Why doesn't the Administration assemble all such statements, and quote from them -- thereby smuggling in the truth but attributing that truth solely to Muslim writers. It is long past time to start discussing the Jihad -- for everyone to start discussing it. What public figure will go first, and cleverly weave the words of this Qatari Dean (of a school of Sharia), or of others who have been quoted at Jihadwatch or elsewhere, into a statement of something asymptotically approaching the truth? It is needed.

Posted by: Hugh at October 5, 2004 9:44 AM

No one with more than half a brain believes that Arabs were responsible for 9/11. It is a classic case of blaming the victim. The Arabs were framed by the establishment. The CIA/Mossad demolished the trade center to justify T.W.A.T. (The War Against Terror). The whole idea or a war on terror is a contradiction, for what is more terrorizing than war? The question has to be asked is who benefits? The Zionists were rubbing their hands with glee after the attack, this was their chance to make Israel's enemies into America's enemies and use the brainwashed American masses as proxy soldiers in the Zionist insurgency in Middle East Asia, this, combined with America's lust for oil led to the Iraq War, a marraige of convenience between Zionists and oil greed. There is no excuse for ignorance about 9/11, it was an inside job by the elite Zionist cabal, just like the Madrid bomb, the Bali bomb, Beslan, all Zionist black psyops and false flag operations.

The ignorance displayed by the articles and comments on this site is breathtaking, the war on terror and Iraq are wars fought by the masses for the benefit of elites, it is time for you American people to take your heads out of the sand, wake up and stop following Israel into the abyss, like hynotized lemmings sleepwalking into disaster and start actually thinking for yourself instead of letting the controlled media do your thinking for you.

Posted by: Karl at October 5, 2004 1:53 PM

Karl,

I guess the majority of people in the world have only half a brain, if we are to take your post as truth.

To use your words, the ignorance displayed by Karl's comments on this site is breathtaking.

As far as the controlled media masking everything, where have you been? The internet and those who make use of it are not controlled news outlets; check how quickly the CBS document forgeries were broken to the world. The same would happen in the case of a CIA/Mossad plot to perform 9/11. Just think of the sheer numbers it would take to plot said covert op, and the opportunity for whistleblowing and leaks alone would destroy that.

9/11 happened in part because the U.S. was complacent about terror striking us here, not because we wanted to be led down the garden path by Zionists and the CIA.

Posted by: Walker Colt at October 5, 2004 2:08 PM

Sheesh, I keep thinking that my fellow JWers/DWers are going to get better at spotting 'em.

"Karl" is a muslim poser.

Posted by: CGW at October 5, 2004 3:16 PM

"Karl"-
I have some nice oceanfront property in Arizona for you, too. Give me a call.

Posted by: Rottweiller at October 5, 2004 5:17 PM

Doggerel for Karl Because He Deserves It

"Karl" is a islamonazi
who hates the evil jews
(who always seem to do so well
after returning from an earthly hell
where they were sent by others
just like him and his muslim brothers).

Posted by: the poetess at October 5, 2004 5:28 PM

You lose the argument went you start talking about "the Jews", I was talking about Zionists, I never mentioned Jews, there are Jews and Jewish people but there is no such thing as "The Jews" or "The Jewish people", it's a myth, a myth which leads to Zionism, just because the Zionists believe themselves to be the descendants of the mythical "chosen people" it doesn't mean they are. The "Jewish People" are only a people in as much as they believe themselves to be a people, not in any real historical, cultural or biological sense. Anyone could make a bogus family tree and claim descent from biblical patriachs, the only way to be sure of descent is to do a DNA test and that would require the bodies of the mythological figures that "The Jews" claim descent from, until they can do that why should people believe them? The Zionists believe that "The Jews" alone are human beings and that they were chosen by god to enslave and rule over the rest of humanity, to whom they refer to as goyim and gentiles (subhuman cattle). I don't believe that there is a monolithic entity called "the Jews" that is seperate from the rest of humanity, but the Zionists and anti-semites do, for opposite reasons. Not all Jews are the same, they are human beings with individual personalitys. A person can identify as Jewish without believing in the mythical "chosen Jewish race", a person can be a human being first and a Jew second, for those Zionists that renounce humanity, why should we care about those who consider us to be no more than beasts of burden? Jews are not born Zionists, the persecution of innocent Jews is wrong as it will just drive more Jews into the hands of Zionism and as for Israel, if the situation of America and Israel was reversed, would Israel allow America to live as a parasite on Israel and Israeli taxpayers? Of course not and Israel knows it, as it would not be an equal relationship, it would be a host-parasite relationship, ultimately the problem lies with America and other countries that are too weak to resist the Zionist swindle, just as some people are susceptible to certain diseases, so some nations are susceptible to the Zionist world-plague. And more importantly Zionism is not a benign parasite, it is a toxic parasite that poisons and kills it's host.

Posted by: Karl at October 5, 2004 7:30 PM

"Karl"

semantics! zionists, jews
you choose.
your antics are transparent
in that hate is hate and it's apparent
that you have a hate hard on here,
you're filled with fear
and it's not that great.

Did Zionists beat you up as a kid?
Was your dad mad for the kukluxklan?
Was you mom raped by the mossad?

Posted by: the poetess at October 5, 2004 7:54 PM

So I say the Jews are no better than non-Jews and that makes me a hater? Please explain.

If Jews are allowed to criticize White Supremacists, then Whites should be able to criticize Jewish Supremecists, don't you agree?

Or is it one rule for Jews, one rule for everyone else?

Posted by: Karl at October 5, 2004 8:24 PM

Gotta love Karl,he just proved that the perception of Arabs and Muslims is that they don't have the brains or courage to carry out such an attack.Muhammed must be spinning in hell over that post.

Although Karl,why were Muslims so upset at the way the USA treated the remains of the hijackers,seems Islamic rules for dead Muslims wasn't followed and it irritated people.

NO MUHAMMED - KNOW PEACE

Posted by: ala-sux at October 5, 2004 9:13 PM

Karl is one of the more rational people that subscribe to conspiracy theories.

The statement, "No one with more than half a brain believes..." is just an argument from intimidation or ad hominem on anyone who disagrees with that statement. This is a fallacious form of reasoning, but probably works very well in the Arab world.

Another thing that Karl's comment shows is the prevalence of double-think in the Arab mind. The Arabs are both responsible for 9/11 and innocent of the attrocity at the same time.

The reason for their innocence is that the Jews forced them, they were fooled by the CIA, the devil made them do it, ad infinitum. So, even if you can prove that Arabs, especially Wahhabis, flew the planes, they are still as blameless as babies.

But the terrorists who flew the planes are lauded as good matyrs. They are exalted in some circles.

I can't possibly go into all the pathologies in the Arab culture that I've learned about during my short study of the subject. A good book to read is called, "Inside the Arab Mind" if you want to understand the "root causes" of backwardness and terrorism among the Arabs. I forget the book's author, but it was required reading of officers during the first gulf war.

Posted by: MetalMuncher at October 5, 2004 9:19 PM

karl,
Hate takes many forms,
fear is its father,
desire is its mother,
ignorance is its sister,
paranoia is its brother,
it's anger can be cold or hot.
Are you a real british skinhead
or just a regular ole troll mo-bot?

Posted by: the poetess at October 5, 2004 9:52 PM

You people believe that Muslims are trying to take over the world and yet you accuse me of being a conspiracy theorist?

Now that's double think.

I have read Orwells 1984, should have been called "America 2004".

Communist China is no longer the enemy. Communist China is now our friend in the War on Terror.

Islamic "terrorists" are our friend in the War against Russia. Islamic "terrorists" are our enemies and Russia is our friend.

Russia was always our friend.

China was always our friend.

War is Peace

Freedom is Slavery

Time for the 2-minutes hate.

Posted by: Karl at October 5, 2004 9:59 PM

Karl, congrats on discovering that political alliances shift. But I think your delusions about Zionists are a pathetic contrast to the honesty of Abd al-Hamid al-Ansari. I also met a Muslim Balochi who, after 9/11, mentioned that his father, after recovering from his shock at the attack, said, "Probably some shmucks from the Middle East". Many non-Wahabbi Muslims, both Sunni and Shi'ah--including Hijazis disgruntled at the rule of the Sa'ud family-- have also long held that nobody should have been surprised that most of the perps were Sa'udi nationals (and these were people who showed a clear ability to sympathize with non-Muslims).

These are among the reasons why I'm willing to give a lot of Muslims the benefit of the doubt, and hope that civilizational war can be staved off--although sometimes I fear it is hoping against hope.

Posted by: Kepha1 at October 6, 2004 1:27 AM

Also, Karl and other Muslims aren't the only ones sunk in conspiracy theorizing. In World War II, Eric Blair (George Orwell) criticized certain Leftist British intellectuals who held that American troops entered Europe to prevent a European revolution. There are also plenty of people who are certain that "big business" is financing the Klan and neo-Nazi groups in America (Oh, no! Ordinary working-class Americans can't be so mean, ornery, and clever on their own to organize nasty littel groups by themselves!). There are also people who are sure that America would never have anything wrong with it were it not for the perfidious "Jooooooz" in the professions, media, and government.

Isn't it interesting that those who subscribe to religions and ideologies that deny a human propensity to evil always have to find some group of people (Jews, Illuminati, Masons, Businessmen) who are somehow outside the human pale, and thus can be accused of fomenting all the trouble in the world?

Posted by: Kepha1 at October 6, 2004 1:34 AM