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Long ago I wrote that the headscarf ban was wrongheaded, as it was a cosmetic thing and not a confrontation of the forces that wish to remake French society. It looks as if I was wrong, and that the ban itself is becoming the spark of that very confrontation. From AFP, with thanks to Teri, Ali Dashti and Anthony:
PARIS, Sept 13 (AFP) - A Muslim policewoman in Paris has annoyed her superiors and stoked a national debate in France over Islamic headscarves after refusing to take off her own head covering on religious grounds, a police union said Monday.The woman, a traffic officer identified only as Nora C., refused an order given August 25 to take off a small headscarf that she wears under her uniform cap, the union said, confirming a report in a news magazine, L'Express.
She reiterated her stance the next day when she met another superior officer, whose hand she declined to shake, the union, Synergie, said.
The union added that the woman, who is divorced with two children, was currently off work on medical leave.
The incident focused attention back on a controversial new law in France banning Islamic headscarves and other religious insignia in state schools in a bid to uphold the country's strict secularity.
Posted by Robert at September 14, 2004 9:22 AM
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Just fire her!
Posted by: Voltaire![[TypeKey Profile Page]](http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/nav-commenters.gif)
at September 14, 2004 9:48 AM
Aah, some minor incidents snowball into big stuff, eh? The assasination of the archduke ferdinand in Sarajevo started WWI. Maybe this Scarf issue will start WWIV?
Posted by: voletti at September 14, 2004 11:48 AM
The hijab issue, and the usual guff about "we want to wear the hijab" and "we are freer than Western women" and all the rest of it, is nicely exposed by Azam Kamguian at www.faithfreedom.org. A very complete essay on the Islamic roots of the mistreatment of women --despite the backtracking by certain well-known Islamic "feminists" to ascribe the problems of women in the Islamic world to everything but Islam (Fatimia Mernissi comes to mind), is that published by Reza Afshari in 1994. "Egalitarian Islam and Misogynist Islamic Tradition: A Crtique of the Feminist Reinterpretation of Islamic History and Heritage" deals conclusively with that nonsense; of course, any female Iranian exile knows just what nonsense it is already, but it is the silly Westerners listening to apologists who need to be informed.
Ataturk did not allow the Turkish government to employ women wearing the hijab. There may be a similar regulation elsewhere -- for example in Tunisia, or possibly in one of the Central Asian "Muslim" countries. France does not need an Islamic model to justify its ban; it is, after all, not a Muslim country, was not formed by Islam, owes none of what makes it France, or what makes it France at its best, to Islam but rather in spite of Islam (no matter what Jacques Chirac says about "Europe owing as much to Islam as it does to Christianity" -- the statement of a fool and a quisling). But for those who nonetheless want to invoke some Muslim state's precedent, one can surely be found. She can find another job, possibly even in another country.
Posted by: Hugh at September 14, 2004 12:39 PM
Then fire this muzzie police woman!
Posted by: Ummagumma at September 14, 2004 1:02 PM
The woman, a traffic officer identified only as Nora C.
Doesn't sound like a name that is common in Muslim countries. Probably another Western convert who doesn't have a clue what she has gotten herself into. Just wait until she wants a divorce, if she survives the beatings of course.
Posted by: Hulegu Khan at September 14, 2004 2:45 PM
Not a religious requirement, hijab is a political symbol that is forced upon non-Muslim countries as one of the first of many steps of a separist movement, the implementation of Sharia, and then the overrunning of the host society. Hijab is a dangerous precedent that must not be allowed.
Posted by: epg at September 14, 2004 4:11 PM
The French hijab ban is really hitting where it hurts most; ie at the Islamic control of the minds of young Muslim girls. That is why there is so much Islamic anger throughout the world with France.
It is ironic that the greatest opposition to this ban is coming from Muslim women. Perhaps women are frightened that it may upset their position in Islamic society. It is very strange.
at September 14, 2004 4:26 PM
The French hijab ban is really hitting where it hurts most; ie at the Islamic control of the minds of young Muslim girls. That is why there is so much Islamic anger throughout the world with France.
It is ironic that the greatest opposition to this ban is coming from Muslim women. Perhaps women are frightened that it may upset their position in Islamic society. It is very strange.
at September 14, 2004 4:27 PM
It's not only that she wouldn't remove her headscarf but also that she refused to shake hands with a superior, humiliating him (or was it her). I think that the handshake refusal is the more important of the two problems. Clothes, especially if discreet, can be ignored. Gestures such as refusing to shake hands can't be.
Posted by: TM Lutas at September 14, 2004 5:37 PM
If she is fired then Nora C [now this isn't a French or Muslim handle] will become a 'martyr for the cause'.[Hijabs]. Will also have to go on Social Welfare Benefits. Would like to know where hubby is in all this? Has he taken off with a new
wife and is fathering more little Muslims...
at September 14, 2004 7:02 PM
If she leaves the job just wait and see the uproar if she applies to be a firefighter and
won't work with men or take off the Hijab.
I have yet to see any proof the Hijab is mentioned in the Quran as mandatory dress for
female Muslims.
As for the handshake,I don't doubt she refused
to touch a man's hand.
During the Canadian Federal Election a Muslim
female was running and she wore the Hijab to show her faith,at first I was shocked to see her run since her husband was currently suing the Canadian Government for about 400 Million dollars
because he was tortured in Syria after being deported from N.Y. ,but during a news clip when her party was holding a meeting with the leader of the pary she refused to shake the hand of the Male leader.
She was in a line of party members and right there on TV I saw it and thought is was so rude to do this on National TV.
What the hell does she think will happen if she does get in a position of power,will everyone around her be forced to practise Islam by proxy just to avoid offending her faith.
at September 14, 2004 7:52 PM
You mean female muslims are not allowed to shake the hands of a man?
Posted by: Voltaire at September 14, 2004 8:46 PM
Was the handshake not given because he was a man, or because he was, as an Infidel, "unclean" or "najis," to use the term the Ayatollah Sistani favors. All Infidels are "najis," along with blood, excrement, and things like that. Not pleasant to be thought of in that way -- now is it?
Posted by: Hugh at September 14, 2004 9:53 PM
I just looked up handshaking and Muslims on the Net and one site had a ruling on it - manhaj.com and it said a woman can't shake hands with a man who is not mahram, whatever that means. I wouldn't be surprised if they were forbidden to shake hands. Their whole belief system is so bizarre when it comes to men-women socializing and interacting. Men are slobbering rapists with no self control and women are walking genitals with no self control either. Shake hands with the opposite sex, and whoa!
While searching I came upon an article that said men in Khartoum were complaining that after shaking hands with foreigners their penises shriveled or even dropped off!
Posted by: feralee at September 14, 2004 10:22 PM
Actually, to show muslims how effective the hijab is at making women invisible, that traffic cop should be run over. Oops.
I've gotten to the point where whenever I see the Grim Reaper brigades out in public, I ignore them. I'm aware of their presence (and they are multiplying in my outpost) but I don't acknowledge them.
Don't want to shake my hand, muzzie? That's okay by me. You didn't really think I was "pleased to meet you?" Frankly, I'm not interested in seeing you at all.
Posted by: 3812Michelle at September 14, 2004 10:36 PM
LOL! michelle - Grim Reaper Brigade. The other term I like is "walking letterboxes".
It's not about modesty, it's about making a political statement. We're Muslim, we're here, we're in your face and there will be more of us soon!
You see a woman veiled, she stands out. If she's so worried about being noticed, she should dress like everyone else, blend in and nobody would care. The other day I saw a young girl in jeans and a top like many young girls wear. Wouldn't have noticed her except for the big scarf that covered her head and shoulders. I just couldn't see the point. If it's about modesty, why the jeans that outline your figure? Why the top that shows your curves? What's the point of covering your hair? What idiot gets riled up over a woman's hair?
So in the case of this Frenchwoman - she's got a "small headscarf" which she wears under her cap - again, what's the point? Modesty? Or political statement? I'm a Muslim! she is saying. She's a police officer - that should be her main focus, her only statement to the public when she is in that sort of position.
Posted by: feralee at September 14, 2004 10:49 PM
Warning to Western Caucasians:
Caucasians are having fewer children, part of the reason has to do with money, career, or other distractions, but the other part is due to the easy availability of abortion. Since having children has now become a matter of convenience, it is too easy to find excuses; it is never really the ‘best time.’ All other races are multiplying at far higher rates. Yes, this includes Arabs & other tribes.
at September 15, 2004 1:19 AM
why should she not have right to wear what she wants, president Bush said that Freedom is a right given to people from GOD. None of us can take it away.
Posted by: Fangshoe at September 15, 2004 2:12 PM
non muslim free to wear what he or she likes, why not for muslims, western female can wear even just a short pant and bra in public why not a muslim female to wear hijab. i hope all of us no to be double standard
at September 17, 2004 4:03 AM
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