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Ayaan Hirsi Ali
A bit of anti-dhimmitude from the magnificently courageous Dutch ex-Muslim Ayaan Hirsi Ali as she confronts a mujahid. English translation from Faithfreedom.org of this Dutch story, with thanks to Ali Dashti:
Ayaan Hirsi Ali [*], a Liberal Party member in the Dutch parliament put a knife in the hands of a young man who said she should be killed. The liberal politician handed him the weapon saying “if you want to see me dead, you should do it yourself”. Hirsi Ali writes about the event in her column for Algemeen Dagblad [a daily Dutch newspaper].She describes how last Thursday in a bar in The Hague she was tapped on the shoulder and addressed by man of around 24 years that said: “Miss, I really hope with all my heart that the Mujahedeen will get you and kill you.” Confronted with this Hirsi Ali picked up a knife and gave it to the man. The man’s startled reaction was that he didn’t want to do it because he was afraid to go to jail.
After a discussion the man who spoke with a southern accent [soft spoken ‘g’] apologized for his actions. He said his name was S. and that he came from Tilburg. The liberal politician suspects it is a recently converted Dutchman to Islam because of his dark blonder hair. ...
[*] Ayaan Hirsi Ali is a Dutch politician of Somali origin who left the Social Democrats for the Liberal Party to fight for the emancipation of Muslim women in Holland. She one’s called the Mahomet ‘a thug, a pedophile and a dictator according to modern standards.’
Posted by Robert at June 3, 2004 10:22 AM
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Talk about bravery. This lady deserves some kind of medal. I am just staggered by this woman's courage.
Posted by: Mentat at June 3, 2004 11:11 AMWhat was a Muslim guy doing in a bar, anyway?
Posted by: CGW at June 3, 2004 11:18 AMHe was waiting for strippers, just like that worm Mohammed Atta was doing before his dirty deed on us. I hope his 72 virgins are 300 lb. powerlifters.
Posted by: DCWatson at June 3, 2004 11:28 AMAyaan Hirsi Ali is a very brave woman, since she's one of the few people in the Netherlands who is 'fighting' for the emancipation of female immigrants (especially female muslims) and who has the bravery to criticize the (fundamentalistic) Islam.
But in Holland, many people still have the opinion that it's a taboo to critizise Islam. Many islamitic organisations in Holland and also many of our political parties (the christian-democrats and the social-democrats) try to frustrate her work for the emancipation of female immigrants and human rights.
But the most worst danger is muslims and radical anarchists are threatening her. One year ago, she had to go into hiding, because some mujahedeen wanted to murder her. Yes people, thats what's happened with the freedom of speech in the Netherlands. Very strange if you know Holland was probably the first country in the world who recognized the freedom of speech!
So, there are only few who can match Hirsi Ali in bravery, and I'll hope she'll never give up, for she's fighting for the right cause.
Posted by: Desperado at June 3, 2004 11:50 AMWhat an incredible lady!
I'd have to say if anyone would know the danger, it would be her.
And all for the 'crime' of helping other women not be doormats or worse.
These Muslim men seem to have no real strength of ego, to be so scared of a strong woman.
Ayaan Hirsi Ali is indeed a very brave woman and the young man that threatened her is a hypcrite. He doesn't have the courage of his conviction. I am afraid, though, that he or someone else will return, masked, to humiliate or do away with the lady as an object lesson because Islam will not tolerate apostasy.
Bravo, Ms. Ali. May God preserve you and save you from evil.
Posted by: epg at June 3, 2004 12:41 PMNotice how the creep who threatened her wasn't deterred by any moral considerations -- just by the thought of having to go to jail. He would have completed the task if he hadn't been afraid of kuffar justice.
Sicko!
Posted by: Susan at June 3, 2004 1:06 PMNotice how the creep who threatened her wasn't deterred by any moral considerations -- just by the thought of having to go to jail. He would have completed the task if he hadn't been afraid of kuffar justice.
Sicko!
Posted by: Susan at June 3, 2004 1:06 PMSusan - OK, so you hit the Send button twice, but your comment was worth repeating. What a fine, brave lady. I hope no one gets up the actual nerve to hurt her - as opposed to issuing little boy bullying threats. I hope the Dutch police keep their eye on her - even if only (knowing Holland is at least as "liberal" - thought fascist - as Britain) because they think she's a trouble-maker.
Thank you this lady for refusing to be a victim! Obviously, she not only has exceptional intelligence (coming from Francophone Somalia and learning to speak fluent Dutch and English off her own bat), but she's damn' brave.
Posted by: Verity at June 3, 2004 1:31 PMcgw..... it seems obvious to me that he was following her.
I hope like hell that she has bodybguards.
Posted by: keithjoy at June 3, 2004 1:43 PMAyaan Hirsi Ali has diamond balls. This Foster's for you, lady.
Why oh why is the first impulse of converts to Islam the taking of another's life? What kind of indoctrination do the mosque preachers use that lowers the barrier to killing or its sanction? It's pure and simple brain washing.
Posted by: Helen at June 3, 2004 1:50 PMThe story has now made Expatica.com:
http://www.expatica.com/source/site_article.asp?subchannel_id=1&story_id=8147
Posted by: Susan at June 3, 2004 2:10 PMThe boy in the dutch version is discribed as blond. So he is either a willing dhimmi (that is what I call them) or a convert.
Further more nothing but praise for Hirsi´s action.
Posted by: wodan82 at June 3, 2004 2:46 PMI was just thinking, we all should send her e-mails of support, since she obviously isn't getting any there.
For those that do speak out, we should support them, for those that speak out but add lines to their statments (ie in the first thread about Muslim women against Shi'ra in Canada) about neo-colonialism, we should correct them.
That is the one thing, that we as a group can do.
Posted by: SusanB at June 3, 2004 3:01 PMNot to take anything away from her intellect, but Somalia was formerly two colonies--Italian and British Somaliland. I don't know whence she came, but it's quite possible that her European language experience was in English. Then again, considering the sorry state of that region, it's quite possible she didn't receive any formal schooling in any European language while living there. Or any formal schooling period.
The French portion of the Horn of Africa is now Djibouti.
David
Posted by: David at June 3, 2004 3:57 PMJust looked her up some more.
"I left Somalia when I six-years-old. I lived in Saudi Arabia for one year, in Ethiopia for one and a half years, in Kenya for 11 years, and I live in the Netherlands now.
So second language if anything would have been English.
Posted by: David at June 3, 2004 6:14 PMNotice how the creep who threatened her wasn't deterred by any moral considerations -- just by the thought of having to go to jail. He would have completed the task if he hadn't been afraid of kuffar justice.
Posted by Susan at June 3, 2004 01:06 PM
**Too true!
I'm beginning to wonder if Islam atracts all Pschopaths and sociopaths, or if the religion creates them with its pogrom.
For a long time I have believed that the various Marxist radicalisms were nothing but a great bellow of rage against Western civilization. I am now convinced, and that those once attracted to Marx are now moving to Muhammad.
Posted by: Kepha at June 3, 2004 11:08 PMI hope the Dutch have laws about assault similar to those we have in English Common Law countries. I'm also glad to see that Hirsi Ali, who obviously is an apostate from Islam (otherwise she would not call Muhammad a thug and pedophile), is brave enough to speak her convictions; and in so doing, expose how fatuous is the modern multi-cultie movement (I refuse to use the honorable word "cultural" in speaking of it).
Posted by: Kepha at June 4, 2004 12:14 AMShe's doing what all Liberals should be doing but they're too busy removing crosses and Ten commandments from public spaces.
Posted by: Carlos at June 4, 2004 12:35 AMWHAT'S HAPPENED TO THAT OTHER FAMOUS APOSTATE SALMAN RUSHDIE. WHY IS THE WESTERN MEDIA NOT ASKING FOR HIS OPINION ON ISLAM NOW.
THEY ONLY SEEM TO INVITE APOLOGISTS LIKE YASMIN ALIBHAI BROWN OR KAREN ARMSTRONG ONTO CHAT SHOWS.
IT MAKES ME CRINGE, PURE MORAL COWARDICE, THIS WOMAN HAS MORE COURAGE THAT ANY MAN IN THE BBC.
"I hope the Dutch have laws about assault similar to those we have in English Common Law countries."
Security was around but has not heard anything of the conversation, according to various dutch sources. She had gotten these securityguards after several death-threats.
Average muslim reaction in Holland? This clitless somalian bitch is making up the story just to get media exposure...
Do not make any mistake about this: Holland will not, I repeat, wil NOT take any measures against muslimagression, for they consider religion as a primary means to 'integrate further what already has integrated in such a fantastic manner that we may call our country multi-cultural' Muslims are considered victims, rather then agressors.
Posted by: anth at June 4, 2004 7:37 AMAgain, did anyone see the news part of the 700 Club last night? It showed the video of Saddams justice being meted out to law breakers (heads being lopped off and hands being severed). You won't see a video on the news channels - I don't even think Fox will air it.
I wonder why people want to put themselves under such a law?
I really feel sorry for the American girl who marries an Islamic. Her not knowing that he's gonna to change from Dr. J to Mr. Hyde in a short while.
USAgirl made mention of "They are free to leave". I remember certain members of Hollywood saying that if Bush won - they'd leave (to Canada) and I bet there are still some that will donate gas money for them to go.
Guess I'll never understand oppressive religion. How is it that Catholicism gets to be what everyone thinks of as "The Church". To me that orginization in no more that what is put forth by Oral Roberts or Jim Jones.
So what is President Bush doing by running off to see 'the Papa' - Why don't he run down and see Jerry Falwell. I'll bet Falwell would tell him it's time to start "taking names and kicking butt"
It takes me 'hours & hours' to read all the posts on this site. I noticed that Arxos said he had to work or get fired, so how is it that the rest of you have so much time to spent on this site - don't you have jobs?
Posted by: Kleo in Anderson at June 4, 2004 10:23 AMKleo in Anderson says: I feel really sorry for a girl who marris an Islamic. He will change from Dr Jekyll to Mr Hyde in a short while. Did anyone read "Not without My Daughter"? That's what happened to a woman who married an Iranian and innocently let their daughter visit her father's family in Iran. She then spent years trying to get her daughter back, including going over herself and pretending that she had converted to Islam. God, what a story of incredible strength of will and bravery! She was locked in a room and was taking the chance of dropping little notes out of the window hoping whoever picked them up would not be a hardcore Islamofascist.
Posted by: Verity at June 4, 2004 11:46 AM

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