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September 21, 2004

The situation in Sweden

Recently I posted a series of translations from Swedish papers, made for Jihad Watch by Ali Dashti, about the situation in Malmø. The story got a great deal of attention, as none of it was reported by the media elite. However, I was contacted yesterday by a woman who told me that a Swedish speaker had questioned the veracity of Ali Dashti's translations.

As it turns out, they were more summaries than word-by-word translations — I didn't know this at the time I posted them, and I apologize for any misapprehension. However, Ali Dashti is not in the least ready to join the "fake, but accurate" ranks, and brings forward a mountain of new evidence to support the original posting. Here is his reply to the questioner:

I am happy somebody took an interest in what I was telling about Malmø, or Sweden in general. And I hope people write much more about it. I read in Swedish newspapers on a daily basis what is going on in Malmø. I also have friends living there, and people I know who recently left because of the situation. As was quoted in one of my articles, the emigration from the city is higher than it has ever been for several decades. Many of the people who leave state the lack of security as their main reason for leaving.

As for the articles I linked to, what I wrote was quotes from the articles as well as my comments after reading perhaps hundreds of stories like these in Swedish. I apologize for not stating that clearly enough, and I will never do that again. That being said, there is absolutely NOTHING wrong with my description of the situation in Malmø. In fact, I probably understated it. Here is an article in Swedish from one of Sweden’s largest national newspapers, called “Malmø, 24 days in August”. It is a very long and scary list of stabbings, armed robbery, vandalism and pretty much any kind of crime and violence you can think of. The reason why this very politically correct newspaper wrote this article in the first place is because the situation is now so bad that it cannot be ignored any longer:

http://www.expressen.se/expressen/jsp/polopoly.jsp?a=181406Malmö, 24 dagar i augusti

Even though Malmø is the worst example, you will see the same trends in other major Swedish cities, too. Only a couple of days ago, city buses in a suburb of Stockhom had to be cancelled and rerouted, as three windows were smashed by rock throwing. As this was not the first time this had happened, the bus company decided they quite simply could not drive in this area anymore.

http://www.sr.se/cgi-bin/stockholm/nyheter/artikel.asp?artikel=473749

Busslinjer i Tensta dras in efter ny stenkastning

Trafikföretaget Connex har fått nog av skadegörelse mot bussar i Tensta i nordvästra Stockholm. Nu dras flera busslinjer in i området, uppger Connex pressjour för Radio Stockholm.

Now, the article doesn’t state the ethnic origins of the perpetrators
(Swedish media rarely do), but this happens to be a neighbourhood with a lot of mainly Muslim immigrants. Throwing stones at buses hasn’t been that common in Sweden before. Two out of three new "Swedes" these days are immigrants, most of them Muslims:
http://www.spectator.se/stambord/index.php?p=97#comments

I attach a lot of links, most of them to major newspapers, and almost all of them in Swedish. This so that sceptical Swedish speaking people can see for themselves. I have more links if more is needed, but let us start with these. The majority are about the city of Malmø specifically, with some about Sweden in general at the end. I would also advice Scandinavian-speaking people to read some of the debates at the Swedish Muslim forum called http://www.sindbad.se/phpBB2/. It is scary, but
revealing.

As for the rape and gang rape situation, Swedish media have admitted that there has been a sharp increase in brutal rapes, including gang rapes, during recent years. They don’t state why, though. It may still not be as bad in Sweden as it is in Muslim ghettos in France, but the trend is the same:

http://www.iht.com/articles/114798.html

The phenomenon of gang rape in France has become banal. It occurs - how often is unknown - in the concrete wastelands built as cheap housing for immigrants on the outskirts of France's big cities. Here, according to sociologists and prosecutors, teenage boys, many of them loosely organized into gangs, prey on neighborhood girls. Many of the boys are raised in closed, traditional families and are hopelessly confused or ignorant about sex; others are simply street toughs. In this world, women enjoy little respect; often girls who appear weak, or who wear tight-fitting clothing or go out unaccompanied by their fathers or brothers are considered fair game. To avoid trouble, many girls of the projects have taken to wearing loose-fitting jogging clothes and hidden themselves behind domineering fathers or brothers; others have organized themselves into their own gangs. Many of the Muslim girls have donned head scarves - more for protection than out of religious conviction.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/05/13/60minutes/main617270.shtml

They rule gangland style, combined with the male-dominated traditions of the Arab countries they came from. It's gotten so bad that, today, most of the young women only feel safe if they are covered up, or if they stay at home. Girls who want to look just like other French girls are considered provocative, asking for trouble. “There was a trial in Lille where a 13-year-old girl was gang raped by 80 men. Sometimes, it’s 80, or 50 or 10. It’s absolutely terrible,” says
Bellil. “In the case of Argenteuil, it was horrible. A young woman was raped in a school. Of course, everybody knew, but they're so afraid of these young men that they prefer to close their eyes. That's the price of peace in the ghettos.” When the verdicts came down in this case, the courthouse turned into a madhouse. Eighteen teenagers were convicted of raping a 15-year-old girl over a two-month period. But what really shocked France was how the mothers of those boys reacted. "'You call this justice, seven years in prison for some oral sex,' says one mother. 'It's the girl who should be behind bars.'"

Again, I apologize for what may have been my clumsy presentation of these articles. The discription that was given of the situation was, however, 100% accurate. I stand by the information that was given. To my knowledge, Jihad Watch is the first English language news site that has ever mentioned the troubles in Malmø. I hope it won’t be the last.

Yours sincerely, Ali Dashti.

For the Swedish links, read on.

http://w1.sydsvenskan.se/Article.jsp?article=10070548

Rosengårds unga i konflikt med polisen
Av Ulrika Levander 2 januari 2004

Hjälp möts med stenar. Brandkåren avbryter släckningsarbetet vid hot och vaktbolagen höjer beredskapen.

MALMÖ. Efter att ha fått flaskor kastade mot sig från åttonde våningen och blivit utsatta för såväl stenkastning som spottloskor, fick Malmö brandkår nog när de attackerats med en slägga av ett ungdomsgäng i oktober.

Då höjdes röster för krav på poliseskort vid samtliga utryckningar i> Rosengård. Brandmännen är inte ensamma. Under hösten har stenkastande
ungdomsgäng också gett sig på parkeringsvakter, väktare, ambulanspersonal och poliser.

Som en konsekvens har flera myndigheter och företag skärpt sin säkerhet - både för att skydda sin egendom och sin personal. - Brandmännen är med rätta upprörda över vad som har hänt. Det är hemskt att utvecklingen har gått så långt att man ger sig på myndigheter som kommer för att hjälpa, säger Ken Henningson, brandchef på Malmö brandkår.

Vandaliseringen i stadsdelen i övrigt har också ökat drastiskt under
de senaste åren. Malmö stads fastighetsbolag, Stadsfastigheter, har
därför också beslutat sig för att stärka säkerheten.

- Vi har utökat bevakningen av skolorna med hjälp av väktare som går
ronder oftare, säger Bo Bremer, säkerhetssamordnare på Stadsfastigheter.

Kameraövervakning och särskilda stadsdelsvärdar som patrullerar
området finns på förslag.

Även lokaltrafikens bussar har drabbats av stenkastning och kör sedan
en tid inte längre in i bostadsområdet.

Närpolisen på Rosengård vill tona ner dramatiken.

- Ibland är stenkastningen en direkt hämnd för att vi har gripit
någon. I andra fall handlar det om en grupp av killar som inte riktigt är nöjda med att vi har fokuserat på dem. De vill visa vem som bestämmer, säger Mikael Davidsson, gruppchef för närpolisen.

http://w1.sydsvenskan.se/Article.jsp?article=10046819

Det bor mer än tjugotusen människor i Rosengård. De är mycket olika,
men många av dem har ett gemensamt problem: de lever utanför samhället
trots att de bor mitt i det.

Lars Åberg rapporterar från ett övergivet territorium i Malmö. Detta
är den första artikeln av tre.

På Ögårdsskolan, knuten till Islamic Center, har föräldrarna satt på
många av sina småflickor huvudduk. I föräldraföreningen sitter bara män.

Undervisningen i islamologi, som tar sina timmar från bland annat
musik och bild, syftar till att ge barnen ett ideologiskt fundament. En anställd berättar om den stora nyfikenhet på moskén i Malmö som svenskarna visar; föräldrarna här skulle däremot inte uppskatta om deras barn gjorde studiebesök i kyrkor.

Varför sätter man sina barn i friskola? För att skydda dem från det
skrämmande samhället utanför. För att stärka identiteten, det vill
säga reproduktionen av en bestämd självbild och ett givet system.

Vid besök i moskén har man kunnat få en liten introduktionsbok, "Islams principer", skriven av en pakistanier, Abul A'la Maududi, och översatt av en muslimsk studentgrupp i Lund. Av den framgår: "Mannen har givits positionen av familjens överhuvud. Ingen inrättning kan fungera friktionsfritt om den inte har en chefsadministratör ? Kvinnorna har beordrats att stanna i sina
hem och utföra de plikter som ålagts dem ? När kvinnor måste gå ut ur
sina hem ska de klä sig enkelt och vara korrekt beslöjade."

Om integration säger "Islams principer":

"Kulturell efterapning av andra har mycket katastrofala konsekvenser
för nationen; den förstör dess inre vitalitet, fördunklar dess syn,
insveper dess kritiska förmåga i dimmor, fostrar mindervärdeskomplex och utarmar gradvis men säkert kulturen. Det är därför som den Helige Profeten (frid över honom) uttryckligen och med kraft har förbjudit muslimerna att anta icke-muslimers kultur och livsstil."

http://w1.sydsvenskan.se/Article.jsp?article=10046811

När föräldrar slår sina barn med galgar eller dammsugarslangar är det
inte alltid vredesutbrott; våld är också uppfostringsmetod. Hur ska jag få dem att lyda, är en vanlig fråga i föräldrasamtal och på
barnavårdscentraler.

Integration, det som alla säger sig bejaka men inte alla vill ha,
förutsätter arbete och språkkunskaper. Detta är en stad för sig.
Massor av barn härifrån har aldrig varit på bio. De har inte tagit bussen till centrum. Deras föräldrar har inte låtit dem åka skridsko på Lilla Torg. De vet inte att Lilla Torg finns.

http://w1.sydsvenskan.se/Article.jsp?article=10047861

De allra flesta vuxna i Herrgården arbetar inte. Många barn har
ingenstans att sitta med sina läxor. Det förekommer att familjer som får två lägenheter av socialen fyller den ena med släktingar och tillresta och tränger ihop sig i den andra, med barnen travade på madrasser och kläderna i lådor på balkongen.

Herrgården har tillåtits bli ett trix-å-fix-å-vara-ifred-näste dit
människor från hela stan har farit för att köpa brass och stulna skinnjackor.

Knark-och sprithandeln har skett öppet. Folk lever på bidrag och svartjobb; kombineras dessa blir inkomsten högre än vid vanligt lönearbete.

Området försörjs av omgivningen och utgör alltså något så udda som en
offentligt finansierad autonomi. Ändå hör man sällan någon opinionsbildare säga att detta Malmös Christiania bör stängas. Här gömmer sig folk utan uppehållstillstånd. I källarna sover hemlösa. Och över allt, mitt i detta, alla dessa barn; i vissa trappuppgångar runt sextio.

http://www.dn.se/DNet/jsp/polopoly.jsp?d=147&a=247830

Här är inte så illa som det beskrivs i tidningarna. Det är det första
Gjon Tuqaj säger. Men det är inte sant. Läget är mycket, mycket värre och varken stadsdelens polis, socialchef, skolor eller tjänstemän ser någon ljusning.

Rosengårdsskolan ligger i Herrgården, det fattigaste av stadsdelens
sex delområden. I stort sett samtliga invånare har utländsk bakgrund och mindre än tio procent av de vuxna har ett arbete. Söder om Herrgården ligger Västra Kattarp där Rosengårds småhus finns. Här har 55 procent av invånarna utländsk bakgrund och 63 procent har jobb.

I måndags blev en synskadad kvinna bestulen på sin handväska i
Rosengård. När hon skulle låsa upp sin port överfölls hon bakifrån och tappade taget om rullatorn. Hon föll till marken och rånarna ryckte till sig hennes väska med 2 000 kronor i. Enligt vittnen till händelsen var två av förövarna tio till tolv år gamla, en tretton och två fjorton år.

Förra året anmäldes 292 fall av väskryckningar i Malmö. Polisen har
namn på 29 misstänkta gärningsmän. - Jag tror att 80 procent av dem har utomnordiskt ursprung, säger Thomas Anderberg, chef för Malmös
kriminalunderrättelsetjänst. - Brottsligheten är inte så hög i Rosengård rent statistiskt, säger närpolischefen Fredrik Andersson. Våra ungdomar begår de flesta brotten på andra ställen i staden

När polisen annars rycker ut till Rosengård sker det i två patruller.
Den ena får stanna kvar på gatan och vakta bilarna medan den andra går in på larmet.

Stadsdelsvärden Gjon Tuqaj berättar: - En polis som jag känner sa
till oss:

"Ni har det bra som kan gå rätt in i ett gäng med 30 ungdomar och
prata med dem. Vi måste alltid komma i två bilar." Allt som går i uniform riskerar att attackeras i Rosengård.

Vad tror närpolischefen Fredrik Andersson om framtiden? - Även om jag
är positiv till min läggning så tycker jag att framtiden ser mörk ut.
Man pratar om integration, men Rosengård är en ökande segregation. Något radikalt måste ske för att bryta trenden. Annars kommer vi aldrig till rätta med problemen.

http://www.berlingske.dk/indland/artikel:aid=478960/

I tirsdags kunne man på TV se et godt eksempel på, hvordan svenske
politikere tænker om udlændingespørgsmålet. Den svenske integrationsminister Mona Sahlin (S) var gæst i svensk TV1, som sendte direkte fra indvandrerghettoen Rosengård i Malmø. TV-stationen satte fokus på en bydel, hvor mange beboere aldrig taler svensk endsige har truffet en etnisk svensker. I irritation over programmets præmis vendte Mona Sahlin sagen på hovedet for åben skærm og spurgte: »Hvorfor siger vi ikke i stedet, at det er et problem, at der er folk, som har boet hele livet i Sverige og aldrig været i Rosengård?«

I Malmø har mere end 40 procent af byens indbyggere en anden baggrund
end svensk. Kommunens socialdemokratiske borgmester, Ilmar Reepalu, var tidligere på året ellers ude med skrappe krav om et indvandrerstop
for byen.

Men det er han ikke længere. Nu er der ingen øvre grænse for
indvandringen, mener han. Malmø tager gerne flere flygtninge, bare man får at vide, hvor mange der kommer, så man kan tage højde for det i planlægningen.

»Generelt har vi intet imod, at der kommer indvandrere til Malmø. Vi
behøver jo mere arbejdskraft de næste 10 til 15 år. Men det vigtigste er, at vi giver de nye en god introduktion til samfundet, og at de lærer sproget og kommer i arbejde,« siger Ilmar Reepalu.

Men den officielle statistik er ikke med borgmesterens idealbillede.
I Sverige er 44,8 procent af de ikke-vestlige indvandrere helt uden for arbejdsmarkedet. Danmark ligger kun lidt dårligere med 49 procent
helt uden for arbejdsstyrken.

Og tallene er endnu værre, når man bevæger sig ud i virkeligheden.
Det mener den svenske forsker, socialantropolog Aje Carlbom fra Lunds
Universitet. Han flyttede sammen med sin kone ind i Rosengård i tre år for at studere ghettoen. Det kom der en doktordisputats ud af, og den punkterer effektivt myten om Sverige som det multikulturelle land, hvor integrationen fungerer.

I Rosengård eksisterer der en kløft mellem arabiske og somaliske
befolkningsgrupper på den ene side, der isolerer sig fra det øvrige
svenske samfund, og en svensk underklasse på den anden side, som følger sig forrådt af den svenske elite. Og den kløft vokser.

Hos Moderaterne, der er de Konservatives svenske søsterparti,
erkender integrationsordfører Per Westerberg, at indvandrerspørgsmål bliver dysset en del ned - også blandt borgerlige.

»I dag er det jo kun pensionisterne, som støtter de åbenlyst
fremmedfjendtlige holdninger. De unge har for længe siden vænnet sig
til det mulitikulturelle samfund,« siger Malmøs borgmester, Ilmar Reepalu.

Noget indikerer dog, at ikke alle svenskere er enige. I februar
spurgte avisen Sydsvenskan i Malmø sine læsere, om Danmark var gået for langt i sin indvandringspolitik. Mere end 2.000 svarede, og af dem sagde otte ud af ti:

Nej. En rapport fra Gøteborgs Universitet for to år siden peger i
samme retning.

»Mange er bekymrede, men det er ikke noget, man siger offentligt i
Sverige,« lyder det fra forskeren Aje Carlbom.

http://w1.sydsvenskan.se//Article.jsp?article=10079070

Den senaste veckan har varit konfliktfylld även i andra delar av
Rosengård. Som Sydsvenskan tidigare rapporterat utsattes i tisdags kväll en väktarbil som bevakade Rosengårds närpolisstation för stenkastning. Bilen fick allvarliga skador och en väktare hade änglavakt när en kastad gatstenen träffade nackstödet på hans bilstol.

http://w1.sydsvenskan.se//Article.jsp?article=10090550

Oron växer för en stor konflikt mellan albaner och araber på
Rosengård efter helgens knivmord på von Rosens väg. Under tisdagseftermiddagen träffades representanter från islamiska kulturhuset och den albanska fotbollsklubben Shkëndia för att mäkla fred.

Även Hidajete Dakaj, som såg hela bråket och det dödande knivhugget
från sin balkong, har hört och sett ungdomar som provocerar de sörjande genom att spela hög musik. Men Dakaj klandrar främst ambulansförarna och polisen för att knivdramat ledde till döden. Redan när bråket började, långt innan kniven kom fram, ringde Dakaj till polisen. Men polis och ambulans ryckte inte ut förrän långt senare, när Sedat Hahxiu låg blödande på marken. Sedan stod ambulansen och väntade på poliseskort i minst sju dyrbara minuter,
innan den körde ända fram till mordplatsen. - Om vi hade bott någon
annanstans i stan är jag säker på att polisen hade kommit mycket
fortare, och att ambulansen hade kört ända fram. Jag ska flytta från Rosengård så fort jag kan, säger Hidajete Dakaj.

http://w1.sydsvenskan.se//Article.jsp?article=10091227

På onsdagen begravdes albanen Sedat Haxhiu i sin hemstad Mitrovica i
Kosovo. Han knivhöggs till döds i Rosengård förra lördagen när han försökte ingripa i ett gräl mellan några arabiska och albanska ungdomar.

http://www.aftonbladet.se/vss/nyheter/story/0,2789,515222,00.html

Våldet ökar i Malmö

De grova våldsbrotten i Malmö blir allt råare, grövre - och fler. Ökningen är tio gånger större än i Stockholm. De senaste sex åren har antalet anmälda våldtäkter, misshandelsfall, mord och dråp ökat med 21,7 procent i Skåne län. Motsvarande siffra för Stockholms län är 1,7 procent.

- Det har blivit fördjävligt i stan, säger Lars-Göran Karlströmer,
60, poliskommissarie i Malmö.

- Det finns mer vapen i omlopp och så ser vi att ungdomsbrottsligheten ökar. Det är en farlig tendens som har med utanförskap att göra, säger Lars Förstell, informationsdirektör vid polisen i Skåne län.

There is much more, but I have run out of time. Contact me if you would like to see it.

Posted by Robert at September 21, 2004 6:44 AM
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One day rapists won't go to jail because the rapists will be muslim.

Posted by: Voltaire [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 21, 2004 7:59 AM

Again, I made an unwise decision in the way these articles were presented earlier. I apologize for that. The mistake was mine entirely, not Mr. Spencer's. If I ever make translations of other Scandinavian language articles again, I will quote the exact parts of the text in "Scandinavian" first, and then translate word by word into English. That way, Scandinavians here can verify my translation.

That being said, there is NOTHING wrong with the actual description of the situation in Malmø in what I wrote. The only reason people haven't seen this talked about before is because Politically Correct Swedish media have been reluctant to discuss it. If anything, it is even worse than this, and you can see the same trends in all major Swedish and Scandinavian cities these days, not just in Malmø. Take these quotes from a Norwegian newspaper today:

http://pub.tv2.no/nettavisen/english/article281280.ece

Players threatened to decapitate and rape

One player was knocked down, and several members of the audience were threatened with decapitation and rape when several of the players in the 7.division game flew of the handle. «These are threats of aggravated violence and we don’t want anything like this on the soccer filed,» Bruun-Hanssen said to TV 2 Nettavisen. «I haven’t either heard to anything like this before.» However, he does not want to condemn the entire team which mainly consist of immigrants.

«Most of the people on the team are there to get a positive experience and to play soccer,» Bruun-Hanssen said. «Now Djerv has to present its view of the case, and then we have to evaluate possible sanctions against players and the club afterwards. But at the same time as it is important to send a clear message, we are also forced to try to aid Djerv as a club so that they can incorporate persons with multicultural background into the club in the most sensible way.»

http://www.aftenposten.no/english/sports/article875219.ece

The Hetlevik goalkeeper was chased home, and three girls, the youngest aged 11, were subjected to crude sexual insults from some of the Djerv players. Some spectators were threatened with rape. Local football authorities have had some trouble with Djerv 2 before and said the team of Kurdish players might not be allowed to play the two final games of the season.

In the city of Copenhagen, Denmark, there is an area called “Nørrebro” which is pretty similar to Malmø. In this Danish article, parking inspectors tell that they no longer can patrol in this area, after repeated assaults. Basically, any person wearing any kind of “official” uniform in this area is at risk, even ambulance drivers. Some Muslims have unofficially declared Nørrebro to be an “Islamic state”, where Muslims can have “their women in peace”:

http://www.berlingske.dk/kobenhavn/artikel:aid=484572/

Parkeringsvagter tør ikke gå på Nørrebro


http://www.cphpost.dk/get/81083.html

Young immigrants represent an ever-increasing segment of the nation's juvenile delinquents. Meanwhile, violent crimes throughout Copenhagen are on the rise

City police are concerned about the rising incidence of immigrant teens wielding knives - and using them. Children of immigrant families are dominating the capital city crime scene like never before, representing an increasing segment of arrests for violent crime, even as crime rates for their Danish-born peers are on the decline.

Larsen spoke with Jyllands-Posten after the release of pessimistic figures from Copenhagen Municipal Court. In the first seven months of the year, 63 juveniles were arraigned on charges stemming from violent crimes. 53 of these youngsters came from immigrant families, while just 10 were Danish born. The latest arrest figures represent the highest crime rate for immigrant youth in five years, and the lowest rate for native Danes. According to Larsen, immigrant teenagers are typically arrested on assault and robbery charges, and these crimes increasingly involve the use of knives.

"We've gone back to the way things were around the year 2000, when the problem was serious. Young immigrant gangs have a much higher profile. And they're not just limited to parts of Nørrebro or the inner city late at night on the weekends - they're present wherever large groups of people gather, and gang members are increasingly quick to pull a knife in these situations," said Larsen.

Copenhageners have been shocked by a number of brutal stabbings over the past year involving immigrant teenagers. First came the killing of Italian tourist Antonio Currá, who was knifed down in Nørrebro last August. Two young immigrants will stand trial for Currà's killing in two months' time.

Last month, a 21-year-old bystander became inadvertently involved in a fight in front of Vestergade discotheque Woodstock, and was stabbed in the heart by a 19-year-old youth of non-Danish ethnicity. Ten days later, central Copenhagen was the scene of yet another late-night stabbing, when an American exchange student sustained multiple stab wounds to the chest after an altercation with five immigrant boys on Kgs. Nytorv. Last weekend, a 29-year-old Norwegian was stabbed in the back by a gang of immigrant youths at Diskotek Barfly on Løvstræde, after bickering with the youths on the street outside.

"And these aren't the only cases - they're just the stories that make the headlines. Violent crimes are on the rise throughout Copenhagen, and even though the most serious assault cases are at a more or less steady level, the assaults themselves are becoming more violent. This is primarily because immigrant youth are much quicker to pull a knife, so the consequences are far more serious. The reaction pattern in banal confrontations is more violent than we've been accustomed to. You can't expect to talk yourself out of a situation any more. Horrific things can happen - and last weekend's incident is a classic example. I would advise people not to play the hero in street altercations - watch yourself," said Larsen.


http://www.cphpost.dk/get/81682.html

The Liberal Party's integration spokeswoman will sponsor a bill making it easier for welfare officials to forcibly remove immigrant children whose parents forbid them from integration into Danish society. Liberal Party integration spokeswoman Irene Simonsen has proposed removing children from immigrant families, if parents refuse to let them integrate into Danish society. Simonsen has proposed placing these children with foster families capable of instilling democratic values in them. "Forcibly removing children from their parents' homes is a drastic step, but we need to focus on the children's best interests. Their interests are not being served by raising them to be hostile to Danish society. If they're held back from integration and subjected to psychological pressures, it could force them on to a path of delinquency, crime and perhaps even eventual recruitment by extremist groups. The system must step in and remove these children, so they can be raised in foster care according to democratic norms," said Simonsen, who has not yet presented her proposal to the Liberal Party's parliamentary group.

The right-wing Danish People's Party has come out in support of Irene Simonsen's proposal. Deputy party leader Peter Skaarup says welfare officials have been too hesitant to take action against immigrant families. "It is neglectful to send one's child to a Koran school in Pakistan that uses strict indoctrination," said Skaarup.


Remember: You read this first at Jihad Watch.

Posted by: Ali Dashti [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 21, 2004 8:02 AM

Sorry about the first post.Start again.

One day the rapists won't go to jail because the JUDGES will be muslim.

Sorry about my first post.

Posted by: Voltaire [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 21, 2004 8:06 AM

Thanks Ali Dashti

I think that removing children from muslim families is a great first step, and one which these children will one day be grateful for.

Posted by: Voltaire [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 21, 2004 8:16 AM

ALI DASHTI
Shocking state of affairs and you deserve every credit for exposing the perpetrators. Removing Muslim children is a step in the right direction.
NO MORE MUSLIM IMMIGRANTS WOULD BE EVEN BETTER!

Posted by: Morgane [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 21, 2004 8:25 AM

Apologize? For what?! For exposing what everyone already knows?

The people who should be apologizing should be the European media who don't do their job properly.

A few months ago I actually saw in a Portuguese television news forum a communist female caller saying that "Jews only caused problems and that Hitler knew what he was doing"... Her words were even more offensive than my translation, but the issue is that any decent archorman would have shut her up and moved on...

Why is antisemitism tolerated while crimes committed by Muslims are hidden or go unreported? When will we start facing the problem instead of turning our backs to it?

Thank you Mr Spencer and thank you Ali Dashti - no apologies necessary.

Posted by: alex221166 [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 21, 2004 9:28 AM

"Apologize? For what?! For exposing what everyone already knows?"


No, just for the way the original translations and comments were mixed up by me, which may have looked a bit unprofessional. Otherwise, I agree. European media in general do NOT do their job, at the same time as Europeans buy tons of books by Michael Moore and complain about how Americans are "brainwashed by their media". It is an international scandal that Sweden could allow the situation to become this bad, and still keep up appearances and pretend to be a "moral example" for the world. Swedes travel around the planet lecturing about "gender equality" and the "liberation of women" at the same time as native Swedish girls are afraid to go out in their major cities, and teenage Muslim girls are forcibly married to much older men who want visas to Sweden and the EU. Norwegians are not much better. Denmark is a bit tougher, though. Danish media is in a different league from Swedish media.

Posted by: Ali Dashti [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 21, 2004 9:43 AM

Ali Dashti:

I have often wanted to thank you for your invaluable contributions to Jihad Watch and to Dhimmi Watch and for the wealth of information you bring to us, especially in the form of links to sites where our knowledge can be further broadened.

I will do so now. Thank you. Your efforts are sorely needed and greatly appreciated. You are "making a difference" in the fight against jihad; what better accolade could I bestow?

Posted by: CGW [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 21, 2004 11:10 AM

This behavior is akin to insurrection. The governments should send in troops to quell the problem. Oops. Part of the problem is the government.

Ali Dashti - I wan to add my voice to the others in thanks for the information you have provided at JW.

Posted by: epg [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 21, 2004 12:02 PM

Ali Dashti - Don't beat yourself up over this, no apology is necessary.

Posted by: Mike [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 21, 2004 3:08 PM

"Don't beat yourself up over this, no apology is necessary."


I don't. But it is always annoying with anything that can make the message less effective, that's all.

Thanks to CGW and epg for kind words. It is appreciated.

Posted by: Ali Dashti [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 21, 2004 3:25 PM

Ali,
You always post the links to back up your statements, no need to aplogise.

You have always been a great source for information or clarification as needed.

Thank You for all the work you put into this site.

Posted by: susan_b [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 21, 2004 3:47 PM

Ali Dashti,


There's nothing to apologize for. All your posts had links.

In fact, I thank you for all your input. Hope people that believe the notion about the 'peaceful' nature of islam and its followers will come across this site and see forthemselves how wrong they are.

jasmine

Posted by: jasmine [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 21, 2004 5:56 PM

Thanks for clearing that up, Ali.

Unfortunately PeeCee coverups are not unique to Scandinavia. We had own disgusting example here in Australia. The Sydney gang rapes by Muslims was frantically covered up by the media and then the justice system, who denied there was any racial motivation by the attackers. They were just ordinary, run of the mill rapes, said the talking heads.

What they called their victims were conveniently left out of the initial trial, and the sentences were laughably lenient. When the outraged and betrayed victims went onto a current affairs program to say what really went on, there was a massive public outcry. The justice system and media couldn't skulk around in the shadows anymore, couldn't lie to us anymore.

The police figured out there was something going on when the reports of these gang rapes were coming in, fast and furious. But they were gagged from saying much to the public. How many girls could have been warned and saved from this horrific treatment by these subhumans if the PeeCee bastards hadn't got their way?

Now we know. We need to tell our daughters to be wary of Muslim men, don't trust them because they do not respect you one iota. It sounds horrible but it's true. What are we supposed to do? Walk around in some airy-fairy la-la land of PeeCee manufactured bliss, ignoring dangers because it might not look good & might offend the minorities? Bah!

Posted by: feralee [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 21, 2004 8:02 PM

I like Irene Simonsen's proposal except for one thing: it'll probably first be applied to the children of Christian fundamentalist groups that oppose abortion, excommunicate homosexuals, and won't ordain women (but without throwing bombs or any other anti-social behavior).

Posted by: Kepha1 [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 21, 2004 9:32 PM

I cannot remember how I came upon this site last month, but I am so incredibly glad I did.
Part of the apologetic attitude in this country (that somehow we in the US are directly responsible for the spiraling acceleration of global terrorism) has a lot to do with the lack of information about the current state of affairs abroad.
Few Americans can read articles in a foreign language. Condensing a translation is no "small" accomplishment - especially when taking into account the innumerable variables in cultural/political agendas. This enormous, time consuming effort is well recognized by your readers.
Your website is a gem. By sharing details about international affairs (sadly overlooked in the US media)you provide a much needed service that puts balance into what we are spoon fed by our press.
I look forward to checking this site every day.

Thank you.

Posted by: justamomof4 [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 21, 2004 11:09 PM

I think you need to separate muslims from other immigrants. when it comes to the problem in Malmö it has a clear connection to islam. the construction om the islamic center was the start for the increase of the segragation: e g muslims schools was built that made the young people that lived there even more alinatet from the society.

while in north west stockholm, where your text about the busshouting happened:

"Only a couple of days ago, city buses in a suburb of Stockhom had to be cancelled and rerouted, as three windows were smashed by rock throwing. As this was not the first time this had happened, the bus company decided they quite simply could not drive in this area anymore"

we still don't know who was behind this, and the muslim control over these areas (the % of muslims in Tensta I think is lower then in Malmö) is weaker.

Posted by: markus [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 22, 2004 2:23 AM

I am a Swede and I have to tell you that most of us in this country knows how bad things really are.
The media try so hardto be politically correct so they can only write the truth when swedes are the perpetrators and a tendency to blaim the victim when the victim is a swede.
What the politicians is up to nobody knows, they are all the same so it does not matter how you vote, the results becomes a disaster any way.
If anyone complains about your translations it is because they are ignorant of the facts, belives the propaganda or is both blindfolded and deaf.

Posted by: boma [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 22, 2004 8:17 AM

Sweden is unique when it comes to media coverage of immigrant related problems. Nowhere else is the debate so censored and limited as it is in Sweden. In Denmark and Norway the readers can participate in and initiate debates on immigration, for instance. All Swedish major newspapers have closed down their web forums for open debate. There is no way to comment on a leader or opinion in for example Dagens Nyheter, the biggest and most widely cited newspaper in Sweden. The possibility was still there, albeit with requirement that you provide your full name, address etc., uptil December 2003.

The closure of DN debatt came after requests from the iranian citizen (but not Swedish) Ardalan Shekarabi, who is also president of the Social Democratic Youth Organisation - SSU, that people who wanted to contribute to the debate at DN web should be scrutinized regarding background and possible political aims with their articles before beeing accepted, and that people who may have anti-immigration opinions should not be allowed toparticipate in the debate. Dagens Nyheter gave in and closed down their web debate forum shortly after.

This shows what a different media climate Sweden has compared to Denmark and Norway.

The way that media and politicians in Sweden handle the immigration issue is nothing less than treason.

Posted by: Fronk [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 22, 2004 9:21 AM

From the Danish newspaper BT:

http://www.bt.dk/krimi/artikel:aid=307602/

En 60-årig mand blev i går eftermiddag overfaldet af seks-syv drenge, beskrevet som 12-15-årige indvandrere, i en stitunnel mellem Tjurgården og Gersagerparken i Hundige.

Manden var på vej hjem i sin el-kørestol, da en af drengene spærrede hans vej med en rød cykel.
En af drengene sparkede manden i ryggen, mens to andre drenge sparkede ham en gang på hver underarm, hvorefter en af de yngste drenge tissede manden i hovedet og ned ad siden, oplyser lederen af nærpolitiet i Hundige.
Den 60-årige blev reddet af en cyklende kvinde, der skældte drengene ud, og fik dem til at stoppe.


Brief summary: A 60-year-old man, on his way home in his electric wheelchair, was assaulted by 6-7 boys, described as 12-15 year-old immigrants. They blocked the road in front of the man with a bicycle. One of the kids kicked the man in his back, while two others kicked the man once in each arm. One of the youngest boys urinated on the man's head, according to local police. The man in the wheelchair was saved by a woman on a bicycle, that yelled at the boys and made them stop.

Just another day in Eurabia.

Posted by: Ali Dashti [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 22, 2004 9:35 AM

Why do the swedes hate themselves so much ? They're about to dhimmi swedish culture into the dustbin of history. I can't believe that these "see-no-evil" liberals are the descendents of the Vikings. But then again maybe all the brave Vikings moved to Britain or Greenland (maybe even the US before Columbus) leaving the PC pacifist gutless Vikings back in sweden. And so the swedes depart the stage of European history to become one of the first parts in the puzzle that will be islam's new caliphate. Bye, bye sweden , so sad you went with a whimper and not a bang.

Posted by: Son Of Albion [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 22, 2004 8:00 PM