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Last week I asked why the major media is ignoring this story. I'll ask again now. From Zenit, with thanks to Y. F. Nordstrøm:
A Catholic Indian citizen was arrested and tortured in Saudi Arabia because of his faith, according to L'Osservatore Romano. ... Brian Savio O'Connor was imprisoned about six months ago by the Mutawa, the Saudi religious police.Taken to the Ali Hira prison in Riyadh, the accused was threatened with death if he did not convert to Islam ...
"Officially the Mutawa has accused O'Connor of using drugs and praying to Jesus Christ, accusations which imply he runs the risk of being punished with the death penalty," the Vatican newspaper stated.
"The family says that the proofs of his use of drugs have been fabricated by the police, while it does not deny that Brian is a good Christian," the newspaper added.
Posted by Robert at June 16, 2004 7:10 AM
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Actually I never thought that I'd ever say this, but I wouldn't mind if muslims were threatened with death unless they became christians.
Of course we don't operate that way. But it seems as if might DOES make right. Somehow I don't think that the meek will inherit the earth.
Posted by: Citizen of the world at June 16, 2004 8:04 AMWell it's just like Ann Coulter said "....invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity..". Saudia Arabia is home to some of the world's most dangerous fanatics. If they do not reform themselves, we will have to force it upon them!
Posted by: Buck at June 16, 2004 9:09 AMThere have been a number of cases such as the above recently. These are the Christian martyrs. They would rather die than renounce their faith...they have displayed bravery and courage that should strengthen us and our resolve to defeat the evil.
Posted by: jawa at June 16, 2004 9:29 AMNow, Liberal media and State Department, write on the blackboard 100,000 times:
The Saudis are our enemies.
Posted by: Cecil at June 16, 2004 11:15 AMHey, wait! I thought all religions were the same! I thought all religions were equally good or equally evil. Where's KJ when you need him?
In sarcasm,
~NMJ
Our Saudi friends.......If there's a more prominent band of two faced liars in the planet, I haven't found them.
Posted by: DCWatson at June 16, 2004 7:26 PMAccording to VOM (Voice of the Martyrs) the man was a cargo agent for Saudi Airlines for the past six years. He was arrested when the police saw that his ID card stated that he is a Christian. He was tortured, chained and hung upside down for seven hours. He was beaten on ribs and chest, and whipped on bottom of feet with an electric wire. He said he does preach the Bible but denied converting Muslims to Christianity. He shares a windowless cell with 16 other prisoners. He has been there for over 10 weeks.
Well that torture doenst seem too bad...I mean at least he had no victorias secret panties on his head, didnt have to cheer on islam in the naked pyramid, didnt have a female muslim laugh at his willy....being beaten, whipped and chained upside down for hours is MUCH more humane...now why werent the US soldiers briefed on muslim "treatment of prisoners"...we could have treated them according to muslim standards and avoided all the fuss....
Ok sarcasm is off....
Posted by: USAgirl at June 16, 2004 11:38 PMSubject: WWW III - While we snooze
: WW III
You have to read the catalogue of events in this brief piece.
Then, ask yourself how anyone can take the position that all we have to do is bring our troops home from Iraq, sit back, re-set the snooze alarm, go back to sleep, and no one will ever bother us again.
In case you missed it, World War III began in November 1979... that alarm has been ringing for years.
U.S. Navy Captain Ouimette is the Executive Officer at Naval Air Station, Pensacola, Florida. Here is a copy of the speech he gave last month. It is an accurate account of why we are in so much trouble today and why this action is so necessary.
AMERICA NEEDS TO WAKE UP!
That's what we think we heard on the 11th of September 2001 (When more than 3,000 Americans were killed -AD) and maybe it was, but I think it should have been "Get Out of Bed!" In fact, I think the alarm clock has been buzzing since 1979 and we have continued to hit the snooze button and roll over for a few more minutes of peaceful sleep since then.
It was a cool fall day in November 1979 in a country going through a religious and political upheaval when a group of Iranian students attacked and seized the American Embassy in Tehran. This seizure was an outright attack on American soil; it was an attack that held the world's most powerful country hostage and paralyzed a Presidency. The attack on this sovereign U. S. embassy set the stage for events to follow for the next 23 years.
America was still reeling from the aftermath of the Vietnam experience and had a serious threat from the Soviet Union when then, President Carter, had to do something. He chose to conduct a clandestine raid in the desert.
The ill-fated mission ended in ruin, but stood as a symbol of America's inability to deal with terrorism.
America's military had been decimated and downsized/right sized since the end of the Vietnam War. A poorly trained, poorly equipped and poorly organized military was called on to execute a complex mission that was doomed from the start.
Shortly after the Tehran experience, Americans began to be kidnapped and killed throughout the Middle East. America could do little to protect her citizens living and working abroad. The attacks against US soil continued.
In April of 1983 a large vehicle packed with high explosives was driven into the US Embassy compound in Beirut. When it explodes, it kills 63 people. The alarm went off again and America hit the Snooze Button once more.
Then just six short months later a large truck heavily laden down with over 2500 pounds of TNT smashed through the main gate of the US Marine Corps headquarters in Beirut and 241 US servicemen are killed. America mourns her dead and hit the Snooze Button once more.
Two months later in December 1983, another truck loaded with explosives is driven into the US Embassy in Kuwait, and America continues her slumber.
The following year, in September 1984, another van was driven into the gates of the US Embassy in Beirut and America slept.
Soon the terrorism spreads to Europe. In April 1985 a bomb explodes in a restaurant frequented by US soldiers in Madrid.
Then in August a Volkswagen loaded with explosives is driven into the main gate of the US Air Force Base at Rhein-Main, 22 are killed and the snooze alarm is buzzing louder and louder as US interests are continually attacked.
Fifty-nine days later a cruise ship, the Achille Lauro is hijacked and we watched as an American in a wheelchair is singled out of the passenger list and executed.
The terrorists then shift their tactics to bombing civilian airliners when they bomb TWA Flight 840 in April of 1986 that killed 4 and the most tragic bombing, Pan Am Flight 103 over Lockerbie, Scotland in 1988, killing 259.
Clinton treated these terrorist acts as crimes; in fact we are still trying to bring these people to trial. These are acts of war.
The wake up alarm is getting louder and louder. The terrorists decide to bring the fight to America. In January 1993, two CIA agents are shot and killed as they enter CIA headquarters in Langley, Virginia.
The following month, February 1993, a group of terrorists are arrested after a rented van packed with explosives is driven into the underground parking garage of the World Trade Center in New York City. Six people are killed and over 1000 are injured. Still this is a crime and not an act of war?
The Snooze alarm is depressed again.
Then in November 1995 a car bomb explodes at a US military complex in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia killing seven service men and women.
A few months later in June of 1996, another truck bomb explodes only 35 yards from the US military compound in Dhahran, Saudi Arabia. It destroys the Khobar Towers, a US Air Force barracks, killing 19 and injuring over 500. The terrorists are getting braver and smarter as they see that America does not respond decisively.
They move to coordinate their attacks in a simultaneous attack on two US embassies in Kenya and Tanzania. These attacks were planned with precision. They kill 224. America responds with cruise missile attacks and goes back to sleep.
The USS Cole was docked in the port of Aden, Yemen for refueling on 12 October 2000, when a small craft pulled along side the ship and exploded killing 17 US Navy Sailors. Attacking a US War Ship is an act of war, but we sent the FBI to investigate the crime and went back to sleep.
And of course you know the events of 11 September 2001. Most Americans think this was the first attack against US soil or in America. How wrong they are.
America has been under a constant attack since 1979 and we chose to hit the snooze alarm and roll over and go back to sleep.
In the news lately we have seen lots of finger pointing from every high officials in government over what they knew and what they didn't know. But if you've read the papers and paid a little attention I think you can see exactly what they knew. You don't have to be in the FBI or CIA or on the National Security Council to see the pattern that has been developing since 1979.
The President is right on when he says we are engaged in a war. I think we have been in a war for the past 23 years and it will continue until we as a people decide enough is enough.
America needs to "Get out of Bed" and act decisively now. America has been changed forever. We have to be ready to pay the price and make the sacrifice to ensure our way of life continues. We cannot afford to keep hitting the snooze button again and again and roll over and go back to sleep.
After the attack on Pearl Harbor, Admiral Yamamoto said "...it seems all we have done is awakened a sleeping giant." This is the message we need to disseminate to terrorists around the world.
Support Our Troops and support President Bush for having the courage, political or militarily, to address what so many who preceded him didn't have the backbone to do both Democrat and Republican. This is not a political thing to be hashed over in an election year this is an AMERICAN thing. This is about our Freedom and the Freedom of our children in years to come.
Please forward this to as many people as you can especially to the young people and all those who dozed off in history class and who seem so quick to protest such a necessary military action.
Posted by: onesandzeroes at June 17, 2004 12:08 AMOnesandzeroes
I think that World War 3 began when Islam was created, 1600 years ago.
Posted by: Citizen of the world at June 17, 2004 2:14 AMInvading places to forcibly convert Muslims to Christianity would be the classic case of gaining the world but losing one's own soul.
Posted by: Kepha at June 17, 2004 11:24 PMAgreed, Kepha. I think most people mean that humorously. At least that's the spirit which the original comment was delivered in (Ann Coulter) and that's how I take it.
Posted by: NoMoreJihad at June 18, 2004 4:37 PMNO-NO-NO!!!!
We don't need things that are lesser than insects converting to Christianity.
And believe me cutting off a human head with a knife makes you a freakin' thing.
Fuck these mooooslims - We should have used tactical nukes during the war on Afghanistan - Feed their poor and hungry PORK and shit from airplanes on Mecca.
Have a nice day!
Posted by: The Crusader at June 20, 2004 12:44 AM..BEFORE WE ENTER THE KINGDOM OF SAUDI ARABIA,,WE CAN READ THE RULEZ AND REGULATION OF THE COUNTRY..BUT WHY DO WE STILL NEED TO ARGUE ABOUT IT?...IF THE RULE SAYS NEVER BRING OTHER RELIGION OR DRUGS INTO THE COUNTRY..DATS HOW IT SAYS..
.SO THE MAIN THING HERE IS ARE WE EDUCATED ENOUGH TO ABIDE THE RULES OF THE COUNTRY?..
NO ISLAM OR CHRISTIAN...
NO ONE IS ABOVE THE LAW
.I SEE MANY PEOPLE HERE THEY ARE SAUDI'S BUT IF THEY DO SAME THING THEY GUNA PUT THE RULE INTO THEIR HEAD..
SO ALL WE NID TO DO IS ABIDE THE RULE A ND LEAVE PEACEFULY ..WE DIDNT GO TO THE COUNTRY TO PUT OUR RELIGION BUT TO MAKE AND EARN MONEY IF YOU ARE A CHRISTIAN OR MUSLIM TAKE IT WITH YOU..
TRUE STRENGHT AND FAITH DOESNT COME FROM THE ARMS IT COMES FROM OUR HEARTS..
I READ MANY OF YOU HATE ISLAM/..BUT U NEVER SAW WAT ISLAM HAD DONE FOR YOU..
WHY PEOPLE OF THE WORLD KIP THEIR MOUTH SHUT WEN THEY SAW CHILDRENS WOMEN KILLED..IN PALESTINE..IS IT BECAUSE..THEY ARE MUSLIM?AND THEY DONT HAVE THE RIGHT TO LIVE?
WHY IF THE AMERICANS OR OTHER COUNTRY IS BEING BOMB BY THE TERRORIST WHY THE WORLD CRY?
IS IT BEACAUSE THEY ARE CHRISTIANS?..
IS IT UNFAIR?
TAKE A GOOD LOOK INTO THIS SITUATIONS...
DONT GENERALIZE EVERYTHING...
BE NORMAL GUYZ...
GOD BLESS
Posted by: REVOLUTIONARIES at June 20, 2004 3:44 PM

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