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"Osama bin Laden is a good man. Osama bin Laden wants the same as me -- he wants to see the implementation of God's law." From the San Francisco Chronicle, with thanks to Twostellas:
London -- "Osama bin Laden is a good man. Osama bin Laden wants the same as me -- he wants to see the implementation of God's law," says Khalid Kelly as he sips coffee in a sun-filled London cafe and expounds on his allegiance to the man who has declared war on the West.Kelly, an Irishman, converted to Islam two years ago while imprisoned in Saudi Arabia for distilling and selling alcohol. Since then, he has become the public face of the tiny London-based organization called Al-Muhajiroun. The radical organization is led by Sheikh Omar Bakri Mohammed, who has long been linked to bin Laden's International Islamic Front for Jihad Against Jews and Crusaders.
The presence of militants like Bakri has earned the British capital the sobriquet "Londonistan" among diplomats and terrorism experts, who see London as a worldwide center of Islamic terrorism.
"The Islamists use Britain as a propaganda base but wouldn't do anything to a country that harbors them and gives them freedom of speech," Camille Tawil, a terrorism expert at the Arabic daily Al Hayat, told the New Statesman magazine.
Recently, however, British security officials have staged several high- profile crackdowns on suspected terrorists.
On March 30, police netted eight suspects and more than half a ton of ammonium nitrate fertilizer, the ingredient used in the 2002 Bali nightclub explosion that killed more than 200 people. The bust came after months of bugging telephone lines and tracking suspects and following a web of leads across Europe and the Middle East, according to Peter Clarke, the deputy police commissioner who serves as Britain's anti-terrorism chief.
The scheme was apparently planned abroad but was to be carried out by British citizens. "That is something that is deeply worrying to us,'' Clarke said.
In April, 10 foreigners suspected of plotting attacks were arrested in central and northern England.
Then on May 27, acting on an 11-count U.S. indictment, police arrested Abu Hamza al-Masri, the fiery former preacher at London's Finsbury Park mosque, the spiritual home of several notorious terrorists, including convicted shoe- bomber Richard Reid.
Al-Masri, who lost both hands and an eye in Afghanistan, is being held in London's high-security Belmarsh prison pending extradition on charges of aiding al Qaeda, attempting to set up a terror camp in Oregon and plotting the hostage-taking of 16 tourists in Yemen in 1998. At a hearing Friday, a London court delayed a decision on his extradition until Oct. 19.
But other clerics continue to take advantage of official British tolerance to openly espouse jihad and support for al Qaeda.
In recent weeks, Britain has allowed visits by two high-profile Middle Eastern clerics -- Egyptian Yusuf al-Qaradawi and Sheikh Abdur-Rahman al- Sudais of Saudi Arabia -- who are known for their anti-Semitic and anti- Western views. Yusuf, who has been banned from the United States since 1999, has publicly expressed support for suicide bombers on the grounds that the "martyrdom operations'' are the only available "weapons of the weak."
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Posted by Robert at July 25, 2004 7:43 AM
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The British are far TOO tolerant if you ask me.The
Hamza affair is a disgrace and the sycophantic behaviour of Brtish Authorities and Media towards
known Extremists is frankly -SICKENING!!No wonder
the once proud capital is sneeringly dubbed -Londonistan. If this cowardly attitude is mean't to ensure immunity from attack from our Islamic Brothers,Ken Livingston and his cronies are in for
a shock.
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at July 25, 2004 8:32 AM
"Kelly says he hates life in free-wheeling Britain and wants "to go to an Islamic country to live a pious Islamic life." (cut/paste from S.F.Chronicle piece).
If only! Why didn't someone think of that before.
Posted by: Sam Roony at July 25, 2004 9:16 AM
The imposing of Sharia law world-wide is the ultimate goal of "conventional" Islam. The "radicals" are simply more forthright about this. This reminds me of the eventual "triumph" of communism that would occur, according to marxist propaganda.
Posted by: DHIMMIPOWER at July 25, 2004 9:43 AM
The Ummah Kingdom is overdoing tolerance? They just found out, did they?
http://www.apostatesofislam.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=357
Muhammed's wife: "I used to play with dolls"
Proof that Aisha was pre-pubescent when Muhammad married and had sex with her:
Sahih Bukhari Volume 8, Book 73, Number 151 Narrated 'Aisha: I used to play with the dolls in the presence of the Prophet, and my girl friends also used to play with me. When Allah's Apostle used to enter they used to hide themselves, but the Prophet would call them to join and play with me. (The playing with the dolls and similar images is forbidden, but it was allowed for 'Aisha at that time, as she was a little girl, not yet reached the age of puberty.) (Fateh-al-Bari page 143, Vol.13)
The only reason why permission to play with dolls was given to Aisha is because she had not, at that time, reached the age of puberty.
Posted by: Ali Dashti at July 25, 2004 10:15 AM
Muslims, go back home until you can learn to work and play well with others.
Posted by: DCWatson at July 25, 2004 10:22 AM
What do these places have in common: Hammtranck, MI; Dearborn, MI; London, UK; Paris, FR?
They are colonies of Islam, virulent, and spreading. They want control of gov't, schools, hospitals. They want to remake our society!
My posts are finely focused. I want the importation of Islam stopped. Please do more than post manifestos and invectives, cathartic as they may be.
* Fax Congress for Free
http://www.numbersusa.com
* Legislative Action Center
http://www.fairus.org
at July 25, 2004 10:42 AM
To quote Khalid Kelly "Before I didn't know how I was to feel about alcohol, about women walking the street half naked, about homosexuality, about pedophillia, but now I know" he said "Now I have all the answers". Well Mr Khalid Kelly how about the rape of captured Sudanese boys by Arab Islamist Warriors waging jihad in the Sudan.Thats homosexuality.Thats pedophillia.
Posted by: RED at July 25, 2004 1:45 PM
I'm with Peachy! We've got to control Islamic immigration NOW - before we dotted by other Londonstans.
Love the name - Kipling Forever!
Posted by: rb at July 25, 2004 2:33 PM
Osama bin Laden is a good man. Osama bin Laden wants the same as me -- he wants to see the implementation of God's law."
That's a lie. He wants to impliment "Allah's" laws.
Allah isn't Yahweh, Allah is a rock.
Yahweh (the one and only God) has completely different laws than Satan (Allah)
Posted by: Mullah_Abu_Bin_Boobie at July 25, 2004 3:23 PM
Aisha was still nursing when Muhammad, the 53 year old, had his way with her.
The only "nurses" in Muhammads time were wet nurses.
Tabari IX:131 “My mother came to me while I was being swung on a swing between two branches and got me down. My nurse wiped my face with some water and started leading me. When I was at the door she stopped so I could catch my breath. I was then brought in while the Messenger was sitting on a bed in our house. My mother made me sit on his lap. Then the men and women got up and left. The Prophet consummated his marriage with me in my house when I was nine years old.”
This proves tampering by The Islamic clerics. Nine year old don't "Nurse". Aisha was younger when he raped her.
Nine year old can outrun an adult as well, and not be "out of breath" trying to keep up with the stride.
Aisha was still around six when Muhammad the pedophile raped her.
at July 25, 2004 3:31 PM
Al-Margarine was forced to cancel their rally in London today! Even Red Ken thought they were too crazy to be allowed to rally -- he threatened legal action against them!
Posted by: Suzan at July 25, 2004 3:49 PM
Humm, If I'm not mistaken, I thought Muhammad became engaged to little Aisha when she was six, but delayed consummation until she was nine. This may certainly be an example of whitewashing, although, it's hard to think how age nine would be much better than six for the poor child.
The first biographer of Muhammad admitted to "cleaning up" the record. The official biography is damning enough.
"By their fruits, you will know them."
Posted by: rb at July 25, 2004 3:59 PM
i am reading the news about it all
''They were greeted by rival protests from extreme right wing and communist groups. ''
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/2215163.stm
well some left people are waiking up!
''The people who form al-Qaeda or the Taleban happen to be Muslims so inevitably every Muslim will have something in common with them
Organiser Jim Choudhury''
good, now i don't have to say it myself as a KAFIR
at July 25, 2004 4:17 PM
That BBC article is strange. Other British media was reporting that the London rally was cancelled and moved to Essex.
Posted by: Suzan at July 25, 2004 5:04 PM
Muslims are a threat to our way of life
By Will Cummins
Frankly, I'm getting not disgusted, but actually frightened at the dhimmification of Britain. If we do not stop Islam in the West pretty soon, then this civilisation is doomed.
Meanwhile throughout the Islamic world, Christians are being tagetteted, persecuted and murdered. I wish to know why we do not allow these people in, who share our mores and our values and deport Muhamadens out of here. Religion is the greatest divider, not race or ethnicity, and always has been through the centuries.
I wish we would act with the moral and political courage that France has shown, in attacking the very core of Islamic values ie the oppression of women. But the Anglo-sphere, and that includes the US and Australia, are in deep denial. They would rather hunt Al Qaeda, a mythical monster, then confront the idea that there is a parasite within, inexorably eating away the victim from within. AL Qaeda is a red herring, if not actually designed but good enough all the same, for distracting our attention from the reality of the war within our nations.
Our inner peace and tranquillity has been destroyed, and I doubt we will ever recover it so long as we continue to have Muslims in the West.
at July 25, 2004 5:20 PM
No thinking, honest person would disagree with anything you have said, DP111. Islam needs to be excised from western nations and forced into a reckoning of what this "religion" is really all about. It is time that decent people act to defend their civilization and society against the eventually tyranny of Islam.
Posted by: Anduril at July 25, 2004 7:36 PM
Love comment by Khalid Kelly about'wanting to live
in an Islamic country but he was afraid of getting
killed'...Doesn't seem to jell in Kelly's booze
saturated brain that reason he isn't safe is because of Death Cult called ISLAM. Would like to know what this fuckwit does for a living and contributes to society apart from mouthing the evils of half naked women and homosexuals?? Well Mr Kelly, should like you to go to Saudi Arabia and be sodomised by your 'brothers' while your backside is planted in the direction of Mecca. Middle East is notorious in their lust for 'boys.'
at July 25, 2004 8:09 PM
As Europe sinks into the abyss of liberalism, the left wing socialists with their politically correct agenda are gaining ground.
France is already lost to the Islamo-fascists, with the appeasing and cowardlly Jacques Chirac in charge the country has become a "third world" Muslim toilet.Certianly their culture will be lost.
England which was once a great nation is quickly falling under the evil spell of Islam.
Where are the likes of Winston Churchill and Margaret Thatcher, who had more Bollocks than most of these "so called" British polticians.
These weak gutless men have allowed themselves to be castrated the pc liberals and the Islamists.
It's time for the citizens of Britain to rise up and say "we are mad as hell and are not going to take this anymore"!
Posted by: Son of Infidel
at July 25, 2004 9:41 PM
I always thought that it was strange that a pedophile would wait three years before raping a little girl.
It does seem that the official documents were cleaned up. If raping a 9 year old girl instead of a 6 year old girl, can be called cleaned up.
Posted by: Voltaire at July 25, 2004 9:52 PM
I've set up a forum at Delphiforums.net and it's called The Human Rights Party.
The URL is http://forums.delphiforums.com/western1
Posted by: Voltaire at July 25, 2004 11:12 PM
VOltaire
i had a look a your forum.
then i looked at the delphiforum ME forum run by someone by the name of Franzen.
I have never seen such antisemetic antizionist filth in my life!
it is pointless even posting! the whole thing is an eyeopener to the incredible bigotry around on the net today.
What a shameful website. God help us if any of these pepople ever get any political clout!
at July 26, 2004 1:48 AM
Kelly, the public face of Al-Mu-whatever. How embarrassing for them to have such a meathead as a rep. But then they all are embarrassing, whenever they open their mouths to spout off some idiocy about how Islam is wonderment and bliss, a nirvana, a paradise! oh my!
There's something about Islam which seems to destroy braincells, or for those converting, seems to attract the losers, flakes and morons of the world, ones with only a few functioning braincells in the first place. Like this Kelly nong.
His comments about hating the lifestyle of the West is beyond stupidity. He lounges about sipping coffee in a nice cafe, enjoying safety, stability (for now), accountability in govt, free speech and other freedoms (perhaps even the freedom to sit on his arse all day, collecting welfare), while not understanding that these freedoms are all due to the West, and can only be destroyed by his new found "religion".
He just can't see the relationship btwn Islam and lifestyle, as shown by many examples around the world: wherever Islam is dominant, the country is a cesspit of poverty, misery, intolerance, murder. Where there's not so much poverty, it's still not all bliss for the non-ruling elite. Just can't seem to put two and two together, eh Kelly?
Posted by: feralee at July 26, 2004 1:52 AM
Hi Chevalier de St George
Well no-one has even posted at my forum yet, and I would certainly ban any anti-semitism on my site.
Posted by: Voltaire at July 26, 2004 2:28 AM
He now knows how to feel about pedophiles, but he has joined a religion STARTED by a pedophile.
Isn't that being hypocritical?
Posted by: Voltaire at July 26, 2004 7:02 AM
I just got back from posting there. Looks like it'll do the job just fine for the moment. I suppose the net is like a gun or any other tool, it can be used for good or evil. Again, that is the place, folks, where we are going to start the process of organizing politically, so head over, take a look and post.
Posted by: Anduril at July 26, 2004 7:06 AM
Voltaire: Yes, it is. In fact, the Koran itself sanctions pedophilia. Read this:
http://www.faithfreedom.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=239
Was Muhammed a man of peace?
http://www.islamonline.net/fatwaapplication/english/display.asp?hFatwaID=114235
the Prophet ordered them to go to the herd of (milch) camels and told them to go out and drink the camels’ urine and milk (as a medicine). So they went and drank it, and when they became healthy, they killed the camel herder and drove away the camels. This news reached the Prophet early in the morning, so he sent (some) men in their pursuit and they were captured and brought to the Prophet before midday. He ordered their hands and legs to be cut off and their eyes to be branded with heated iron pieces and they were thrown at Al-Harra, and when they asked for water to drink, they were not given water. (Abu Qilaba said, “Those were the people who committed theft and murder and reverted to disbelief after being believers (Muslims), and fought against Allah and His Apostle”). (Reported by Al-Bukhari)
at July 26, 2004 8:57 AM
Eyewitness account of Al-Margarine "rally" in London:
http://dailyablution.blogs.com/
Posted by: Suzan at July 26, 2004 12:42 PM
What really scares me is the lack of will by the good Muslims to pray for Allah to smite the terrorists. Has ther ever been a anti-terrorism rally by Muslims in London,with 1200 Million Muslims on Earth I wonder if the 500,000 in Canada have it all wrong and the Terrorists are the truth face of Islam. Would 500,000 people in China preach that everyone else is not a true Chinese citizen.
Surely 1.2 billion Muslims could find the terrorists within their own Country,they either don't want to or are too stupid to find them.
at July 27, 2004 4:18 AM
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