North, south, east, west, young, old, fat, thin, moderate, extremists, all Muslims read from the same books: Koran and hadiths which exalt jihad and, if not overtly, say "Yeah, team!, " when jihadists are able to overcome non-Muslims, whether by bullets or by the book. They all bat for the same team and will all benefit by world Islamization.

Mr. Edrogan is also trying to make education from religious Islamic schools equal to education from secular colleges.

That country is NOT welcome in the EU.

http://www.secularislam.org/discussion35/Default.htm

Turkey under Ergodn gives every sign of slipping further and further away from Kemalism. American foreign policy should be based on that understanding, not on a view formed by what Turkey was 10 or 20 years ago. In Washington a few months ago, Erdogan spoke at A.E.I. and was introduced by Richard Perle. Perle, like so many in Washington, does not see, or know, "Turkey." His views of that country have been formed based on meetings with the completely secular Turks who, until recently, dominated in the government. He, and they, may not realize what is happening in Turkey; they seem unaware of the effort to re-islamize the country, including the effect of re-islamized Turk guest-workers in Germany. They do not go to Konya.

And just like ordinary touritsts, aside from the Defense Ministry and those airbases that could not be used during the invasion of Iraq, the only part of Turkey they really know is Instabul, and not even all of Instanbul. They see Topkapi, Hagia Sophia, Taksim Square, the Blue Mosque and Sulaimaniya, Kariye Djami if they are art lovers, the hippodrome, and so on. They are accompanied always by secularist Turks, who may dissmiss, to foreigners, Erdogan and his ilk.

Keep in mind Erdogan's famous remark, which he has attempted absurdly to explain away, of a few years ago. It has not been forgotten in Europe, and was used by Anne-Marie Delcambre to close her excellent guide "L'Islam des interdits" (2003): "The minarets are our bayonets, the domes [of the mosques] our helmets, the mosques our barracks."

I have mentioned in other postings that now is the time to prepare for the rejection of Turkey by the EU. The way in which that rejection is understood will have great consuquences. Will Erdogan and others be able to present it as a result of a vicious anti-Islam campaign, and whip up more Islamic fervor as a result, and further distance Turkey, as they wish, from the United States and Israel, the "Infidel" states which they find it unnatrual to have an alliance with. Or will the American government, together with Turkish secularists, plan NOW for that likely rejection, and to put the blame where it belongs: on the behavior chiefly of Arab Muslims, who have caused a great and justified fear of Islam in Western Europe. In other words, will that rejection be exploited successfully by the Islamists, to draw Turkey back into the Muslim fold (even if it means alliances with despised Arabs), or will it be used to cause a renewal of the Kemalist impulse, a strengthening of secularism, an awareness akin to that of Mustafa Kemal that Islam, in whatever form, is retrograde, the enemy of free and skeptical inquiry without which neither science, nor art, are possible.

The inattention to Turkey, the failure to see that Ergodan is not Ataturk, or Inonu, or Ecevit, is worrisome, It reflects the American inability, it seems, to focus on more than one problem at a time: Iraq now being that problem. But Turkey's backsliding, and the way its rejection by the EU can be exploited by both Islamic and secularist forces in Turkey (and for which preparation must be made), has to be noted, not dismissed. It is not first on the list -- Iran's nuclear weapons take pride of place, but it is high.

What could have been done in Iraq that is of value to American national security, to eliminate the military potential of Saddam Hussein, and to relieve the Iraqis, such as they are, from his particular brand of murderousness, has already been accomplished. To remain there, and to allow that to get in the way of the larger Jihad, which linkes Abu Sayyaf in the Philippines to Lashkar-e-Toiba in Pakistan to Hamas and Hezbollah in Israel to....well, the men behind the mosques in Paris, Rome, London, and possibly your meighborhood. The war against Jihad requires the ability to simultaneously plan, and act, in a dozen or a hundred diffeent areas; it requires propaganda finesse, economic warfare, education of one's own innocent population as to the central tenets of Islam (and if the government continues to be so inhibited, then private foundations should come to the rescue -- making it a priority, support for those in Western Europe who either see, or on the way to seeing, the nature of the problem, a complete halt to Muslim migration to the lands of the Infidels, even close monitoring of those who are chosen to teach Arabic to potential CIA and other agents (when Russian was taught, it was taught by thsoe who hated the Soviet Union; Arabic is more often taught by those who are sly apologists for Islam, and for the Jihad -- this is a scandalous situation). People of greater mental suppleness, and education, are now needed. They are seldom to be found in the hothouse atmosphere of Washington, with the Bright Young and Not-So-Young Things, those products of assorted degree programs in "international studies," think-tanks both left and right, "experts" of the portentous Cordesman model, or their younger versions.

Religion of 'No Adjectives Allowed'

Could it be that Bernard Lewis is going to go public, more and more, with what he undoubtedly knows to be true about Islam (even if he continues to give insufficient attention, or weight, to the scholarship of Bat Ye'or and those like her), and that his teeny contretempts with Erdogan, over the most obvious of phrases, will lead him to reconsider his stout defense of Turkey, based on personal and professional ties to Kemalist Turkey (Ottomanists and Osmanlis), a Turkey which -- it may be clear from Erdogan's recent behavior -- is now receding into myth?

Excellent post, Hugh!

I too see a bad moon rising over Turkey. As the whole world tends toward extremism in whatever local flavor prevails, Turkey will morph into another Jew bashing, authoritarian, theocratic hellhole. What a shame, too. The most "progressive" Muslim nation, driven to barbarianism by a few well-placed millions of dollars by Saudi Arabia et al.

At least Turkey was able to keep up with Attaturk's (sp?) vision for this long. The religious nuts I used to argue with at college would tell me that Attaturk was actually a Zionist Jew, and that he trampled the rights of women by outlawing the veil.

Anyway, Turkey may already be too far gone for help now. At least the liberalism of Attaturk lasted MUCH longer than that of Mohamed Ali Jinna of Pakistan.

I bet Turkey will still be allowed to join the EU... and why not? We've already allowed Turkey into NATO, haven't we? What I'd like to know is why Israel isn't in NATO. Doing so would end the "current intifada" overnight.

To me, who is an European myself, the most interesting thing about Turkey's EU bid is to notice who has been supporting it. Tony Blair has, as have successive American administrations, including this one. And the Israelis, who have a "Strategic Partnership" with Turkey. The UK, the USA, and Israel. The "good guys", according to accepted LGF/JihadWatch logic. The ones most opposed to it have been the French, including a former French PM who said it would mean "the end of Europe". And the Germans, actually. In this case, I find myself strongly on the side of the French and the Germans.

In Denmark some of our politicans have rescently said lout : we don`t want Tyrkey in the Union - And we the ordinary Danes remember Iran and how fast she became ultra Islamic.
Every country in Europe is in great trouble.
And that because the muslims in EU are breading 6-7-8 children and the natives 1-2.
What is to come ??

Keithjoy, I too am afraid that Turkey will eventually be allowed into the EU. The Turks also seem to have understood that Europeans these days bascially give in to any demands. Why not issue some threats?

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=story_22-5-2004_pg4_2

Turkish PM threatens European Union with Muslim backlash

Rejection of Turkey by the European Union would provoke a backlash in the wider Muslim world and increase the risk of a "clash of civilisations", PM Erdogan was quoted as saying on Friday. "(If rejected), my people's ... attitude toward the West will change ... (And the wider Muslim world) will say the West is not ready to integrate with people who do not share the same faith with them."

http://news.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2004/05/18/weu18.xml

Tony Blair yesterday called on the European Union not to place any obstacles in the way of Turkey's bid to join. Blair made clear that he believes negotiations with the Turks should be opened formally in December. The Prime Minister, who is determined to bind the first Islamic democracy into the community, said he was "proud" to have consistently championed the cause of Turkish accession.

If Muslims commit terror with impunity worldwide in the name of Islam then they are ISLAMIC TERRORISTS— nothing more, nothing less!

Extremists Using Web to Spread Terror

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040613/ap_on_re_mi_ea/bahrain_militants_online_2

American foreign policy vis a vis issues like the EU and Turkey is created by the State Dept. with little input from American voters or our elected representatives. Unfortunately the State Dept. is full of Saudi sympathizers. Many former State employees go on to accept fat "consulting contracts" from the Saudis to ease their retirement.

We need to start a campaign to reverse the US support for Turkey's entrance into the EU. It will mean the end of Europe as a culture and the end of democracy in Europe. Europe will become a Third World, poverty-stricken, authoritarian backwater.

This may be Europe's fate anyways, in recognition of the large number of irredentist and unassimilable Muslims they've already let into their countries, but admitting Turkey would definitely hasten the day of reckoning by a huge amount.

This from a Turkish website:

http://www.musluman.net/news.asp?id=89

A geological group who drilled a hole about 14.4 kilometers deep in the crust of the earth are saying that they heard human screams. Screams have been heard from the condemned souls from earth's deepest hole. Terrified scientists are afraid they have let loose the evil powers of hell up to the earth's surface.

'The last discovery was nevertheless the most shocking to our ears, so much so that the scientists are afraid to continue the project. We tried to listen to the earth's movements at certain intervals with supersensitive microphones, which were let down through the hole. What we heard turned those logically thinking scientists into a trembling ruins. It was a sometimes a weak, but high pitched sound which we thought to be coming from our own equipment,' explained Dr Azzacov.

'But after some adjustments we comprehended that indeed the sound came from the earth's interior. We could hardly believe our own ears. We heard a human voice, screaming in pain. Even though one voice was discernible, we could hear thousands, perhaps millions, in the background, of suffering souls screaming. After this ghastly discovery, about half of the scientists quit because of fear. Hopefully, that which is down there will stay there,' Dr Azzacov added.

'What really unnerved the Soviets, apart from the voice recordings, was the appearance that same night of a fountainhead of luminous gas shooting up from the drill site, and out of the midst of this incandescent cloud pillar a brilliant being with bat wings revealed itself with the words (in Russian): 'I have conquered,' emblazoned against the dark Siberian sky.

Yeah, let's let this nation into the EU.......

The support by the U.S., Tony Blair, and Israel for Turkey's admission into the EU is based on several false ideas.

One is the notion that Kemalism defines Turkey, and that Turkey is now and forever a "moderate" Musli country, which is to say -- a country where Islam has been constrained. But Kemalism is always under assault, always in danger of being subverted. When Erdogan refuses to discuss the Armenian massacres (as he did recently in Washington), when he withdraws his ambassador to Israel and parrots Arab claims about the mistreatment of the "Palestinians" (surely the Turks know what that area, as part of the Ottoman lands, was -- and that no "Palestinian people" existed then, or now), and now when he threatens islamic retaliation if Turkey is rejected for EU membership, he shows exactly what he is about.

The Frenchman mentioned by Ali Dashti in a posting above was the late Giscard d'Estaing. Yes, it is curious that the French, who have been the moving force behind the creation of "Eurabia," should want to keep Turkey out (the French, of course, now know -- a little late -- what allowing a large Muslim population means for Europe, and the Arabs are far worse, far more dangerous, far less susceptible of integration, than the Arabs whom the French now must somehow deal with, or pretend to deal with).The Germans, of course, have their own experience with the gastarbeiten, the guestworkers, who turned out to come to stay, and who, deracinated, began to embrace Islam in its "pure" and therefore most dangerous form, unconstrained by the Kemalist laws, unmediated by the softening effects of what is called "civilisation."

Those who have taken Turkey's side, Wolfowitz, Perle, et al., have failed to understand, and still do not understand, the full significance of the tenets of Islam. Wolfowitz is an arms analayst. Richard Perle, for all of his gifts, still applies the kind of logic that fits the Soviet enemy, but not an enemy whose main weapon, a weapon that cannot be modified and cannot be destroyed, is a belief-system that is far more malevolent toward all Infidels than he, whose immediate experience of Islam are those charming Turkish military men and ambassadors who are hardly representative of "Islam," can possibly comprehend. It is certainly a topsy-turvy world, where the so-called tough-minded men of the Pentagon are soft-minded in their own way -- for they, too, fail to understand that the problem is not Bin Laden, but the entire Muslim world, to precisely the extent that it is Muslim. Their failure to focus on shoring up Kemalism, and on splitting Western Europe from the Arabs and also limiting, and reducing, the Muslim population of Europe (which will require some unpleasant truths not only to be faced, but to begin to be expressed, in necessarily cunning fashion), is the same failure that their post-war Iraq policy is based on: an insufficient appreciation for Islam, which will rally Muslims even against the kindest Infidel soldiers and contractors, there only to now put their country back together again, and as they do so, being shot at and bombed, and their mutilated corpses serving as an attractive spectacle for Msulim mobs -- with the same kind of mutilatiion that can be seen in Riyadh, or Ramallah, or in a thousand incidents from Muslim history, including the beheading, while Muhammad watched, of the prisoners taken among the Bani Qurayza, or the mountains of eyeballs that were formed from those defeated in the Arab-Persian wars, or even the mutilation of Hussein's body, that Hussein who is revered by the Shi'a.

Hugh - In all honesty, you should be directing the war against jihad or at least giving advice to those who do.

I second that, epg. Hugh for President! Should you ever become US President, can I run the State Departement? I would do some cleaning up, I can guarantee you that.

Mr. Spencer and Hugh:

I only hope your voices reach the right ears in time...

Is the probability of an islamic iranian style revolution more likely in Turkey under the EU or in its present state ?

Subject: WWW III - While we snooze

: WW III

You have to read the catalogue of events in this brief piece.

Then, ask yourself how anyone can take the position that all we have to do is bring our troops home from Iraq, sit back, re-set the snooze alarm, go back to sleep, and no one will ever bother us again.

In case you missed it, World War III began in November 1979... that alarm has been ringing for years.

U.S. Navy Captain Ouimette is the Executive Officer at Naval Air Station, Pensacola, Florida. Here is a copy of the speech he gave last month. It is an accurate account of why we are in so much trouble today and why this action is so necessary.

AMERICA NEEDS TO WAKE UP!

That's what we think we heard on the 11th of September 2001 (When more than 3,000 Americans were killed -AD) and maybe it was, but I think it should have been "Get Out of Bed!" In fact, I think the alarm clock has been buzzing since 1979 and we have continued to hit the snooze button and roll over for a few more minutes of peaceful sleep since then.

It was a cool fall day in November 1979 in a country going through a religious and political upheaval when a group of Iranian students attacked and seized the American Embassy in Tehran. This seizure was an outright attack on American soil; it was an attack that held the world's most powerful country hostage and paralyzed a Presidency. The attack on this sovereign U. S. embassy set the stage for events to follow for the next 23 years.

America was still reeling from the aftermath of the Vietnam experience and had a serious threat from the Soviet Union when then, President Carter, had to do something. He chose to conduct a clandestine raid in the desert.

The ill-fated mission ended in ruin, but stood as a symbol of America's inability to deal with terrorism.

America's military had been decimated and downsized/right sized since the end of the Vietnam War. A poorly trained, poorly equipped and poorly organized military was called on to execute a complex mission that was doomed from the start.

Shortly after the Tehran experience, Americans began to be kidnapped and killed throughout the Middle East. America could do little to protect her citizens living and working abroad. The attacks against US soil continued.

In April of 1983 a large vehicle packed with high explosives was driven into the US Embassy compound in Beirut. When it explodes, it kills 63 people. The alarm went off again and America hit the Snooze Button once more.

Then just six short months later a large truck heavily laden down with over 2500 pounds of TNT smashed through the main gate of the US Marine Corps headquarters in Beirut and 241 US servicemen are killed. America mourns her dead and hit the Snooze Button once more.

Two months later in December 1983, another truck loaded with explosives is driven into the US Embassy in Kuwait, and America continues her slumber.

The following year, in September 1984, another van was driven into the gates of the US Embassy in Beirut and America slept.

Soon the terrorism spreads to Europe. In April 1985 a bomb explodes in a restaurant frequented by US soldiers in Madrid.

Then in August a Volkswagen loaded with explosives is driven into the main gate of the US Air Force Base at Rhein-Main, 22 are killed and the snooze alarm is buzzing louder and louder as US interests are continually attacked.

Fifty-nine days later a cruise ship, the Achille Lauro is hijacked and we watched as an American in a wheelchair is singled out of the passenger list and executed.

The terrorists then shift their tactics to bombing civilian airliners when they bomb TWA Flight 840 in April of 1986 that killed 4 and the most tragic bombing, Pan Am Flight 103 over Lockerbie, Scotland in 1988, killing 259.

Clinton treated these terrorist acts as crimes; in fact we are still trying to bring these people to trial. These are acts of war.

The wake up alarm is getting louder and louder. The terrorists decide to bring the fight to America. In January 1993, two CIA agents are shot and killed as they enter CIA headquarters in Langley, Virginia.

The following month, February 1993, a group of terrorists are arrested after a rented van packed with explosives is driven into the underground parking garage of the World Trade Center in New York City. Six people are killed and over 1000 are injured. Still this is a crime and not an act of war?

The Snooze alarm is depressed again.

Then in November 1995 a car bomb explodes at a US military complex in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia killing seven service men and women.

A few months later in June of 1996, another truck bomb explodes only 35 yards from the US military compound in Dhahran, Saudi Arabia. It destroys the Khobar Towers, a US Air Force barracks, killing 19 and injuring over 500. The terrorists are getting braver and smarter as they see that America does not respond decisively.

They move to coordinate their attacks in a simultaneous attack on two US embassies in Kenya and Tanzania. These attacks were planned with precision. They kill 224. America responds with cruise missile attacks and goes back to sleep.

The USS Cole was docked in the port of Aden, Yemen for refueling on 12 October 2000, when a small craft pulled along side the ship and exploded killing 17 US Navy Sailors. Attacking a US War Ship is an act of war, but we sent the FBI to investigate the crime and went back to sleep.

And of course you know the events of 11 September 2001. Most Americans think this was the first attack against US soil or in America. How wrong they are.

America has been under a constant attack since 1979 and we chose to hit the snooze alarm and roll over and go back to sleep.

In the news lately we have seen lots of finger pointing from every high officials in government over what they knew and what they didn't know. But if you've read the papers and paid a little attention I think you can see exactly what they knew. You don't have to be in the FBI or CIA or on the National Security Council to see the pattern that has been developing since 1979.

The President is right on when he says we are engaged in a war. I think we have been in a war for the past 23 years and it will continue until we as a people decide enough is enough.

America needs to "Get out of Bed" and act decisively now. America has been changed forever. We have to be ready to pay the price and make the sacrifice to ensure our way of life continues. We cannot afford to keep hitting the snooze button again and again and roll over and go back to sleep.

After the attack on Pearl Harbor, Admiral Yamamoto said "...it seems all we have done is awakened a sleeping giant." This is the message we need to disseminate to terrorists around the world.

Support Our Troops and support President Bush for having the courage, political or militarily, to address what so many who preceded him didn't have the backbone to do both Democrat and Republican. This is not a political thing to be hashed over in an election year this is an AMERICAN thing. This is about our Freedom and the Freedom of our children in years to come.

Please forward this to as many people as you can especially to the young people and all those who dozed off in history class and who seem so quick to protest such a necessary military action.

Onesandzeroes

Why has America allowed Afghanistan to become an Islamic republic, if it went their to bring democracy and freedom?

Has anyone thought about having a Koran burning? Would anyone be brave enough to do it?

Citizen of the world
I suppose that we have to start some where
Please keep in mind that the above message about WW III came from a Navy Officer - they are his words not mine... though I do agree with him about the need for us to wake up as a nation.
I wonder what Kerry would do?

It seems that liberal, secularist Europe simply doesn't know what it is, or who its friends are.

You know, looking at the information this way, we supporting Turkey in the EU while at the same time the jihadis insist we are serving our "Zionist" masters, is kinda contradictory conspiracy theory.

You know...which is it? Are we Zionist pigs or are we promoting the spread of Islam with the advent of Turkey into EU? Maybe Bush is really an imam and the "Zionist" rumor is just to throw off the rest of the world while the Islamist take over America under the guise of Christian Bush? I mean, he does keep reminding us that Islam is the religion of "peace".
LOL

sorry..wanted to throw out my own conspiracy theory here. Couldn't help myself.

Why burn a Koran? I use free copies given out at mosques for toilet paper.

saves me a bundle every month.

heh.

Weren't Kemal and Ataturk responsible for the Armenian genocide? Didn't they use Islamic fervor to slaughter the Christian Armenians?

Why are Kemal and Ataturk, two murderers whom Hitler copied so revered? I really don't understand it.

Just one more thing:

I like Bernard Lewis. One of my professors said, "oh, he's the darling of the current administration". I think he is actually kind to Islam in his writings; he is quite objective I think.

Please email me with any thoughts about him if you wish.

Bernard Lewis is an acute scholar about many aspects of Islam; he writes beautifully. He is well-trained in languages. He lived during the war in Egypt. He is lionized in Turkey, and even in small shops off Taksim Square the proprietors, when they discover a visitor is from the United States, ask if that visitor may happen to know "Professor Lewis."

He has all the right enemies -- the absurd Said, who knew nothing about Islam but for some reason thought his being an Arab entitled him to act as an expert (the footnote alone, on "thawra," in Lewis' "The Question of Orientalism," is enough to delicately dismember all of Said's pretentions; he does not survive the essay); the apologist Esposito, who is not fit to be mentioned at the same time as Lewis (Esposito is an out-and-out apologist, an ignoramus, and the producer of glossy picture-books about Islam that win the reader over, and distract from the apologetic or vapid texts he has chosen, with plenty of local color -- venerable mosques, turbans and Iznik tulips, the usual Mughal miniatures of hunting scenes, or Majnoun and Leyla, an apothecary jar or two from Abbassid Baghdad, the obligatory Persian poetry in nastaliq, and of course the Dome of the Rock -- while so many subjects, including Jihad and the treatment of non-Muslims under Islam, are yet again ignored, or minimized to the point of disappearance.

In Lewis' long academic career in England, he was not listened to sufficiently by the Foreign Office, and their insulting behavior (stemming from antisemitism) could not but affect him. He clearly enjoys being appreciated (who does not?). He enjoys, on his visits to the Middle East, being made much of by Turkish or Arab hosts. If you had spent years learning, and learning well, certain languages, and the only people who could fully appreciate your achievement were, say, Muslim Arabs, or quasi-Muslim Turks, and if they seemed to you to talk a good game of "moderate" Islam (in the case of the Turks, it was meant), you too might not wish to offend those colleagues, those friends, those hosts and patrons. Some may find it telling that Lewis has reproduced, for both his book of translations from the Turkish, Persian, Hebrew, and Arabic, and for his latest collection of articles, "From Babel to Dragomans", a photograph that shows him sitting in his Western dress -- he never stoops to the clownish indignity of going native like the mythomane Lawrence, or St. John Philby, or dozens of others -- in the tent, or something like it, that belongs to none other than the Hashemite Prince Hassan ibn Talal, that plummy-voiced "dialogue-of-civilisations" apologist for Islam (the most plausible, the most outwardly pleasing, the most subtle, and therefore the most convincing and dangerous of such apologists); that photograph, that desire to have that photograph used on two of his books, might be taken simply as a way to show the members of MESA that -- look, the real Arabs know that I tell them the truth.

Lewis in various interviews does seem pleased that he can address two audiences at the same time. "He doth bestride the world like a colossus." He is proud of the fact that so many of his books have been translated into Turkish, Arabic, Farsi. But the truth is: you cannot write with two audiences in mind, one of the Muslim, the other non-Muslim. That Muslim audience is so prickly, so defensive, so unwilling to admit to the events of its own history (the unwillingness, for example, to even read the scholarship of Bat Ye'or, even among the so-called advanced Arabs in the West, is absolutely flabbergasting), that Lewis finds himself at every turn, either pulling his punches, or enveloping the thought in veils of velleities. It is not a case of being fortiter in re, suaviter in modo. He is suave in his prose all right, but that suavity is not wrapped around a sufficient amount of truthful iron.

He is attempting a trick that cannot be achieved. You cannot write simultaneously for an audience of Muslims (to get them to see, gently, and with constant, almost formulaic, reassurance about the "greatness" of high classical Islamic civilization -- which Lewis always describes, wrongly, as being far above any other civilisation of the time -- has he forgotten China? And does he still accept the older cliches about the "Dark Ages"? He is a poor historian who appeals to the self-esteem problem of part of his audience; that is not the historian's task.

Lewis now seems, at last, to be fully recognized, and triumphant. But is he? He was an enthusiastic supporter of the disastrous Oslo Accords. It is understandable why people such as Clinton, or Tom Friedman, or all the others who know nothing about Islam, should believe in the efficacy of such negotiations and such treaties. But Lewis -- who knows all about the rules of Muslim jurisprudence regarding "treaties" with Infidel peoples and polities, and knows perfectly well why every treaty Israel has ever signed with an Arab state has been violated, sometimes completely, and knows too the significance of the Treaty of al-Hudaiybiyya, which Arafat so frequently mentioned to his Muslim audiences -- what is Lewis' excuse for supporting, so loudly and for so long, the Oslo folly?

Lewis describes the series of political, legal, financial, social, sumptuary, and other disablities placed on dhimmis in quite brisk terms, usually limiting himself to a word or two about the jizya and "other disabilities." He does not stop to really go into the whole monstrous system, or to quizzically ask what that phrase "protected peoples" might mean, or how it was that everywhere that Islam conquered, the treatment of dhimmis, whether they were Christians or Jews or Zoroastrians or even Hindus or Buddhists -- was remarkably the same, and in all cases the post-conquest (i.e. post-Jihad) institution of dhimmitude led to the enforced status of degradation, humiliation, and permanent insecurity (including intermittent massacres that Lewis hardly ever refers to) on all of these non-Muslim peoples.

Lewis himself must, more and more, have come to see -- especially as his beloved Turkey slides away from Kemalism -- that in certain essentials he got it wrong. He actually got Islam wrong. He underestimated its malevolence. He underestimated the difficulty of reform. He took as representative men the scholars, or the well-educated exiles, who came out of that world but were about as representative of it as Stravinsky, Balanchine, and Nabokov could have been said to represent Soviet Russia. He was wrong; he was wrong on the Oslo Accords; he was wrong in his political advertisement (written with James Woolsey) to promote Prince Hassan to be a new king for Iraq; he remains wrong if he thinks that the United States should continue to be preoccupied with Iraq, when there are so many other ways to expose the political, economic, moral, and intellectual failures of Islam -- which in the long run, is the only thing which will cause, from within, the engendering of lots of local Ataturks, who may work to constrain or limit Islam, as its sacred texts, including the authoritative recensions of hadith, are immutable.

Lewis was asked some years ago by the TLS to review Ibn Warraq's "Why I Am Not a Muslim." He dawdled and dithered; by the time he told them he just could not do it, it was too late, in the opinion of the TLS, to run any review. Contrast that with how the lefist, even Marxist French scholar of Islam, Maxine Rodinson, treated the same book. He was given it to review by Le Monde, which assumed that Rodinson, known for his tiersmondiste sympathies (which probably explains why Edward Said gave an enthusiastic blurb to Rodinson's quite crticial book on Muhammad -- but then Said was known to provide enthusastic blurbs for hundreds of books he never opened, but just guessed as to their general direction; his endorsements were spread around like confetti, and even cheaper). But Rodinson produced a favorable review, much to the chagrin of the editors at Le Monde -- and they, acting true to Stalinist form, simply refused to print the review (it can be found in Rodinson's other publications).

But how could Lewis, after all, praise Ibn Warraq publicly? And he could not publicly deny that the book had great merit, either. So best to finesse; delay like Kutuzov; the mere passage of time will solve the problem; solve it, Time did, and consequently that book, one of the most important in recent decades, never received a review in the TLS.

It is fascinating to compare the behavior of Lewis with two other scholars of roughly the same age and status. S. D. Goitein wrote his celebrated "A Mediterranean Society" based on his detailed study of the papers found in the Cairo Geniza -- a record of the Jewish community in Cairo, and not only in Cairo, that extended over many centuries. Goitein, who earlier had had a kind of sympathetic, almost sentimental interest in promoting the idea of the natural sympathies and similarities of Muslims and Jews, was severely chastened by his last decades of scholarship. If there was one thing, he wrote, about which he had to revise his opinion, it was about the severity of the jizyah. He now realized what a terrible burden it was, especially on the poor non-Muslims. Just before he died, Goitein was preparing a favorable review of Bat Ye'or.

Even at their advanced ages, both Rodinson and Goitein were willing to break, in pat, with their own pasts, to declare that new evidence, and final summings-up, had led them to conclusions that were not nearly as favorable to Islam as they might once have hoped. Goitein's study of the Cairo Geniza led him to rethink the problem of the dhimmi, to reconsider his old pieties and sentimentalities. Rodinson, who had been (of course) a great defender of the Arabs against French colonialism, a die-hard tiersmondiste, a Marxist, found that Ibn Warraq's relentless assault on Islam, above all for its intellectual constraints and failures, deserved the highest praise -- and he was willing to disappoint his editors at Le Monde in insisting that they either publish his enthusiastic review, or squash it altogether (of course, they squashed it).

Lewis himself once wrote an essay that identified the philo-Islamic strain in Jewish Orientalists who found what seemed to be the more welcoming world of Islam, compared to the brutalities inflicted on Jews by Western Christendom. He was good at diagnosis, but not as good at self-diagnosis. He has never quite described, for his many admirers and his wide audience, the full panoply of disabilities placed on non-Muslims under Islam, usually being content with a sentence or two about the "jizya" and "other disabilities."

Lewis has in the past been unwilling to endorse the scholarship of Bat Ye'or, describing it as "too polemical." Really? If the scrupulous scholarship of "The Decline of Eastern Christianity Under Islam" is too polemical (is that a word which one applies when scholarship is sometimes informed with passion?), what of all the scholarship on which that book rests? What of Arakel of Tabriz? Or Armand Abel? Or Charles Dufourcq? Or Levi-Provencal? Or what about the scholarship that Bat Ye'or did not use, that of Mary Boyce on the Muslim treatment of Zoroastrians, or K. S. Lal on the Muslim treatment of Hindus?

Bat Ye'or managed both to create a work of scholarship and analysis, much of which was original to her, as well as a synthesis of a large amount of scholarly literature -- by French, German, Armenian, Greek, Bulgarian, Romanian, and other scholars -- scholarship which does not paint quite the picture of the Ottomans as that which Lewis has favored. Not that he has ever been an openm apologist for Islam, but he has failed to convey, in book after book, the real nature and horror of dhimmitude. To describe, for example, the forced levy of Christian children by the Turks, as a "recruitment" (which to the modern mind evokes mental images of college or army recruiters dangling inducements), which was often envied by the Muslim parents, is to ignore the scholarship, by scholars from parts of Europe once under Ottoman rule, detailing the fear and horror of such events as the devshirme levy. The subject of dhimmitude has not been part of Lewis' main bailiwick. It is one thing not to treat of a subject, quite another to mislead as to its real significance; quite another still to simply shut out of serious consideration a lonely scholar, outside the regular academic system, who has produced the body of work that Bat Ye'or has produced, and continues to produce.

One hesitates to criticize Lewis for this because of the disgraceful treatment of him by the members of MESA (the MIddle Eastern Studies Association). Their relation to Lewis reminds me of a story that the late Tibor Szamuely once wrote in The Spectator. He described a functionary, the compleat chinovnik, of the Soviet Writers' Union, giving a speech in Tula, famed for its samovars, in the southwest of Moscow. "In bad old Czarist days," he intoned, "we had only one writer from Tula Province." And then he noted proudly: "But now, but now we have 3,247 members of the Union of Soviet Writers from Tula Province alone." (Wild cheering, laughter, applause).

Szamuely drily added: "Yes. He was right. But he forgot to add that the one writer from "bad old Czarist days" was named Lev Tolstoy" and no one would ever remember any of the 3,247 current members of the Writers' Union from Tula. Well, something like that comes to mind when one thinks of Lewis, and his scholarship, compared to the heaps of Rashid Khalidis and Hamid Dabashis and Joel Beinins, some of whom are former propagandists for the PLO, others of whom spend their academic leisure beavering about in the busy "construction of the Palestinian identity" -- which if it really existed, as more than a transparently useful notion, would not require so much endless "construction." In relation to the MESA members who continue to deny him the recognition he deserves, reminds us of Tolstoy, in Szamuely's anecdote, in relation to his numerous (3,247, to be exact) epigones. But that does not absolve Lewis of his failures, his elisions, his distortions, his underappreciations, his allowing vanity to cloud his keen sight (how could he continue to deny the Armenian genocide? out of what misplaced loyalties to Ottomanists and Osmanlis, and to decades of friendship with many Turks, to what perverse parsing of the word "genocide," could he have found himself denying what masses of evidence, and eyewitness testimony, support? Which was more important -- the continued friendship of Turks, or the scholarly approval of Vankh Dadrian and others who have studied the Armenian genocide?

If one is to believe the Wall Street Journal and other publications, Lewis has had an important influence on American policy in Iraq. By that, one means not the original invasion itself, but the Light-Unto-the-Muslim-Nations Project, which was to bring "democracy" to Iraq, and then that "democracy," in turn, would serve as a model for other Arab states, and lead to all manner of good things, including the diminishment of the role of Islam. But Lewis, like those in the Pentagon, was making judgments on the basis of friendship with highly misrepresentative men, Iraqis who were well-educated in the West, who had spent decades in the West (Chalabi has been in the West for 45 years), and who not only had become Western, rational men, but had themselves forgotten just how irrational Iraqi society is, with its ever-present substratum of Islam, the hostility that Islam engenders toward all non-Muslims (which means, of course, that any gratitude toward Infidel Americans for rescuing them from the regime of Saddam Hussein will be either feigned, or fleeting, or both). Lewis likes to think of himself as unswervingly unpolemical, the historian au-dessus de la melee -- but he did not hesitate to co-sign a political advertisement (written with James Woolsey) on behalf of Prince Hassan of Jordan, to become the new king of Iraq -- an advertisement that required him to praise the ahistoric fantasies of Amartya Sen about the historically "democratic" strain in Islam, which if we are talking about modern "democracy" and its connection to human rights, completely misstates the case). Lewis allowed himself to forget, because he wanted not to remember, the essential tenets of Islam, the manichaean split between Believer and Infidel, the inability of the Believer to accept any authority other than the sharia (and certainly not an authority stemmming from the votes of mere mortals), the impossibility of their being a real defense of human rights (beginning with full freedom of conscience, which is impossible in any Islamic regime).

Lewis lived,in Egypt during World War II, when Egypt was essentially ruled by the British under extraordinary, wartime conditions (it was the British who jailed Answar Sadat for his pro-Nazi activities). Otherwise, Lewis has visited the Middle East as a dignitary, and in Turkey a celebrity. He is feted, treated with famous courtesy. In Amman Prince Hassan himself is a host and patron. In Princeton, dissenters now eager for support within the Administration make sure, as Saad Eddin Ibrahim did, to visit Lewis in Princeton (Lewis was instrumental in putting pressure on the Egyptian government, through threats to withhold $30 million, to change its treatment of Ibrahim in the courts). All of this attention, all of this lionizing, has had an affect. Lewis has retailed on more than one occasion his bon mots to gathered Arab admirers in Amman; his natural wariness seems strangely absent in his retelling of a story where his sally met with appreciative laughter. Few of us would respond otherwise; everyone likes to have a receptive audience.

Lewis did not grow up in the Arab and Muslim world, as did the dry and brilliant Elie Kedourie; nor did he live, among the Arabs in situ, as did J. B. Kelly. (It is quite another thing to live among Arab colleagues in the West). He does not recognize quite as easily, and thus dismiss quite as completely, the nonsense, lies,and blague that are the stock-in-trade in the Arab countries as Kelly, for example, is wont to do.

What is passing strange is that Lewis' first and greatest interest was modern Turkey. He admired the Kemalist reforms. He understood how difficult it was to undertake them. He knew that save for that reforms, the class of secularist Turks -- the very class from which his own colleagues and friends came -- would never have attained the critical mass it did. Yet, when confronted with Iraq, he did not draw any lessons from Kemalism. He did not stop to think that Kemalism was a result purely from within, a result derived from an enlightened despot, convinced that Islam explained the failures, political, economic, social, and intellectual, of the Muslim peoples, including the Turks -- and it was Islam that would, in its practice, have to be constrained by government fiat. That was what Kemalism was all about.

Now, confronted with Iraq, Lewis ignores the lessons of Kemalism. Yet he must know that had the British tried, for example, with their soldiers still walking the streets of Istanbul, to impose the kind of de-islamizing reforms that Mustafa Kemal imposed, it would never have worked, now seems to be promoting the idea that "democracy" can come to that most unlikely country, Iraq, where tribalism and not the idea of the individual, still rules, where ethnic (Kurd and Arab) and sectarian (Sunni and Shi'a) rivalries and hatreds, have a long and deep history, and where the underlying ideology of Islam is opposed, in every fiber, to the rights enshrined in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights -- including the right to freedom of conscience (apostasy), the right of equal treatment under the law for believers in all religions (directly contradicted by the sharia), the right to equal treatment of men and women (also contradicted by the sharia), and so on.

Why did Lewis not employ the lessons of Kemalist Turkey, the only successful or quasi-successful, democracy in the Muslim world, and apply them to Iraq? Surely the goal is not to bring "democracy" which would mean a Shi'a takeover. The goal for Infidels should be to bring about the kind of end-of-our-tether conditions that will allow a sufficient number of people within the Muslim world to see that Islam itself has failed, politically, economically, morally, and intellectually, and that the Kemalist approach -- not to try, hopelessly, to "reform" Islam but rather to grimly and relentlessly create the conditions that constrain the practice of Islam, so that a secularist class may be nurtured. And in turn, that class will have a stake in continuing to adhere to the local version of Kemalism, to continue to suppress any signs of backsliding, so that Islam could continue to be tamed. As Lewis must know from his own encounter a few days ago with the Turkish Prime Minster, Mr. Erdogan, Kemalism is now under assault, perhaps a successful assault. The assumption that the gains were permanent, that Turkey would remain unaffected by Islam's natural distempers (not, as Lewis would have it,merely reactions to the disappointments of the modern world), has turned out to be shaky.

Lewis has noted, in public lectures, that more has been achieved to bring "progress" to the Muslim world by those who would be properly described as enlightened despots, such as King Muhammad V of Morocco, Bourguiba in Tunisia, Reza Shah Pahlavi in Iran, and especially, and most successfully, by Ataturk in Turkey. Belief in the "people" (i.e. in"democracy") in the Muslim world is likely to lead to retrograde legislation, and a situation that makes things worse, not better, for Infidels.

So why did he apparently promote the idea of Iraq as a likely candidate for something called "democracy'? Just how was that to take place, and what was the final outcome likely to be in Iraq's power structure? And since there is nothing self-evident about the idea that "democracy" in Iraq will necessarily be worth the vast allocation of men, materiel, money, and attention that is now being spent, monomaniacally, on this project, just how does it relate to encouraging, from within Islam, lots of local and little Ataturks to recognize the failures of Islam, and in their own way, for the sake of their own peoples, to cunningly fashion ways to constrain its practice and dampen its appeal? What, one wonders, does Lewis think of the many Muslim or ex-Muslim scholars who have written about the total contradiction between the principles of sharia and the principles enshrined inthe Universal Declaration of Human Rights -- such scholars, for example, as Rexa Afshari, or Ali Sina, or Ibn Warraq, or Azam Kamguian. Does he give weight to their views, or regard them all as malcontents and, as he has sometimes employed the Muslim word, "renegades"?,

Particularly when it comes to the Middle East, where Muslims do not brook the slightest criticism of Islam, its greatness, the greatness of its civilisation, and so on, it is hard for scholars who perceive things otherwise to speak their minds fully. There is often a gap between what is said publicly, and what is admitted privately. And a good many people like to think that if they spent many decades studying a subject, it must have inherent worth, its civilisation must have been a glorious thing indeed. Those mental pictures pass by in vivid array, those mosques in Samarkand and Tashkent and Bokhara, the Dome of the Rock gleaming in Jerusalem, those turbaned Turks and Iznik tulips, all the local color of that "high Islamic civilization" that Orientalists today still feel that they must formulaically overpraise (and in so doing, either tacitly accept the long-discarded notions of a European "Dark Ages," or belittle the vaster achievements of other non-Western civilizatons -- those of the Mayans, or the Hindus, or the Chinese).

Lewis has outlived almost all of his colleagues. The kind of training he received goes far beyond what the Beinins and the Khalidis can even conceive of, and much further still beyond what they could ever attain. Because he towers over those who foolishly attack him, he has been mistaken for a Giant Sequoia. Had those colleagues remained in the field, he would now be seen as still something impressive -- a sturdy English oak, Quercus robur, say -- but not quite as tall, or as impressive, as that Giant Sequoia.

Hugh, as an academic myself, I am impressed with your tribute to Bernard Lewis. I've been a Lewis admirer since the 1970's, when I read his _Race and Color in Islam_ (it's been updated and given a new title since). Yet I'd like to add a few observations:

(1) Elie Kedourie's background is Baghdad Jewish--which doesn't decrease his status as a scholar by a micromillimeter, but helps explain his exceptional sensitivity to what nationalism and a host of other topics on which he writes are. His criticism of nationalism extends to Zionism, BTW, and he was (alov hasholom) a great admirer of the UK for its absence of the sort of nationalism one found in continental Europe and the Middle East.

Kedourie's career, which ended in the UK, is also part of the process whereby Iraq, where there had been an important Jewish presence since the 7th century BC, ultimately became all but Judenrein. Your mention of Kedourie made me think of his origins, and the desire of the Islamicist radicals to "start with the Saturday people, and move on to the Sunday people."

(2) The problems the present crop of Mideast scholars have with Lewis have been around before. Sinology became captive to a pro-Maoist Left in the 1970's. It took a series of shocks such as the realization that the "peasant" (actually urban, middle-class intellectuals playing Robin Hood in earnest) revolution left rural China in appalling poverty and ecological degradation as Western scholars were able to visit China and see firsthand (it drove old Yan'an hands like Michael Lindsay to the right); the speed with which anti-imperialist "solidarity" collapsed between China and Viet Nam over Cambodia and China's support for Pol Pot; and, finally, the discovery that China had a large dissident underground. I doubt the sort of laudatory flaterry of tyrants that passed for Sinology in the 1970's can even be published since June 4, 1989. And certainly no pacifist today is going to break your glasses for calling Mao an imperialist in Tibet.

The fact is that academics have to maintain a good relationship with the areas they study. If the area in question is dominated by a paranoid ideology and brutal regimes, the scolarship is going to suffer, and the integrity of the sholars is necessarily compromised.

A further problem with cross-cultural study and life is that it is difficult to get beyond the surface of the "Other", even when you are sympathetic. Also, the representative of that "Other" culture will sometimes carry over a habit of telling you what he thinks you want to hear. For example, early 20th century Sinology always spoke of how "filial" the Chinese were--even though the great classical novel of Qing China (18th century--before the West broke in), _Hong Lou Meng_, is a classic adolescent Sturm und Drang tale full of intergenerational conflict. I suspect that there are other dynamics at work among Arabists, etc.

It also seems that a lot of "area studies" gets cultivated by the West's malcontents, who seek alternatives in "the Other" (a point Said may have gotten--even if I'm not a Said fan). Hence, we have a lot of people observing the world through lenses that may be a little too sympathetic, and filtering the information further through brains imbued with a lot of revolutionary expectations. Hence, when the disappointments at how things really are becomes apparent, there's been an investment of pride and other things that won't let the scholar back down.

Here, I will have to say that part of Lewis' greatness lies in his dates, when the Islamic world was not so radicalized, and a more open dialogue between the cultures was possible.

Neither "academics" nor anyone else has to maintain a "good relationship with the areas they study." The academic study of Soviet Russia was, at least in the United States and the United Kingdom and partly in France, in the hands of people who knew exactly what was wrong with Soviet Russia. Think of Hugh Seton-Watson, Richard Pipies, Adam Ulam, Helene Carrere-d'Encausse, Alain Besancon, Karel van het Reve and the Herzen Institute in Amsterdam, Leo Labedz, and his indispensable one-man magazine in London. Think of the emigres, including Kerensky himself, or Nabokov (who stood au-dessus de la melee, but inflicted great damage, in all the right quarters, by himself, that "one-man multitude," on the image of Communism among those who came to inhale his prose, and took away a complete worldview, the effect of the Chekhov Publishing House, of Novoye Russkoye Slovo (with educated editors, from Vishniak to Weinbaum, in the old days), think of the mysteriously-funded French publishing house Les Ils d'Or (I have four of their books right on my desk now: "Staline au pouvoir", by Alexandre Ouralov, A. Ciliga's "Au Pays du Mensonge Deconcertant" and "En Siberie," A. Krakovwiecki's "Kolyma" (traduit du Polonais).

And when one had to study Russian, whether in college, or at Monterey, or elsewhere, one's teachers were not sly apologists for, or agents of, Communism or Soviet Russia. They were people who hated Communism.

But with Islam, with the Jihad, everything is different. No official support or recognition is given to the ex-Muslims who have just as much to tell us about Islam as did the defectors from the K.G.B. and the refugees. There is nothing comparable to what existed, to inform the West about Soviet Communism. Why, for example, is Walid Shoebat, essentially a "Palestinian" Arab defector from both PLO terrorism and Islam itself, who is so piercing in his analyses, not given public hearings and is limited to Jewish audiences? Why is Ibn Warraq not supported? Where are the congressmen who are willing to call Ibn Warraq, Ali Sina, and others to testify, and to promote a greater understanding of what Islam is about? Are they all afraid of offending assorted Muslim leaders? Are they all mesmerized by the word "religion" which implies something -- to them -- untouchable and off-limits? Can't they use the word "belief-system" which has been repeated, in this space, thousands of times?

And as for the grand scheme to throw tens of millions of dollars into the teaching of Arabic and other supposedly relevant languages, that is not likely to bring any greater understanding of things. What, after all, has not been translated? Expert translators, at such organizations as MEMRI, translate every text, every sermon in the khutbas, every column in Al Watan and Al Ahram and Al-whateveryouwant. There is not much one really a great need, though that is seen as the need, to add to the supply of Arabic speakers. It would take a fortune, and many years, to produce a cadre of Arabic-speakers who could replace those who most obivously are both available, and trustworthy -- those "refugees" from Islam, who know that world so well, including Maronites, Copts (whose relatives are safely out of Egypt), Arabic-speaking Jews (including some from every region of the Arab world, well-versed in its dialect), and the disaffected former Muslims among the Iranian refugees.

What is needed is not lingusitic training so much as the intelligent analaysis of the situation, and a thorough grasp not only of the tenets of Islam, but on those fissures within the world of Islam that may be exploited, and how they may be exploited.

It is unfortunate that the endless naivete of the American government, including Congress and officials at every level, federal and state, is likely to result in greater sums of money being used to employ Arabic-speaking Muslims who will, in their gentle and sly ways, not only be used to first introduce innocent American students to the declensions and conjugations of Arab nouns and verbs, but will also -- along the way, with those encouraging smiles at the tentative first steps of the unaccustomed tongue, and those little asides about "life under occupation" in "Palestine," or about the "exaggerations" in the American press, slowly but surely -- and it will depend a good deal on exquisite politeness, and personal charm, and seeming sympathy (in which Arab culture specializes), will win over those students even as they are officially being prepared to learn the language which supposedly will make them better at comprehending the threat of Jihad, and in warily recognizing all the arts of taqiyya and kitman. Americans are innocents -- abroad and at home. A few of these Arabic-language students will see through the subtle propaganda of their teachers; many however will not. It will be nothing like the experience of those who, fifty or forty years ago, studied Russian under those who had suffered from, and hated, Communism.

Although quite a few of those who used to applaud Chairman Mao managed, before they retired or died, to change their tune, few acknowledged their previous silliness. I recall Jonathan Mirsky, a big radical at Dartmouth who now, as a Financial Times writer (if I recall rightly) is no longer a waver of little red books; the same with James Thomson. orville Schell, now a respectable Dean of the School of Journalism somewhere -- has he ever owned up to his previous period of pro-Mao writing and thinking?

There are always the exceptions. When it comes to Communist China, there was Simon Leys, (Pierre Ryckmans), author of "Chinese Shadows" and "Chairman Mao's New Clothes," to embarrass some Sinologist apologists of Mao, if not honest, at least less obviously dishonest.

But most of those who now fill departments of Middle Eastern or Islamic studies in the Western world -- not all, but most -- are apologists to one degree or another. They may not be quite as blatant as Michael Sells or John Esposito. Their motives vary. Some desire not to offend quick-to-take-offense Muslim colleagues, with whom they must keep a departmental peace; others fear the reaction of Muslim students. The word "Islamophobia" has been primed and is ready for use at the earliest opportunity -- applied whenever anyone dares to question the tenets of Islam, or the history of the treatment of non-Muslims under Islam. A few of the most courageous students of dhimmitude manage to escape, because they happen to be specialists in, say, Byzantine studies, or Armenian studies -- one thinks of Vanakh Dadrian, or Speros Vryonis. These are special cases. Most of those teaching about Islam are hired either by a deparment where Muslims already predominate, or where they are a powerful presence. It does not take much to silence people into submission. Why, after all, make trouble? Tenure is here, the sun is shining, who cares if these silly little unteachable students are fed propaganda --those who are worth anything should be able to arrive at the truth by themselves? Yes, who really gives a damn if the universities hire, and then churn out more, students in Islamic or MIddle Eastern studies whose views coincide so beautifully with those of the Arab League (properly modified for an American audience), or the equivalent at Al-Azhar of the Propaganda Fide office at the Vatican? Who cares, indeed?

Better to get on with one's little book on Al-Ghazali -- oh, and did you see the really marvellous translations Robert Irwin did of the "singing crows"? --And is there honey still for tea?

Meanwhile, those who dare to point out otherwise, for example, in France, Anne-Marie Delcambre (who teaches at one of the best lycees), and Jean-Paul Charnay (whose little book on the sharia, and big book on "La strategie arabe" are both worth reading), must go their lonely way. Bat Ye'or is for many a non-person; never on the syllabi, or if put on, carefully denounced to the students so that they won't even bother to look into her work themselves. Ibn Warraq? Oh, like all ex-Muslims, just an embittered man, "every bit as fanatical" as those he claims to denounce (when in fact he is among the most cultivated, amusing, and bemused people on the face of this earth).

Even those who know better -- Michael Cook and Patricia Crone come to mind -- often use Aesopian language. Crone's latest book does not do justice to dhimmitude; she -- who allowed herself to be anonymously quoted by Alexander Stille on the "treacly nonsense" about Islam, should perhaps allow herself a little more openness.

So many experts on Islam permit themselves to say in private (a whisper to Bassam Tibi here, a wink to Fouad Ajami or a Behbehani scion there)what they will not say in public. This really has to stop.

As for "the Other," that little idea has had its academic day, but not before doing a huge amount of intellectual damage. It began rather innocently -- see for example Henri Baudet's modest, and intelligent essay "Paradise on Earth (Some Thoughts on European Images of non-European Man)." Then the damned thing was taken up by the thuggish and meretricious Said, who used it as a way to block all inteligent investigation of Muslim Arab culture and mores/ Though he presented his "Orientalism" as a general defense of the "oppressed Third World cultures" his intellectual thuggery, as Ibn Warraq noted in his long essay about Said, was designed to causeall "Orientalists" to shut up or at least not to be heeded. And by extension, Said really believed that only only Muslims, or those prepared to follow their scripts, could write about Islam. He obviously exempted himself, because as an Arab he apparently possed a kind of special, genetic, racial knowledge about the tenets and history of Islam that made little mistakes, such as his assertion that Islam conquered Byzantium before it did Spain, when it was nearly 800 years later, seem trivial. What did that little lapsus mean when he understood, as an Arab, the "essence of Islam" as someone like Lewis, or Schacht, or Margoliouth, or Snouck Hurgronje, never could, despite 50 or 60 years of intense study?

Ladies and gentlemen, the Desarts Vast of Academic Islam await ye. Abandon all hope, ye who enter here.

you people (all of you) remind me of rats discussing over a bit of cheese.

To all your worthless words i have this to say : Let all of you gird yourselves with steele - my bosom filled with faith is my fortress - fear not (O the glorious ummah of Islam) for how can t he faith of a people be smothered by a monster called civilisation, which has but one tooth left in its jaw.

You enemies of Islam : Islam is a rock - and many waves have hit it only to be broken and dissolved. Just like your crusading, raping, cross worshipping grandfathers' bones have dissolved on the lands of Islam, so will your bodies will disappear soon. Soon your worthless words disappear in the air like stink in a windy day.

Muslims are bound by faith. Let yourselves be bound by ideologies other than Islam and may you, and your childen, and their children dissolve like salt in fresh, pure water.

From God we came - to God we shall return. There is no God but God and Muhammad is His messenger.

Europe...dream of the glorious day of 29 May 1453. And may all your cities be purified by Islam, like the cross worshipping city of constantinople was, on that beautiful spring day.