Its a religion of peace, and if you refuse to join, they will kill you.

Pull the dead hand of islam from the throat of Europe, before muslims drag you down.

yabba dabba akbar!

Posted by: basil at July 19, 2004 2:20 PM

Why are they still delibrating whether to or not to ban the religion.
Left for me, it will not take seconds before I declare the religion a taboo, a banned and no practice religion...
And to you Reza and other muslims,
Your children, Grandchildren and Great grandchildren, will work on our church's cocoa plantation in West Africa.
Jesus is Lord, No cotroversy.
Written by,
Dase (swt).

Posted by: Dase at July 19, 2004 2:44 PM

My, my, this from such a "progressive" country. Of course they understand the danger and are willing to take a stand. I wonder if their courts will allow the ban.

Posted by: epg at July 19, 2004 2:57 PM

Islam should be confined to the Middle East, where it is most regularly practiced. Every nation should have a special election, for CITIZENS to vote as to whether they want the radical Islamic plague to have a presence in their land.

The game is up for Islam. Everyone is waking up, finally. Well, almost everyone.

Posted by: DCWatson at July 19, 2004 3:09 PM

The eureka moment comes when one realizes that islam, unlike all other "religions" in the world, is a political, social, and economic ideology that has propagated itself for over a thousand years through violence. If it was just a bunch of guys in 7th century vestments wafting incense and incantations at each other it could be as well tolerated in modern societies as other religions are tolerated. The ideological aspect of islam however can not in any shape or form be divorced from the "religious" or "spiritual" elements of its worldview. So modern societies have no choice but to reject the presence of this competing ideology as a whole just as Christendom has done for 14 centuries.

Posted by: Hulegu Khan at July 19, 2004 4:08 PM

Dase (swt) said, “And to you Reza and other muslims,
Your children, Grandchildren and Great grandchildren, will work on our church's cocoa plantation in West Africa.”

Good line Dase(swt). I find ridicule of Reza "the borg master" helps me to put all of this in perspective.

I am surprised that this is coming out of a Scandinavian country. Don’t they have an over abundance of political correctness like the rest of us?

“Your grandchildren will be banning islam in all the world.”

Posted by: Sheik Canuck (swt) at July 19, 2004 5:27 PM

Hmm... Norway sounds like my kind of country! If muslims can't play nice with other religions, maybe they should be banned. And I'm not buying the 'religion of peace' song and dance.

Posted by: pinkpower at July 19, 2004 5:50 PM

Now it is a good time to explain to his followers why Robert deleted posts of Oikonomakis and myself for saying the same.

Posted by: josé maría at July 19, 2004 5:53 PM

jose maria:

Welcome back!

Posted by: CGW at July 19, 2004 6:45 PM

This is a good sign. What's important is that Islam is being exposed and openly criticized. As Daniel Pipes and others have noted Islam seeks to stifle all criticism and place itself above other religions. But Islam is not like other religions it's a fascist ideology that's incompatible with freedom and free societies.

Posted by: Roxane at July 19, 2004 7:11 PM

Whew. Glad someone in Europe is waking up. If Islam really was just another religion, this'd be extreme and grossly wrong. But that's like saying the Nazi party was just another political party. Now if the Norwegians only carry through with it, maybe the tide in Europe will start to turn.

Posted by: Anduril at July 19, 2004 7:29 PM

My dear josé maría:

Neither your posts nor those of anyone else were deleted for saying this.

It was no doubt for saying something else (i.e., "nuke 'em all") or how it was said.

I don't remember your posts that were deleted. I remember you attacking me personally, on rather preposterous grounds, and keeping it up, after which you were banned. I don't have time to waste with nonsense like that.

That your post showed up again here tonight shows how effective the ban was, but that's modern technology for you.

As for Oikonomakis, he was indulging in foul language and abuse that only detracts from the anti-jihadist cause. He agreed to cut it out, and is back.

Cordially,
Robert Spencer

Posted by: jihadwatch at July 19, 2004 9:16 PM

First Pim Fortuyn in Holland, now the Freedom Party in Norway. Others will follow their lead. Islam has some explaining to do, about all those unfortunate verses in the Koran and its ancillary texts. Blaming Jews won't cut it any more - even the 'quartet' are tired of Arafat's lies and excuses. Game on.

Posted by: Doctor Phibes at July 19, 2004 10:23 PM

Wow! Sure took a lot of balls to say this! Cajones muchos grandes. Wish more countries would say the same. I think it'll get to that point soon. This KP party is only stating the facts, but in this PeeCee world, facts are a no-no if they put certain ethnic minorities in a bad light. Goes against the "all cultures are equal and beautiful, but especially so when we're talking non-white cultures" way of thinking that some are trying to brainwash everyone with.

Norway - the country where most of the rapes were being committed by Muslim men and some idiot professor had the audacity to say Norwegian woman had to adjust to their new "multicultural society". Insanity.

The UK desperately needs this KP party type opinions being stated. Before it's legislated as illegal. If it isn't already. Lock up your women then.

Posted by: feralee at July 19, 2004 11:22 PM

This is absolutely wonderful news! It proves that the entire world is not blind, stupid, and more concerned about political correctness than preserving one's culture and heritage. I only wish American politicians would wake up to the reality of Islam. 9-11 didn't teach us a thing except that our intelligence services lack the resources to protect the country from the lunatics our lax immigration policies welcome to America with open arms. Post 9-11, muslims are venerated and beyond reproach and we assauge their groundless claims of discrimination; grant their incessant demands for special privileges; react with shame and humility to their endless complaints and lamentations about the miserable plight of muslims in America. You would think we attacked them on 9-11 instead of the other way around. I wish every muslim in America would depart posthaste, armed with a one way ticket to an idyllic Islamic eden, where they can regress in ecstacy. But alas, it's probably too late since they now "own" America too, or so they say. Why did we allow these people to invade our country>?
SusanP

Posted by: Susanp at July 19, 2004 11:52 PM

The thought police are out in Norway already - Carl Hagen, the leader of the Progress Party, might be reported to the authorities for 'anti-Muslim agitation':

http://www.norwaypost.no/content.asp?cluster_id=25780&folder_id=1

Posted by: Doctor Phibes at July 20, 2004 2:11 AM

Of course Islam has the same ideology as the Nazis
and should be BANNED in every civilized country.
I'd go a step further and say this Ban should be enshrined in Law to protect future generations.
Those who wish to leave this pernicious Death Cult
and live in peace with the rest of humanity are welcome to stay. Others including raging clerics,
Mad Mullahs,terrorists and average fanatic can depart forthwith. Can almost hear celebrations and
exclamations of Joy...Hi there Reza Darling, you'll soon be going home where you can hack each other to bits instead of us Infidels...

Posted by: Morgane at July 20, 2004 2:49 AM

As an aside to this, America and all western countries should end foreign, military and diplomatic aid to any Moslem nation which does not actively protect the right and safety of Christian communities and converts within their borders. Even if no one takes the steps to throw all Moslems out of western nations, this would be a powerful and provacative first step to weakening Islam.

Posted by: Anduril at July 20, 2004 6:32 AM

I'm moving to Norway...good for them, although jihad will be coming to them soon with this revelation...if only all the civilized countries of the world could get together and AT THE SAME TIME ban islam...ahhh dare to dream.

Posted by: USAgirl at July 20, 2004 12:16 PM

Robert you deleted my posts because I said that islam should be destroyed because it is an ideology. Other people wrote about nukes (I even didn´t know this word before reading it in this blog). How to destroy it is another question: it could be a sheer transformation like happened in christianity.

You banned me because I supported and I support Oiko, maybe not in his ways but yes in the goal. You even deleted a post in which I put a doubt about your motives for deleting our posts (basically I stated you could be afraid or you wanted to save your reputation). That is my view and I will not apologize in no way and I don´t think that it is ridiculous my view.

I know this is your house and as you said you pay for it. Ok you can ban me but I am not your follower I have my own views and I think for myself. I recognize your effort to make available this information to everybody but don´t expect from me surrender.

You use words quite contradictory "dear", "cordially" but then expressions like "that's modern technology for you" I don´t understand what you mean. Anyway do as your wish this is your house not mine.

Posted by: josé maría at July 20, 2004 5:14 PM

My dear josé maría:

"Robert you deleted my posts because I said that islam should be destroyed because it is an ideology."

Actually I have called repeatedly for a thoroughgoing reform of Islam. Accordingly it is doubtful that if that is all you were saying, I would have deleted it. But as I say, I don't remember.

"You even deleted a post in which I put a doubt about your motives for deleting our posts (basically I stated you could be afraid or you wanted to save your reputation). That is my view and I will not apologize in no way and I don´t think that it is ridiculous my view."

No one is asking you to apologize. But in fact you said I was an appeaser of jihadist Islam. This is so absurd, and offensive, that I thought enough was enough. I am not paying for this site in order to be the recipient of paranoid and outlandish insults. I get enough of those from the jihadists themselves.

"Ok you can ban me but I am not your follower I have my own views and I think for myself. I recognize your effort to make available this information to everybody but don´t expect from me surrender."

Sir, you have me all wrong. No one asked you to "follow" me, or to "surrender," or even to agree with me. Look around the posts and you will find plenty of people who don't, and yet for some reason they weren't banned. Here is the reason: all I ask of you, and of everyone (although I don't read most of the posts) is that you be civil in your posts. If that is too much for you, c'est la vie.

Cordially,
Robert Spencer

Posted by: jihadwatch at July 20, 2004 8:48 PM

It took many years of in-depth historical study and a few "working vacations" to the Middle East before I realized a simple and alarming fact. When Christians murder or do violence on behalf of their religion they do so in violation of the precepts of their faith; when Moslems do so they are acting in complete accordance with the precepts of their faith. After years of preaching tolerance toward Islam, I was forced to confront yet another painful truth. it is suicidal behavior to extend tolerance toward those who refuse to extend the same towards you. It is perhaps the strangest manifestation of American political life that we who call ourselves liberals can embrace a cowardly and morally bankrupt philosophy of cultural relativism that produces the following result; that we end up supporting those who are sworn to destroy every freedom and every real and time-tested principle that we hold dear. Having had to squarely face the reality of the hate, oppressiveness, blindness, filth, hypocrisy and poverty, both physical and spiritual, that pervades the lands where Islam reigns, I can come to no other conclusion but this: Islam is deadly poison to any progressive and free society. The two cannot coexist within the same space. We need to enforce a physical separation between ourselves and Islam or else reconcile the West to a fight to the death.

Posted by: Cicero at July 21, 2004 1:18 AM

Hail Norway!!!!

Ban the koran! I've been saying it for a long time. See? I've convinced an entire country!!

Now I know what country I'm going to move to when I retire... unless of course my much warmer southern neighbor does likewize...

Posted by: Mullah_Abu_Bin_Boobie at July 21, 2004 8:30 AM

A discussion about this at this Norwegian blog:

http://www.bearstrong.net/warblog/000750.html#comments

Posted by: Ali Dashti at July 21, 2004 12:00 PM

The good doctor will soon be in the gunsites of the Islamic ministry of truth and their associated left wing dhimmies.
however, it is the firebrand clerics trained in saudi arabia at Medina who should be kicked out and replaced by moderate preachers.
Why are htese clerics allowed to enter Europe at will ? In france, i am told that more than 1000 mosques are under the control of Clerics who have no french nationality.

Posted by: chevalier de st george at July 21, 2004 11:38 PM

For the first time, in a long time, I am proud to be Norwegian. However, be warned, that this is not going to happen overnight. It is going to be a long struggle. It is, however, the ONLY way to go. No tolerance of islam whatsoever anywhere on earth. Any talk of "reforming" islam i BS par excellence. You cannot reform anything so utterly evil in its foundation into anything even remotely resembling civilization. Coming from muslims talk about "reform" is deception, coming from non-muslims its either deception on behalf of the muslims (treason in another word for it), or its utterly naive.

The only solotion is total war, and global war, on all fronts, ideologically, politically, religiously, economically and militarily, until not a mosque is left standing and only ex-muslims left alive. Anything less is treason, high treason. One might of course discuss the balance between the various fronts (ideological, political, religious, economical and military), but the the goal is not a matter of discussion, its to erradicate islam completely from the face of the earth.

What this party in Norway is doing is basically to open an ideological front. It is however, going to take a lot more than that. The party as such has about 20% support in the opinion polls, but this is only the local division of the party in the town of Kristiansand which is doing it. They do not even have the support of the party on a national level. The party is, however, also critical of islam at the national level. A few weeks ago its leader drew heavy fire from the entire PC establishment in Norway when he made some "insulting" remarks about Muhammed (pig$hit be upon him), but he did not go nearly as far as the local party in Kristiansand now is doing.

Viking

Posted by: Viking at July 22, 2004 5:14 AM