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From Expatica, with thanks to Anthony:
AMSTERDAM — MPs have strongly criticised Deputy Prime Minister Gerrit Zalm for his declaration of war against Islamic extremism last week.Green-left GroenLinks leader Femke Halsema said she was "extremely unhappy" about the statement, claiming that Zalm had suggested "everything was possible", newspaper De Telegraaf reported.
Admitting that the Cabinet needed to do everything what it could to combat Muslim extremism, she also said it needed to show self-restraint. "We fall too easy into an 'us and them' antithesis with the word war," she said.
Heavens to betsy, that would be horrid. After all, our jihadist sisters and brothers certainly didn't manifest any "us-and-them" thinking when van Gogh was murdered, now did they?
In declaring war on Islamic extremism last Friday and the subsequent steps it entailed, Zalm said the cabinet would expand the Dutch intelligence service AIVD, requiring an increase in funding.It will also investigate the possibility of revoking the Dutch passports of violent offenders who hold dual nationality status. The government will also remain in contact with Muslim organisations in a joint bid to crackdown on extremists.
Cabinet ministers also discussed last week the controversial El Tawheed mosque in Amsterdam, where the suspected killer of Theo van Gogh, 26-year-old Dutch-Moroccan Mohammed B., regularly attended.
But the announced measures — taken in response to the brutal murder of Van Gogh in Amsterdam on 2 November — were largely ignored as MPs raced each other to condemn the cabinet's war talk.
Posted by Robert at November 9, 2004 7:05 AM
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Urgent Message from the Dutch Dhimmi PArty
"If an islamist shoots you a dozen times, slits your throat and sticks two large knives into you, please...PLEASE don't panic...and don't mention the War!!!
And don't forget to sandblast that message "Thou shalt not kill" you made on the wall before you die. Please Dhimmi's show some consideration will you."
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at November 9, 2004 8:04 AM
obl r us
Don't mention the war.
Perfect thing to say when dhimmis keep trying to shut up talk about war between Islam and the civilised world.
Much indebted to you.
Posted by: Voltaire at November 9, 2004 8:18 AM
reminds me of fawlty towers
Posted by: ted at November 9, 2004 9:53 AM
Very good that the Greens/Lefties have adopted this line... I'm sure it will do wonders for their election prospects. With any luck they will get close to 0% of the non-Muslim vote (still the majority, even if increasingly slim).
May they keep on expressing their brilliant views!!
Posted by: AntiJihadist at November 9, 2004 9:56 AM
Check this link: http://www.noord.kw.nl/video/wim/wim.ram
Brief explanation :
In Holland,you can find ,in every city,public adress spaces,where the citizen can write or draw whatever he wishes.
On one of those panels,a mean batavian (he is the one interviewed at the end of the clip),unrightfully shocked by the rightful murder of Theo Van Gogh,had painted a dove ascending to heaven,with the disgusting commandment “ Thou shall not kill “ (Gy zult niet doden).
The legitimate anger of the neighbouring mosque’s imam at the sight of such a provokingly islamophobic manifestation has luckily forced the
municipality to undertake the necessary cleaning action.
And to hold for four hours in police custody the cameraman of the local TV channel who has immortalized this call to hate and its erasing.
Batavian justice is unfortunately not flawless,and was unable to confiscate the video.
Allah o akbar en Geiten Neukers Land.
Posted by: RomanZ at November 9, 2004 10:06 AM
The Boston Globe weighs in on the situation in Holland:
This syndrome -- fear of a few violent extremists being transferred to the 1 million Muslims in Holland who are overwhelmingly peaceful -- has a sorrowful history. It marks the recurrence of a fascistic will to play upon the insecurities of a people reputed to be among the most liberal and tolerant in Europe.
As in the past, racists and nationalists are appealing to the most primitive reflex of their own group: fear of the mysterious other. This pattern of anti-immigrant rabble-rousers manipulating anxieties about North African or Turkish communities is being replicated in nearly all the countries of Western Europe. It threatens to reawaken the dormant beast of European authoritarianism
Ah yes, it's those "few violent extremists" hijacking a great religion again while "racists" and "rabble-rousers" appeal to our "fear of the mysterious other". If the Globe editorial staff actually knew anything about Islamic doctrine, if they actually did any research before regurgitating the same tired platitudes, they might come to understand that the backlash in Holland has nothing to do with racism and that the more Europeans learn about Islam, the less mysterious and the more overtly dangerous it manifestly becomes.
Posted by: HenryS at November 9, 2004 10:36 AM
Looks like the clasic Stockholm syndrome
where the Government has spent so much time listening to the criminals that they actually believe Van Gogh deserved it and all Muslim are the victims of Islamophobia and need to be protected from any further racist attacks after a civilian is murdered by a Muslim.
If I'm ever on a plane that's about to slam into a office tower by a hijacker screaming "Allah 'a Akbar" I'll remember to reflect on my life to understand what it may have been I did to make that person want to murder a plane load of strangers.
All this time I thought people were responsible
for their actions,now I see Muslims are predisposed to violence and we better placate their demands or they'll have no choice but to
express their rage by slaughtering god's children
for Allah to bring peace to mankind.
at November 9, 2004 11:20 AM
The Globe has outdone itself -- see HenryS's important posting of their editorial today. Who wrote this idiotic thing? Martin Baron? Or was the "old Middle East hand," who knows nothing about Islam, but a lot about how awful the Israelis are, H. D. S. Greenway, called in to provide his "expert" judgment?
If one had the sense that any of these people felt the slightest obligation to actually study what is in the khutbas (they can find plenty of them online at www.Memri.org), or tried to find out just what is in the Qur'an -- they can get it online at www.usc.edu, with at least four different translations that can be compared side-by-side, and they can find relevant and reliable commentators), if one thought that they had taken the trouble to look at a few hundred hadith or even to begin to understand why the hadith are so important, if they had, further, consulted the sira (and the most detailed and scrupulous biography of Muhammad in English, that of Sir William Muir, can now be obtained -- an abridged version, but still enormous -- from Amazon), if one thought, in other words, that before commenting on what Muslims think of Infidels, of how they regard the Bilad al-kufr, of how likely it is that they will accept Infidel ways, Infidel moeurs, that at least one had did a good deal of investigation, had studied, had learned about dhimmitude, had even read a book or two by Bat Ye'or, or one or two by Ibn Warraq, had consulted the websites that are not those of the apologists -- oh, if only one thought that this had happened, and that even so, one still spouted this nonsense, then at least the situation would not be so maddening.
It is the incredible arrogance of whoever wrote this editorial in The Globe -- an assumption that this person "knows" all about Islam -- oh, who helped him? Was it someone in the Middle Eastern Department at Harvard? A dinner-party conversation with Roy Mottahedeh? Diane Eck of the Pluralism Project? Seemingly tenured (but only his Department knows for sure) William Graham, Dean of the Divinity School and apologist a ses heures?
Bring back Uncle Dudley. Bring back people who know how to think, and how to express themselves.
The Globe, as they used to say about Pravda in the bad old Soviet days, goditsya na podtirku.("is fit for wiping"). One knows what those scatological Muscovites meant -- such examples of idiocy and ignorance help make the daily (and Sunday) Globe quite an absorbing -- no, I mean absorbent -- read.
Posted by: Hugh at November 9, 2004 12:06 PM
To Roman Z. -
"In Holland,you can find ,in every city,public address spaces,where the citizen can write or draw whatever he wishes."
Perhaps it is worth reflecting on historical legend for guidance . . .
The legend says that when the Germans ordered Jews in occupied Denmark to identify themselves by wearing armbands with yellow stars, King Christian X of Denmark and non-Jewish Danes thwarted the order by donning the armbands themselves"
IMHO, ALL the 'public address spaces' should reflect variations on "Thou Shalt not Kill" artwork - to get the point across in a unified fashion.
at November 9, 2004 12:45 PM
"We fall too easy into an 'us and them' antithesis with the word war," she said.
People are getting murdered in broad daylight in the middle of Amsterdam for exercising their freedom of speech and all the Greens can think to do is argue over SEMANTICS?
Posted by: Mike at November 9, 2004 1:30 PM
regarding mike's post above: is not this the same phenomenon we see happening at the u.n. with regards to the situation in sudan? could someone please get a dictionary and look up "genocide"? could we please plug those numbers through an equation one more time? can we possibly continue to equivocate so that more can die and perhaps one of these days we will all come to consensus that what is happening in sudan is genocide? can we please not mention the war? it's just so politically incorrect to use such harsh language as "war" and "genocide" when "peace" and "common good" sound so much -- well, lovelier. can someone please pass the drugs?
Posted by: ted at November 9, 2004 4:21 PM
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