Ramadan is a smooth and plausible practitioner of takiyya (or kitman), the religiously-sanctioned deception to protect or promote Islam. He is simply among the smoothest and most mediagenic of the operatives, but his means are standard, and the naivete of those who fail to understand his message about "Muslim Minority Jurisprudence" do not realize that his goal remains that of his grandfather, Hassan al-Banna, when he wrote "It is the nature of Islam to dominate, not to be dominated, to impose its law on all nations and to extend its power to the entire planet." Ramadan simply recognizes that the conquest will have to take place not through qital, combat, where the non-Muslim world remains superior, but through migration to the Lands of the Infidels, the deliberate breeding of Muslims within those lands, and nonstop attempts at conversion -- da'wa -- beginning with the economically and psychically marginal. "Interfaith dialogue" is of course by now a racket for Muslims, whereby they can obtain reflected legitimacy from the innocent Christian and Jewish clergymen who lend themselves to this kind of thing without having studied, seriously, either Qur'an and hadith, or Muslim history, or for that matter the by-now extensive record of duplicity and meretriciousness. What sort of dialogue is possible if one side believes it must, inevitably, dominate the world and conquer the lands emverywhere so as to impose Islam, except for those ahl al-kitab who will enter the prescribed state of dhimmitude, a state of permanent humiliation, with legal, social, and political disablities, and with the constant threat-- despite that status so misleadingly translated as that of "protected people"-- of Muslim massacres and forced conversions (as happened everywhere, including Andalucia so often held up, so inaccurately, as a model of some kind of interfaith harmony).

To collaborate in this effort at deception ("war is deception" Muhammad says in one of the hadith), to not only allow Ramadan into this country but to allow him a position, and pay him a salary, is monstrous. There is more than naivete here; it is a willing refusal NOT to consider the possibility that the ideology of Islam contains elements that cannot be wished away, a willing refusal NOT to consider the role Ramadan plays, and above all, a refusal to look at what he has written and spoken in ARABIC as opposed to his much more soothing phrases, or studied ambiguities, in French. Why should it be so hard to do a little research before spreading, like confetti, American largesse before these young, utterly phony (and for those who take the trouble to examine their works, completely transparent and dangerous frauds), and thrusting "reformers" who are not reformers at all, just far more cunning and calculating handmaidens of Jihad.

it is sad to see the seed of america's destruction
planted with the aid of americans.

this site is appropriately named DHIMMIWATCH

because that is all that we can do: watch this
incredibly diabolical phenomena grow like a monster day by day.

those that have the power to do something about it
are pro islamic and the facts bare this out in
the educational, political, and economic sphere.

i applaud the few brave voices that are working
hard at exposing and documenting the jihad such
as daniel pipes, steven emerson, robert spencer,
bat ye'or, and rita katz.

my own view is that the west and islam are growing
inexorably involved and interdependent: allies if you will and the target is ultimately israel...

Once again we see that the Catholic university system is the best friend of Radical Islam in the West. With John Esposito at Georgetown and Tariq Ramadan at Notre Dame, two very famous and powerful luniversities have given the seal of approval to two notorious apologists for the aims of Radical Islam.

and it was the 'eastern orthodox christian' leaders
of the byzantine empire that collaborated with the
jihad to enslave its people according to bat ye'or.

We are not helpless. We know he is coming. Why cannot his arabic writings and speeches be translated into english and posted on the internet.
And why cannot a 'neighbourhood watch' be established to document his every move, sneeze and word?
Nothing damaging or threatening need be said about him, or to him. Just. Do. It.
And more and more educational wtitings about the truth as the q'uran states should be posted on the internet over and over. The most powerful weapon we have now is language. Let's use it.

Every time my alma mater tries to hit me up for money again, I'm going to send them a nice fact sheet about Tariq Ramadan. What the hell has happened to Notre Dame?

Hugh's comments are right on target.

I am almost finished reading Ramadan's new book, Western Muslims and the Future of Islam. The content is so slippery that I can hardly keep the book in my hands. He is a master of taqiyya and more dangerous, I think, than BinLaden. No matter how tolerant and reforming he sounds in the book, he encourages over and over for muslims to go back to their core doctrine contained in the Koran, Hadiths and biography of Mohammad. If you've read these works and understand that muslims believe them to be sacred and inviolable, you know he's a fundamentalist under all the mirrors and smoke. Also, he calls us, those free from submission to Allah, "the Other" and that is quite telling.

Islam is not a monotheistic religion but a dualistic religion with one set of commandments and rules for believers and another for "the Other." He is the ultimate intellectual jihadist and his grandfather would be proud of him.

i am french, (excuse my english)

and my husband was in notre dame school(!)

tariq ramadam is well know in europe to be an extremist muslim,(the kind who appreciate women discriminative treatement like lapidation), and antisemit too, of course without express it strongly or completely. he is know as well to be close to integrism movement name "muslims brother". when possible, his conferences are now cancel or forbiden in France.
this kind of people is particulary dangerous, cause as an intellectual, and smart, he know exactly how manipulate people, and adapt his ambivalente speech in fonction of the auditoire.

this is why he have nothing to do in this school, where it will be very easy to manipulate the students with his nauseous idea.
In more its a shame for Notre Dame to give any confidence and power to this man. it will give bad reputation to notre dame school too.

i suggest to any of notre dame student,(past of present) to take more informations about tariq ramadan, and to write protestation letters, or petition against this decision to notre dame direction, like my husband will do.

It is quite clear from this article and more so from its respondents preceding me, that the approach towards Ramadan is one-sided, pre-ordained and lacks any level of objectivity or intellectual forethought.

It is equally obvious, the supporters of this article may or likely prescribe to an eventual end to all of Islam as a faith (along w/its adherents) or wish to mold and create a form of Islam which is preferrable to them. This will not and should not be the case.

I support NDs hiring of Prof.Ramadan as it will only enlighten the american population more on Islam and not less. Anyone fearful of intellectual debates, thoughts and/or discourse is appropriately referred to as an idiot.

Hi,

We should be proud of the work Tariq Ramadan does.

Thank you for everything you do, Menadel says hello to you, always you will be in the heart of who you met.

Hope you are well and happy

I'm one of those students who will be studying this fall under Tariq Ramadan at Notre Dame. As you can imagine, I have read all of your comments with much interest. At this point, I'm curious how you can be so sure he is as bad as you're saying...at least without providing some specific quotes that are either clearly anti-Semitic or clearly promoting Islamic extremism. Just to say that he is "studiedly ambiguous", or using "parallel rhetorics" is not enough. It would be helpful if you could provide some evidence of exactly how he manages the feat of being moderate and ambiguous while also being a "militant Islamic figure", as Daniel Pipes called him. It is interesting that Mr. Pipes would both praise Ramadan's book and accuse its author of hiding an Islamist agenda. Seems as if Mr. Pipes is no stranger to ambiguity himself.

I would be happy to read any evidence you can provide that Tariq Ramadan is either an anti-Semite or a militant Islamic figure. Such information would be helpful to my future studies at Notre Dame.

Dear Jonathan:

Here are a few references you may find interesting:

http://watch.windsofchange.net/themes_67.htm

http://www.iht.com/articles/117867.html

http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/000753.php

Cordially
RS

Dear Robert,

Thank you for posting the links to articles about Tariq Ramadan. I had already read two of them before, but I did carefully re-read them and looked for evidence of either anti-Semitism or Muslim extremism. What I found (along with the other reading I have done) to prove Ramadan's anti-Semetism is one article Ramadan posted (out of many) that was accused of being anti-Semitic. It's possible that his point was debatable or doesn't show good judgment, but taken along with his frequent attempts to combat anti-Semitism among France's Muslims, one obscure article isn't enough to outweigh his work against anti-Semitism. I would include an article about him in the Israeli paper Haaretz affirming his stand against anti-Semitism. This type of evidence is more overwhelming and clearer than one article.

http://news.haaretz.co.il/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=168205

The second charge deals with his possible ties to the Muslim Brotherhood. As proof of that your article mentions the State Department's interest in meeting with him. Again, this charge is quite weak because there are many reasons that the State Department might want to meet with a spokesman for moderate Islam in Europe.

To put someone under suspicion just because of his relatives or because he is a Muslim believer instead of a secularized Muslim intellectual is relying on very thin evidence. Another key factor in Ramadan's perceptions would have to be the suspicion of religious Muslims in general in France. The fact that there is no legislation pending on students removing the veil in American or British schools should demonstrate that difference. If Tariq Ramadan was working in the UK or US instead of France, he might be received totally differently. Since he is coming to the US this fall, we will get a chance to find out. If there is a reason to be genuinely suspicious of him, there should be evidence in the States soon enough to prove those suspicions. Until then, the fact that Ramadan's work has been praised by a terrorism expert like Daniel Pipes in this article on his website

http://www.danielpipes.org/article/867

should carry more weight than weak accusations about his "slick ambiguity". As Daniel Pipes said, Ramadan has written a "a thoughtful and moderate analysis" of European Muslims role in society and he "is not calling for the conversion of the West to Islam". I don't know how Ramadan can manage to be moderate and "a militant Islamic figure" at the same time. If there is any remaining doubt, then time will tell. I will keep my eyes open.

Could someone give me Tariq's email address?

Many thanks,
Tashi