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March 15, 2004

The obligation of inciting religious hatred

The charming folks at Al-Muhajiroun, the radical Muslim group in Britain, have a fun evening planned for this Saturday (thanks to Curious Citizen from Sweden for the link):

The obligation of inciting religious hatred

This Saturday's LIVE talk on Paltalk will discuss one of the greatest forgotten obligations in Islaam - Inciting religious hatred. Allaah (swt) orders the believers to hate all other religions, way of lives, creeds, doctrines and beliefs that contradict with Islaam, and one cannot be Muslim without to declare animosity and hatred towards kufr [unbelief], bid'ah [innovation in religion], shirk [polytheism] and nifaaq [hypocrisy] (Christianity, Judaism, Hinduism, Sikhism, Buddhism, Democracy, Freedom etc.).

Date and time: 20th of March 2004, from 6pm to 7:30pm GMT
Room: LIVE - Inciting religious hatred
Speaker: Abu Muwahhid

Did you catch that "democracy, freedom, etc."?

ADDENDUM: As of March 19, this has been changed to "The Obligation of Hating False Religions."

Posted by Robert at March 15, 2004 11:30 AM
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Shows the complete dhimmitude of the Ummah Kingdom, where non-Muslims are clapped into irons for whispering even a hint of "incitement to religious hatred" at Muslims.

Just look at the Hazel Dick case, where a disobediant Muslim girl falsely and maliciously manipulated the UK's selectively applied "religious hatred" laws to destroy the career of a 20-year teaching veteran.

But these freaks can openly brag about holding SEMINARS to teach "religious hatred" and the Ummah Kingdom does nothing. The new rule in Europe is: anything goes if you are a Muslim. Anything.

Posted by: Susan at March 15, 2004 11:34 AM

Great link! In the meantime, the "Islam is a religion of Peace" message is still being broadcasted by hoards of talking heads, lately including the Saudi crown prince Abdullah, British Foreign Secretary Jack Straw, Pakistan Prime Minister Jamali and President Musharraf. I am sparing you the countless journalists, intellectuals and mullahs.

http://www.hipakistan.com/en/detail.php?newsId=en56625&F_catID=&f_type=source

http://usa.mediamonitors.net/content/view/full/5409/

http://www.hipakistan.com/en/detail.php?newsId=en56183&F_catID=&f_type=source

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/D850230E-C21F-462A-810F-33E1FB988B66.htm

Posted by: joaquin at March 15, 2004 12:18 PM

religion of peace my a** the brits should use laws already on the books to arrest investigate then deport those responsible after all didnt a top jerry springer type get booted by the bbc for saying the truth about muslims

Posted by: jimmytheclaw at March 15, 2004 12:22 PM

Sorry again Robert (need to get the word out)...

but I hope everyone here will join me in declaring today an International Day of Mourning for the thousands that are surely to die because of what the gezpacho eating surrender monkeys have wrought.

Posted by: Rusty Shackleford at March 15, 2004 12:34 PM

Is this website some kind of spoof?

Posted by: Jim at March 15, 2004 2:56 PM

Jim:

The site linked to in the article is real. Its authors are well-known Islamic zealots in Britain. You will probably be shocked, as I was, when you realize people like this are operating freely in the West, twisting our own freedoms against us in global intellectual jihad.

The solution? Given that I advocate non-violence and free speech, the Islamic threat has given me quite a conundrum to work out. In the end, I feel that speech inciting religiously-motivated violence, hatred, or other despicable practices falls outside the bounds of protected speech, especially when these jihadis openly suggest treason against their host countries.

No doubt my assessment of the situation would not be acceptable to many free-speech libertarians, but then, just letting things be is not acceptable either. Expecting our enlightened Western laws to apply to an group with no set of humanistic morals is naive and dangerous.

Posted by: Anonymous at March 15, 2004 3:55 PM

I have long thought that, as an American, the Muslim view is diametrically opposed to our Constitution.

We know it is NOT a real religion, it is an ideology. I think declaring it illegal and wiping it out is the only smart choice. NOTE: I mean wiping out their religion, not the people.
;-)

They are lucky I am not in charge.

BattleMaster

Posted by: Battlemaster at March 15, 2004 8:29 PM

I have long KNOWN that Islam is a totalitarian ideology, more insidious and comprehensive than that of Stalin. These people have had centuries to formulate a battle plan to Islamize the West. They have slowly and methodically infiltrated, raising their hands, begging for refuge, or extending their hands in friendship, all the while they practiced deception. By studying and infiltrating our governmental institutions, our institutions of higher learning, etc., they are well placed to advance on the Constitution and the fragile and wonderous concept of America.

Are we screwed? We will be if we can't convince our fellow Americans of the danger. I hope you are all doing your part. That is, more than just posting on this site to get the word out. Our children and our grandchildren are counting on our efforts. We can not fail them.

Posted by: epg at March 16, 2004 5:10 AM

As a Muslim American, I have to say that it is about time that fundamentalist Muslims stop using religion to further their prejudicial hatred or their political goals. Unfortunately, I don't think that there are many groups that we (meaning 'normal' Muslims) can join, or talks that we can go to, to discuss what 'to do'. I guess I just wanted to say - please don't lose faith. There are some of us (many of us) out there that are outraged that our religion is terrorized every time there is a bombing or a hateful speech. There are many of us who love to learn about other religions and cultures and embrace them - my best friend is Jewish, my boyfriend is Jewish, my roommate is Catholic. I don't think there is honestly any religion out there, Islam included, that doesn't believe that God wants people to respect other people. Many of these so-called Imams (Muslim preachers) are not truly educated and don't know much about the Qu'ran or its real teachings. I understand why someone posted that Islam should be illegal - but I just have to say that other Americans need to remember that there is an American Muslim community that is just as outraged as all other Americans are, if not more. I am sorry if that comminunity does not speak out more or denounce the fundamentalists more, but please don't write off the entire group of people.

Posted by: anonymous at March 18, 2004 7:19 AM

My question are to "Anonymous" who has so many non-Muslim friends. 1) Why don't you all throw out those Immams that aren't qualified and condemn them for their hateful and erroneous teachings. 2) Why don't we were difinitive condemnation of hate and terrorism from Muslims? I can guarantee you that respect will flow your way if you do.

Actions speak more loudly than words, and we won't accept words with empty promises. We want true action.

Posted by: epg at March 19, 2004 6:01 AM

islam is a religion of peace we muslim shud be allowed 2 follow n do wat our religion tells us freely like da otha religions. i dont see christians or jews or even hindus bein told wat to believe and wat to do i dont people callin christians and jews terrorists
even after all dis bad stuff being said about muslims and islam why is it dat islam is the worlds fastest religion why is it dat the scientests have proved the qur'an to be true realise the fact the qur'an hasnt been changed since the day it was made....
now answer dat

Posted by: proud muslim at April 7, 2004 5:44 PM

Proud Muslim:

"islam is a religion of peace we muslim shud be allowed 2 follow n do wat our religion tells us freely like da otha religions."

Should Muslims be allowed 2 follow n do wat dere religion tells dem if'n it tells dem to make war on da otha religions? (See Surah 9:29 fo details.)

"i dont see christians or jews or even hindus bein told wat to believe and wat to do i dont people callin christians and jews terrorists"

Maybe dats cause dey ain't no christians and jews blowin up da buildings, yo?

"even after all dis bad stuff being said about muslims and islam why is it dat islam is the worlds fastest religion why is it dat the scientests have proved the qur'an to be true realise the fact the qur'an hasnt been changed since the day it was made...."

Dis is hogwash, yo. Ain't no real scientiss prove nuttin bout da qur'an. Read some real science and real history.

"now answer dat"

OK. I dun it.

Posted by: Not a Muslim at April 7, 2004 5:51 PM

well actually it wanst muslims who blow up da twin towers it was da jews like normally da muslims got da blame
tell me sommit why didnt da jews dat work in da world trade centres go 2 work dat day hey answer dat
i dont need to prove ma self to u nor do muslims need 2 prove shit to u kafir coz we know were right we dont ure support
u lot r soo dumb how can u believe bush?
ure so gullible jus coz bush sed dat osama bin laden blow up da building dont mean he did it
give me da proof
u cant giv me proof coz der aint no proof
u wont believe me even after i told u but i dont giv a shit coz know wats rite n wats rong
now answer dat
proud muslim 4eva

Posted by: proud muslim at April 8, 2004 9:10 AM

Yo, homes, wassup?

"well actually it wanst muslims who blow up da twin towers it was da jews like normally da muslims got da blame"

In a videotape recorded in Afghanistan in November 2001, bin Laden celebrated the strikes on the World Trade Center. "We had notification since the previous Thursday that the event would take place that day," he said. "We calculated in advance the number of casualties." In another tape released in April 2002, bin Laden and one of his top deputies were shown kneeling to praise their "great victory" on September 11.

Yo, homey, wassup wid dat? Osama be a Jew?

"tell me sommit why didnt da jews dat work in da world trade centres go 2 work dat day hey answer dat"

It didden happen, yo. U ain't got no proof of it, either. I'll answer dat, homey, when u show me even one piece of evidence dat any Jew got da word to stay home on 9/11. U can't, cuz dere ain't none, word up. Rumors in da Arab press ain't evidence, yo?

"i dont need to prove ma self to u nor do muslims need 2 prove shit to u kafir coz we know were right we dont ure support"

Das good, cuz u ain't got my support, yo.

"u lot r soo dumb how can u believe bush?
ure so gullible jus coz bush sed dat osama bin laden blow up da building dont mean he did it
give me da proof"

Osama sed it, yo.

"u cant giv me proof coz der aint no proof
u wont believe me even after i told u but i dont giv a shit coz know wats rite n wats rong
now answer dat"

If u don't giv a shit, why u keep comin back, yo?

"proud muslim 4eva"

Proud idiot 4eva is mo' like it, yo.

Posted by: Not a Muslim at April 8, 2004 10:20 AM

look even if osama did bomb the towers but i know he didnt why does islam alwayz get mixed wit dat shit
why after september da 11th do muslims be called terrorists why does islam hav 2 be invovled
da onli reason im pissed is dat ppl compare muslims 2 terrorists n islam 2 terrorism but they dont know is dat islam is a religion of peace but every1 says its not jus coz muslim does sommit bad..
wen a muslim does sommit bad why doesnt dat muslim be takin to trial instead of islam?
look i aint tryin to fight u but im jus tellin u ma opinion so dont call me idiot jus coz u dont agree wit me if wanna talk 2 me bout osama n wateva den ders no use swearin or sayin shit bout each otha coz dat aint gonna get us far
lets jus talk n giv our opinions
is dat ok yo

Posted by: proud muslim at April 8, 2004 2:28 PM

"look even if osama did bomb the towers but i know he didnt why does islam alwayz get mixed wit dat shit"

Howcum u know he didnt, yo, when he admitted doin it??

"why after september da 11th do muslims be called terrorists why does islam hav 2 be invovled"

Why do da muslims keep actin like terrorists an sayin dey is fightin jihad, yo? If da jihad means killin nonmuslims, den i'm gonna resist, homes.

"da onli reason im pissed is dat ppl compare muslims 2 terrorists n islam 2 terrorism but they dont know is dat islam is a religion of peace but every1 says its not jus coz muslim does sommit bad.."

Hey homey pleez splain to me how cum da muslims keep fightin and blowin things up an shit an callin it jihad if'n islam is a religion of peace? Where is da peace in 9:5 and 9:29, yo?

"wen a muslim does sommit bad why doesnt dat muslim be takin to trial instead of islam?"

Cuz dey keep sayin dey did it fo islam, yo. If'n u dont know dat, u is in De Nile.

"look i aint tryin to fight u but im jus tellin u ma opinion so dont call me idiot jus coz u dont agree wit me if wanna talk 2 me bout osama n wateva den ders no use swearin or sayin shit bout each otha coz dat aint gonna get us far
lets jus talk n giv our opinions
is dat ok yo"

Das ok, yo. but if u give an "opinion" like da Jews did 9/11, u shud back it up, yo, cuz only an idiot wud believe anything da Al-Jazeeeeera tell him, yo?

Love
Kufr

Posted by: Still Not a Muslim at April 8, 2004 3:44 PM

yo yo homie wassup
look man i know u rite wit some shit u sed but i know wat i believe bout da jew shit if ya dont believ me dont
newayz if ya wanna chat 2 me proerly bout dis shit den add me on msn ma email add is mc_786@hotmail.com
look no hards feelings over dis shit

Posted by: proud muslim at April 8, 2004 6:50 PM

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