Ahmed engaged in taqiyya for he knows that the Scandanavians are very tolerant. What the Scandanavians seem not to understand is that Ahmed and his cohorts are not tolerant of their famous free and easy lifestyle. Unfortunately, at this rate, they will find out very quickly, to their detriment.

Posted by: epg at September 9, 2004 7:36 PM

The 12th September is the day when King Jan Sobieski defeated the Turks at the Battle of Vienna. Please have a drink to celebrate.

Posted by: Voltaire at September 9, 2004 8:28 PM

"A good Muslim is a peaceful Muslim." "And one should meet other people with a smile." Yes, indeed, when those Infidels rain queries upon you, and you cannot answer truthfully, let a smile be your umbrella.

One feels in reading this and a thousand similar stories about transparent taqiyya/kitman play, like borrowing both the voice, and inflection, of Steve Martin. You remember the unforgettable scene, in "Dirty Rotten Scoundrels," in which as the "younger brother" Rupprecht, and Michael Caine as his his "older brother," Martin and Caine, the two con men on the Riviera (waiting for their comeuppance from the divine Glenn Headly) manage to repel, with the younger brother's behavior, a too-aggressive female suitor/mark of the latter. More than once Rupprecht declares:

Oh, really?

That's what one wishes to say. Oh, really?

Posted by: Hugh at September 9, 2004 9:21 PM

Well, here's more dhimmitude from India this time.

Census records recently released show that the muslim population in that country has been ballooning at a record 35% every 10 years, the higghest for any religion in India. This has predictable potential for tensions with the majority Hindun majority who have managed to lower their birthrates and raise their education-income level.

http://in.rediff.com/news/2004/sep/09census.htm

Posted by: voletti at September 9, 2004 11:17 PM

There is a consistent logic here, for those who know the tricks, as many here do: no homosexual is innocent (nor any Infidel, who by definition has rejected the call to Islam).

Smiling at human beings honors Allah, especially when it is in the service of Allah, as a device to disguise Jihad on Infidels to spread the faith. Allah will no doubt reward such clever Muslims, who fool such sick Infidels, i.e those Infidels who wish to contradict the faith by advocating rights for unclean kuffar like homosexuals.

So keep on smiling..."Oh really?"

Killing innocent people with terror would entail killing Muslims with terror, but those who wage war against Islam or reject Islam, or who are unclear, these folks are not innocent.

Finally..."I choose not to answer whether it is right or wrong to kill homosexuals. That is my right as a human being"

There is a slip here. Does he assert his right not to answer? That is absurd, because then he would assert the right not to answer a question but leave open the live possibility that one has the right to kill homosexuals.

How about this: "I can tell you I have the right to vote, but I decline comment on my right to assassinate the candidates"...This is absolutely absurd. Come on folks.

There is a slip here. He must obviously mean something else on some demented level of thought. He chooses not to answer, but he claims his right as a human being to kill homosexuals. This is consistent with Islamic principles, and the ambiguity of 'that' makes everything he says coherent in a perverted sort of way.

So, bravo Qazi Hussain Ahmed! At least your practice of taqiyya is consistent applying principles of Islamic thought and assumptions of taqiyya. Ramadan, on the other hand, is incoherent...

But hey, Ramadan is getting rich and famous and Qazi Hussain Ahmed gets a visa to speak with Muslim students in Norway, as if he had something enlightening to say.

Really...

Posted by: JTF at September 10, 2004 2:15 AM

One last thought, I hope.

Since Europe generally seems so keen on allowing Islam to spread regardless of the depths of barbarity, murderous intent, dehumanizing thought...

Why doesn't the EU save us all some time and just refurbish Auschwitz so that the camp can function again?

And who will go into the fires first? Jews, of course. But they are already gone (murdered, moved away) or certainly will be by the time the camp is up and running. And, Jews might even find saftey in the US or behind the massive nuclear Isreali firewall that no Muslim country will dare tempt, we hope.

So, who goes first? The unclean kuffar...and who are they? Just about everybody who won't allow themselves to be converted or enslaved. The new Auschwitz will get to the general population rather quickly, it seems to me, and probably start with uppity 'Swedish whores' (just about any Sweidish girl in the context of Islam) and homosexuals who refuse the whip: those folks who most offend Islamic sensiblilities.

So, why don't you rebuild Auschwitz EU? That is where you are going. Why not save some time and trouble? Get right to it.

Or if you really find that unacceptable, stand up and fight!

Posted by: JTF at September 10, 2004 2:42 AM

Can Islam change?

Ziauddin Sardar's Desperately Seeking Paradise: journeys of a sceptical Muslim is published by Granta Books (£16.99)

http://www.newstatesman.com/nscoverstory.htm

Posted by: Doctor Phibes at September 10, 2004 4:48 AM

Evidently Qazi Hussain Ahmed has never read the works of Abu Nuwas...

Biography: Abu Nuwas
Credited as one of the most acclaimed and influential poets in Arabic, Abu Nuwas (Abu Nuwas al-Hasan ibn Hani al-Hakami) spent most of his life in Baghdad. He was said to have been a submissive sex partner to his teacher, master poet Waliba ibn al-Hubab.He enjoyed the practice of pederasty, rarely showing interest in women or older men. He helped to put forward as a genre of Arabic literature love poetry written to young boys. His prominence is often cited as proof that Arab culture has been relatively tolerant of same-sex love between men and young men, despite Islamic law.

Perfumed Garden" by Abu Nuwas:

O the joy of sodomy!
So now be sodomites, you Arabs.
Turn not away from it--
therein is wondrous pleasure.

Take some coy lad with kiss-curls
twisting on his temple
and ride as he stands like some gazelle
standing to her mate.

A lad whom all can see girt with sword
and belt not like your whore who has
to go veiled.

Make for smooth-faced boys and do your
very best to mount them, for women are
the mounts of the devils

Posted by: Son of Infidel at September 10, 2004 4:53 AM

The previous post might explain why Arab men only wear that long night shirt...

Posted by: Son of Infidel at September 10, 2004 4:56 AM

Hugh - A stroke of genuis!!!! The vision of Steven Martin as Rupert comes very clearly to mind. What a great comparison! Thank you for giving us "a visual" that can be used for those individuals that are not intellectual and could not possibly study the appropriate materials to quickly learn about how Muslims fool non-Muslims.

Posted by: epg at September 10, 2004 5:31 AM

http://pub.tv2.no/nettavisen/english/article276929.ece

Norwegians know little about Islam

Posted by: Ali Dashti at September 10, 2004 6:01 AM