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I remember once many years ago, doing some research on World War II and finding a cache of English-language Nazi magazines in a library. They were full of "Hitler's human side"-type articles. Now, of course, this sort of thing doesn't come from those who want to destroy us, but from their willing dhimmi accomplices on our side. From Reuters, with thanks to Jeffrey Imm:
LONDON (Reuters) - The Sept. 11 hijackers should be understood as human beings, the makers of a controversial television drama that charts their story said on Thursday."The Hamburg Cell", which follows the movements of two hijackers from the German based al Qaeda group involved in the U.S. attacks, was screened in Britain on Thursday and has attracted criticism from relatives of victims.
But the makers say the film is a carefully researched look at the lives of the hijackers.
The film shows them in tender scenes with girlfriends and family, but also depicts an all-male world of hateful dogmatism.
"Unless you know your enemies you don't know how to deal with them, and just demonising them doesn't help," said David Aukin, head of drama at Mentorn Films, the production company behind the programme.
"Understanding that they are human beings gives us some sense of what we are up against."
That's true to an extent. After all, for years I have studied the Qur'an and other Islamic texts for just this reason. But a TV drama is another thing, and I wonder how warmly it will be received by the likes of Al-Muhajiroun, the British jihadist group that calls the 9/11 hijackers "The Magnificent 19."
Posted by Robert at September 3, 2004 7:27 AM
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News about the UK and Islam:
http://www.apostatesofislam.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=661
http://www.portal.telegraph.co.uk/
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/
http://news.independent.co.uk/
http://www.theasiannews.co.uk/
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at September 3, 2004 9:33 AM
I agree, 'know your enemies'.
And if we did major new organizations like BBC and CNN would not report, for days now, on the school seige in Russia, without even once referring to the ideology that has now caused the mass murder of children...how many...we do not know.
And that is the way it is with Jihad. You never know how many Infidels may die, because Infidels are worthless.
I remember the Spain bombing. I knew immediately that it was Jihad. Not because ETA 'had never done anything like this', but because whoever did it had absolutely no regard for any of the lives of those folks on those trains...any of them...they might all die and it would not matter one bit...And THAT is Jihad.
An old English woman, a young Puerto Rican baby, a Mexican worker, a young German girl, a Russian child, an American businessmen: if we understood our enemies we would understand that the lives of all these folks...the lives of Infidels are utterly expendable in the Jihad. They do not matter. So, if they are killed in a train, a bus, an airplane, or how about a nuclear blast...with how many others, that does not matter either, unless Muslims are killed. Then the moral authority of the Jihad can be questioned.
So, Mentron films, know your enemy, and know that now as dhimmis you have some value to the Jihad that would otherwise consider all of you, if you are not Muslim, worthless.
Posted by: JTF at September 3, 2004 10:35 AM
At least they are not saying that they were Zionists, or American CIA.... I think if there were more movies, and television that at least identified the enemy better (showed the Islamic facsist side) the 'Sept 10' group might get it.
The 'Sept 10' group still thinks it is about poverty, it isn't. They think it is about "Palestine", it isn't. Television and movies can drive home that small message. The 'Sept 11' message that we are all at risk, will come later.
Posted by: Buck at September 3, 2004 10:36 AM
Next week be sure to watch "Dinner with Jeffery Dahmer: The Misunderstood Gourmand".
Posted by: Whistling Dixie at September 3, 2004 10:41 AM
Hehe, good one Whistling Dixie. And perhaps we can also look forward to "Charles Manson: Tragically Frustrated Pop Star" and "Joseph Mengele: Medical Man With a Mission." And how about, "John Wayne Gacy: Sad Clown."
Posted by: Suzan at September 3, 2004 11:44 AM
JTF:
Although they prefer not to dispatch other muslims in general, jihad reasoning dictates that it's OK if muslims also die as a result of the jihadis' efforts, as their deaths are considered part of "allah's" plan, and that those killed contribute toward the great cause and will go to their just reward.
A fitting sacrifice to the demon-god allah from his blood-cult followers.
Posted by: CGW at September 3, 2004 12:20 PM
CGW,
Indeed, and it is odd, how even objections to the killing of Muslims in Jihad (9/11, Nigeria) can be swept under the rug, after a little protest perhaps.
And then it happens again...And, "I am shocked..."
But that is the texture of the Koran, isn't it? Wave after wave of threats and promises...violence, killing, strategies of war, unshakable rules, the then more threats and promises. And the message that resonants throughout: do not fear death. Fear nonbelief. Fear Allah. Surrender to his ways.
And so death is easy to forget for a believer of the Koran. The 'shock' does not endure. Death should be welcomed with open arms; and if death comes in an action that serves Allah, death is glorious. So, forget death. It is not an evil.
And as I speak, the deaths, the murders, of over a hundred children in Russia is being forgotten. Or was there a trace of memory of them in the first place?
Posted by: JTF at September 3, 2004 12:47 PM
The human side of jihadists... ...more like the inhumane side of jihadists, who are probably as disturbed as the pair from Columnbine.
It becomes more and more apparent about news services and media production companies -- if they can sell it, they'll make it, no matter what drivel they sell.
And funny isn't it, how jihadists happily put it down to "Allah's will" for successful "operations" but couldn't conceive that all of the misery and poverty endured by their co-religionists may also Allah's will (as exercised through the despots that govern them) or that the successes of the "other" just may be Allah's will?
Posted by: waterdragon52 at September 3, 2004 12:54 PM
The docudrama was very good - hope it gets shown outside the UK. This 'human side' thing is a bit misleading - the programme was in no way sympathetic to the hijackers. It did, however, show how someone from a middle class, westernised background could become a Jihadi.
A striking feature was the absence of women- the segregation of the sexes is one of the main things that has been detremental to Islamic 'civilisation'.
Posted by: Interestd at September 3, 2004 2:41 PM
It's starting to look like the perfect time
to hold "Infidel" rally's with Quran burning and
bacon sandwiches and some tossing around of the Pigskin footballs.
I have watched Arab and Palestinian protestors
burn American and Israeli flags,spit at the police
that were there to keep the peace,wear mask and throw garbage at Government offices and Embassy's.
For too lonf now middle east hoodlums have abused the freedoms and liberties of Western
Nations,Islam does not mean Peace,the goal is global domination and the slaughtering of every Christian and Jew.
The sooner the West catches on the better chance
we have for survival,shariah law is about to be accepted in Canada and the Hijab issue was pushed by CAIR with a subtle threat that now looks close to a terrorist tactic. The silence from the "Good Muslims" speaks volumes about where their loyalty
lies,how many more Mosques must be exposed for terrorist funding befor the truth about Islam gets accepted.
In Canada there have been bogus vandalism claims
by CAIR and other Muslim groups,since 9/11/01 CAIR claims there have been about 14 hate-crime
attacks against Mosques or Muslims.
So far I haven't seen one arrest or solid proof
of who may have done it,CAIR is quick to label it "Islamophobia" even though the identity of the
vandal hasn't been discovered.
They want us dead,Muhammed wants us dead,and Allah blesses the Jihadists that murdered the children in the Russian school. So you figure it out,would God bless you for killing his children
and abusing females,no,Satan would,but not the
true spirit of God that can dwell in our hearts and see all people as brothers and sisters by having the same father.
The Quran needs to be banned befor it poisons any more children or gets the status of a actual
religion.
NO ISLAM - KNOW PEACE
Posted by: ala-sux at September 3, 2004 4:18 PM
Suzan, I can see you have a flair for this.
"Evita Peron: Fun Lovin' Gal With A Song In Her Heart" is on the schedule for spring.
"Ted Bundy: The Man Who Loved Women Too Much" is currently being optioned.
Posted by: Whistling Dixie at September 3, 2004 4:21 PM
Hitler had a human side? Well, he ate and slept. That's human. Anything else? I thought not.
As for the jihadists. They emulate the fiendish Hitler. Thus, they also do not have a human side.
Posted by: epg at September 3, 2004 5:11 PM
First off - What Limmy Bastage decided to do this film???
Is he an asshole??
Let me guess - No he is a leftist Politically Correct, anti-semite, apoligist that couldn't get 2 blocks away from his mothers teat.
BINGO - I WIN!!!!!!!
How about an American film producer making a movie about the IRA human side????
Never thought of that did ya!!!!
Who in their right mind would justify humanizing things are not human??????
A bloody Limmy asshole with too much time on his hands, that is WHO!!!!
Creatures that take the lives of people, men women and children are not human. Don't try showing me their human side - If they had one they would live normal lives. Not some bullsh-t dream of a world dominated by people that worship a Pedophile and murderous thief.
Oh my god - I broke the British law of saying something bad about a religion.
HEY - Tell the Queen to wake the F-CK UP!!!!!!
Look at what your Kingdom is becoming.
Moooooslims can celebrate in London Sept. 11 2001 free and clear, Moooooslims can preach hate against Jews. I am not Jewish, but you all on that side of the sea better realize this one thing.
Isreal was attacked by three Arab nations at one time and fought them off and even took those arabs land. I think I would like them on my side not the losers. Hell You people couldn't even fight off the Germans and Vichy fRench on your own without Our help!
Think about that slap in the face that movie is!!!
at September 4, 2004 11:03 PM
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