propaganda spat. What's my prize and when can I cash it in?

Posted by: dag at January 12, 2009 5:39 AM

Excellent summary articles on the theological and historic understanding of the concept of Islamic military Jihad are: Jihad in the Modern World by Dr. Sherman Jackson from Michigan University and Jihad is Not Perpetual Warfare by Imam Zaid Shakir of the Zaytuna Institute. Sherman Jackson shows how before the 18th/19th century, most empires existed in a “kill or be killed” situation where the default for a state was a “state of war” and peace treaties were the exception and temporary. This is why most doctors of the law favoured an expansionist interpretation of the Qur’anic Jihad. However recently a “state of peace” has been created and most modern theologians and legal scholars have accepted that the normal state of affairs between Muslim and non-Muslim states is peace; Wahba Zuhayli (b. 1932) and Rashid Rida (d. 1935) are examples of well-known Muslim theologians who have espoused this view. Zaid Shakir shows the Qur’an is open to interpretation and although an expansionist interpretation did have functional relevance for the Rashidun caliphs and the Umayyads from the period 634 to 740, the fragile nature of an “imperial overstretch” stopped it at its tracks (as it did with the Ottomans). A non-expansionist purely defensive understanding of the Qur’anic Jihad appears to be more in conformity with early teachings of Jihad (e.g. by the quietist Abd Allah b. Umar (d. 693)) and a proper reading of scriptural exegesis (see Shakir above). The Qur’anic justification for fighting (e.g. in 22:39, 2:194, 4:75) is in defence of the oppressed and against hostility. Dr. Ramadan Buti (b. 1929) in his Jihad in Islam shows how the dominant juristic view has been that hostility and oppression (haraba) is the ratio legis for war, not disbelief (kufr). Two late Qur’anic verses clearly express this view: “God forbiddeth you not those who warred not against you on account of religion and drove you not out from your homes, that ye should show them kindness and deal justly with them. Lo! God loveth the just dealers” (60:8) and “But if the enemy incline towards peace, do thou (also) incline towards peace, and trust in God” (8:61). Islamic terrorism violates almost every historical and legal requirement of a legal Jihad e.g. the need for a central authority or Imam, the explicit Qur’anic prohibition of suicide, the explicit prophetic prohibition of killing civilians, women and children, the explicit prophetic prohibition of destroying trees and using fire to kill. Islamic law in fact has a long developed tradition in dealing with terrorism (which only became part of the legal lexicon in the west during the early twentieth century) in the concept of "hiraba" (see: Sherman Jackson, Domestic Terrorism in the Islamic Legal Tradition, 2000) For good legal refutations of modern Islamic terrorism, see Afifi Atiki's fatwa. Islamic terrorism is a modern phenomenon and advocates are rarely found to be rooted to tradition. There is in fact one modern interpretation of Jihad, that of Mawlana Wahiduddin Khan of Delhi (b. 1925), that states Jihad is a premodern phenomenon and modern warfare that involves mass mobilisation of populations and the loss of the chivalric virtue in one-to-one fighting is unimaginable to the Islamic mind – in some ways he is correct but in opposition to most modern jurists who do extend righteous Jihad into the modern era in places like Bosnia.

Posted by: muzdawij at January 12, 2009 7:17 AM

Normal people take their children to parks, beaches, zoos, amusement parks, fairs, carnivals and anything else; basically normal individuals want children to be children.

Then there are these guys.........can't this be seen as a form of child abuse?

No wonder their view of the world is so distorted when their parents are so messed up they would take their children into a "Hate" rally.

-Ayo Gorkhali

Posted by: Gorkhali at January 12, 2009 7:20 AM

Hi,
It is only Jihadies who cover their faces. Predator attacks in FATA normally kill Pakistani women and children married to Ymenies and Arabs.But they wail as civilian casualties.
The following Pakistani link is very interesting with regard to jihad.
http://www.brasstacks.pk/brasstacks/Home/tabid/36/Default.aspx

Posted by: captain at January 12, 2009 7:26 AM

CRIME AND PUNISHMENT

Max Publius: “The Norwegian politicians who pander to such Muslim terrorists are quislings. … The question now is what is the punishment, and who administers it? Do Norwegians have to resort to what was done to Mussolini at the end of WWII? (Clearly a spontaneous act of indignation by the people which should normally remain outside the law except in the most desperate of circumstances, when law has failed).”

It might be difficult do what the Norwegians used to do with traitors, prior to being taken over by islamofascism?

In October 1945, eponymous Nazi collaborator Vidkun Quisling, former Minister of defence, was shot at Oslo’s Akershus Fortress for high treason.

By the time of his death, the Nazi collaborator had already given his surname to English and other languages as a synonym for traitor.

Just deserts for his efforts as chief of the fascist party Nasjonal Samling to aid the Nazi conquest of his home country.

Quisling interrupted a radio broadcast on April 9, 1940 to proclaim himself Prime Minister and order cooperation with invading Germans.

History seems to repeat itself in a strange way. The only difference is that the quislings are now the PC types in power who prosecute those who criticize multiculturalism and Islam.

What a brave new world!

Posted by: Ipso Facto at January 12, 2009 8:27 AM

That one woman putting a child down right in the midst of the scuffle as if the child were no more than a bundle of newspapers, was shocking and horrifying! The use of the other children was simply unconscionable. Those are really bad people. islam, the religion of peace! Those muslims started the hateful, threatening protests, provoked the violence, then, as they have so artfully done in recent past, tried to creat the impression that they are the victims via injuries to their children. The ploy, I think (hope), as of this video, will begin to show the world just how nasty, vicious, and uncompromising the sub human nature of islam is. Muslim are not of humanity, they are about the glorification and deification of suffering, eternal pain, punishment as entertainment. They are monsters!

Posted by: nobulsht at January 12, 2009 8:28 AM

Amir Meshkin, the Muhammadan drone, in a previous thread asked the following:

I would LOVE for any of you idiots, to find ONE, JUST ONE, verse in Islam where raping and killing people of another race is permitted.

Wow what a challenge, one verse where killing and raping is proscribed in Islam.

Here you go Amir, here's two one from Mein Qurampf, the other from the Hadith.

"Fight against such as those to whom the Scriptures were given [Jews and Christians]...until they pay tribute out of hand and are utterly subdued." (Surah 9:29)

"The Day of Resurrection will not arrive until the Moslems make war against the Jews and kill them, and until a Jew hiding behind a rock and tree, and the rock and tree will say: 'Oh Moslem, oh servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him!'"(Sahih Bukhari 004.52.176)

Please give us some more Muhammadan-apologist boiler plate, I am bored and don't have much going on right now, so I could do with a laugh.

Posted by: km at January 12, 2009 8:39 AM

A picture is worth a thousand words...

Islamic apologists and fellow travelers can deny all they want, but their dastardly, depraved, and often deadly deeds, are recorded for all to see.

That's not the cream rising to the top that you see, it's infected material oozing to the surface.

Islam is pure fury under a very thin veil.

The veil is wearing thin...So is my patience...

Posted by: duh_swami at January 12, 2009 9:27 AM

But another clear and disgusting example that there is no moral equivalency in Islam in comparison to Judao/Christian Values, though the ignorance of the consummate narrow minded dhimmi somehow sees it otherwise no matter how obvious and blatant it is.

If this same approach to a demonstration of this kind should occur in America within what any reasonably intelligent person clearly recognizes as a potentially dangerous situation for children. There are clear laws that should be enforced under child statues. Law enforcement,if they are doing their job correctly would be required to apply child endangerment laws and should arrest anyone who has brought a child into such a situation. Child abuse is one of the most serious crimes in America

Posted by: Mackie at January 12, 2009 9:38 AM

It also works for the IDF.

The Israeli supreme court has been trying to get them to stop using palestinian TEENAGERS to knock on militant homes.

But the IDF still uses this technique.

But we don't talk about that on Jihad Watch, because that's not how propaganda works.

:)

Posted by: amir meshkin at January 12, 2009 4:02 AM

They do? Is that true?

Well, what do you know about that ... hmmmm.

At least the teenagers aren't wearing suicide vests when they work with the IDF like they have to do when the work for hamas -- isn't that right amir?

You know, I really think the IDF needs to finish the job in Gaza. Perhaps they can clean-up Paris, London, and Oslo afterwards.

The local authorities don't seem to know what to do with murdering thugs that hide behind kids -- the IDF seems to have a clue that they probably learned from hamas in the first place!

Posted by: witness at January 12, 2009 9:52 AM

Child abuse...

Many parents are either too stupid or apathetic to understand that 'any protest/demonstration' could get violent and is no place for children.

Unless of course you want to use them as shields and/or political statements...Either way, it is using children as weapons. Islam is adept at that.

Leave the children at home...

Posted by: duh_swami at January 12, 2009 9:56 AM

It is clear that the Muslim children are being taught to hate at an early age....

Posted by: pulsar182 at January 12, 2009 10:55 AM

Max, I love you, but they'd have to renounce the Koran too. They renounce Hadiths whenever it's convenient.

Amir, you mean the same court that Hamas put these people before?

As for the prohibition on rape, try K 2:23, which sanctions the rape of one's own daughters, sisters, bought sex slaves ("wives"), and abducted sex slaves. Also, please explain to me how, since all Muslim forced sex slavery ("marriage") is carried out under threat of death, how a single Muslim has ever had legal, consentual sex, because it seems impossible to me. But then again, you monsters use one word ("nikah") to refer interchangeably to sex, sex slavery, rape,incest, and child molestation, and then you have the nerve to disingenuously translate it as "marriage."

Nick C., you know that ignorance is part of sex slavery. How knowledgeable does a walking vagina have to be? And how has any Muslim woman ever amounted to anything more than a vagina in practice? Please, nobody throw Benazir Bhutto's disgraceful and illegitimate legacy at me. That's only "amounting to something" by regressive Islamic standards.

Muz, you know full-well that Perv Mo ordered the massacres of civilians over and over. Take your taqiyya elsewhere. We're literate folks in here.

Muslims think that raping and killing their own children and pimping them into incestuous, pedophilic sex slavery is extremely pious behavior. How is is this video surprising?

Posted by: jdamn at January 12, 2009 11:45 AM

A poster commenting recently upon the January 10 Hamas demonstrations in Toronto expressed surprise and disgust at the presence of small children. This video shows that it is hardly an isolated phenomenon. And note the fireworks thrown carelessly (or deliberately?) by the pro-Hamas demonstrators, so as to blow up in front of the kids. One can draw all sorts of conclusions about that, none of them good for the Hamas supporters.

Posted by: Chatillon at January 12, 2009 12:12 PM

One tactic they could have tried, would have been to have the police grab the children in the front rank and take them away for their own protection.

Once taken, their parents would have to appear in front of a magistrate to answer for why they chose to put their children in a dangerous situation. Meanwhile the children would be given a full medical exam for signs of abuse, particularly female genital mutilation. The parents would then be charged with any abuse found.

Do this just once, and the practice would cease.

Posted by: PapaBear at January 12, 2009 12:18 PM

jdamn,

I agree, the Koran is highly problematic as well, but it seems to me it would be much easier for Muslims to begin to evaluate the Koran critically if they take the first step of crossing out hadiths?

My point is, it's not me, but the expert Jamal al Banna, who is saying BAN these murderous, hateful hadith. He has listed 653 of them. He is being very specific, and his credentials as a Muslim scholar are extremely significant. He is not saying reinterprete, or modify them; he is saying extirpate these hadith from future printings, because they are false, counterfeit impostures. I wish al Banna included parts of the Koran, but he didn't.

When Muslim clerics no longer have the power to enslave millions of people to a false theology by using threats of death and dismemberment, then Hamas, et al will die a natural death, held in complete contempt by the people it once held hostage, both literally and figuratively.

Posted by: Max Publius at January 12, 2009 12:39 PM

I feel a little compelled to reply in general. I don't really see where the mother is trying to use her child as a human shield. I think that she is just pulling the kid back because they were about to be separated. Ever been to an open market in the middle east? It's so congested people always pull each other around like that. It's just customary for those recent immigrants to be roughshod with their own children.

That said, why in hell were they there in the first place? Even a "walking vagina," as Jdamn puts it, should know better then to bring children to a demonstration that was PLANNED to be violent. And I say planned because of the firecrackers going off.

So maybe the kid wasn't a "human shield," but the islamists were LOOKING to have their children in harms way for propaganda reasons.

What the police did was wrong! They let them ALL walk away. They should've cordoned the area off and arrested them all, including children, because of the incendiary devices. Do they not know their jobs? This will only escalate in terms of violence and sheer numbers. The police need to be trained appropriately.

Ignorance. There is ignorance on both sides. The police and those women and children full of hate.

And it seems to be an encompassing oblivious ignorance that both sides have LEARNED. Therefore, they will NEVER unlearn it. Hey Oslostan! Good luck with Norwrabia!

Posted by: lorfalcon at January 12, 2009 12:52 PM

Max, forget trying to reform Islam. Nothing, not one part of it, is remotely salvageable. Just as there is no kinder, gentler Nazism, so there is no kinder, gentler Islam. Do you really think that denying - and that's what it is, allowing Muslims to deny what's inconvenient for them - 1/10th of Islam's evil will change Sharia? Doubtful. Isolate them and let them kill each other. The misogyny in the Koran alone makes Islam completely intolerable and incompatible with the UDHR.

Posted by: jdamn at January 12, 2009 3:02 PM

This is Eurabia at it's best. Like other said above, these women looked so ignorant it's not even funny. It's truly sad to see Western Europe getting "liberated" by the Muslims. This is 21st century Islamic Imperialism.

What is more sad is that the "politically correct" European Governments are not only turning a blind eye but also helping these Muslims to build their Mosques, their schools, and subsidize these "poor colorful immigrants" so much that these hateful people could afford to send their children back to Islamic countries to get brainwashed in Radical Islamic schools.

I guess these Western Europeans are so preoccupied of hating the USA then realizing that they are digging a huge grave for themselves!

Such irony..

Posted by: Fobulous at January 12, 2009 5:29 PM

jdamn,
Can't say I disagree. I've practically said the same at various times. At the same time, deconstructing Islam one brick, or hadith, at a time is another legitimate avenue of attack. Islam is hard but brittle. Fracturing the monolith causes the entire structure to collape into rubble.

Posted by: Max Publius at January 12, 2009 8:25 PM

Robert,
Youtube is at it again
My account, the one with the "Children as shields in violent Oslo Anti Israel protest" video , was blocked by youtube. It will most probably be deleted in a few weeks/days:
http://www.youtube.com/user/vasileOmFrumos
I cant login anymore, until the end of the mounth and it will be deleted for sure soon. Pamela Geller, Baron, Gatewaypundit and some others started posting clips from this account in the last few days. I will move to liveleak, most probably
Costin

Posted by: costin at January 12, 2009 9:56 PM

Why would they worry about thier children? There are so many more where they came from.

Posted by: Carol at January 12, 2009 10:37 PM

Well, they know our 'comfort lines' and can push our buttons pretty easily. Until something happens to force us to think not react, it will work. It's sort of like the little kid in the suicide vest who goes running at troops. It only takes one to get the 'shoot first and ask questions later' reaction. Unfortunate for the genuinely friendly kids, no?

Given the prophet's direction to lie when convenient, I am not even sure how Robert Spencer's suggested Islamic Exclusion Act could be implemented even if we could get it past Constitutional scrutiny.

The best defense I can envision is teaching our children a greater pride in their nation's history to start and a bit more information how Islam really does see the world and them :) Nothing like a bit of offended pride to stiffen resolve.

Posted by: LibertarianHomo at January 13, 2009 3:23 AM

Every so often something on JihadWatch will stick in my memory.

It might be Igrid Mattson's expression, or something by Hugh, or the post of another reader, but seeing a mother put her child in harm's way on a dare is remarkable.

What is going on in the mind of someone like this?

"Harm, injure, or kill my child, and thousands of angry bees will swarm to exact their revenge on you."

The child may go to heaven, and the mother and her family can rest on their laurals for the remainder of their lifes.

Is that what what is meant by "We love death the way you love life"?

Is life so degraded that the adulation we usually reserve for retired sports heros is worth sacrificing your child for?

Children are just interchangable cogs in a larger whole. They are tribute, fungible, weapons - in other words, slaves.

The video is alittle unclear, but I hardly need any more examples of the tactic of human shields.

In addition to HAMAS, Hezbollah, and Saddam Husesin have all done it.

Judging from this, I guess this is how they really think.

Absolutely alien.

Posted by: Larry at January 13, 2009 10:35 PM