So? What else is new? Neil Armstrong is a Muslim. The native tribes of North America were Muslim. The native tribes of Australia were Muslim. The Holocaust never happened. 9/11 was actually staged by Mossad agents to make Islam look bad.

The Qu'ran should be banned and the practice of Islam outlawed. Where is Emperor Constantine when you need him?

Islam is a religion founded on lies and encouraged in its growth by new lies.

Posted by: Mentat at August 9, 2004 11:21 AM

Do these "historians" have any ancient scrolls (the Dead Sea variety, for example) that can withstand carbon-14 testing to support their lunacy, oops, I mean, point?

Posted by: 3812Michelle at August 9, 2004 11:27 AM

And all this time I thought Jesus, the true son of God, was a Jew. Why can't Muslims accept the fact that history has written them in as a backward, radical cult, hellbent on the destruction of the planet. Mohammed was not a messenger of anyone except for a figment in his imagination.

Jeez, enough already.

Posted by: DCWatson at August 9, 2004 11:48 AM

islam is the ultimate replacement theology:

but unfortunately has similarities to certain
church theologies and doctrines that replace
israel with the church.

paul says:

Romans 11:1

I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin.

all replacement theologies are dangerous and unbiblical.

they have been used in the past and are used
now to justify persecuting jewish people and
israel.

the Messiah (Jesus), was Jewish, is Jewish,
and will always be Jewish.

Posted by: forrestshalom at August 9, 2004 12:50 PM

Gee, I can hardly wait until michael moore makes the movie version of this!
Islam & muslims have never invented anything - except lies.

Posted by: Jim at August 9, 2004 12:54 PM

Amazing ignorance and lies!This happens also on majority of Islamic websites too - they are in the
business of rewriting History.One lot jumping up and down at [false] report Evangelists were to be sent to Sudan,sent them a E Mail wondering why they behaved this way about other Faiths?? Also reminded them that Sudan[part of Nubia] was a CHRISTIAN Kingdom for over a thousand Years until
followers of Islam arrived with Fire and Sword to do 'PEACEFUL CONVERSIONS.'

Posted by: Morgane at August 9, 2004 1:15 PM

If all the world was Muslim since the beginning of time, why had no one ever heard of them before AD 700. Their argument doesn't hold water.

Posted by: epg at August 9, 2004 2:00 PM

Never mind Islam didn't even exist when Jesus was born...

Posted by: Mike at August 9, 2004 3:46 PM

News Flash!
Noah's Ark was just found on Mt. Arrarat. Markings on the hull indicate it was built by a Muslim! Everything you know is a jewish/christian fabrication to keep you from knowing the truth. Everyone on the planet is muslim!
All Hulla

Posted by: Degenerate Artist at August 9, 2004 4:05 PM

WRONG!!! wrong .......wrong.... The ark was conceived by "others"

Furry little Noah, and his progeny only provided the labor..... and those humans were NOT ISLAMIC,....nor arab in any way shape or form!What "markings " do you refer to????

Posted by: AvrageJoe at August 9, 2004 4:37 PM

Oh you wert having fun at us...nevermind...Please disregard previous words.

Posted by: AvrageJoe at August 9, 2004 4:42 PM

It is interesting that the Bible talks about the land of Babylon being "the great whore, and the mother of deciet and all lies".

That is a bullseye from over 2,000 years ago.

But watch the UN and Europe will start believing this.

The West and the Christians need to be on a PR campaign, NOW!!!

Oh, and by the way this would be news to Mohammed since he created the religion (cult).

The way to look at their statement of rewritten history:

1. If they are right, then Jesus and Mohammed are both liers.
2. If they are right, then Jesus was right.

Either way Mohammed is a lier. That great "Whore".

Posted by: alaskan1000 at August 9, 2004 4:46 PM

Time Travel has been invented by the Muslims.

Why did God in his wisdom choose to come into the world as a man when he did in THE ROMAN ERA, because; in the general population (Greeks and Romans etc) there were many peopel moved in philosphical understanding, and in his conversations with the JEWISH people he had made himself perfectly understood, all he desired was for men to live at peace by the LAW he had explained to MOSES, to learn and to await his coming in the MESSIAH.

If TIME TRAVEL were possible we would have already seen travellers from the FUTURE and felt their effect, should we like to change the past (as man would dearly love to do) all we would have to do is move from one time to another, easier said than done as God has fixed his memory of us in the time we are, to change this memory would cause God to become forgetful (Even the hairs on your head are numbered) should we like to change the words that Jesus uttered or that Moses uttered; and that God uttered in Jesus (destroy this temple and in three days I shall raise it up), all we have to do is step 60 to 150 generations back and confront each of these divine personages saying "We are Muslims and have discovered TIME TRAVEL therefore we are GODS bow before us and become Muslims".

When a "great religion" tells a GREAT LIE we must consider our oblgaton to the TRUTH, and without any clamour we can draw from the worlds history the facts about Islam (which is not by the way a truly monotheistic religion because Mohammed is the centre of attention, and Allah is relegated to an echo of Mohammeds will).

Like Mohammed the scholars of Islam have created an antithesis to Judaism and to Christianity, first when Mohammed tried to get the Jews in 630 to agree that he (Mohammed) was the Messiah, that the Jews were expecting, he was so outraged by the refusal of the Jews to accept him (they laughed at him) that he broke treaties (blaming them) and had hundreds and hundreds beheaded to blot out the history of his monumnetal GAFFE, he had prior to this rewritten Jewish history to say that Abraham had turned up at Mecca with Ihsmael and God had asked him to sacrifice him on the stone of the Kaaba, the Bible version has Isaac at Mount Moriah (Calvary); this penchant for rewriting history is carried on by Muslim scholars today in fact some scholars are reported to have rewritten the whole of the Islamic "Holy Books" including the Koran, yet these people are appauded for their corrections and have advanced a dialog of death, which the Bible assuredly states will end in them being permanent guests in a fiery Hell.

Their is more hope of RESURRECTION occurring in which a man remembers his previous existence (John The Baptist / Elijah than TIME TRAVEL.

The arrogance of Islam is that it prophesies lies, thinking that world domination would enable them to cover up all their sins ; this wil never happen because the TRUTH cannot be hid, nor MANUFACTURED, disguised, or minimised, if TIME TRAVEL is the only way to avoid the punishments so justly deserved for evil deeds the closest you will come to that is in the PURE REGENARATIVE LOVE of JESUS CHRIST through REPENTANCE.

Exodus 20

The Ten Commandments

1 And God spoke all these words:

2 "I am the LORD your God, who brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery.
3 "You shall have no other gods before [1] me.
4 "You shall not make for yourself an idol in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below. 5 You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the fathers to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me, 6 but showing love to a thousand {generations} of those who love me and keep my commandments.
7 "You shall not misuse the name of the LORD your God, for the LORD will not hold anyone guiltless who misuses his name.
8 "Remember the Sabbath day by keeping it holy. 9 Six days you shall labor and do all your work, 10 but the seventh day is a Sabbath to the LORD your God. On it you shall not do any work, neither you, nor your son or daughter, nor your manservant or maidservant, nor your animals, nor the alien within your gates. 11 For in six days the LORD made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, but he rested on the seventh day. Therefore the LORD blessed the Sabbath day and made it holy.
12 "Honor your father and your mother, so that you may live long in the land the LORD your God is giving you.
13 "You shall not murder.
14 "You shall not commit adultery.
15 "You shall not steal.
16 "You shall not give false testimony against your neighbor.
17 "You shall not covet your neighbor's house. You shall not covet your neighbor's wife, or his manservant or maidservant, his ox or donkey, or anything that belongs to your neighbor."

18 When the people saw the thunder and lightning and heard the trumpet and saw the mountain in smoke, they trembled with fear. They stayed at a distance 19 and said to Moses, "Speak to us yourself and we will listen. But do not have God speak to us or we will die."
20 Moses said to the people, "Do not be afraid. God has come to test you, so that the fear of God will be with you to keep you from sinning."
21 The people remained at a distance, while Moses approached the thick darkness where God was.

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Posted by: breadwinner at August 9, 2004 6:16 PM

Palestinian destruction of archeological proof of the Temple Mounts existence.

Regards everyone,

KC

Posted by: kc England at August 9, 2004 7:22 PM

The Pals destruction of the foundation of the temple mount is going to backfire on them. The southern wall is collapsing [I think it's the southern side] and my bring down the Dome of the Rock. This would make way for the end-time Jewish temple.

Posted by: Carolyn2 at August 9, 2004 8:22 PM

should have written may bring down...

Posted by: Carolyn2 at August 9, 2004 8:34 PM

These lying muslims never cease to amaze me. But whats more amazing is the fanatical brainwashed fools they tell these lies to believe every single word.

Heres an amusing problem with these claims.

The muslims call Jews "prophet killers" to blame them for Jesus death (as if they really care about Jesus)

Well if this PA propaganda is true and the Jews of today are not the same Jews as the ones from the bible, then why do they call the Jews of today "prophet killers" if in fact it was the muslims who supposedly killed Jesus?

Posted by: SonofMoses at August 9, 2004 8:53 PM

I hope you're sitting, Al Gore, 'cuz...the ARABS invented the internet!

Posted by: 3812Michelle at August 9, 2004 11:03 PM

This rewriting of history is a desperate attempt by Muslims to feel relevant and to avoid accepting that their belief system is a backward, failed, evil ideology and the cause of their misery, poverty, death of millions, and screwed up countries.

They are desperately trying to make us believe Islam was always around, did great things, had great people, and since we're all supposed to be Muslims then how can we criticize Islam and view it as a threat?

As the information age roars along, it brings enlightenment to the world on many things. One major thing many of us are learning about now is Islam. The truth of Islam. It's so much easier now that we've got websites and blogs and discussion forums to pass along and absorb information. Previously, we would have had to have pored over big, dry tomes on the subject, or just taken the word of mullahs, politicians, PC multiculti lefties and other Muslims who would have fed us the sanitized, filtered BS version. Now, we have a network of contacts, worldwide, to discuss, analyze, criticize. It allows us to make up our own minds. And they don't like that. It's a threat to their reality, to their intentions, to their power base.

The other threat is the PC idiots in the school systems and govt who allow this rubbish to get into our school textbooks and into the public accepted viewpoint. They're too shy to laugh out loud at these outrageous remarks and tell them to shove it.

Posted by: feralee at August 9, 2004 11:58 PM

I wonder if the PA realize that they are going against their own Koran. It is very likely that they ignore this vese below which is embarassing to them.

And We said thereafter to the Children of Israel, "Dwell securely in the land (of promise)": but when the second of the warnings came to pass, We gathered you together in a mingled crowd. Sura AL-ISRA 17:104

The Muslim Muslims scholar and cleric who supported the view that Israel was willed by Allah to exist in security are:

Prof. Khaleel Mohammed, Assistant Professor at the Department of Religious Studies at San Diego State University. Re:
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=13587 and
http://web.israelinsider.com/bin/en.jsp?enPage=ArticlePage&enDisplay=view&enDispWhat=object&enDispWho=Article%5El3717&enZone=Diplomacy&enVersion=0&

Sheikh Prof. Abdul Hadi, secretary general of the Italian Muslim Association and Muslim co-chair of the Islam-Israel Fellowship of the Root and Branch Association

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=22446

Posted by: Nicolei at August 10, 2004 1:24 AM

Ah, religious propaganda at its finest.

To begin with, Abraham never built the "altar" of the Ka'aba. This is Arab propaganda.

Second, Muslims do not acknowledge or follow the 10 commandments. They broke the first one when they picked the moon god Allah as head honcho in Islam.

Exodus 20:4-5
Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above or that is in the earth beneath or that is in the water under the earth, thou shalt not bow down thyself to them nor serve them for I the Lord they God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me.

That pretty little crescent and star on the flags of many Islamic nations, not to mention the crescents on the mosques, just won't cut it.

Regarding the other commandments, they deliberately choose to disobey the one forbidding adultery in allowing polygamy; they repeatedly violate "Thou shalt not kill" every day, the bear false witness constantly through taqiyya, and as a cult they are estranged from the true Judeo-Christian faiths.

Posted by: abad at August 10, 2004 1:57 AM

If these muslims think that their allah is the same as our God they must be smoking some good hash. The laws of the Torah that were given to the Israelites specifically FORBIDS both suicide and putting your life in danger voluntarily. The Torah places the wellbeing of a human being over and above the actual laws. You are allowed to break any law if its a threat your health. The sanctity of life is the most important consideration and is a sign that the laws are Gods laws. If God created life he would want all his creation kept holy and treated with respect.

In contrast the koran, which is the word of the devil, encourages death, destruction, and mutilation and puts the rules over and above human life.

Here are some basics on the Torah, you can see how its ideology is so far removed from that of the evil cult islam which proves that Judaism and Christianity have nothing to do with islam.

We are commanded to preserve our health and well being, as the Torah states, "Take heed and guard your life very carefully" (Deut. 4:9), and "Guard your lives very carefully" (ibid. 4:15). It is therefore forbidden for a person to deliberately injure himself or endanger his life or health in any way. Torah law itself requires that we be more strict concerning a danger to our physical well being than concerning a violation of its own commandments.

One who places either his own or another's life in danger is guilty of violating the commandment, "Do not allow a dangerous situation to remain in your house" (Deut. 22:8). For this reason, one should keep his property clear of anything that might cause a serious accident.

It is an extremely serious sin to cause one's own death, whether by intent or negligence. One who does so is considered a murderer, as the Torah states, "I will surely demand an account for [spilling] your own life's blood" (Genesis 9:5).

These Muslims have no idea they are following satan and not God.

Posted by: SonofMoses at August 10, 2004 4:01 AM

It's worrying, not only does it seem that Moses, Abraham and Jesus were Muslims, now even Winnie-the-Pooh seems to have become a Muslim, according to ...

"Was Winnie the Pooh a Good Muslim?"
http://www.geocities.com/ibntahhara/

(Please engage "satire mode" before reading :-)

Posted by: MrFlibble at August 10, 2004 8:56 AM

I just read that story, it was amusing but this quote is even more amusing.

In recent years a growing trend among many Muslims has been to make the claim that Jesus was a ‘good Muslim’.[1] Others have described him as ‘a prophet of Islam’. Their method has been simple: by mining the New Testament Gospels they have sought to show that Jesus fasted, prostrated when he prayed, gave to the poor, and a wide range of other Islamic practices.

Jesus was a Jew, he followed the Jewish law which teaches fasting, prostating when you pray and charity. These are JEWISH customs.

mohammed, the pedophile, knew the Jewish practices because he lived amongst Jews and Christians. When he wrote his fictional book, the koran, he COPIED these traditions. Then he forbade his followers from having contact with Jews and Christians. And now this is the result. Naive and indoctrinated muslims read accounts of Jesus practicising his JEWISH faith and think he must be a muslim.

We know history quite well and according to the koran the Jews and Christians were called the "people of the book", which means the people of the Torah, where all these practices are laid out.

How is it that muslims are so stupid to argue that Jesus was a muslim when they have been given the historical story from mohammed himself???

Posted by: SonofMoses at August 10, 2004 12:38 PM

The Nazis did the same thing, when they invented their own so called "Mithology". They took bits from the Vikings, mixed it with German Mythology, and took bits abd pieces from other nations, mixed in a little chiristianity, and there it was, the Myth of the Arya. It was strikingly simmilar method, and they too came up with the end result, that they are an ancient tribe better than all the rest, they are übermensch. They too tried to invent hystoric background to their murderous ideology.

Posted by: gloria at August 10, 2004 2:01 PM

i wish some radical jews would kidnap some Hamas or other terror memebers and make Jewish-style videotaped beheadings... it would finally pay the Muslims back for their evil deeds... how dare they murder Jews and then claim Jewish history as their own?

its a tragedy...

GOD BLESS THE U.S.A.

LONG LIVE ISRAEL IN HER SOVEREIGN LAND FROM RIVER TO THE SEA

Posted by: dave_472 at August 10, 2004 5:11 PM

You know, in looking over this subject and many of the comments, it reminds me of a comment I heard one radio talk show host saying. He did his studies in totalitarian regimes. He made quite a few trips to the former USSR and mentioned that while there he came across a well known statement: "The future is certain, it is the past that keeps changing."

This is the same mentality the Palestinians bring to the table. We already know, according to Islam, the future, but we need to keep an eye on the past. It is slippery. The darn thing keeps changing. ;-) We have to make sure it meets up with our vision for the future, the one that we already know is going to happen.

Posted by: paula at August 15, 2004 5:32 AM