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La Nidra
The marvelous Nidra Poller graced our shores recently. Alas, because of various crises I was unable to see her this time around, but here is a report from the Jewish Ledger about how "pro-Palestinian" people in France are creating an atmosphere for Jews that is reminiscent of the early Nazi period.
May 7, 2004 - To hear Nidra Poller tell it, you'd think she was describing Germany of the 1930's: the rise of a popular right-wing government; a well-oiled propaganda machine; a ghettoized Jewish community; tolerance for rabid anti-Jewish rhetoric….But Poller wasn't describing pre-WWII Germany, she was discussing the France of today, and her words were frightening.
Speaking at Congregation Beth El in Fairfield last week, Poller, an [expatriate] American writer who has lived in France since 1972, detailed the development of a society in which the most virulent forms of anti-Semitism are tolerated.
"Understanding the situation in France is like putting together the pieces of a puzzle. Beginning in the early weeks of September 2000 [at the start of the current wave of Palestinian violence against Israelis], there were massive Pro-Palestinian demonstrations where people began shouting ‘Death to the Jews,'" Poller said. "It was illegal, but no one stopped them. Soon it was all right to write ‘Death to the Jews' in graffiti on apartment buildings. Before we knew it, synagogues were being burned, buses carrying Jewish school children were stoned, and Jewish children and rabbis were beaten in the streets. Recently, there have been two ritual murders of Parisian Jews by Muslims."
French media, she said, was also connected to the Palestinian violence from the earliest stages: prestigious French publications first carried the story of Mohammed al Dura, the boy who became a symbol of supposed Israeli aggression when he was killed cowering behind his father. Poller said that although it was later proven that Israeli bullets could not have reached the child, the credence given to the fabricated reports overshadowed the later findings.
The diminutive, expressive grandmother spoke softly and with a slight accent as she added more pieces to the growing puzzle: a constant barrage of anti-Israel propaganda in the press and anti-Israel sentiment in the government, combined with untethered Arab immigration to France and the new glorification of Islam in the society. "Young girls who were born in France are now wearing black from head to toe, just as they do in Saudi Arabia," she said.
What can be done to reverse the situation for the Jews in France? Not much, Poller says. After four years of increasingly pervasive anti-Semitism in the society, key elements are blocking a Jewish response. Firstly, that Arabs can act against Jews with impunity — even those who are caught on film beating Jews, and, unbelievably, even those who confess to murdering Jews — are not arrested or tried for their crimes. Secondly, anti-Semitism has pervaded the intellectual elite: countless books and articles against Judaism and Israel are circulated, so that there is a propaganda flood similar to the 1930s. Thirdly, the Muslim population is becoming more obviously unassimilated, more violent, and more politicized. And fourthly, there is systematic opposition to Israel and the United States.The result is that Jews are blocked in.
"Jews cannot sue; they cannot speak out; they cannot write about what's happening. If one does, one is accused of ‘upsetting the harmony of France'. Jews are in a ‘virtual ghetto': their choice is either to be publicly anti-Zionist or to face exclusion or victimization. And the Jews think it will blow over! They are very Frenchified, have lived there for generations, and also they are afraid that if they make too much ‘noise,' they will lose the limited police protection they have now," Poller said.
Beth El congregant Jerry Gordon, an acquaintance of Poller's, arranged her lecture in conjunction with the Community Relations Commission.
"Nidra's message is most important for American Jews to hear, because it puts us all on notice about the dangers of the Arab "Islamist" seduction of France and other European nations, and tolerance of anti-Semitic, anti-Israel, and anti-American rhetoric and actions," he said.
Posted by Robert at May 6, 2004 8:44 AM
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La Nidra, my friend spokein Philadelphia last night and does not leave our shores for Eurabia until after the ides of May. We have made a DvD of her talk at Congregational Beth El in Fairfield, CT for those of you interested in obtaining a copy of her talk, please contact me at my email: jerry_gordon38@yahoo.com.
Posted by: Jerry Gordon at May 6, 2004 11:55 AMAnd don't for a second think that the bloodthirsty Saracens living here in the United States. When the cockaroaches multiply they will infect America with the same cancer as they have in France. The death cult of the moon-god needs to be stopped now.
Posted by: Angry Infidel at May 6, 2004 1:49 PMImagine that you are the member of the French elite. One child is preparing the khagne. Another is now a politechnicien. You are very comfortable, working for the state. Yes, you do notice more and more Muslims about you. And you felt so uneasy, four years ago, when you happened to be walking on the Cannebiere in Marseille that you decided, then and there, that you would not return.
And you have friends in the south. And they tell you that the "beurs" make life hell for everyone. They attack French children on the way to school. They vandalize cars. Whole areas of cities in the south are simply off-limits to non-Muslims. In the schools, in north and south, teachers no longer cover World War II, the Resistance, and the Holocaust as it says clearly in the syllabus they must. They just don't; they fear how the Muslims will react.
And as the schools become more and more dangerous for non-Muslims, and more time and resources devoted to discipline rather than to learning, French parents and would-be parents are now silently factoring into their childbearing plans the present value of the future cost of what, they now see, will have to be added: private school tuition. And that means, of course, that they will have smaller and smaller families. And don't forget the cost, paid by French taxpayers, for the whole edifice of security, the guards in the schools, the guards at the train stations and metro stations and airports and at government buildings everywhere, the costs of all those tapped phones and agents in mosques, and subsidies to lawyers and judges to hear charges and try cases against Muslms, and then there are the costs of monitoring da'wa in the prisons (now more than 50% Muslim), and on and on Of course French families will feel the burden, and of course they will grow ever smaller. But the Muslims are indifferent to expenses incurred by the state. Imam Bouziane had 16 children by two wives, and he is a representative man. So the difference between average family size of Muslims and non-Muslims steadily increases.
And the education system continues to disintegrate. Right now, perhaps, you cannot see it. You do not take the metro often enough. You vacation in Normandy, or Brittany, or the Ile de Re. Your children are in schools in the most expensive districts. You do not see, quite, what tens of millions of Frenchmen now have to endure. You are, for the moment, still immune. You have spent the last few decades learning about the Muslim world from Eric Rouleau, and his epigones, in Le Monde. You are deeply-versed in the reported and analyzed perfidy of Israel. You know what we all know: that the Arab Muslims are reasonable people, with clearly-justified grievances, grievances limited in scope which justice demands be satisfied, and they can be satisfied, and all will be well. There is a "solution," a "two-state" solution.
And everything looks the way it always has looked: the linden trees, the river, the bridges, the reverberes. Doesn't it? At the end of the school day, chic mothers still congregate in little towns, or small cities, outside the school -- Ecole Jules Ferry -- waiting to pick up their children. Here come the littlest ones, from maternelle, running up now -- just look at how small they are. And here are the CE1 group, with those huge cartables on their tiny backs. Run, run, run, to Mommy. Oop-la. And then the years of study study study marked by cahiers -- "cahier" and "cartable" are the words that identify French DNA better than Piaf or gauloises, isn't that true? And now we will read the books, and study the subjects, set down so completely and precisely by the Ministry of Education (if we happen to spend a year abroad, the children will dutifully follow the CNED, not missing a pedagogic beat). All those Lagarde et Michard, year by year, or their newer replacements. And now we are beyond all that, and preparing for the Bac, with copies of blue-backed BALISES, guides to Les Chatiments and La peau de chagrin. And just look at the results listed in the newspaper: Claire-Alix has a mention tres bien. Fantastic. Everything is fine, everything is just as it was and always will be.
But it is all coming apart, quietly, slowly, we musn't pay too much attention, the schools, the safety, the hospitals, the ability to speak the truth about the menace. Dominique de Villepin always knew there was nothing to worry about; of course he did; he was born, after all, in Sale, next to Rabat; he knows his Arab world. And surely Eric Rouleau, who for decades explained in Le Monde the reality of the Middle East, surely he knew everything, didn't he? And those French translations of Edward Said that explained about Islamophobia, and the vicious cliches with which the West has always caricatured the Arab Muslim world as being full of violence and aggression? And what about that copy of Aden Arabie you bought at Maspero's bookshop o some thirty years ago? Oh, we have been so terrible to the Arabs, we colonialists, we French, we Westerners. And of course there is the never-ending outrage of Israel,that colonial state. They have every right, those Muslims, to come here. We went to their countries once, now they come to ours. And they have every right to hate us. Don't they?
So now that we have cut all ties of sympathy to Israel; and how did we ever have any sympathy for it in the first place, the way some of our parents did back in 1948 or 1956 or 1967? How could they not have seen what the "Palestinian people" had to endure? Hanan, Yasser, Said -- you have won our hearts and minds. Take us, do with us what you will.
No one will mention what is happening or what kinds of things we must do to save ourselves. No one of any decency. And whatever Le Pen and Megret say, we must say the opposite (except, of course, when they show their hostility to "the Jews"). Do not say those things, do not think them. Free thought is all very well in theory, but really -- consider the consequences. Don't go there, don't think outside that box brimming with idees recues. Defense de penser au dehors du box.
No, everything will be all right as you stroll down the Avenue Paule-Anne. Those Muslims are no match for us. Why, just look at those legionnaires marching a pas lent down the Champs-Elysees, and that string of desert victories. The defeat of Abd-el Kader. Pepe le Moko. Tunisian dates at Monoprix. Nothing to worry about. Inside our heads, it is 1930 and now here is the Exposition Coloniale. You remember, tu te souviens, that painting by le Douanier Rousseau, don't you, with the burnoosed Arab standing next to the black Senegalese? France will always be France. Nothing will ever change (in the background someone is humming "La petite Tonkinoise").
You realize, at some point, that something has gone irreparably wrong with your own country, the country of France, and you, and your children, are in danger of losing that country. And you do not know what to do, or how to explain this feeling to others, or in whom to confide your secret fears, or what can be done. It is so confusing, and so upsetting.
You cannot vote for Le Pen. You cannot endorse "cowboy" Bush or those ridiculous Americans. You have no place to go.
And then you learn what Jacques Chirac -- who has a Muslim grandchild himself -- and Dominique de Villepin, do not wish you to learn. For if you do, you might be very angrey. You discover that 1 out of every 3 babies born in France today is a Muslim baby. And that means, in 20 years 1 out of every 3 20-year-olds in France will be a Muslim twenty-year-old. And that means, twenty years after that, at present rates of reproduction, France will have a majority Muslim population. Where shall we hide the statues from Marly-le-roi? And the Venus de Milo? And what about all those paintings of animated life -- all those portraits in the Louvre, and the Grand Palais, and the Musee Guimet down there in linden-lined Aix, and everywhere else in art-filled artful France, -- that are absolutely forbidden according to the Qur'an. Should they be sent for safekeeping to those Americans across the seas? By then almost all of the Jews in France will have left, gone to Israel and to America and to English-speaking Canada (they were worried about its Muslim population, you see, in Quebec, allowed in under the PQ's policy of encouraging francophone immigrants, preferring North Africans to potential immigrants from Italy, Greece, Spain.) No more donations in the style of Pierre Levy. Enjoy the Kufic calligraphy; some find it endlessly fascinating.
Something will come up. Most likely, all those Muslims will simply convert. I mean, they do that, don't they, quite easily I'm told. Of course, why didn't I think of it, that is exactly what will happen. The situation is always saved in time. Just like during the war. Nothing to worry about. Nothing.
Posted by: Hugh at May 6, 2004 1:54 PMZero immigration now.
Posted by: Luigi at May 6, 2004 2:14 PMHugh:
Such good writing. But you must get it translated into french and in Le Figaro. We need to have Jihadwatch in other languages - just like secularislam.org and answering-islam.org. You are so right Hugh. They are sleep-walking to disaster in France. How can the french be so uncomprehending? I do not understand what is going on there. Actually, I take that back. I do understand it because, essentially, that is the same thing that is going on here in North America. Nobody is willing to talk publicly about Islam and what it stands for. The Muslims constantly lie about their religion and no one questions them. Time magazine had an article about Islam recently which concluded: "All Canadians need to know more about the growing number of Muslims within their nation - their beliefs, their traditions, their aspirations." However, we are not going to find out what those are from Time Magazine. In a whole "cover" story about Islam, there was NOT ONE single word about what Muslims believe. I have never yet seen a single article in a major newspaper or magazine anywhere in the Western world which frankly discusses what Muslims believe. This self-censorship is going to destroy our civilization.
Posted by: Mentat at May 6, 2004 2:17 PMHugh that is really scary! All too believable though.
Posted by: Interested at May 6, 2004 2:20 PMThank goodness for the internet !!
Am I kidding myself on that the situation is not as bad as some people on here seem to think ? Do the vast numbers of 2nd/3rd generation muslim immigrants really wanto to go down the road of sharia ? Nah, say it isn't so.
> And the Jews think it will blow over!
As they did in Berlin in the 30s.
We have learned nothing.
Posted by: Dennis at May 6, 2004 3:25 PMWhat puzzles me is how what these Froggistanis going to live on? Shariatopia is unproductive and survives parasitically on the backs of Western society. If there are so few productive non-Muslims, who's going to earn money to provide the benefits for the unproductive, but highly reproductive Muslims.
Posted by: Interested at May 6, 2004 3:26 PMHugh! That's lyrical! I just sent it to my rabbi.
Posted by: Jem Blume at May 6, 2004 4:48 PMRecipe for cooking a frog: Place frog in deep secure pot. Pour warm water on it up to it's neck. Mmmmmm, warm, comfortable. Turn up the heat slowly. Check back in 20 minutes. Done. Serve.
Posted by: Jenifer at May 6, 2004 5:26 PMHugh:
I am speechless; this monograph is superb. After the first several sentences, Stefane Grappelli's soundtrack from "May Fools" sprung to mind (as I type, appropriately I suppose, I am listening to "La Fille du Bedouin" on a CD).
French civilization is marching headlong, seemingly oblivious, off a cliff. And, by your calculation, in forty years, the "force du frappe" will be in islamist hands.
This is utter madness. Surely, France can be invigorated against this eventuality?
Posted by: Earl at May 6, 2004 5:31 PMMohammed al Dura was not cowering behind his "father". The picture clearly shows the "father" cowering behind the child.
Posted by: chuck at May 6, 2004 7:35 PMHugh this is truly a magnifique pièce d'écriture. Living in France myself I can only add that you described scarily too well the situation at hand.
Like the prophets of old those who dare try to say something are mocked, thrown to courts to answer judges who routinely let go free criminals of all sorts. Dantec was lynched by the media mob not 2 months ago for disagreeing with the mainstream consensus.
Not all France is living under this dellusion, and the virtual reality enforced by the public education, medias and elites is cracking.
"La France d'en bàs" (the France from below) as Prime Minister Raffarin labelled it a few years ago, this France has to live day by day with the consequence of the islamisation.
Why do you thing a loonie like Le Pen came 2d in 2002's presidentials ?
By the way, Brigitte Bardot, la femme symbole of the 60's France is being prosecuted for "racism" because of one her latest book where she criticizes the immigration policy...It says a lot.
Posted by: El at May 6, 2004 8:01 PMyeh wasnt there race riots after bridgette criticized the mass slaying of sheeps in French streets? what the?
whats wrong with these people cant they handle criticism, do they have to be violent evertime they need to object to something? talk about inbreeeding problems, u keep inbreeding a dog and it goes wacko, same with people
what happened to freedom of speech? the frecnh flag will nolonger be red/white/blue but green , sad sad
I'd like to ask the French Jews, what is it going to take to reverse the current trends? What are the prospects for this to happen?
Advice: Immigrate to Israel, America, England, Australia, the rump of the civilized world.
Posted by: Jabba the Nutt at May 7, 2004 12:00 AMHugh, I am sitting here in shock after reading your post. Well, not really shock, because there are warning signs all around us. The most silent is the mainstream media.
Question: what can an individual do about this? Aside from self-education and speaking to as many people as possible, it seems too daunting a task...and because of this era of 'tolerance' people would think I'm crazy or a conspiracy nut to believe this.
I remember back in the 1970's living in Germany; their most vocal complaint was 'the invasion of the Turks.' Talk to any German back then on the street or in stores, and they would not hesitate to speak of their beloved homeland being overrun by these 'people', and they had no idea what to do about them. Looking at France and other European countries including North America (since the 1970's-2004) and we are looking at a massive Islamic population explosion. Often when I am in Costco here in my own town, you can walk from one isle to the next without hearing one word of English; everyone is speaking Arabic or Farsi.
Are we Americans that frog in the pot of warm water?
Posted by: dee at May 7, 2004 12:09 AMFrance is on a fast track to self destruction,indeed....but let`s not forget the fact that not even in dhimi France,they are not allowing the muslim call to prayer on loudspeakers 5 times a day,like they did here in the US,in the state of Michigan.
So to those jewish people in France that think the US is the last hope against muslim world domination,i say,think again.
I just got home from my clinical at a hospital in my nursing program. The subject of "Palestine" came up during a postclinical discussion of travel nursing. Last December, several of our class here in Washington State went to "Palestine" under the auspices of "Nursing Students Without Borders." An e-mail list was passed around for those of us who wanted to be updated on their trip.
There are other students in our class who do volunteer medical things for clinics in Hondoras and on the Ship of Hope so volunteer medical rotations are very much accepted.
Their e-mails had nothing to do with medicine and everything to do with the oppression of the "Palestinians" and how the Israeli army destroyed many buildings and the tragedy of the family they stayed with whose 21 year old son had been put in an Israeli prison for being in a neighborhood watch patrol.
According to a person on another list I am part of, there are no neighborhood watch patrols in Ramallah, and this individual had probably been picked up for terrorist related activities.
My clinical group has 5 students and an instructor.
4 of the students acknowledged that it was a good cause.
1, me, was shell-shocked and said nothing.
Later, 2 students came over to me and made sympathetic murmurings.
Rus
Yes France is indeed mortally wounded by thirty years of left- wing- left -bank lunacy. But France has also prostituted itself in an oil for immigrants fiasco which is irreversable. Holland is also in the same boat through 25 years of liberalism lunacy.
We will mourn the passing of french culture which is UNDENIABLY massive. Don't forget the AMERICAN constitution.
Form Verlaine to Voltaire , Fragonard to Matisse, Debussy to Saint Saens , Pascal to Curie, and of course,the great philosophers.
yes an enormous tragedy and one brought about by the idiocy of the modern french themselves.
The hatred of america vented every day in "august publications such as "Le Monde" and fanned by the Islamisst who read so well the distain of the French for the "uncultured americans" and played it to the hilt !
How have the French fallen !
Now the french are waiting for the explosions or the riots which may start on the word of some Mullah and spread from the HLM buildings full of state supported Islamists, which circle every french town. Frantically they sacrifice their Jews to the bloodlust of the islamists in the hope that appeasement might work or delay the inevitable. Oh how easy it is to offer them in their docility and dedication to non violence.
One day the gates of Ellis Island may be reopoened ant it will be the french jews who will kiss the floors and give thanks to their new Homeland. And not far behind will be the "true french" fleeing islamic persecution.
The islamification of europe is the major problem.
the terrorism is only a small part of it.
The EU has allowed this - remember the EU Report on the rise of anti-semitism in the EU earlier this year?-It was suppressed since it stated very clearly that its cause was the ever-growing muslim population throughout the EU - especially in France!
When the EU did finally release it, the report was been doctored/changed to state that anti-semitism was due to young white males - not the muslim population so as not to incite the muslim population. Dhimmitude is alive and well in the EU!
jihan
Posted by: jihan at May 7, 2004 10:09 AMJihan
Yes and attacks are carefully reclassified as "non religious" by the french police or authorities.
Remember the case of the young french disk Jockey who had his throat slit in ritual Islamic murder (like Daniel Pear RIP).
The muslim killer shouted Allah Akbar ! I have killed a Jew !
The shattered parents were apparently asked by the police NOT to refer to this as a "Crime Raciale" !
JihanA
nother problem, a french jewish activist has
told me, is that the media will only interview French Jews who are Anti Israeli. Any "intelectual" Jew who shows any sympathy to israel is wiped of the list of Interviewable Jews.
This has generated a small number of high profile "GOOD Jews" in the eyes if the publically funded France 2 et al.
remember they were behind the monstrous Al Dura production. Their cameraman stood by the pal who fired and killed the boy. ( some claim he was not killed but whisked away afterwars)
The reason they Interview these Jews is to show that they are not antisemetic -and look even the good jews condemn Israel.
Melanie philips has a similar article on her web site about the English media.
Great article! A compelling narrative.
What to do?
Start writing letters to the editor! We just had a pc liberal in our local weekly paper call for the removal of a semi-regular column by P:rof. Laina Farhat-Holtzman. She writes compellingly about the dangers of islamic fundamentalism, and speaks from some personal experience. The erson calling for her silencing used the usual arguments: "racist, bad history, cultural superiority, First World vs Third World, etc"
I immedately wrote my comments to the editor and hope to see them in the next issue.
Do what you can when you can. Make it a hobby! Start writing to the editor of your papers. Inform yourself. Learn the facts. This is a great site for this.
Hugh: what about a "DID YOU KNOW THIS ABOUT ISLAM?" pamphlet? Something concise, with essential talking points, arguments and rebuttals? This would be a tool in the 'war of ideas'. It could be short and to the point and used as a 'quick study' reference guide.
We all need to educate ourselves first, and then learn to communicate to others.
Mike H
well, it semms like we are not living in the same world... what I consider to be the main threat to french culture is not islam but a money-driven uniformisation (wich is only IN PART caused by the US). it do not mean that fondamentalism is not a problem, but that things are more subtil than your one-sided description... (i.e. the 'veil in school' question, or the cases filed against fudamentalist imams which were sent back to their contry, ect...)
Posted by: a french guy at May 10, 2004 8:11 AM

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