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CAIR Canada has come out against Sharia in that country! The word, that is. As savvy at PR as their American counterparts, they are trying to smooth over the reality of Sharia's coming to Canada by not of using the word. Meanwhile, their talk here of instituting adequate safeguards is interesting: it illustrates that they know that people need safeguards against Sharia, for one thing. Let's hope that whatever safeguards do get put into place are adequate. From CP, with thanks to LGF:
TORONTO (CP) -- A Canadian Islamic group is trying to prevent the word shariah from being included in Ontario's Arbitration Act on the grounds it creates a "slippery slope'' that blurs dangerously the lines between family and criminal law.Currently, the law provides for voluntary faith-based arbitration, which allows Muslims, Jews and members of other faiths to use the guiding principles of their religion in settling private disputes such as divorce, custody issues and inheritances outside the court system.
But the Council on American-Islamic Relations Canada is worried that including the word shariah in the legislation would enshrine in law so-called shariah tribunals, which they say are a violation of the Charter of Rights and Freedoms.
While CAIR-CAN supports faith-based arbitration as an alternative to litigation, Saloojee and others say safeguards are necessary to ensure that vulnerable groups, especially women, are not "coerced'' into using the practice....
Moderate Muslim cleric Ahmad Kutty, one of two Canadian imams who made headlines a year ago when they were kicked out of the U.S. on suspicions of terrorism, said he supports leaving shariah out of the act.
"Shariah is a loaded word; it includes all of the civil, criminal and other institutions associated with the Islamic legal system,'' Kutty said. "No one in his right mind would propose implementing this system of laws in Canada.''
But Kutty said he still supports the concept of faith-based arbitration, so long as "sufficient safeguards and checks and balances'' are in place to protect the rights of ``those who are often vulnerable to exploitation.''
Saloojee said the use of faith-based arbitration is on the rise for Canada's burgeoning Muslim community.
Islam is Canada's fastest growing religion, with 579,640 Muslims enumerated in the 2001 census, more than twice the number in 1991. Some 61 per cent, or 352,500, live in Ontario.
As a result, the province has asked former attorney general Marion Boyd to conduct a review of the province's arbitration processes.
She is expected to deliver her recommendations in September, but said she has yet to decide whether to recommend using the word shariah to describe faith-based arbitration for Muslims.
"I haven't made up my mind yet,'' Boyd said. "I can tell you that CAIR-CAN is not the only group that has suggested that it is inappropriate to call this shariah.''
Other groups, like the Institute of Islamic Law in Canada, have expressed support for the term shariah, Boyd said. The institute could not be reached for comment.
Tarek Fatah, co-founder of the Muslim Canadian Congress and host of TV's Muslim Chronicle, said Ontario should trash the entire process for fear it will only "ghettoize'' Muslims regardless of what it's called.
"In some ways this is the racism of lower expectations,'' said Fatah, who plans to meet with Boyd next week.
"Under the guise of empowering us and under some false notion of multiculturalism, the mainstream community is saying, 'Well, it doesn't affect us . . .we will have the public judicial system and the Muslims can hire their own private judges and if it affects someone negatively, it will not be one of us.'''
Fatah said he fears a two-tiered judicial system within the community that would see vulnerable, low-income groups "suckered'' into faith-based arbitration because they can't afford lawyers.
"We also believe the Islamic fundamentalists in the community are utilising this, trying to bring their right-wing, social-conservativism to dominate the Muslim narrative in Canada,'' Fatah added.
"It's shariah by stealth, actually.''
Posted by Robert at August 23, 2004 3:24 PM
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This will create more problems than it solves.
Just say NO, Canada.
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at August 23, 2004 4:14 PM
At least the word is getting out...when you start to see parodies like this:
http://www.sacredcowburgers.com/fresh/showpics.cgi?distant_early_warning
Posted by: Kirk at August 23, 2004 4:38 PM
Its not just Canada that needs to say "no" to dhimmitude. Here is another beaut from sacredcowburgers.com
http://www.sacredcowburgers.com/fresh/showpics.cgi?dhimmicrats
Posted by: Kirk at August 23, 2004 4:42 PM
Thanks for the link, Kirk. Check out ALL the pics, kids. You'll love the one featuring Michael Moore.
Posted by: Rottweiller at August 23, 2004 4:55 PM
i wonder what it will take for the west to wake up or even if it CAN wake up.
Posted by: forrestshalom at August 23, 2004 5:52 PM
Just how will they police the "volunteer" aspect of this. The women, especially the newer arrivals who may not speak english well or at all and who will likely be kept away from situations where they will know they even HAVE any rights since they are coming from places where they have little to none, will be forced and or beaten into doing what the male wants. If the arbitrator (or what ever they will call him) asks the woman if she is there as a volunteer of course she will say yes...what is the alternative? I have sent written letters to the local MP about shaira and my displeasure about Canada even considering it...havent heard back as of yet.
Posted by: USAgirl at August 23, 2004 5:59 PM
From the article: Kutty said. "No one in his right mind would propose implementing this system of laws in Canada."
Or elsewhere for that matter, Kutty. Or elsewhere.
Thanks for the link, Kirk. Check out ALL the pics, kids. You'll love the one featuring Michael Moore.
Posted by: Rottweiller
....assuming we hate Moore as much as Rottweiller.
Posted by: kj at August 23, 2004 7:30 PM
For the Canadians who post here, I have some important news, courtesy of Daniel Pipes. Sheema Khan, Chair of CAIR-Canada, has been elected to the Board of Directors of the Canadian Civil Liberties Association. This election has been done in a completely stealthy manner. No mention was made of her even being nominated for the position. The only organization that has reported on this happening, including even the CCLA itself, has been CAIR-Can. No major newspaper or news organization commented on this news to the best of my knowledge and web research. The Wahhabi lobby is taking over folks -very, very, very quietly. Here are the links:
http://www.danielpip...
http://www.cair-net....
CAIR- CAN Chair Joins Board of Civil Liberties Group
The head of the Canadian Council on
American-Islamic Relations (CAIR-CAN) has been elected to the Board of
Directors of the prestigious Canadian Civil Liberties Association (CCLA).
CAIR-CAN Chair Dr. Sheema Khan joins the CCLA Board for a 2-year term.
The CCLA was formed in 1964 and is operated with a volunteer board of
directors made up of prominent citizens that include some of Canada's most
well known names in law, journalism, politics, the arts, labour, business
and other fields. (For more on the CCLA, please visit: http://www.ccla.org.)
"CCLA is delighted with the election of Dr. Khan to its Board of Directors.
We look forward to her valuable contributions to our efforts at advancing
civil liberties, protecting human rights and promoting non-discrimination,"
said John McCamus, Chair of the CCLA Board.
Dr. Khan also spoke recently at the Canadian Bar Association (CBA) Canadian
Legal Conference. On August 15, she joined Professor Janice Gross Stein,
Director of the Munk Centre for International Studies at the University of
Toronto, and broadcaster Ann Medina for the Opening Panel "Engaging
Communities: Human Rights in Context?" (For more on the conference, please
visit: http://www.cba.org/C...)
Reacting to Dr. Khan's contributions and the positive reception she
received from the delegates, CBA president Susan McGrath said, "Dr. Khan's
comments were very informative, and highlighted the new realities that have
emerged in post-September 11 and the role we should be playing as citizens
and legal professionals in promoting and protecting human rights."
The CBA conference is the premiere annual event for legal professionals in
Canada. The CBA represents some 38,000 lawyers, judges, notaries, law
teachers, and law students from across Canada.
"As Canadian Muslims, we must be willing to be part of Canadian
institutions and to participate in national conferences," said CAIR-CAN
Executive Director Riad Saloojee.
"Such participation ensures that Canadian Muslims will provide perspectives
on contemporary issues, listen to the viewpoints of all and create a
meaningful exchange of ideas on issues of concern to all Canadians," he added.
CONTACT: Abdurahman Salman at 613-254-9704
at August 23, 2004 8:52 PM
Wow thats great news for sheema..she can help sharia pass through so that her husband may beat her legally, divorce her and take everything including the children, she will be entitled to only half the inheritence that a male would receive, and forget about that pesky "Dr." title, no working for a woman, stay home and fully covered and speak when spoken to...but on the upside she can lie to infidels legally and even kill them....things are going from bad to worse.
Posted by: USAgirl at August 23, 2004 9:47 PM
Oh happy day! Muslim doublespeak. It goes to the pattern of other less dangerous vocabulary changes. Shariah By Stealth stinks all the same.
at August 23, 2004 10:16 PM
moslems and the aclu or cclu?
this sounds ominous.
these people are out to force islam down our throats.
Posted by: forrestshalom at August 23, 2004 10:31 PM
They can call it what they like, it's still INFAMOUS SHARIA ISLAMIC LAW. A thousand curses on
Paul Martin and his PC Leftie Supporters.
at August 23, 2004 10:57 PM
USAgirl, you're spot on!
Oh sure, it's "voluntary" they tell us, through smiling, gritting teeth, hoping we're stupid enough to believe that. Yeah, right, pull the other one!
There was an article in a recent Vanity Fair that talked about French Muslim girls, and how much "choice" they had in their daily lives. Here they are, living in a free Western society, and do you think they live any different than they would if they were in Algeria or Syria? Ha! The girls are on a tight leash, no choice, no freedoms, living in fear of their parents and relatives finding out if they go out and just live a little. Living with the fear of "going on holidays to the old country" - meaning they get married off to someone they never met and don't like and never coming back, or if they do return to France it's with a good old-fashioned Muslim man who treats her just like he would back home. None of this French joie du vivre crap.
Yes, voluntary my butt! If you're isolated in their closed communities, little if any English, no knowledge of what's out there, of what your rights are as a Canadian, and a husband who makes sure you don't find out, you ain't getting any choice, honey! You'll live like you do in Jordan, Syria, Algeria, Iran. Like chattel.
Posted by: feralee at August 24, 2004 3:29 AM
Moslim personal law is permitted in India for India's roughly 12% moslem minority and vastly resented amongst its Hindu majority. Gandhi forced it down the country ina bid to reassure moslems that India won't use its paliamentry majorities to kill these special consessions to moslems.
Under these laws, evils such as polygamy, instant one-sided divorce (by the male only) are permitted and outside supervision by India's secular courts resisted. Then the Hindu nationalist BJP party declared that either moslems either accept a uniform civil code or accept sharia in toto (that would mean criminal law as well - like cutting off limbs, public floggings and stoning etc in all crimimal inter-moslem disputes).
Right now moslem males get the best of both worlds - 8th century domination over women and 21st century civil protections against barbaric punishments upon them. But sadly, this demand was dropped even within the BJP due to 'political compulsions' coz the mussies vote en bloc and can change the character of election results in a large number of constituencies.
Beware, west! The mussies have proven they can wield influence disproportionate to their numbers!
Posted by: voletti at August 24, 2004 5:44 AM
I don't understand why when implementing sharia law you can't use the word sharia to identify it. Isn't this what George Orwell warned us about in the book 1984. One plus one can't be called three...unless you want to confuse and mislead someone. Where is the logic in that...it makes no sense and is potentially dangerous for society if you have read Orwells book. And besides....isn't canadian law at least in theory designed to fully uphold a persons human rights....so as to protect people from being pressured into submitting to religious law...surely the pressure on women in many conservative islamic families to submit to sharia law must be very strong. This can not be ethicaly justified to be in the rights of any woman...the sharia legal code was developed 1300 years ago. It just isn't ethical to ignore 1300 years of legal advances...since the advances made since then are huge....for the benefit of everyone. Why should we go back 1300 years!!!!!
at August 24, 2004 10:08 AM
Sheema Khan has been overt about her hatred for the West and supports the CAIR backed courses
in Public schools that teach Islam under the guise of "Racism and Islamophobia" .
Also Tarek Fatah has pointed out that the Saudis
fund seminars in Canada that promote Whahabism
and aslo fund the medrassa's in British Columbia.
CAIR-CAN has yet to post any article that promotes harmony and understanding,their website has a online form to report a "Hate-crime" that is so vague it tells Muslims to report it even if it seems minor. These reports are what CAIR uses to claim Muslims are "Victims"
of hatred and Islamophobia.As for the census numbers that put the Muslum population at around 500,000 ,several groups pad the numbers and claim there are 1 Million Muslims along with about 12 organizations claiming to speak for all of them.
Sheema Khan did a scathing critique of a book by
a female Muslim that doesn't ware the Hijab and
is know for her gender as a lesbian. Sheema and
Tarek attacked her as a false-Muslim and shamed her on TV for not reading the Quran correctly.
Good luck to the people that now rely on Ms.Khan's version of justice human rights,I've seen her track record and it wouldn't surpise me if she demands people around her to adhere to Islamic dress and manners,also force others to hear Quranic verses during her prayers 5 times per day. This is just the begining for this cancer that wants to engulf the body and kill it from the inside-out,CAIR has tried to portray the Jews as demons and a special group that gets protection that Muslims groups don't .
Posted by: ala-sux at August 24, 2004 11:31 AM
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