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Help wanted: Bouziane's Islamic center in Venissieux
Just this morning I posted a story saying that a French imam, Abdelkader Bouziane, faced legal action for advocating wife-beating. Well, he has been expelled from France. Note that he based his arguments on the Qur'an. From the BBC, with thanks to Filtrat:
A Muslim cleric who advocated the beating of women has been expelled from France, officials have announced.Algerian-born Abdelkader Bouziane was detained on Tuesday after telling a magazine the Koran backed the beating and stoning of adulterous wives.
Mr Bouziane also expressed hopes that "the entire world becomes Muslim".
The remarks caused an immediate outcry in France, which hosts Western Europe's largest Muslim community - about five million people, mainly of north African origin.
Muslim leaders in France also condemned the imam's remarks, saying Islam did not condone domestic violence.
However, the leader of France's National Council of Muslims warned the French media not to seek to portray all Muslims in the West as fundamentalists, or to stir up anti-Islamic sentiment by seeking out extremist opinion.
Mr Bouziane was prayer leader in Venissieux, near Lyon, and had lived in France for the last 25 years.
He was expelled on Wednesday to his native Algeria, officials said.
The French interior ministry said remarks against human rights, particularly women's rights, could not be tolerated.
The imam told the April issue of Lyon Mag he favoured wife-beating "under certain conditions, especially if the woman cheats on her husband".
He then went on national television to clarify his comments.
He said he had not advocated hitting women on the face, but insisted that the Koran did authorise husbands to beat their wives if they had been unfaithful.
He was also quoted as saying he favoured an Islamic republic in France.
"But not just for France. I want the whole world to become Muslim."
An expulsion order had already been issued in February after the interior ministry deemed his views to be a threat to public order, AFP reported.
The interview confirmed that the decision was correct, the French interior ministry said.
Posted by Robert at April 21, 2004 10:57 PM
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There is no morality in Islam, what is permitted is good and what is not permitted is bad. We constantly hear that this or that behavior is, or is not, permitted in Islam. There is no right or wrong. Muslims are reduced to automatons who must ask the 'learned' imam whether they can be alive. Muslims are dead inside - no thinking, no feeling, no empathy; just blind submission to the will of Allah (the slaves of Allah).
This is deep sickness.
Posted by: Ethyred at April 22, 2004 9:40 AMThe very first word in the Quran revealed from Angel Gabriel was "Iqra" (Read!). This command in Islam to "Read" or seek knowledge from birth til the grave is an obligation on every male and female. Learning and questioning is mandatory. Also, Islam has the highest rules of morality.
http://www.islam-usa.com/25ques.html
Your mindset, like the Al-Qaida mindset, produces trouble.
Posted by: Lorri A. at April 22, 2004 11:21 AMLorri,
I've looked at that site. It contains lies, half truths, and sugar-coated pablum. Instead, read the Qur'an and the hadiths and think about what you are reading. Study history. Look at what is happening in the world. Note how well the conduct of Muslims corresponds to the professed beliefs of "25 Questins".
For a different response to Question 25, consider what is happening to the non-Muslims in Somalia, Nigeria, and Thailand - areas that have nothing to do with U.S. foreign policy.
I'm just an old, retired Army sergeant who has spent 17 of the last 25 years outside the U.S. - mostly Europe and the Middle East. Some of the other regulars here (Hugh comes to mind) are much more literate and can do an excellent point by point refutation based on the Qur'an and the hadiths.
By the way, questioning the Qur'an in the wrong part of the world can get you killed. Sort of violates the spirit of the answer to Question 25, doesn't it?
jay
Posted by: Jay Stevens at April 22, 2004 12:45 PMLorri,
What if the knowledge you discover contradicts the Koran?
Posted by: Northerner at April 22, 2004 7:20 PMthe dictionary defines cult as the following:
NOUN: 1a. A religion or religious sect generally considered to be extremist or false, with its followers often living in an unconventional manner under the guidance of an authoritarian, charismatic leader. b. The followers of such a religion or sect. 2. A system or community of religious worship and ritual. 3. The formal means of expressing religious reverence; religious ceremony and ritual. 4. A usually nonscientific method or regimen claimed by its originator to have exclusive or exceptional power in curing a particular disease. 5a. Obsessive, especially faddish, devotion to or veneration for a person, principle, or thing. b. The object of such devotion. 6. An exclusive group of persons sharing an esoteric, usually artistic or intellectual interest.
islam seems to fit all the definitions except no. 6.
Posted by: ted at April 22, 2004 10:06 PM
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