Oh such a mercifull religion, and to have the likes of Rezai be the one to front, could do nothing more than to instill confidence in Sharia.

This is what the West needs..Sharia (not the backward western justice system primarily based on Christian principles and commonsense).....because in this case it really highlights how women are treated....just for having a sharp tongue.

Hey Reza.....you should keep this article as part of your portfolio when you want to espouse the virtues of Sharia......The women of the West will just flock to Sharia....just from this example.

Posted by: Joe Bananas at August 22, 2004 8:00 AM

This tragic story really sums up the essence of Islam. Cruelty towards women and non-Muslims is the foundation stone of Islam, and its main selling point for the dregs who 'revert'. If this element of sadism was taken away, little else would remain. Ever seen a Christian youth wearing a Torquemada t-shirt?

Posted by: Doctor Phibes at August 22, 2004 11:29 AM

What was the original charge?

Posted by: phd_can2003 at August 22, 2004 1:16 PM

You do not know all the circumstances of this case, yet you feel free to make judgements and condemn the Islamic court. It appears that the criminal infuriated the judge, at least by verbal disrespect and perhaps even by uttering blasphemies. We imply cannot determine the entire story from this short, obviously biased article. The only thing of which we can be sure is that the judge in question was highly educated, experienced, and knowledgeable in Islamic law.

Your eagerness to accept this fragmentary story and attack Islam and Sharia demonstrates only your own racial and religious bigotry. All that we really know is that the criminal was not judged according to the corrupt, unjust, man-made laws of your degenerate Western culture.

Allahu akbar

Posted by: Reza at August 22, 2004 1:23 PM

You do not know all the circumstances of this case, yet you feel free to make judgements and condemn the Islamic court. It appears that the criminal infuriated the judge, at least by verbal disrespect and perhaps even by uttering blasphemies.....................................

Most posters know all i am about to say as a "given" this is called (REALITY)

This is primarily for the ISLAMIC BARBARIANS........... read closely

You must be insane.

A CHILD! was MURDERED for contempt of court???
We do not consider a human to be an adult until FULL physical development.

Sixteen is NOT adult

This was a CHILD .We surmise the crime was "fornication" as the Male was issued "lashings"

Horrific,... truly insanely barbaric!
Yet this is NORMAL and COMMONPLACE in the brutal lands of ISLAM along with a host of other brutal atrocities enabled by
SHIRA LAW!

Surely the planet itself heaves in ANGUISH at such illogical,
INSANE cavemen still living upon the surface.

If this female human was CIRCUMSISED (equal to the lopping off of the WHOLE male member in severity of effect on nerve clusters,
then she didn't even get the fleeting pleasure afforded to
animals as an incentive for procreation before her young life was LAWFULLY, BRUTALLY, snuffed out by GARROTING ,
sick sick sick.

The earth needs to WAKE UP and SHAKE off this SICKNESS that inhabits the desert wastelands of the MIDEVILEAST.

Posted by: AvrageJoe at August 22, 2004 2:14 PM

Because the 'prophet' Mohammed was a mentally-ill pedophile who molested nine year-old girls, it's no surprise that Islam appeals to those who are similarly afflicted. Child abuse and murder is not something that a sane person would ever advocate, it's the domain of the psychopath and the criminal. Islam is not a religion, since it lacks the transcendental aspects found in other religions, and instead focuses on earthly concerns such as how to punish unbelievers, and what to do with their women when you capture them. Islam is an ideology of the insane, and the Koran is a handbook for hebephrenics.

Posted by: Doctor Phibes at August 22, 2004 2:28 PM

http://www.activistchat.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=3661

Translation From Persian: By Khorshid ActivistChat Member

On Sunday August 15, 2004, a 16 year old girl by the name of Atefe Rajabi, daughter of Ghassem Rajabi, was executed in the town of Neka, located in the province of Mazandaran, for “engaging in acts incompatible with chastity”. The execution was carried out by the order of Neka’s “judicial administrator” and was approved by both the Supreme Court of the Islamic Republic and the chief of the nation’s “judiciary branch.”

Although according to her birth certificate she was only 16 years old, the local court falsely claimed that she was 22.

Three months ago, during her appearance before the local court, fiercely angry the young girl hurled insults at the local judge, Haji Reza, who is also the chief judicial administrator of the city, and it is said as another expression of protest took off some of her clothes in the courtroom. This act by the young girl made the administrator so furious that he evaluated her file personally and in less than three months received a go-ahead from the Islamic Republic’s Supreme Court for her execution. The animosity and anger of Haji Reza was so strong that he personally put the rope around the girl’s delicate neck and personally gave the signal to the crane operator, by raising his hand, to begin pulling the rope.

It may be noted that although according to the Islamic Republic’s own penal laws the presence of an attorney for the defense [is supposed to be] mandatory, regardless of the defendant’s ability to afford one, nevertheless the girl remained without an attorney. Her unfortunate father, while tears poured from his eyes, went about the city beseeching the townspeople for money to hire an attorney who in the least would provide his daughter with a line of defense.

The young girl was buried the same day after her execution but during that same night her corpse was disinterred by unknown individuals and robbed. The theft remains unexplained and the Rajabi family has filed a complaint.

The 16 year old girl’s male companion, who had been arrested as well, received 100 lashes and, after the Islamic punishment was carried out, released.

Posted by: Ali Dashti at August 22, 2004 2:42 PM

Internet Toolbox for Islam-critics, links to some Iranian news and media:

http://www.apostatesofislam.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=661

http://www.iranfocus.com/

http://www.daneshjoo.org/cgi-bin/messageboard/ikonboard.cgi

http://www.activistchat.com/

http://iranfilter.com/

http://www.radiofarda.com/archive/transcripts/en/

http://www.iranmania.com/news/

Posted by: Ali Dashti at August 22, 2004 2:48 PM

I recommend reading this article by Iranian ex-Muslim, and champion of women's rights, Azam Kamguian:

http://www.middleastwomen.org/html/secularist.htm

Her testimony, along with that of other Iranians, can be read in the book "Leaving Islam", edited by Ibn Warraq:

http://www.secularislam.org/testimonies/index.htm

Posted by: Ali Dashti at August 22, 2004 3:27 PM

What an extraordinarily brave 16-year-old! Fortunately for her, her hell on earth has ended.

Posted by: 3812Michelle at August 22, 2004 3:37 PM

Brave child, for she was only a child in years although a lioness in courage in defying the rage and hatred of her criminal Judge[May he be accursed!] We must show the same courage and determination in stamping out and on the vile DEATH CULT OF ISLAM. This 16 yr old has told us it is better to die than live as slaves under
Barbarous Killer Clerics.
My suggestion to REZA is to go and live in Iran under Sharia Law where she can be a mouthpiece of the Mullahs. Hopefully REZA might upset one of the Judges too and will be sentenced to stoning and die as a good Muslim, ever obedient to Allah and blood soaked Qur'an...

Posted by: Morgane at August 22, 2004 3:59 PM

Reza - the kindest thing I can say about you is brainwashed!

Obviously in the M.E. a sixteen-year-old girl is not considered a child as nine-year old girls are considered old enough to have a marriage consumated, which is child abuse.

This young woman was brave beyond her years. And to add insult to injury her corpse was robbed. For these people there is no shame!

Posted by: epg at August 22, 2004 4:25 PM

This girl was a true martyr, unlike the homocidal terrorists who blow themselves up and take innocent lives with them in order to bonk virgins in the evil realm of Jannah.

May we never forget her brave deeds or her courage in a world not of her choosing.

Reza, your mind must truly be so far rotted by the constantly seeping evil of your religion that you condone this vile act of barbarism.

Posted by: kafira at August 22, 2004 5:53 PM

This is the usual Mullacratic Shariah "justice". None have suffered more than the "apostate" religious minority community of the Bahá'ís.

Throughout the past century, the Bahá'ís of Iran have been relentlessly persecuted. With the triumph of the Islamic revolution in 1979, this persecution has been systematized. More than 200 Bahá'ís have been executed or killed, hundreds more have been imprisoned, and tens of thousands have been deprived of jobs, pensions, businesses, and educational opportunities. All national Bahá'í administrative structures have been banned by the Government, and holy places, shrines and cemeteries have been confiscated, vandalized, or destroyed. Their marriages have been decreed null and they are all therefore considered guilty of fornication, a common charge brought against them in Iranian courts that invariably results in capital punishment.

The 350,000-member Bahá'í community comprises the largest religious minority in that country, and Bahá'ís have been oppressed solely because of religious hatred. Islamic fundamentalists in Iran and elsewhere have long viewed the Bahá'í Faith as a threat to Islam and have branded the Bahá'ís as apostates. The progressive stands of the Faith on women's rights, independent investigation of truth, and education have particularly rankled Muslim clerics.

In June 1983 the Iranian authorities arrested ten Bahá'í women and girls. The charge against them: teaching children's classes on the Bahá'í Faith--the equivalent of Sunday school in the West. The youngest of these "apostates" was 16 years old.

The women were subjected to intense physical and mental abuse in an effort to coerce them to recant their Faith--an option that is always pressed on Bahá'í prisoners. Yet, like most Bahá'ís who were arrested in Iran, they refused to deny their beliefs. As a result, they were all found guilty of apostacy and publicly executed.

International protest against the persecution has been widespread. Thousands of newspaper articles about the situation of the Bahá'ís in Iran have appeared around the world. Prominent international organizations, including the European Parliament and several national legislatures, have passed resolutions condemning or expressing concern about the Bahá'ís of Iran. Most important, the United Nations Commission on Human Rights and the General Assembly have pressed the Iranian regime to observe international human rights covenants with yearly resolutions--resolutions that have paid specific attention to the Bahá'í situation.

In response to this international outcry, the most violent aspects of this persecution had abated by the early 1990s--although at least one Bahá'í, a 50-year old Teheran businessman, was killed by the Government in 1992. However, the Bahá'ís of Iran remain without any fundamental guarantee of their right to practice their religion freely, and international efforts to win their emancipation continue.

Posted by: Hulegu Khan at August 22, 2004 6:56 PM

Let's have a memorial to her. Let nobody forget her name.

Posted by: Voltaire at August 22, 2004 7:12 PM

It's heartbreaking. :-(

This isn't a story of justice, it's about an egotistical judge who couldn't take any criticism from a defiant young girl, so, against the law, denied her the right to a lawyer, and put the noose around her neck himself.

This isn't any religious law, it's the practice of a bloodthirsty, misogynous, Death Cult which needs to be fed human souls... it's just Satanism using another name... and all the while, the rest of the world is trying to appease this entity and its adherents.

I hope this "judge" rots in hell for eternity.

Posted by: Nannette at August 22, 2004 8:08 PM

Yet another argument for western imperialism.

Posted by: George R at August 22, 2004 9:21 PM

It makes me incredibly sad to hear about executions taking place
on our world such as public hangings of childrens, behaeding of
humans, stoning of women, empoisening of condemneds.
What can we do to call to account such judges as Haji Rezaii
who personaly hanged a 16 year old child ?
There must be something we can do to condemn these bastards
but what ?

Posted by: raman at August 22, 2004 10:17 PM

This vile, unrepentant fornicator dishonored herself, her family, and the ummah. She hurled verbal abuse at the learned judge of the Islamic court and even went so far as to dishonor him by removing some of her clothing!

This criminal knew well the consequences of violating Allah's (swt) devine law. May her blood help to expunge her family's shame and dishonor.

Allahu akbar

Posted by: Reza at August 22, 2004 10:48 PM

This criminal knew well the consequences of violating Allah's (swt) devine law. May her blood help to expunge her family's shame and dishonor.

So she was raped, and in your eyes she is a fornicator?, she was raped, and her family is dishonoured and shamed?....

You know Reza, the only Vile creatures on this earth are you,your judges, and your kind.

Posted by: Joe Bananas at August 22, 2004 11:33 PM

there is nothing on the entire world which does justify to condemn a person to death.
I'm i a better person because i believe in forgiveness, tolerance and love ?
It's not our task to judge over others, it's the one of God.
You are wrong when deciding who may live or not, only God kwnows when it's time to leave.
I'm so glad to live in a country where there isn't any death penalty and where the people learned to live in peace together.

Don't kill more people !

Greetings from Switzerland

Posted by: raman at August 22, 2004 11:42 PM

...and even went so far as to dishonor him by removing some of her clothing!

You mean, like her niqab (veil) or tentlike khimar? Shocking.

Posted by: Hulegu Khan at August 22, 2004 11:48 PM

Okay Reza, let's go over the hard facts that you refuse to acknowledge:

1. This whole shameful affair only further exemplifies why the notion of human rights is incompatible with Islam.

2. Fornicating is a basic human instinct. The fact that she was executed for such is absolute insanity which has somehow been deemed acceptable by your brutal religion.

3. Why was the man let off only with lashes, while this supposedly guilty girl was murdered? Is it perhaps because Islam is as sexist a concept as they come? Why yes, I think it is.

Her blood will not restore her family's honour; rather, it should serve as a warning to all those that attempt to delude themselves into thinking that Islam is both fair and impartial. May that judge burn in hell with Muhammad.

Posted by: Michael K. at August 22, 2004 11:50 PM

Here's some of the latest Islamic fashions for all the ladies monitoring this forum. As you can see, it still remains all the rage since its 9th century (anno domini) creation. And it comes in a choice of colors, Israeli blue or Death black.

Posted by: Hulegu Khan at August 22, 2004 11:54 PM

HELEGU KHAN
Only word to describe this collection of tents is
...HIDEOUS!

Posted by: Morgane at August 23, 2004 12:52 AM

Jesus Christ, the King of Kings, the Son of the living God, said to the woman caught in adultery, "...your sins are forgiven, go and sin no more." I pray that the living Christ took the soul of this poor girl into paradise. Let us never forget the name of Atefe Rajabi.

Posted by: lafn at August 23, 2004 1:02 AM

"This vile, unrepentant fornicator dishonored herself, her family, and the ummah. She hurled verbal abuse at the learned judge of the Islamic court and even went so far as to dishonor him by removing some of her clothing!

This criminal knew well the consequences of violating Allah's (swt) devine law. May her blood help to expunge her family's shame and dishonor."

Are there any psychiatrists here who can shed some light on this statement? Is it perhaps caused by paranoid schizophrenia? The fixation with 'shame and dishonour' certainly points in that direction, does it not?

Posted by: Doctor Phibes at August 23, 2004 1:18 AM

Well, Reza, and what lesson has this taught her and her family? If you cannot raise your daughters to be respectful and obediant to authority, then see what happens? A "sharp tongue" is sooo un-Islamic, sooo un-submissive, if she were to get away with this, we might have a rebellion or revolution to deal with?
Cannonize her Saint Ateqeh of the Iranian Woman's revolution!

Posted by: Degenerate Artist at August 23, 2004 2:40 AM

Hulegu:

I wonder how a woman who has asthma or other respiratory difficulties, even a cold, would be able to wear this garb.

Posted by: Voltaire at August 23, 2004 5:04 AM

Islam is very primitive and miserable, it´s argueable to condemn the death to the rapist but condemn the death to the victim?, we have to remember is the victim, no the rapist, I know that Jesus remembered of this girl, because she is better than us, she is in the heaven.
Jesus, forgive us because they don´t really know what have done, will be done, and had done. Forgive them.

Posted by: Franze at August 23, 2004 1:33 PM

Reza;

You seem to be enjoying the fact a youth has been put to death. There is something very wrong with you.

Posted by: ReligionOfPeaceMyArse at August 23, 2004 2:01 PM

Go get your rabies shot, Reza.
Aloha Snackbar.

Posted by: Rottweiller at August 23, 2004 2:44 PM

She was covered head to toe and still raped...so I guess the arguement for wearing a tent is far gone...thought the tent would protect her from men, guess not.

Posted by: USAgirl at August 23, 2004 7:52 PM

Fellow citizens of Canada and USA:

Wake-up! This is what CAIR is all about. Though they may sugar coat it, they want control and no one to question them.

Posted by: Truth at August 23, 2004 9:34 PM

Dr Phibes,

I believe it is an issue of projection and being power mad. It is the statement of someone so threatened by any thought process that does not agree with itself, that it seeks to dominate others. Islam is about control and domination. It is a VERY threatened and paranoid belief system and structure - and as a result very fragile. For instance, if I have to control others by dominating them, then I am really a slave to those whom I seek to dominate. Islam, in essence is not free. It is the religion of slaves and slavery. Truthfully, those locked in Islam are really as oppressed as the people they seek to subjugate. It is very sad.

Posted by: paula at August 24, 2004 6:04 AM

Oh, to answer one of your questions. No, paranoid schizophrenia also deals with a break from reality that includes psychotic overtones. The diagnosis includes: 1) delusions, 2) halucinations, 3) disorganized speech, 4) grossly disorganized or catatonic behavior, and/or 5) negative symptoms, i.e. affective flattening, alogia, or avolition. While it is true that the Paranoid Type may, or may not, display less of the above, they are there nonetheless, under the surface.

I believe that Islam, based on the cultural values the embrace and perpetuate, creates a type of personality that I would reference along the lines of a Personality Disorder: perhaps Narcissistic, Paranoid or Anti-Social - but I would not refer to it as schizophrenia. The functioning of these people is on too high a level for that diagnosis.

Posted by: paula at August 24, 2004 6:22 AM

A CHALLENGE TO REZA

Reza...putting to death a girl or anyone for that matter for just offending someone has no ethical basis to it. If we were to start killing each other just for offending others we would have a society totally based on chaos. Also if you were to apply any school of ethics in academic literature not based on religous precepts you will find that putting to death a girl for having sex or just speaking her personal opinions is not justifiable. I don't know this womans case but there is also no non-religous based school of ethics that can argue for a justifiable reason why someone who has been raped should be put to death. I know there are religions in the past that called for horrible treatment of people. We now know better I would like to beleive. When I was a child I read about how stoning was gods law in the past. However as a young child no matter how hard I tried to understand the law, I couldn't find an ethical argument for it that was based on logical thought in the absence of religious influences. Reeza... you need to think just this....if you had never known about religion at all could you make an ethical arguement that was logical for this girl to be treated the way she was. The fact is such a logical arguement doesn't exist...but you need to try to do this for yourself. Apply non-religous based logic to this situation and then write what you come up with at this website.If you find a school of ethics not based on religion that does argue logically for this girl to be so treated then you can post it here. You are a human being..apply logic free of any religious influences and see what you come up with just for the sake of it. What have you got to loose.

Posted by: ethical at August 24, 2004 9:21 AM

Ironic how Islam is so very concerned with morality and such, and yet its practitioners throughout the world display some of the most barbaric behavior known to mankind. Let's look at this for what it really is: that cro-magnon that goes by the name Haji Rezaii was personally offended by the young woman's very vocal protest of what she recognized to be ridiculous accusations against her-- and he was also aroused by her displaying of her body, and that was a shock to his antiquated, byzantine mindset. He wouldn't have this, and felt it a blow to his own ego, and so decided to exact his revenge against her. Hence his personally applying the rope around her neck-- I'm sure he relished that moment. In my humble and currently incensed opinion, Islam is an absolutely fraudulent religion, a blatant plagiarism of and cheap imitation of those other religions it shares so much in common with: Judaism and Christianity. However, it is based upon a very violent and undeveloped mindset attempting to understand transcendent human principles, and consequently failing miserably in its efforts to do so. I believe this is why it borrows so heavily from the other two well-established religions of the time, riding piggyback upon their respective successes. I have read the Koran, and found it lacking in true spiritual insight-- if I may be so bold to say so-- and highly illogical in its tenets. It requires nothing more than blind adherence to its dogma, and impartial analysis of this dogma may result in fatal penalties. It is nothing more than antiquated medieval pseudophilosophy, and yet the saddest and most alarming aspect of it is the frightening pace at which it is growing as a faith throughout the world, invariably within third world countries where the people are starving, and desperate for opportunity. This is where the moslem missionaries come into play, and spread their twisted illogical message of zeal and false spirituality among souls so desperately in need.
As for the guy whose entry tells us we don't know enough about the case mentioned before making judgments: some of us know enough. Some of us, in fact, know enough about Islam. Some of us know enough about the theory and the practice of Islam, and the inhumane practices and beliefs it espouses. We here in the West may not be "Pillars of Moral Rectitude", but then again, who gives a damn-- as long as we're not hurting others or imposing our own wills upon others--not to mention killing them for not not being or thinking like us-- we're left to deal with our problems ourselves. And our ways of dealing with crime are positively enlightened in comparison with your regressive torturous approach. Sounds angry, doesn't it? Oh yeah, you're so right. And I'm holding back. --A young woman was executed for possibly being raped, or at the very least having sex!!!! OR, because she was sassy!!! What the hell is wrong with you? Do you really think you can justify this?! Because if you do, then I know that there's absolutely no point in even attempting to debate matters with you. Such a mindset is completely devoid of the milk of human kindness, and frightfully lost to the darkness that this religion espouses. And if the "criminal", as you call her-- there alone I already know you're a lost cause-- HAD been judged under the "corrupt, unjust, man-made laws of our degenerate Western culture", er case would've been dismissed, and instead, the guy who got off with a hundred lashes would've been brought in and tried for rape! And that's what we like to call justice, because since we're here and can't vouch for a God that doesn't seem to reply to everyone's calls, we have to take it upon ourselves to devise the fairest laws by which to assess human affairs! Until "God" finally puts in an apppearance and lets us ALL know what's goin' on.

Posted by: Source at August 25, 2004 1:24 AM

"All that we really know is that the criminal was not judged according to the corrupt, unjust, man-made laws of your degenerate Western culture."
(Posted by: Reza)

"Such a mindset is completely devoid of the milk of human kindness, and frightfully lost to the darkness that this religion espouses. And if the "criminal", as you call her-- there alone I already know you're a lost cause-- HAD been judged under the "corrupt, unjust, man-made laws of our degenerate Western culture", er case would've been dismissed, and instead, the guy who got off with a hundred lashes would've been brought in and tried for rape!"
(Posted by: Source)

Isn't it amazing how those "corrupt, unjust, man-made laws" show more compassion and justice than the "pure, just, Allah-made laws" of the Qur'an? The difference between the two is shocking to say the least. Who is interested in laws that are so backward that they condemn a 16 year old to death just because she says something in a pique? You know, I will take those "corrupt" laws any day. At least they show more compassion and humanity than does Islamic Shariah

Posted by: paula at August 26, 2004 6:10 AM